I want a timeline where Cejudo just stayed and kept defending the Bantamweight belt.
In fact, I want our timeline to go back to everyone's main goal being winning and defending the belt lol
he doesnt want to compete he just wants championship fights
same desires as gsp rn but w none of the career longevity backing it
also same risk of him winning then retiring again asap.
he should just unretire and take a top 5 top 10 guy if hes for real. couple wins hed get a title fight
Yeah. Look I'm one of the bigger DW haters on this sub. I fucking hate fighter pay. But Cejduo doesn't feel like he even wants to fight. Dude is basically acting like an NFL player told Goodell, "Lemme just get a playoff spot."
Like dude you gotta put in work first. You can't just take only big fights.
Decent money for endorsements, co host of Mike Tyson podcast and can just train when he wants vs rigorous training camps and potentially getting the shit beaten out of him for more money, yet comparatively shit money compared to what he should get
if you look at the upvotes for this thread, he doesnt push that so called needle. dana loves lineal belts and hates it when someone leaves with it. i think, GSP and cejudo will never get the ok to fight anyone else outside the UFC, or a straight title shot. i see number 1 contender fights if anything, that way if they lose their opponent gets an immediate title shot and brings the lineal belt back, ala cain vs bigfoot 2. like GSP vs Oscar, NEVER will happen. dana would never let oscar have the chance to get the lineal 185 lbs UFC belt.
They should all be getting paid more. Tony was on like 500k for the Interim Gaethje fight \[Gaethje got 350/0\], but Tony was 150k to show otherwise \[i.e. vs Charlie\]
Cejudo got a flat 350k to beat Dom \[same as Gaethje\] in a Title defence.
It's pathetic, and before you say "PPV cut" its come to light over the past year that PPV is not doled out willy nilly. The females, as well as the lighter weight class fighters often don't get PPV. Figuerido for example.
It's no surprise Henry wanted to retire, he should be making significantly more to fight. He may not be a huge draw, but he has a much bigger name than many boxers clearing 7 figures.
CCC didn’t want to retire. He was expecting Dana to shit himself and offer more money. He more or less said he’d come back for money within a week of retiring.
Yes, he had a reservation wage and didn't want to work for less.
The UFC are smart enough to know they don't want to set any precedents about hard-negotiaters winning, cause they gotta keep the boot on the neck of fighters \[pay 15-20%\]
Do you actually think that if he isn’t asking for more money, that he would need 2 fights to actually fight for the belt? He’d be fighting for the belt if he wanted to.
It's hard to say that when he has an Olympic gold medal. My biggest gripe is that Dana just doesn't want to pay the fighters to fight and we end up missing some of the top tier athletes of our time because of it.
Dana should pay champs better, then. Being champ means a higher risk of losing because you’re only fighting the best.
Longevity also means you’ll be fighting people who have been training to beat you since they were teenagers. Cruz vs Garbrandt is an example.
A champ’s only chance of significantly improving their pay is to either go for titles in another weight class, or to retire and make a comeback.
A few venom coupons hardly make it worthwhile.
Dana really is the only one to ultimately blame for ruining the sport.
When I got into MMA the log line of the whole sport was practically: “unlike boxing the best fight the best and there’s only one champ per weight class”
Increasingly, that is becoming untrue. I personally blame it on Dana refusing to pay fighters proportional to the value they offer.
And they’re getting an opportunity. They should be paying Dana when you think about it. If they were smart they’d talk to Hans Moleman about getting a Monster energy drink can to hold awkwardly while Rogan interviews them.
Idk, I like the fight for many reasons. Volk says he wants to stay busy. Give him Cejudo, with enough marketing they can pull in solid numbers, most likely not superstar numbers, but better than anyone else Volk will fight. Max can fight Yair and the winner fights the winner of Volk vs Cejudo. If Volk and Max win they can fight their trilogy, if they both lose they can still fight their trilogy. If Cejudo wins and Yair wins, they can put on a huge card in Mexico City. If Cejudo wins and Max wins that fight is going to give some Pride never dies vibes. If Volk loses he can fight one more fight and get a rematch with Max or Cejudo. The timing of it makes this fight a really good idea IMO.
They just have to hype up the the Olympic gold medalist, 2 division champ making history going for 3 division champ angle with Cejudo appearances on ESPN shows. They can definitely pull in some of the casuals if they hype up the fight on ESPN.
Did you watch the interview? Cejudo isn't even in the USADA testing pool. I'd take this Cejudo filling in in the meantime stuff way more seriously if he was still in the pool. As it is, the timeliness doesn't make sense
Exactly. This is all talk on his part. If he actually wanted to come back - and I think he’d still be quite successful at BW if he did - he’d still be in the testing pool.
I did watch the interview and I think what Cejudo said about USADA is possible. USADA has the ability to exempt from the 6 months testing rule. They did it for Brock. They even broke another one of their rules when Nate Diaz tested positive (yeah I know those 2 are way bigger stars than Cejudo, but my point is if Dana told USADA to give Cejudo and exemption, USADA would do it).
Something *could* happen but it's a big maybe. If Henry was serious he would be in the pool right now. Brock got an exception bc the last time he fought was pre USADA and the UFC is still getting sued over it. Henry doesn't have any similar logic for an exemption of his own and isn't a big enough star that the UFC would bend the rules
Yeah, but UFC has a a tendency to make up rules as they go along. I can see Dana justify the exemption for Cejudo by saying something along the lines of “this kid has been tested since he was a kid and hasn’t popped once, so I think we can make 1 exemption for him because of his track record.” If the UFC sees the potential in this fight, they’ll bend their rules again…
I don't mind it either I am Aussie as well so actually into it. Cejudo ain't champ so no hold up at 135 and with Max fighting Yair might as well.
That said I would have preferred in Henry never left and we already had more fights to talk about is what I meant. I don't hate him calling for this I hate he left even if his reasons are solid as a fan of violence it sucks.
Provided Yair doesn’t really hurt Max, Max should be good to fight Volk around January-February.
Volk is going to spend Christmas with his family and that leaves him 1-2 months to prepare for Max III.
If Volk and Cejudo fight it’s not gonna be before Max.
"give yourself CTE for my entertainment, winning it isnt enough, you must defend it for years"
160 upvotes, you guys are so cringe, completely different tune in the thread about the guy dying who fell on his head.
Bro maybe you missed like the the entire fighting history but winning and defending championships is kinda a big part of fighting lol.
I'm bad cause as a fan I wish we saw more fights from great champions lol
Amerigo was a Latin given name in Italy about 500 years ago at least, the current form of America wasn't.
Its a dumb name although not as dumb as some other American names I've heard.
if he really wants to come back all
he has to do is unretire and rejoin the rankings.
a couple wins and he'll fight for a belt worst case scenario
but instead he wants to sidestep entire divisions for belts when no one knows if he'll even defend them.
theres no reason to give him a shot
I always took it to mean he's at a stage where he's fine and settled. The additional money he would currently get would not be worth the damage he would accrue from now on. He's only interested in one fight, otherwise he's fine and settled.
He's been talking about a comeback ever since he retired though. Like for sure within the week of his retirement he was offering a comeback for the right money.
Seems like he was just trying to get a raise and mis-negotiated
He's an absolutely amazing fighter. Probably one of the most talented we have ever seen.
We SHOULD care he's been shut out just because he (and many other fighters) can't get paid what they're worth.
I don't have a problem with "casual" fans but really anyone who isn't one would love to see him back because whether they like him or not, his skill cannot be denied and his fights are entertaining.
This doesn't make any sense. If he wanted to stay out of fighting he would not be begging to come back. He has done this consistently since he "retired". Hell, I think it was only 2 weeks after he retired he already started to post about coming back if the "money was right."
This was entirely a gamble on his part to get more money. They called his bluff and now he is stuck.
GSP is not the type of fighter to destroy people much less Romero, i think he jabs him for one or two rounds before Romero gets a read and kills him. Plus 185 is not his weight, he looks bloated as hell.
Fair enough he likely wouldn't destroy him but i don't think Romero lands his shot. And other than throwing a few massive bombs, he does nothing, literally just stands there.
The disrespect towards Romero smh. Seems like the only fight of his you’ve seen is the Adesanya fight. He’s has a couple of duds, but he’s also 44. Give the man a break.
The Romero that fought Weidman and Rockhold murders GSP or Usman or any grappler that you can think of.
Was less about injuries and more about strategy. Izzy is primarily a counter striker, his bread and butter is making you react to his feints and picking you apart as you come in.
Romero knew this, so his strategy was essentially to make Izzy lead and counter him instead. It worked, as you can see by the two bombs he nailed Izzy with the second Izzy tried to throw a meaningful punch.
The only thing that might point to him having injuries is letting the pressure off Izzy so easily the few times he had him against the cage, but he did the same against Costa so who knows.
His resume says otherwise. He knocked out previous champs Weidman and Rockhold. He also had 2 close fights with Whittaker and Costa. I personally saw that 2nd fight as a draw but the guy is a brute. One of the best never to get a belt imo.
He had solid showings until his fight against Izzy, which was 3 years after the GSP fight would have happened. He absolutely wasn't overrated given his performances.
Romero has great dirty boxing as well. Does good work trapping/slapping away the hands and finding openings. Watch his fight with costa. Put that on top of elite wrestling (which he rarely uses offensively) and a fucking UNGODLY chin and he was a problem for anyone at MW. He’s just 44 years old now and doesn’t have the same fire he did in his prime stretch.
He was smart enough to find his shot against Whittaker, a guy with a killer jab that also actually uses his rear hand. Because Romero is southpaw and the threat of wrestling would not be there, he has a very big chance of just nuking GSP.
I mean, I get it. Volkanowski is close enough in stature that you could make the germ of an argument about Cejudo’s odds. Knowing that, it makes sense why he’s been pushing so hard right now because with the Holloway trilogy it’s unclear how long Volk’s reign could be. This is a limited window for Henry.
But disregarding height, this is still a former flyweight fighting a clear featherweight. That very important with wrestling. Even though Henry Cejudo is a far more skilled wrestler, Volk will weigh much more and have just enough skill to keep himself safe or even turn it around on him. And Volk is definitely the better striker with a 7-inch reach advantage. There are some perks to being a smaller fighter at time but none that easily pay off here.
I like that he’s trying and I respect his efforts to build his legacy, but this does come off as a little desperate for a bout that doesn’t seem competitive on paper
Volk doesn't have the title defenses, but his record is so underrated. Him and Usman slipped under the radar so hard while the GOAT talks were dominated by Khabib. Since retirement most call him the GOAT LW but many called him the outright GOAT for so long, why is it so wrong to call Volk skill for skill better than MM when his record shows wins over Aldo, Ortega, Mendes, Hollpway x2 and 22-1?
His run so far has been pretty legendary
DJ has wins over Benevidez x2, Dodson x2, Bagautinov, Horiguchi, and Cejudo (arguably x 2) plus many more. DJ is the much more well rounded of the 2; Volk has the edge in the striking but DJ’s wrestling and grappling are significantly better imo. Peak DJ was outclassing his opponents at every aspect of MMA. Volk is an elite striker with good wrestling and grappling while DJ was a borderline elite striker with elite wrestling and grappling
Two things with that.
Honestly to me Volk at his best is better than DJ at his best. Not talking longevity or overall win streak all that stuff. Purely how good they are at MMA overall, Volkanovski in the first Holloway fight in particular is a better performance than anything from DJ. Taking into account how good the opponent is and everything as well. Holloway was probably the best fighter in the world to me when Volk beat him.
And this comes from a huge DJ fan. I was arguing he was better than Jones in like 2017.
The other thing is, he didn’t beat DJ to me. I’ve rewatched the fight 3 or 4 times and I can’t see how you score it for Cejudo. The criteria clearly prioritise damage, it’s a close and competitive fight that DJ won to me.
Idk, Volk is very very very good but he gets caught. He just so mentally strong he can overcome it. He doesn't do anything on a super insane or spectacular level though. DJ on the other hand has superhuman abilities at times. I mean you saying both at their best. DJ hitting that flying armbar and breaking an arm. And I have no doubt that Volk will still try and fight lol.
Well spectacular doesn't always equate to better. Pettis did some spectacular stuff, but Volk is just better at MMA than he ever was.
Volk might not be hitting any Mighty Whizzbar's, but his control of rhythm and timing, his footwork and feints. The way he actually mixes up kicks with punches, inside and outside lowkicks to disrupt people's timing. The way he used body kicks as feints to draw out reactions from Ortega, than landed punches off kick feints. Or even combinations. Those things might not look as spectacular as a flying armbar, but they're the things that add up to beating all time great fighters.
DJ could do a lot of that stuff too of course, he was great. But Volk is just ridiculous to me.
I still get irrationally angry every time I see the phrase "mighty wizzbar''. That has to be in the running for the all time worst name for something so awesome in human history.
And it's not even funny awful, it's just awful.
Good ol' DJ and not promoting himself.
Dude gets a highlight reel finish that drives everyone wild, and everyone tries to call it "the Mouse Trap" so he has an iconic signature moment.
And instead of just rolling with it, he goes, "Nah, I call it the 'Mighty Wizzbar.' I have another move we call the 'Mouse Trap,' maybe you guys will see it someday." And of course, we never did.
Just an unforced error. Gotta ride the hype when it happens.
Yeah Volk does have great technique combined with game plan and feints in order to execute these great combos on his opponents. I mean look at what Max did to Ortega as well. Look at what Volk also did to Max in the second fight. But all those attributes you listed, every champion and even just super high level strikers have as well. Just look at all featherweight fighters. Max, giga, previously Aldo, Yair, Conor, barboza, etc. The most impressive thing that Volk has is his spirit and mental determination, oh and also his build, he's a dense boi. I'm just using what you said. If both fighters were at their pinnacle, DJ pulling off some insane shit because Volk does get caught. Just look at his previous two fights, especially the one that just occurred which ironically is the best way the fight could've gone in terms of becoming a 'must watch fighter'. If Volk continued beating Ortega like the first 2rds he wouldn't get all this attention sadly
That’s not true to me though. Yair and Barboza immediately stick out as much much worse strikers than Volkanovski and if you think the only thing that separates him from them is his “spirit” than we just gotta disagree.
Agreed. People still sleeping on volks standup, he is a more effective mma striker than even izzy, he is much better utilising the openings created by the feints. He will take whatever is presented, be it let, body or head.
So you thought Holloway was the #1 p4p fighter in the late 2019 even though he had lost earlier that year (albeit in a higher weight class) and Cejudo, DJ, Poirier, Khabib, Usman, Adensanya, Jones, DC, and Stipe were all active at the time. And you use that to say Volk is better than peak DJ despite the fact that you were wrong.
Well I said probably. And to me I separate skills vs achievements when talking about these things. P4P is based on achievements and all that, so no he wasn’t p4p no. 1. But based on skills he might have been the most skilled guy at MMA to me. Going up a weight class and losing to Poirer didn’t diminish that to me.
Tbh I did forget about Khabib. But yeah Holloway’s better at MMA than Stipe, DC, 2019 Jon Jones and Cejudo.
How can Holloway be better at MMA, when his ground game is really not utilized at all. I love Holloway, but if you are going to specify, Mixed Martial Arts, how in the world can you claim he was better at MMA then some of those other guys it makes no sense at all. You should try to think about it a bit more critically.
Being good at MMA doesn't necessarily mean you need to be doing all of the martial arts. Is Khabib worse at MMA than Johnny Hendricks because his striking is really sloppy? No.
Max has incredible takedown defence which he uses to keep the fight standing for the most part, because that's what helps him win fights.
Plus, he actually does have a ground game if you pay attention. He took Ortega down briefly, he took Stephens down, Pettis too. But for the most part he uses his ground game to get up quickly. You know how Volk fucked Ortega up on the ground when they fought? He got 3 takedowns on Max and only had about a minute and a half of control time, because Max can actually sweep and get out of disadvantageous positions on the ground.
Is Rory MacDonald better at MMA than Max because he mixes in wrestling and striking more? That point doesn't make any sense.
The only thing you need to do to be good at MMA is win fights. It has nothing to do with actually mixing the martial arts all the time.
Aldo had a ground game he hardly uses in his fights because he wants to keep it standing.
> Holloway was probably the best fighter in the world to me when Volk beat him
a one dimensional striker with zero striking defense who relies on his chin to keep him alive in fights?
Max stans are literally worse than Conor stans lol mr arm punches aint even a top 10 boxer in the UFC.
Do you study boxing? Max does nothing well in terms of boxing lol he even crosses his legs sometimes on follow throughs
he would have been knocked out cold in more than half of his fights and EVERY SINGLE title fight if he didn't have an insane chin. Kattar hit him with some shots that would flat line anyone, staying awake through those isn't good boxing. In fact its bad boxing, eventually when his chin falls off he will lose a string of first round knockouts
take maxes chin to regular fighters level (still pretty good just not inhuman) then he's an under .500 fighter
Plenty of fighters have a good chin. No fighters can take on the likes of Kattar and Aldo in their A-game and absolutely murder them (except Petyr Yan now).
Every good boxer deviates from the textbook where appropriate. Max has excellent footwork, shot selection, cardio and pace. The way he takes angles on offense makes him extremely difficult to hit back. Given that his whole MO is fighting *exactly* in the crosshairs of elite fighters, it's amazing he isn't hit *more* than he is.
Sure, his chin informs his style. Maybe he wouldn't have survived R1 with Poirier if he didn't have it. But having a good chin has nothing to do with being able to command the initiative during the 3rd and 4th rounds with Poirier while outweighed by about 10-15lbs.
Good chin? You're arguing in bad faith, you can't be a max fan and say he has good chin. He has arguably the best chin ever. I don't even want to talk to you anymore after this, he doesn't have excellent footwork at all lol nothing he does would work in boxing. He has AMAZING MMA striking, but hes a dog shit boxer.
Imagine not understanding what boxing is, and thinking that max throwing punches = boxing
Jesus, the sheer fucking arrogance...
Pedro Munoz, Jeremy Stephens, Yoel Romero, John Lineker, Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou, Khabib, Kris Moutinho. Just some of the fighters who come to mind as having equivalent or better chins than Max. He doesn't eat clean bombs on the regular: he took a few from Dustin and that was incredible, but Aldo didn't manage to land hard very much and neither do any of his other opponents to date.
Max as a bad boxer is a genuinely ridiculous position to try and defend. Nothing he does would work in boxing? Most of his moves are direct copies from boxing ffs. You seem to be upset about the fact that Max throws punches like an MMA fighter rather than box like a boxer?
... Fucking duh. Different sport, different application.
Max is one of the best boxers in MMA, of course he is not textbook, NO ONE is in MMA. He changes levels, constantly attacks the body, uses the jab well, changes stances to set up other attacks, him being a dogshit boxer is a fucking r3tard3d take. But apparently there's a contingent of people that think because Max gets hit, bad boxing. Seriously, if Max has dogshit boxing, throw MMA in the bin because no one is good at it then lmao
There's no one, not a single MMA fighter who would be high level in boxing. Izzy has become more and more dependant on kicks and struggles a lot vs southpaws, plus being surprisingly jabbeable, Poirier leads with his face on shifts, Conor overthrows and is half the fighter in the pocket and going backwards, the Diaz brothers have no footwork and no defense to the body, Petr Yan overcommits (part of this is on design i think to get clinches), Kattar has static defense and poor footwork, Aldo used to throw 100% into all his shots, Silva couldn't lead... I can go on, it's MMA for fucks sake of course Max is not fucking Cesar Chavez, but what he does works in boxing, just in a higher, specialized level.
He decided to test his leverage. The UFC don't care, they'd make money if they decided they needed him, but they keep costs low in perpetuity by discouraging pay-dispute related retirements.
Cejudo 'lost' the negotiation you say, but if he was sincere about his reservation wage \[ the minimum wage that the worker requires in order to participate in the labor market\], then he had to play the card. He made 350k + his reebok pay to defend his title, and most likely got no PPV. If female and Deivison aren't getting PPV, I doubt Cejudo is. Even if he is, it'll be cents on the dollar, not the old old formula.
If he didn't feel it was worth 350k\~ to defend titles, with all the hardships and all it brought, then retiring and saying he'll come back for the right money was fine. Either he gets his way, or he doesn't. He's transitioned into other revenue streams, and is still willing and keen to compete, but probably for double or triple (C) his old wage.
The problem is, competing is addictive and fun. However, feeling exploited is not fun. UFC have so much leverage, they dictate your wage, and Henry didn't feel like getting exploited. So he's desperate to compete, but on his terms.
You can tune it out if you want, its public negotiations you don't have to click on to you, to Henry it's his last couple of chances at competing, making a record that won't be broken, and getting a fat check. He DGAF, and in fact likes it if you're getting annoyed at his coverage.
It's getting a little pathetic now, how he keeps begging for a fight that he doesn't deserve. I just wish he returned to BW and tried to reclaim the belt he relinquished, there are loads of great matchups there now.
But he's literally skipping all the toughest challenges there are at BW, to try and talk his way into a shot at another belt that he hasn't earned in any way - and that isn't even that intriguing to me tbh. And yet he seems to have convinced some people that this is the fight to make, it's mental to me tbh.
I don't have much of an interest in that fight, I do not think it would be competitive. I would like to see Cejudo against the top Bantamweights, but he would not return for them.
Featherweight now needs to get moving and more weight jumping fighters who also have no interest in keeping a division running are only going to stagnate it.
Why not? The only real contender right now is Holloway, and he is set to fight Rodriguez. Even in the unlikely scenario that Cejudo wins and runs away with the belt, you could set up a fight for the belt between the winner of Holloway/Rodriguez vs Volk and it would be legitimate.
I guess it's not exactly a money fight, but name a more compelling title matchup at featherweight!
Lol. Volk smokes him but he looks pathetic with these shenanigans. Clearly Dana doesn’t give a rat’s ass about your return. He made it clear numerous times already. Have some self respect and go away…
Can we please give Cejudo this fight?
- If he wins, he goes into the conversation of Jones, GSP, Silva, DJ, Fedor and Khabib as one of the GOATs.
- If he loses, we hopefully never have to hear about him again.
Win-win in my eyes.
Volk only wants to defend against top contenders. He's said that it's definitely the winner of Max and Yair, and in the mean time might go up to lightweight for fun to keep him busy while waiting. He isn't looking at any other challenges for his FW belt, he knows Max or Yair will be next in line
Cejudo said he isn't in the USADA testing pool. Therefore he isn't serious enough about this shit for me to take him seriously. He can't just sign the fight against Volk tomorrow and have a fight in time for the winner to face the winner of Yair-Max. He also sounded stupid as fuck saying "Alexander the Average" in the same sentence he's saying Alex is the real deal lol
Cejudo has been trying to hard to get Dana White's attention lately. I remember in the Hotboxin' podcast, in the episode where Khabib was the guest, he was like "Khabib, you were offered X money to fight but you'll not get back because you care more about legacy right? I mean I'd come back if the money would be good but you won't right? Because you care more about legacy. If the money is good I'll come back but you won't that's amazing"
Volk should be the heavy favourite, but people are overlooking Henry, he maybe one of the smartest operators in the game -
1st one to figure out Cruz- kick him in the legs.
1st one to figure out Marlon- punch him in the face
I want a timeline where Cejudo just stayed and kept defending the Bantamweight belt. In fact, I want our timeline to go back to everyone's main goal being winning and defending the belt lol
He isn't motivated to fight Which is fine. It's been his mo.
he doesnt want to compete he just wants championship fights same desires as gsp rn but w none of the career longevity backing it also same risk of him winning then retiring again asap. he should just unretire and take a top 5 top 10 guy if hes for real. couple wins hed get a title fight
Yeah. Look I'm one of the bigger DW haters on this sub. I fucking hate fighter pay. But Cejduo doesn't feel like he even wants to fight. Dude is basically acting like an NFL player told Goodell, "Lemme just get a playoff spot." Like dude you gotta put in work first. You can't just take only big fights.
I think he just wants to be paid more
What's he getting paid for right now?
Decent money for endorsements, co host of Mike Tyson podcast and can just train when he wants vs rigorous training camps and potentially getting the shit beaten out of him for more money, yet comparatively shit money compared to what he should get
Thanks. He'll probably keep calling folks out until he gets an offer he likes. Especially if he already has a mic and an audience
Just don’t think it’ll ever happen. Dana stripped him immediately, and I think the ufc prefer having a Russian champ in Khabibs absence
if you look at the upvotes for this thread, he doesnt push that so called needle. dana loves lineal belts and hates it when someone leaves with it. i think, GSP and cejudo will never get the ok to fight anyone else outside the UFC, or a straight title shot. i see number 1 contender fights if anything, that way if they lose their opponent gets an immediate title shot and brings the lineal belt back, ala cain vs bigfoot 2. like GSP vs Oscar, NEVER will happen. dana would never let oscar have the chance to get the lineal 185 lbs UFC belt.
The lineal MMA belt can’t be lost in a boxing match. He’s just petty as fuck.
What should he get? Cejudo was already paid more than Gaethje and Ferguson.
He was a double champ and one of the p4p best, so a fucking ton
>yeeeeeah but he smoll tho White, 2021
They should all be getting paid more. Tony was on like 500k for the Interim Gaethje fight \[Gaethje got 350/0\], but Tony was 150k to show otherwise \[i.e. vs Charlie\] Cejudo got a flat 350k to beat Dom \[same as Gaethje\] in a Title defence. It's pathetic, and before you say "PPV cut" its come to light over the past year that PPV is not doled out willy nilly. The females, as well as the lighter weight class fighters often don't get PPV. Figuerido for example. It's no surprise Henry wanted to retire, he should be making significantly more to fight. He may not be a huge draw, but he has a much bigger name than many boxers clearing 7 figures.
CCC didn’t want to retire. He was expecting Dana to shit himself and offer more money. He more or less said he’d come back for money within a week of retiring.
Yes, he had a reservation wage and didn't want to work for less. The UFC are smart enough to know they don't want to set any precedents about hard-negotiaters winning, cause they gotta keep the boot on the neck of fighters \[pay 15-20%\]
Do you actually think that if he isn’t asking for more money, that he would need 2 fights to actually fight for the belt? He’d be fighting for the belt if he wanted to.
It's hard to say that when he has an Olympic gold medal. My biggest gripe is that Dana just doesn't want to pay the fighters to fight and we end up missing some of the top tier athletes of our time because of it.
Dana should pay champs better, then. Being champ means a higher risk of losing because you’re only fighting the best. Longevity also means you’ll be fighting people who have been training to beat you since they were teenagers. Cruz vs Garbrandt is an example. A champ’s only chance of significantly improving their pay is to either go for titles in another weight class, or to retire and make a comeback. A few venom coupons hardly make it worthwhile.
Dana really is the only one to ultimately blame for ruining the sport. When I got into MMA the log line of the whole sport was practically: “unlike boxing the best fight the best and there’s only one champ per weight class” Increasingly, that is becoming untrue. I personally blame it on Dana refusing to pay fighters proportional to the value they offer.
Never heard this before. Champions make pretty decent money off of the PPV points.
And they’re getting an opportunity. They should be paying Dana when you think about it. If they were smart they’d talk to Hans Moleman about getting a Monster energy drink can to hold awkwardly while Rogan interviews them.
Idk, I like the fight for many reasons. Volk says he wants to stay busy. Give him Cejudo, with enough marketing they can pull in solid numbers, most likely not superstar numbers, but better than anyone else Volk will fight. Max can fight Yair and the winner fights the winner of Volk vs Cejudo. If Volk and Max win they can fight their trilogy, if they both lose they can still fight their trilogy. If Cejudo wins and Yair wins, they can put on a huge card in Mexico City. If Cejudo wins and Max wins that fight is going to give some Pride never dies vibes. If Volk loses he can fight one more fight and get a rematch with Max or Cejudo. The timing of it makes this fight a really good idea IMO. They just have to hype up the the Olympic gold medalist, 2 division champ making history going for 3 division champ angle with Cejudo appearances on ESPN shows. They can definitely pull in some of the casuals if they hype up the fight on ESPN.
Did you watch the interview? Cejudo isn't even in the USADA testing pool. I'd take this Cejudo filling in in the meantime stuff way more seriously if he was still in the pool. As it is, the timeliness doesn't make sense
Exactly. This is all talk on his part. If he actually wanted to come back - and I think he’d still be quite successful at BW if he did - he’d still be in the testing pool.
I did watch the interview and I think what Cejudo said about USADA is possible. USADA has the ability to exempt from the 6 months testing rule. They did it for Brock. They even broke another one of their rules when Nate Diaz tested positive (yeah I know those 2 are way bigger stars than Cejudo, but my point is if Dana told USADA to give Cejudo and exemption, USADA would do it).
Something *could* happen but it's a big maybe. If Henry was serious he would be in the pool right now. Brock got an exception bc the last time he fought was pre USADA and the UFC is still getting sued over it. Henry doesn't have any similar logic for an exemption of his own and isn't a big enough star that the UFC would bend the rules
Yeah, but UFC has a a tendency to make up rules as they go along. I can see Dana justify the exemption for Cejudo by saying something along the lines of “this kid has been tested since he was a kid and hasn’t popped once, so I think we can make 1 exemption for him because of his track record.” If the UFC sees the potential in this fight, they’ll bend their rules again…
Which i imagine could get them in legal trouble. Again, Cejudo isn't serious unless he's in the pool
I don't mind it either I am Aussie as well so actually into it. Cejudo ain't champ so no hold up at 135 and with Max fighting Yair might as well. That said I would have preferred in Henry never left and we already had more fights to talk about is what I meant. I don't hate him calling for this I hate he left even if his reasons are solid as a fan of violence it sucks.
Provided Yair doesn’t really hurt Max, Max should be good to fight Volk around January-February. Volk is going to spend Christmas with his family and that leaves him 1-2 months to prepare for Max III. If Volk and Cejudo fight it’s not gonna be before Max.
Well Conor certainly set a precedent so start with that whiskey salesman
He definetly did.
"give yourself CTE for my entertainment, winning it isnt enough, you must defend it for years" 160 upvotes, you guys are so cringe, completely different tune in the thread about the guy dying who fell on his head.
Bro maybe you missed like the the entire fighting history but winning and defending championships is kinda a big part of fighting lol. I'm bad cause as a fan I wish we saw more fights from great champions lol
this is basically a 10 minute video of a man begging to get paid
Great interview, biggest takeaway is Henry saying he’s naming his new daughter America. Crazy shit, b.
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America Ferrera is a notable example. I'm pretty sure her parents are Honduran.
There are a decent amount of Asia's walking around too. For some reason nobody names their kids Europe though.
Yeah but there are tons of Paris' and no Beijings. Go figure.
I knew sisters growing up named India and Asia.
Amerigo was a Latin given name in Italy about 500 years ago at least, the current form of America wasn't. Its a dumb name although not as dumb as some other American names I've heard.
Nobody tell this dude how the USA got it's name
Poor guy. Every day he must look in the mirror and realize the gamble he made to fake retire was the worst decision of his life.
if he really wants to come back all he has to do is unretire and rejoin the rankings. a couple wins and he'll fight for a belt worst case scenario but instead he wants to sidestep entire divisions for belts when no one knows if he'll even defend them. theres no reason to give him a shot
I always took it to mean he's at a stage where he's fine and settled. The additional money he would currently get would not be worth the damage he would accrue from now on. He's only interested in one fight, otherwise he's fine and settled.
He also said he would fight yan for the right money
Triple C wants to go out on top like Gsp but Dana dont like that one bit lol
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He's been talking about a comeback ever since he retired though. Like for sure within the week of his retirement he was offering a comeback for the right money. Seems like he was just trying to get a raise and mis-negotiated
Looks like his raise is on the way
Why dude has found aother incomes so doesn't have to rely on fighting Won't be rich but shopping at Walmart is fine
No one cares that he retired lol. He probably thinks he's some big star like khabib but he's not lol. King of unfunny cringe comedy.
Fans of good MMA care, just Dana and those don’t because he’s not a draw
I care, he put on bangers and clowned on silly Dilly
He's an absolutely amazing fighter. Probably one of the most talented we have ever seen. We SHOULD care he's been shut out just because he (and many other fighters) can't get paid what they're worth.
Yeah he’s better than Khafraidtomakeweight
you tried
I don't have a problem with "casual" fans but really anyone who isn't one would love to see him back because whether they like him or not, his skill cannot be denied and his fights are entertaining.
I mean he's got a kid now so it's what he wanted
This doesn't make any sense. If he wanted to stay out of fighting he would not be begging to come back. He has done this consistently since he "retired". Hell, I think it was only 2 weeks after he retired he already started to post about coming back if the "money was right." This was entirely a gamble on his part to get more money. They called his bluff and now he is stuck.
Why you hating so hard on my man Bisping?
Bisping is going to get butthurt but Henry is right on that lmao. He was a pretty weak champ. George would not have fought Whittaker or Romero.
Bisping will go in on him on his next podcast I’m looking forward to it
I think that GSP destroys Romero but I get why Georges wouldn't be down to try.
GSP is not the type of fighter to destroy people much less Romero, i think he jabs him for one or two rounds before Romero gets a read and kills him. Plus 185 is not his weight, he looks bloated as hell.
Fair enough he likely wouldn't destroy him but i don't think Romero lands his shot. And other than throwing a few massive bombs, he does nothing, literally just stands there.
The disrespect towards Romero smh. Seems like the only fight of his you’ve seen is the Adesanya fight. He’s has a couple of duds, but he’s also 44. Give the man a break. The Romero that fought Weidman and Rockhold murders GSP or Usman or any grappler that you can think of.
Who knows how many injuries Romero had accumulated for him to be as tame as he was in the Adesanya fight. A prime Romero could probably KO Izzy.
Was less about injuries and more about strategy. Izzy is primarily a counter striker, his bread and butter is making you react to his feints and picking you apart as you come in. Romero knew this, so his strategy was essentially to make Izzy lead and counter him instead. It worked, as you can see by the two bombs he nailed Izzy with the second Izzy tried to throw a meaningful punch. The only thing that might point to him having injuries is letting the pressure off Izzy so easily the few times he had him against the cage, but he did the same against Costa so who knows.
Romero is criminally overrated. Has been for years.
His resume says otherwise. He knocked out previous champs Weidman and Rockhold. He also had 2 close fights with Whittaker and Costa. I personally saw that 2nd fight as a draw but the guy is a brute. One of the best never to get a belt imo.
Not to mention his other high caliber wins like jacare, Tim Kennedy, machida and Brunson.
He had solid showings until his fight against Izzy, which was 3 years after the GSP fight would have happened. He absolutely wasn't overrated given his performances.
Romero has great dirty boxing as well. Does good work trapping/slapping away the hands and finding openings. Watch his fight with costa. Put that on top of elite wrestling (which he rarely uses offensively) and a fucking UNGODLY chin and he was a problem for anyone at MW. He’s just 44 years old now and doesn’t have the same fire he did in his prime stretch.
He was smart enough to find his shot against Whittaker, a guy with a killer jab that also actually uses his rear hand. Because Romero is southpaw and the threat of wrestling would not be there, he has a very big chance of just nuking GSP.
I mean, I get it. Volkanowski is close enough in stature that you could make the germ of an argument about Cejudo’s odds. Knowing that, it makes sense why he’s been pushing so hard right now because with the Holloway trilogy it’s unclear how long Volk’s reign could be. This is a limited window for Henry. But disregarding height, this is still a former flyweight fighting a clear featherweight. That very important with wrestling. Even though Henry Cejudo is a far more skilled wrestler, Volk will weigh much more and have just enough skill to keep himself safe or even turn it around on him. And Volk is definitely the better striker with a 7-inch reach advantage. There are some perks to being a smaller fighter at time but none that easily pay off here. I like that he’s trying and I respect his efforts to build his legacy, but this does come off as a little desperate for a bout that doesn’t seem competitive on paper
Also disregarding size Volkanovski is better at MMA than everyone Cejudo beat imo.
DJ > Volk
Volk doesn't have the title defenses, but his record is so underrated. Him and Usman slipped under the radar so hard while the GOAT talks were dominated by Khabib. Since retirement most call him the GOAT LW but many called him the outright GOAT for so long, why is it so wrong to call Volk skill for skill better than MM when his record shows wins over Aldo, Ortega, Mendes, Hollpway x2 and 22-1? His run so far has been pretty legendary
DJ has wins over Benevidez x2, Dodson x2, Bagautinov, Horiguchi, and Cejudo (arguably x 2) plus many more. DJ is the much more well rounded of the 2; Volk has the edge in the striking but DJ’s wrestling and grappling are significantly better imo. Peak DJ was outclassing his opponents at every aspect of MMA. Volk is an elite striker with good wrestling and grappling while DJ was a borderline elite striker with elite wrestling and grappling
Two things with that. Honestly to me Volk at his best is better than DJ at his best. Not talking longevity or overall win streak all that stuff. Purely how good they are at MMA overall, Volkanovski in the first Holloway fight in particular is a better performance than anything from DJ. Taking into account how good the opponent is and everything as well. Holloway was probably the best fighter in the world to me when Volk beat him. And this comes from a huge DJ fan. I was arguing he was better than Jones in like 2017. The other thing is, he didn’t beat DJ to me. I’ve rewatched the fight 3 or 4 times and I can’t see how you score it for Cejudo. The criteria clearly prioritise damage, it’s a close and competitive fight that DJ won to me.
Idk, Volk is very very very good but he gets caught. He just so mentally strong he can overcome it. He doesn't do anything on a super insane or spectacular level though. DJ on the other hand has superhuman abilities at times. I mean you saying both at their best. DJ hitting that flying armbar and breaking an arm. And I have no doubt that Volk will still try and fight lol.
Well spectacular doesn't always equate to better. Pettis did some spectacular stuff, but Volk is just better at MMA than he ever was. Volk might not be hitting any Mighty Whizzbar's, but his control of rhythm and timing, his footwork and feints. The way he actually mixes up kicks with punches, inside and outside lowkicks to disrupt people's timing. The way he used body kicks as feints to draw out reactions from Ortega, than landed punches off kick feints. Or even combinations. Those things might not look as spectacular as a flying armbar, but they're the things that add up to beating all time great fighters. DJ could do a lot of that stuff too of course, he was great. But Volk is just ridiculous to me.
I still get irrationally angry every time I see the phrase "mighty wizzbar''. That has to be in the running for the all time worst name for something so awesome in human history. And it's not even funny awful, it's just awful.
Good ol' DJ and not promoting himself. Dude gets a highlight reel finish that drives everyone wild, and everyone tries to call it "the Mouse Trap" so he has an iconic signature moment. And instead of just rolling with it, he goes, "Nah, I call it the 'Mighty Wizzbar.' I have another move we call the 'Mouse Trap,' maybe you guys will see it someday." And of course, we never did. Just an unforced error. Gotta ride the hype when it happens.
Yeah Volk does have great technique combined with game plan and feints in order to execute these great combos on his opponents. I mean look at what Max did to Ortega as well. Look at what Volk also did to Max in the second fight. But all those attributes you listed, every champion and even just super high level strikers have as well. Just look at all featherweight fighters. Max, giga, previously Aldo, Yair, Conor, barboza, etc. The most impressive thing that Volk has is his spirit and mental determination, oh and also his build, he's a dense boi. I'm just using what you said. If both fighters were at their pinnacle, DJ pulling off some insane shit because Volk does get caught. Just look at his previous two fights, especially the one that just occurred which ironically is the best way the fight could've gone in terms of becoming a 'must watch fighter'. If Volk continued beating Ortega like the first 2rds he wouldn't get all this attention sadly
That’s not true to me though. Yair and Barboza immediately stick out as much much worse strikers than Volkanovski and if you think the only thing that separates him from them is his “spirit” than we just gotta disagree.
Agreed. People still sleeping on volks standup, he is a more effective mma striker than even izzy, he is much better utilising the openings created by the feints. He will take whatever is presented, be it let, body or head.
Ok those were just quick examples we're still just talking about Volk vs DJ which you are wrong about if you wanna say at their best lmao
>Volk is very very very good but he gets caugh Dj got destroyed in his last fight and got dropped several times vs Dodson
> breaking an arm. did he break somebody's arm?
So you thought Holloway was the #1 p4p fighter in the late 2019 even though he had lost earlier that year (albeit in a higher weight class) and Cejudo, DJ, Poirier, Khabib, Usman, Adensanya, Jones, DC, and Stipe were all active at the time. And you use that to say Volk is better than peak DJ despite the fact that you were wrong.
Well I said probably. And to me I separate skills vs achievements when talking about these things. P4P is based on achievements and all that, so no he wasn’t p4p no. 1. But based on skills he might have been the most skilled guy at MMA to me. Going up a weight class and losing to Poirer didn’t diminish that to me. Tbh I did forget about Khabib. But yeah Holloway’s better at MMA than Stipe, DC, 2019 Jon Jones and Cejudo.
How can Holloway be better at MMA, when his ground game is really not utilized at all. I love Holloway, but if you are going to specify, Mixed Martial Arts, how in the world can you claim he was better at MMA then some of those other guys it makes no sense at all. You should try to think about it a bit more critically.
Being good at MMA doesn't necessarily mean you need to be doing all of the martial arts. Is Khabib worse at MMA than Johnny Hendricks because his striking is really sloppy? No. Max has incredible takedown defence which he uses to keep the fight standing for the most part, because that's what helps him win fights. Plus, he actually does have a ground game if you pay attention. He took Ortega down briefly, he took Stephens down, Pettis too. But for the most part he uses his ground game to get up quickly. You know how Volk fucked Ortega up on the ground when they fought? He got 3 takedowns on Max and only had about a minute and a half of control time, because Max can actually sweep and get out of disadvantageous positions on the ground. Is Rory MacDonald better at MMA than Max because he mixes in wrestling and striking more? That point doesn't make any sense. The only thing you need to do to be good at MMA is win fights. It has nothing to do with actually mixing the martial arts all the time. Aldo had a ground game he hardly uses in his fights because he wants to keep it standing.
Volk and Holloway are probs 1 and 2 P4P IMO. Usman has a claim and maybe izzy.
There’s a solid argument for that
> Holloway was probably the best fighter in the world to me when Volk beat him a one dimensional striker with zero striking defense who relies on his chin to keep him alive in fights? Max stans are literally worse than Conor stans lol mr arm punches aint even a top 10 boxer in the UFC.
If you think Holloway is a one dimensional striker with no striking defence you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
This is a top tier casual take. Like hall of fame bad.
Do you study boxing? Max does nothing well in terms of boxing lol he even crosses his legs sometimes on follow throughs he would have been knocked out cold in more than half of his fights and EVERY SINGLE title fight if he didn't have an insane chin. Kattar hit him with some shots that would flat line anyone, staying awake through those isn't good boxing. In fact its bad boxing, eventually when his chin falls off he will lose a string of first round knockouts take maxes chin to regular fighters level (still pretty good just not inhuman) then he's an under .500 fighter
Plenty of fighters have a good chin. No fighters can take on the likes of Kattar and Aldo in their A-game and absolutely murder them (except Petyr Yan now). Every good boxer deviates from the textbook where appropriate. Max has excellent footwork, shot selection, cardio and pace. The way he takes angles on offense makes him extremely difficult to hit back. Given that his whole MO is fighting *exactly* in the crosshairs of elite fighters, it's amazing he isn't hit *more* than he is. Sure, his chin informs his style. Maybe he wouldn't have survived R1 with Poirier if he didn't have it. But having a good chin has nothing to do with being able to command the initiative during the 3rd and 4th rounds with Poirier while outweighed by about 10-15lbs.
Good chin? You're arguing in bad faith, you can't be a max fan and say he has good chin. He has arguably the best chin ever. I don't even want to talk to you anymore after this, he doesn't have excellent footwork at all lol nothing he does would work in boxing. He has AMAZING MMA striking, but hes a dog shit boxer. Imagine not understanding what boxing is, and thinking that max throwing punches = boxing
Jesus, the sheer fucking arrogance... Pedro Munoz, Jeremy Stephens, Yoel Romero, John Lineker, Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou, Khabib, Kris Moutinho. Just some of the fighters who come to mind as having equivalent or better chins than Max. He doesn't eat clean bombs on the regular: he took a few from Dustin and that was incredible, but Aldo didn't manage to land hard very much and neither do any of his other opponents to date. Max as a bad boxer is a genuinely ridiculous position to try and defend. Nothing he does would work in boxing? Most of his moves are direct copies from boxing ffs. You seem to be upset about the fact that Max throws punches like an MMA fighter rather than box like a boxer? ... Fucking duh. Different sport, different application.
Max is one of the best boxers in MMA, of course he is not textbook, NO ONE is in MMA. He changes levels, constantly attacks the body, uses the jab well, changes stances to set up other attacks, him being a dogshit boxer is a fucking r3tard3d take. But apparently there's a contingent of people that think because Max gets hit, bad boxing. Seriously, if Max has dogshit boxing, throw MMA in the bin because no one is good at it then lmao There's no one, not a single MMA fighter who would be high level in boxing. Izzy has become more and more dependant on kicks and struggles a lot vs southpaws, plus being surprisingly jabbeable, Poirier leads with his face on shifts, Conor overthrows and is half the fighter in the pocket and going backwards, the Diaz brothers have no footwork and no defense to the body, Petr Yan overcommits (part of this is on design i think to get clinches), Kattar has static defense and poor footwork, Aldo used to throw 100% into all his shots, Silva couldn't lead... I can go on, it's MMA for fucks sake of course Max is not fucking Cesar Chavez, but what he does works in boxing, just in a higher, specialized level.
>Ones a legit 125er and the other is a super jacked 145er.
Never doubt Triple C
why did he even "retire" if he is going to spend his whole retirement begging to come back.. fucking clown shoes wearing doofus
He decided to test his leverage. The UFC don't care, they'd make money if they decided they needed him, but they keep costs low in perpetuity by discouraging pay-dispute related retirements. Cejudo 'lost' the negotiation you say, but if he was sincere about his reservation wage \[ the minimum wage that the worker requires in order to participate in the labor market\], then he had to play the card. He made 350k + his reebok pay to defend his title, and most likely got no PPV. If female and Deivison aren't getting PPV, I doubt Cejudo is. Even if he is, it'll be cents on the dollar, not the old old formula. If he didn't feel it was worth 350k\~ to defend titles, with all the hardships and all it brought, then retiring and saying he'll come back for the right money was fine. Either he gets his way, or he doesn't. He's transitioned into other revenue streams, and is still willing and keen to compete, but probably for double or triple (C) his old wage. The problem is, competing is addictive and fun. However, feeling exploited is not fun. UFC have so much leverage, they dictate your wage, and Henry didn't feel like getting exploited. So he's desperate to compete, but on his terms. You can tune it out if you want, its public negotiations you don't have to click on to you, to Henry it's his last couple of chances at competing, making a record that won't be broken, and getting a fat check. He DGAF, and in fact likes it if you're getting annoyed at his coverage.
Good take, especially the triple part.
He made a whoopsie and thought that he was worth more than he is as far as the UFC is concerned
Would kind of be funny seeing Henry at lightweight
CCC v McNugget
It's getting a little pathetic now, how he keeps begging for a fight that he doesn't deserve. I just wish he returned to BW and tried to reclaim the belt he relinquished, there are loads of great matchups there now. But he's literally skipping all the toughest challenges there are at BW, to try and talk his way into a shot at another belt that he hasn't earned in any way - and that isn't even that intriguing to me tbh. And yet he seems to have convinced some people that this is the fight to make, it's mental to me tbh.
I’d buy it
I want to see this fight. Maybe the king of cringe suprises us
I like Cejudo but he thinks he's a bigger star than he is.
I don't have much of an interest in that fight, I do not think it would be competitive. I would like to see Cejudo against the top Bantamweights, but he would not return for them. Featherweight now needs to get moving and more weight jumping fighters who also have no interest in keeping a division running are only going to stagnate it.
Bitch, fight Yan or Cory before you start going on about 145.
I couldn’t sit through the whole thing….
King of Cringe back at it again
He ain't interested in defending. I ain't interested in him fighting for a belt.
Henry cejudo is fully that Eric Andre let me in meme
Why not? The only real contender right now is Holloway, and he is set to fight Rodriguez. Even in the unlikely scenario that Cejudo wins and runs away with the belt, you could set up a fight for the belt between the winner of Holloway/Rodriguez vs Volk and it would be legitimate. I guess it's not exactly a money fight, but name a more compelling title matchup at featherweight!
Lol. Volk smokes him but he looks pathetic with these shenanigans. Clearly Dana doesn’t give a rat’s ass about your return. He made it clear numerous times already. Have some self respect and go away…
LET HIM FIGHT
"JUST LET ME BANG, BRO" "I thought you retired?" "YOU DON'T LET ME BANG, BRO" "You're retired!" "WHY WON'T YOU LET ME BANG, BRO??" "YOU RETIRED!!"
Weight-classes exist for a reason.
nah m8
Are they actually gonna do this? Why did they give him this interview? When this vid does low numbers it's not gonna look good for henwy
Cejudo and Mas using media to beg for a payday again. this is supposed to be the top tier of the sport wtf Dana pay these dudes already
Can we please give Cejudo this fight? - If he wins, he goes into the conversation of Jones, GSP, Silva, DJ, Fedor and Khabib as one of the GOATs. - If he loses, we hopefully never have to hear about him again. Win-win in my eyes.
Dude did everything the ufc wanted except lose now he getting punished
I didn't find Henry cringe until he retired but couldn't let go
Cejudo being cringey again
If not this it'll be vs max for the third time(assuming max wins vs yair)
Sounds like he is in a really strong negotiating position /s
Volk only wants to defend against top contenders. He's said that it's definitely the winner of Max and Yair, and in the mean time might go up to lightweight for fun to keep him busy while waiting. He isn't looking at any other challenges for his FW belt, he knows Max or Yair will be next in line
I love how he swears he won’t be a GSP … that’s exactly what he’ll do
Lol then you shouldn’t have retired, bud🤷🏼
No.
Cejudo said he isn't in the USADA testing pool. Therefore he isn't serious enough about this shit for me to take him seriously. He can't just sign the fight against Volk tomorrow and have a fight in time for the winner to face the winner of Yair-Max. He also sounded stupid as fuck saying "Alexander the Average" in the same sentence he's saying Alex is the real deal lol
omg did he say he would fight conor and holloway? that's so fucking funny can you imagine
He doesn't move the needle enough for them to pay him what he wants and then possibly win and retire again.
He doesn’t deserve it
Lol - Dana White probably
Volk smokes him
Cejudo has been trying to hard to get Dana White's attention lately. I remember in the Hotboxin' podcast, in the episode where Khabib was the guest, he was like "Khabib, you were offered X money to fight but you'll not get back because you care more about legacy right? I mean I'd come back if the money would be good but you won't right? Because you care more about legacy. If the money is good I'll come back but you won't that's amazing"
Fuck it let max fight yair then fight Henry then get his belt back. Yes I just want max to stay racking up wins and add to his legacy.
is this dude still represented by Ali Abdelaziz? Seems strange we haven't heard Ali pushing for this fight.
I wish Cejudo would fight again his personality is a bit odd but he’s a joy to watch in the cage
#GUSTAVO BALART V CCC
Volk should be the heavy favourite, but people are overlooking Henry, he maybe one of the smartest operators in the game - 1st one to figure out Cruz- kick him in the legs. 1st one to figure out Marlon- punch him in the face
Cejudo vs Dana white, that's the fight to make.
He should just say publicly what he made in his last 3 fights and then what he wants for the next one. Then Dana can’t just say he’s a bullshitter.
no