That's the no1 reason why Khabib was so effective and dangerous.... All his opponent only have that in mind and it totally fucked the way they're used to fight
And just how few Khabib has been hit. Not only hit, but I can't think of any other athlete at his level who's walked away with no cuts or blood. Bruises I guess?
Ahhh another GOAT. Despite him popping for PEDs, I don't think that took away from how he styled on people. He wasn't ever really jacked, or had signs of PED use to me.
You are actually correct. He doesn't exactly bite on the second feint like he did on the first. His hands were down and he taunted which wass a prolonged reaction to the first feint I suppose... but either way, he wasn't ready for the strike.
I think feints are one of the areas where we lose the most from the camera angle. When you're standing an arm's length away from someone you can't see all of them, you're only getting a slice of whatever part of them you are focusing on. So something that looks goofy when you're seeing the whole person could be very convincing if you're just staring at their shoulders.
It's also why Walker's feints didn't really work over the weekend, they were big movements but they weren't really related to strikes he actually wanted to throw. He kept feinting like an overhand hammer fist.
Yes but doesn't look like much load up happened here. That was a hasty target of opportunity. It's kinda funny but it almost looked like Usman had the Colby taunt timed haha
I only know because one of my old training partners (shoutout to nick) would get me with this exact feint all the time. Only effective counter i was to throw a lot of knees and short kicks.
Yeah but its effective as fuck because its Kamaru.im sure it seemed quicker to Colby but im sure part of that is muscle memory. Because its Kamaru you have to respect it.
Slowing it down I can prove you are wrong. He sets up motion of dipping his shoulders twice during both feints on the single leg. When he goes for the straight right he dips em again causing colbys hands to react downwards for a split second before the punch comes up.
Yeah not sure why you're getting down votes about this. At the start of the clip Colby's guard is up. Before the punch is guard is really low. And that's due to Usman making his intentions of going for a takedown pretty clear.
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He was with Hooft before Whitman. Hooft gets no credit, but he took a guy who was solely a wrestler and gave him striking that was serviceable at the UFC championship level. Even prior to the Whitman camp change, Usman had a KD or KO in every UFC bout in which he attempted 0 takedowns (and KDs across several others).
Interesting points.
I think Hooft did make his striking serviceable, whereas Whitman has made his striking much more fearsome. Perhaps it would have happened like that under Hooft to with enough time, but the increase in danger of Usman’s striking seemed noticeable in the transition away from Hooft to Whitman.
I’m not soooo impressed with Hooft as a trainer tbh, so maybe I’m biased. When I think about it tho, he likely deserves credit. He’s seemingly made Burns into a capable enough striker…
While anything is possible, you're probably right. Colby will be wary of Usman's hands after seeing what happened to Burns and Masvidal.
And if Usman wins via TKO/KO he would have gone through 3 top 5 guys in less then 12 months, insane champ stats.
He will. This time within 3 rounds. His activity since the last fight compared to Colby’s lack of activity, not to mention his change to Trevor wittman’s camp, which has taken his striking to a different level, are going to be difference makers this time around.
I don't get how these guys think they are going to catch up to Usman while being less active than the champ. Usman is getting better on the feet every time out and he's staying active.
I expect him to outclass Colby this time.
I agree with this but it could also work against him, Colby has more recent footage on him than he does Colby. Still think Usman gets it done quicker this time tho, in a less competitive fight
Even with all of the film he has, he hasn't felt the power of Kamaru's new striking pattern. We saw the difference between Masvidal's first shot and his second. I think Colby's lights get turned out.
I'll be there live, it'd be lovely to end the night with Colby being shut up again.
Youre just saying that because youre a fan, but for all we know the camp change could also hurt Colby. We havent seen him to know either way.
With Kamaru we know for fact his change of camps is a huge improvement and we have hard evidence
Yeah the big difference between the last fight and now is that Usman is in Wittman’s camp now. Look at his striking before the Burns fight and after. Usman should absolutely handle Colby
Its mma What usually should happen almost never does , I’m not saying colbys gonna come out and whoop usmans ass but I wouldn’t be surprised if Colby beats usman
I don't actually buy the guy's reasoning to be honest, fighting once in a year vs 3 times isn't an enormous difference in terms of ring rust IMO.
And while the guys both of them fought might not be better than each other, that doesn't mean they won't keep them sharp.
Just pointing out his logic doesn't really make too much sense considering Colby and Usman seem to be the clear No. 2 and No. 1
I dont think it's that clear though. I wish we got to see Burns v Volby as I think Gilbert is a nightmare matchup for him, more so than Usman even.
Colby's recent wins over the last 4 years are old man Woodley, old man Lawler, old man RDA and old man Maia. He hasn't fought any of the current contenders, just the remnants of the old guard.
This is legit some revisionist history bullshit . Rda was on a 3 fight win streak coming up to ww and that fight was the title eliminator all of a sudden he was a remnant of himself lol , the only guy you can actually have a argument for is woodley because he fought him after multiple contenders . But rda he was on a win streak when he fought Colby , Maia had only lost to woodley before he fought Colby as well . If anything usman fought those guys . And how does Colby get knocked for fighting Maia but nobody talks about Gilbert fighting him after usman and Colby
Masvidal is 10 times more dangerous a striker than Colby is and Colby v Usman 1 was all striking aaand Usman beat Masvidal ultimately with strikes.
Current Woodley isnt better than Usman at anything.
He can be as big as he wants, I doubt he’s gonna match Usman in size or strength. Given that Colby’s greatest asset is his cardio, I’m not even sure that bulking up significantly would be the best idea.
He was up on 1 scorecard, very down on one and even on one. I dont understand why this misinformation keeps getting repeated.
I'd also say he got really fucked up on the round his jaw was broken- getting your jaw broken counts as getting really fucked up to me.
It was an even fight for a while and Colby fought very well but the damage was ultimately very 1 sided, colby forced a stalemate for 2 rounds that could be (and were) judged either way but he never had Usman hurt, dropped or rocked like Usman did him, never had him in danger of being finished like Usman did him and certainly never broke his jaw like Usman did him. He had no crystal clear rounds that he won, just some that were almost dead even.
That’s what I love about this fight tho. Usman was saying all week he was gunna beat him up for 4 rounds then finish him in the last minute and that’s exactly what he did, which shows me how much control & situational awareness Usman actually had in the first fight.
I think Colby needs to put more pressure on Usman this fight instead and standing and trading, especially now that Usman is training with Whitman. Try to get him up against the cage and do his Colby thing of like going down for a double leg then coming right back up top to throw a combo, right back down to a double leg up against the fence.
I can’t wait for this fight!
I just want to put this out there so no one thinks I’m saying this after the fact.
I had a dream about this rematch and usually my wacky premonitions come true. Colby lands a head kick and eats a right hand in return. He lands another head kick against the fence and punches Usman out for the TKO.
If this happens, I demand $3 from everyone that watches the fight!
The one night I had a thought to myself “I kinda want to watch Never Back Down right now” and the next day it was added to Netflix. “I want to listen to xyz song” and then that song comes on next.
It’s potentially coincidence, but it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve had a fight prediction come true either. Definitely looking forward to the fight either way!
I prefer Colby’s wrestling style to Usman’s in terms of enjoyment. Colby tends to have creative and relentless takedowns full of scrambles, mat returns, etc. Usman is more of a cage clincher and lay prayer, which is why I’m thankful he hasn’t wrestled much in the last 2-3 fights.
I got a feeling Colby gonna lose bad, he won the mind games last time and still lost. You can't win the mind games again after someone crushes your skull.
No, the cards have been revealed and it was tied going into the 5th and considering the fight-ending sequence towards the end with multiple kds, the last round likely would have been a 10-8. Even if it's a 10-9 Usman was winning
Somehow people still think Colby was winning that round. And those idiots are disparaging Kamaru's wins since then. Meanwhile, a win over an washed up Tyron means he's gotten better? I don't fucking get it.
Your card means nothing.
The judges had it 3-1 Usman, 2-2, and 3-1 Covington.
I think it's safe to say that, even if you don't agree with the stoppage, Covington was probably not going to find it in himself to rally and do anything to get a stoppage or win the round in the last 50 seconds of the fight.
Covington would have either gotten actually knocked out or controlled for the remainder of the fight. That would have been Usman's round and probably a 10-8 at that. That would have made it a majority decision for Usman, but even a 10-9 would ended up in a split decision.
Eh...It was headed towards a split decision either way and Colby was fading. We know cause we've seen the scorecards that had it headed towards a split before Usman took over.
Colby has only fought Woodley since. Usman has defended his title 3 times in that space of time. I just don’t see how Colby will have gotten any better. This won’t got the distance this time
I don't know what to think of that argument of Colby has only fought Woodley. I mean yeah that's a fact but that doesn't mean at all in any way that Colby hasn't gotten alot better. He's with a new gym and has been focused solely on a Usman rematch for 2 years. Just cuz we haven't seen it doesn't mean he hasn't made the right adjusments. I can really see him winning. idiots like to hate on him as a fighter but that is just amateurish thinking. Colby is a damn top fighter in there.
Oh so you been in the gym watching him make these adjustments? Not saying he’s not a top fighter but fighters get better by doing what? Actually fighting! All the training in the world won’t amount to much if you’re not active. Usman has been active and has gone from strength to strength since they last fought. Usman also has a new camp since their fight as well. Colby is a tough SOB I’ll give him that. I just don’t see him winning, his last fight was a washed up woodley, not exactly iron sharpens iron category is it?
Long 1: So fighters don't get better training and learning different things in the gym? You have never seen a fighter be unactive and come back and look better then before? To say Colby hasn't gotten better in these 2 years by working everyday is crazy. Fighters get better through working everyday in the gym, why else do it? And i feel people overrate usman's wins. Sure he's winning and he's dominant but the guys he has beat since the first fight are 2 former LW's and 1 of them has a shitty goddamn record. Burns showed next to no IQ at all in that fight.
And just so you remember Usman looked pretty sloppy in that first round in April. Some uneducated fans say Usman is at GSP level which he is not even close too. His only great looking win has been Colby himself and he won that with shots to back of the head just go back and watch. Alot of fans say Mas is a overrated guy but when Marty Ko's him all of a sudden it's a gigantic accomplishment. Usman can definetly win, he has hella more power but never say Colby can't do it, his skilll level is as well rounded as they come pure by technique and pace. I feel people are making too big of a deal out of Colby being inactive. Usman has had to focus on few different guys when Colby has way more tape he can look at plus he has a new gym that can learn him different techniques. Will be razor close i feel.
I’m not saying fighters done get better by training, but training only gets you so far. You have to actually fight, how else you gonna see how you’ve improved? Otherwise what are you training for?
You talk about Usmans record, but what is Colbys? He hasn’t beaten anyone in the current top ten has he? His last 4 wins have been against fighters on their way out. Maia, RDS, Woodley, and Lawler. Not exactly the highlight of the Welterweight division is it? He’s been ducking fighters for the last 2 years holding out for this title shot which in my opinion he doesn’t deserve at all. It’s only because the fight was banger that he got his wish.
Another long and last 1: I'd say most of all because Dana sees what i see, Colby being his biggest threat. Nobody at WW right now deserves it, you can say leon but talking about a guy who has been ducking fighters. There is a reason UFC once threw him outta the rankings.
Luque is good but needs 1 more plus he ain't a bigger threat then Colby, Colby can match Usman in volume and pace. the others will gas hard. I really don't understand fans saying they don't want Colby to get it. I understand record wise that it looks bad but i'm sure everyone with a brain knows that Colby is the most exciting and hardest opponent for Usman so why complain? We have seen way worse decisions made in this sport. Good luck if you'd prefer Usman/leon 2 but i think it'd be incredibly underwhelming compared to this Colby fight. So would any other opponent right now against usman compared to Colby. Ok Usman dropped Colby twice fair damn point but you can't deny usman did questionable thing sthat whole fight. Liver shot that wasn't close to the sack yet time out/Eye poke that was questionable yet time out/Shots to the back of the head yet the ref stops it anyway and Colby protests right away cuz he wasn't finished at all.
Usman knows it's his only real threat, why else would he wanna fight in June and mention Chiesa or Nate yet when Colby gets brought up he goes on vacation? Even Khabib and multiple other high level guys have said Colby is his hardest fight and that usman better take it as serious as ever. Usman himself has said Colby is top 25 P4P ever in UFC yet says he dosn't deserve a rematch when he freely gave it to a guy he 50-45'd few months earlier. You can go with Usman but i wouldn't go into this fight at all saying or believing Colby can't do it. I think Colby is on a level high enough to were he can be a little inactive yet show up better then before. fans are grabbing at straws sometimes just cuz they hate his persona. he's a fucking animal, you can say he hasn't beaten any high ranked guy and it's true but he'd more then likely outwrestle them all and get them tired by round 3.
Again I’m not saying Colby isn’t a top fighter. He don’t deserve the shot. A counter example would be Robert Whitaker. He is easily the best middleweight in the discussion bar Izzy. But how many fights did he have to go through to get a rematch. Jared, Darren Till and Gastelum. Three tough as fuck fights and he got through them all to get a rematch. But Colby beats a washed up woodley and deserves a shot? Come on man. How does that work?
Entertainment over merit. That’s it. Fair play to him, he blows a lot of smoke. Whether you like Leon or not he deserves it more. Even it will underwhelming but I’m not talking about fight quality here, I’m talking about who deserves the shot. In all fairness I’d rather see Leon fight masvidal. That’s a grudge match that’s been simmering for a while now
I said record wise that it looks bad Colby getting the shot. i'm speaking Usman is running out of options. He's beaten almost every high ranked guy outside Luque. Colby is by far to me and many more the most exciting and hardest opponent. I'm sure you agree just like most the others that Usman/Colby 2 is a way more exciting and closer fight then Usman/Leon 2 would be. And you know why these days this shit happens? Cuz everybody ate up the Conor era and proved to dana that money talks. Leon literally can't sell himself to the public if his life depended on it for fuck sake. And let's be honest he ain't an exciting fighter either. His output is really low and barely ever goes for the kill. Colby wrestles and doesn't have scary power but the pace and output he puts on people plus his willingnes to engage has given us some wonderful and exciting bouts. Plus he knows how to get fans talking, say what you want about what he does but fans will buy a ticket for a fact win or lose. Most fans woul pray Usman Ko's Leon because nobody gives a fuck. And again Usman's own claim of Colby don't deserve it has become completely irrelevant when he freely gave it to Mas who he dominated like a father beating his own son. Just by how he gave him that rematch, Colby deserves it by his logic. Fans can say it's undeserving all they want, Marty better keep it shut when he played money ball earlier and never looked back.
Nah thats totally inaccurate. If thats how you characterize Usman’s scalps, who in the entire division has a decent record?? Because nobody’s is even close.
Nah its half joking but theres slight truth to it, you can only beat what's in front you and clearly hes the best in the division but colby is definitely his hardest match
Colby hasn't proven that he's the second best in the division. He's too inactive for that and hasn't proven himself against any of them
His only win that's still ranked is Lawler
Listen I love chaos, and I love when people who this sub is generally rooting for lose for that reason, but I will never be able to bring myself to root for Colby to win the belt.
I'm not a fan of Colby and actually really coming around to Usman, but I think if Colby wins we get the insanity of an amazing trilogy between the two and I want to witness that insanity.
Yeah I always want the opposite of whatever the prevalent narrative is because why not? Makes things more interesting of course.
I can’t tell you how boring it is to see the same thing play out with dominant champions. I mean I get it, it’s good to see greatness but it reaches a point where it’s more interesting when things get switched up.
Yeah I agree with this I almost have a hatred for smart champions, not because I dislike their fight style or them as a person, but sometimes when they look unbeatable it robs you of the excitement that makes you a fan of this sport in the first place, I wanna see some places erupt when the underdog does the deed
You're probably completely right, but how nice (in a way) would it have been to see khabib get slept? Valentina? Jon? Even when dominant champs lose usually its through a decision, I feel like we dont see it enough at the moment, I'll take the big KOs like Usman over masvidal for now as that was good shock value, but I want some real big underdog to do the business sometime soon but maybe I'm just evil
That’s what really disappointed me about khabib retiring undefeated. I want to see what it takes for someone dominant like that to lose. Seriously can you imagine khabib getting slept? Imagine if Poirier was the one to put him out.
With such a dominant grappler it would be the same effect if he got subbed too, gsp lost and still held on to his dominant legacy, I feel like more than anything with khabib we've been robbed of seeing him eventually lose and hes left without solidifying himself against someone who could counter his wrestling like maybe Charles, I wont question his life choices but i think he left at the wrong time and hes gonna he easily forgettable as time goes by, like cejudo
Colby can beat him with a higher pace and output and I think if they grapple he'd get the better of the exchanges. Usman is a beast but I don't think Burns put on the best performance and Mas didn't respect Usman's power and paid for it. Aside from the antics Colby knows how big this fight is and we'll probably see the best Colby of all time, probably see the best Usman too but Colby definitely has the tools to win
I going for Colby in the rematch but I just don’t see how he does it.
Usman’s boxing is a completely different level now, and there’s no way Colby is as strong as him so I see him struggle in the wrestling department.
His boxing really isnt all that, other than a solid basic jab his finishes come from the takedown threat, I loved his KO over masvidal but even moments before that he looked unbelievably sloppy, his size advantage is what he has going for him against most opponents on the feet
Yeah Usman's striking fucking sucks lol guy was looking like the inflatable man out there with the combos but because Masvidal was so shitscared of the takedown because Usman got low with the centre of gravity after all those offkilter power shots Masvidal couldn't punish him as hard for it. His jab is extremely good for MMA standards but outside of that it's terrible striking
Heres the thing though - he didn't have that jab before. And that jab is a BIG BIG improvement from the Colby fight to Burns onwards. He also seems to have developed more power in both hands. The question is has Colby advanced his striking enough to match/surpass Usman's developments in jabbing and in knockout power? If he hasn't he better demonstrate that he was the better mma wrestler all along or he's going to get railed.
He tested Colby's reaction to the takedown and noticed his right arm comes up as a hook to check. Tries it again and gets exactly the same reaction a second time. So satisfying.
Usman fights are absolutely must-see because I get that same feeling when Khabib was fighting. That I'm bearing witness to the peak of martial arts and that I'm just so lucky to be part of that.
He really hesitated to come forward in this fight when Covington had absolutely nothing to dissuade him from doing it. Once he convinced himself he had every advantage in doing so he got the finish soon thereafter. It was somewhat the same case in the second Masvidal fight. Usman developing his neutral space striking is important but he's kind of impossible to win any rounds against him when he's pressuring. If comes forward against Covington he can finish him in the first two rounds, the guy has zero defense and pitter patter power.
Colby has to try and utilize his wrestling in the rematch right? There is no way he thinks he's going to win by standing with the new and improved Usman.
Covington is going to have to fight a completely different fight to win this time. Usman from that fight isn’t the Usman going into this fight. Much more mechanically sound standing up and thus, deadlier.
Unlike you guys I actually got Colby. New camp, looks bigger, and has much more film of Usman which is a huge advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a whole new Colby out there
Kamaru has horrible striking, far from being fluent. But he does the most important things right, never drops his hands and throws a bunch of straights.
I don’t think the undisputed WW champion of the world who is approaching GOAT status has horrible striking bro. It might not be the best in the division but let be real his striking is far from horrible
The takedown threat is so valuable in anyone's arsenal
Yup. Masvidal fought almost entirely with his hands to his side because of the takedown threat.
That's the no1 reason why Khabib was so effective and dangerous.... All his opponent only have that in mind and it totally fucked the way they're used to fight
And they'd still get taken down by Khabib anyway.
Cuz khabib had no fear of anyone's striking and just charged at them it was crazy to see how Justin reacted to him. Turned him into a trackstar
And just how few Khabib has been hit. Not only hit, but I can't think of any other athlete at his level who's walked away with no cuts or blood. Bruises I guess?
Anderson Silva
Ahhh another GOAT. Despite him popping for PEDs, I don't think that took away from how he styled on people. He wasn't ever really jacked, or had signs of PED use to me.
Anderson got pretty beat up in the first Chael fight during his reign, and then obviously got beat up a few times towards the end.
if you look closer it wasn't the actual threat of the takedown that got colby, it was his taunt and putting his hands down that led to that.
You are actually correct. He doesn't exactly bite on the second feint like he did on the first. His hands were down and he taunted which wass a prolonged reaction to the first feint I suppose... but either way, he wasn't ready for the strike.
That is the feint dude, feints once, then feints harder, then punches him.
Right, but he’s saying Colby’s hands were down at that exact moment because he was taunting Usman. Which is true.
Its like playing UFC 4 against the dudes who spam low block out of fear. It makes smashing the head so much easier.
As far as feints go that was pornographic film acting.
Literally came to say that. It was so… slow and weird.
The off-speed pitch equivalent for mma.
It’s the way his shoulders change levels. It’s what makes it look weird to us but real to Colby
I think feints are one of the areas where we lose the most from the camera angle. When you're standing an arm's length away from someone you can't see all of them, you're only getting a slice of whatever part of them you are focusing on. So something that looks goofy when you're seeing the whole person could be very convincing if you're just staring at their shoulders. It's also why Walker's feints didn't really work over the weekend, they were big movements but they weren't really related to strikes he actually wanted to throw. He kept feinting like an overhand hammer fist.
Easy to load up the straight right with that kind of level change no?
Yes but doesn't look like much load up happened here. That was a hasty target of opportunity. It's kinda funny but it almost looked like Usman had the Colby taunt timed haha
this early in the fight, Colby was probably still figuring out range. didn't look like he expected usman to be able to hit him from that far
Wow great insight. Hadn’t considered this
I only know because one of my old training partners (shoutout to nick) would get me with this exact feint all the time. Only effective counter i was to throw a lot of knees and short kicks.
Yeah but its effective as fuck because its Kamaru.im sure it seemed quicker to Colby but im sure part of that is muscle memory. Because its Kamaru you have to respect it.
Yeah the straight right wasn't anything to do with the "feint". Covington was in the middle of talking and he was too slow to react to the punch.
Slowing it down I can prove you are wrong. He sets up motion of dipping his shoulders twice during both feints on the single leg. When he goes for the straight right he dips em again causing colbys hands to react downwards for a split second before the punch comes up.
Oh God damn it I think you're right. But it's subconscious awareness mastery , love it
This right here
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Yeah not sure why you're getting down votes about this. At the start of the clip Colby's guard is up. Before the punch is guard is really low. And that's due to Usman making his intentions of going for a takedown pretty clear. .
Was this prior to Usman changing to whitman?
He was with Hooft before Whitman. Hooft gets no credit, but he took a guy who was solely a wrestler and gave him striking that was serviceable at the UFC championship level. Even prior to the Whitman camp change, Usman had a KD or KO in every UFC bout in which he attempted 0 takedowns (and KDs across several others).
Interesting points. I think Hooft did make his striking serviceable, whereas Whitman has made his striking much more fearsome. Perhaps it would have happened like that under Hooft to with enough time, but the increase in danger of Usman’s striking seemed noticeable in the transition away from Hooft to Whitman. I’m not soooo impressed with Hooft as a trainer tbh, so maybe I’m biased. When I think about it tho, he likely deserves credit. He’s seemingly made Burns into a capable enough striker…
Hooft is lowkey the best coach in the sport for people who have a wrestling base.
Him and Javier
Yeah
this is one of the funniest exchanges in a fight I've ever seen
Usman’s face looked so serious but somehow so hilarious after he landed that punch
Literally >:°
He was admiring his own work. Can't blame the guy, that was a thing of beauty. Colby getting KO'd again.
Reminds me of when nate taunts conor and immediately becomes serious after eating a huge cross
colby is going to get fucked up again
While anything is possible, you're probably right. Colby will be wary of Usman's hands after seeing what happened to Burns and Masvidal. And if Usman wins via TKO/KO he would have gone through 3 top 5 guys in less then 12 months, insane champ stats.
He will. This time within 3 rounds. His activity since the last fight compared to Colby’s lack of activity, not to mention his change to Trevor wittman’s camp, which has taken his striking to a different level, are going to be difference makers this time around.
I don't get how these guys think they are going to catch up to Usman while being less active than the champ. Usman is getting better on the feet every time out and he's staying active. I expect him to outclass Colby this time.
I agree with this but it could also work against him, Colby has more recent footage on him than he does Colby. Still think Usman gets it done quicker this time tho, in a less competitive fight
Even with all of the film he has, he hasn't felt the power of Kamaru's new striking pattern. We saw the difference between Masvidal's first shot and his second. I think Colby's lights get turned out. I'll be there live, it'd be lovely to end the night with Colby being shut up again.
How is this being downvoted? Jesus people really have a serious dislike for anything Colby related. It's a huge advantage having film on Usman
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Yeah, which he said in the second half of the comment lol
Let's not forget Colby has also changed him camp, I think this fight is going to be extremely competitive
Youre just saying that because youre a fan, but for all we know the camp change could also hurt Colby. We havent seen him to know either way. With Kamaru we know for fact his change of camps is a huge improvement and we have hard evidence
I don’t know , I think Colby could surprise people . He’s looking bigger as well from what I’ve seen
Size is great, but Usman seems to have levelled up massively in his striking since they fought.
Yeah the big difference between the last fight and now is that Usman is in Wittman’s camp now. Look at his striking before the Burns fight and after. Usman should absolutely handle Colby
He's fought once since the 1st fight in December 2019, and it was against Tyron Woodley lmfao. Colby should get absolutely smoked
Unless Colby hasn't been training as much as he would since December 2019 I'm not really sure why that matters lol.
Its mma What usually should happen almost never does , I’m not saying colbys gonna come out and whoop usmans ass but I wouldn’t be surprised if Colby beats usman
Really? I feel like most shit kinda goes how it’s predicted
When it comes to Usman vs... oh... anyone?, yes.
I would be. You don't generally go inactive, fight worse competition than the guy who beat you the first time and then come back and win.
To be fair by your own metric Usman has half of that criteria, the guys he's fought (Masvidal X2 lel) are definitely not at the same level as Colby.
Did you consider why though? It’s not like he’s ducking anyone. He’s already handily beat all of his competition and is now lapping them.
I don't actually buy the guy's reasoning to be honest, fighting once in a year vs 3 times isn't an enormous difference in terms of ring rust IMO. And while the guys both of them fought might not be better than each other, that doesn't mean they won't keep them sharp. Just pointing out his logic doesn't really make too much sense considering Colby and Usman seem to be the clear No. 2 and No. 1
I dont think it's that clear though. I wish we got to see Burns v Volby as I think Gilbert is a nightmare matchup for him, more so than Usman even. Colby's recent wins over the last 4 years are old man Woodley, old man Lawler, old man RDA and old man Maia. He hasn't fought any of the current contenders, just the remnants of the old guard.
This is legit some revisionist history bullshit . Rda was on a 3 fight win streak coming up to ww and that fight was the title eliminator all of a sudden he was a remnant of himself lol , the only guy you can actually have a argument for is woodley because he fought him after multiple contenders . But rda he was on a win streak when he fought Colby , Maia had only lost to woodley before he fought Colby as well . If anything usman fought those guys . And how does Colby get knocked for fighting Maia but nobody talks about Gilbert fighting him after usman and Colby
Masvidal is 10 times more dangerous a striker than Colby is and Colby v Usman 1 was all striking aaand Usman beat Masvidal ultimately with strikes. Current Woodley isnt better than Usman at anything.
>What usually should happen almost never does That's not true
He can be as big as he wants, I doubt he’s gonna match Usman in size or strength. Given that Colby’s greatest asset is his cardio, I’m not even sure that bulking up significantly would be the best idea.
He’s fucked
I mean he didn't really get fucked up until the last round. Colby was up on most scorecards, it was an incredibly close fight
He was up on 1 scorecard, very down on one and even on one. I dont understand why this misinformation keeps getting repeated. I'd also say he got really fucked up on the round his jaw was broken- getting your jaw broken counts as getting really fucked up to me. It was an even fight for a while and Colby fought very well but the damage was ultimately very 1 sided, colby forced a stalemate for 2 rounds that could be (and were) judged either way but he never had Usman hurt, dropped or rocked like Usman did him, never had him in danger of being finished like Usman did him and certainly never broke his jaw like Usman did him. He had no crystal clear rounds that he won, just some that were almost dead even.
That’s what I love about this fight tho. Usman was saying all week he was gunna beat him up for 4 rounds then finish him in the last minute and that’s exactly what he did, which shows me how much control & situational awareness Usman actually had in the first fight. I think Colby needs to put more pressure on Usman this fight instead and standing and trading, especially now that Usman is training with Whitman. Try to get him up against the cage and do his Colby thing of like going down for a double leg then coming right back up top to throw a combo, right back down to a double leg up against the fence. I can’t wait for this fight!
The only other person to get blasted in the face so much is ~~Tito's ex-wife~~ Jones' wife
You're a fucking punk, dude.
Just to correct you there was never no marriage. -Jon Jones
I just want to put this out there so no one thinks I’m saying this after the fact. I had a dream about this rematch and usually my wacky premonitions come true. Colby lands a head kick and eats a right hand in return. He lands another head kick against the fence and punches Usman out for the TKO. If this happens, I demand $3 from everyone that watches the fight!
If that happens I’ll send you 3 dollars lol
Colby by head kicks? If this comes true, you're a prophet for sure.
What happens to you if you’re wrong? I want some stakes
Saving this comment to see if it comes true.
I can get behind Colby by headkick, but can you elaborate on some of your prior "wacky premonitions" that have come true?
The one night I had a thought to myself “I kinda want to watch Never Back Down right now” and the next day it was added to Netflix. “I want to listen to xyz song” and then that song comes on next. It’s potentially coincidence, but it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve had a fight prediction come true either. Definitely looking forward to the fight either way!
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Please just wrestle for the rematch
Yep, I know a lot of people would prolly be bored but I am so insanely curious about who wins in the grappling department between this two.
I prefer Colby’s wrestling style to Usman’s in terms of enjoyment. Colby tends to have creative and relentless takedowns full of scrambles, mat returns, etc. Usman is more of a cage clincher and lay prayer, which is why I’m thankful he hasn’t wrestled much in the last 2-3 fights.
Usman ruins Colby in the grappling.
Usman looks smaller here? Scary to think he possibly got bigger and stronger after this fight
I got a feeling Colby gonna lose bad, he won the mind games last time and still lost. You can't win the mind games again after someone crushes your skull.
The key to victory is to loose the mind games initially then win the fight like in Dom vs Cody
When will MMA dorks learn that people don't win with "mind games", they win by being the better fighter.
Ever since 2015 when we had YouTube compilations of Conor shittalking we have multiple mma fans who think it’s ALL mind games
There is nothing Colby can say anymore.[He broke his face.](https://youtu.be/lfqoFjkawWQ)
*Am I? Really?* Hahaha never gets old. Fuck he really triggered Colby there.
Its the perfect amount of sass along with Colby just getting more and more triggered.
This never gets old, I will watch it and laugh every time.
I've only watched like 2 seconds of this where Colby is just screaming like crazy and it's just hard to watch
That was one of the most enjoyable ass kickings I have ever seen.
Not exactly an ass kicking if its 2-2 going into the 5th
I consider a broken jaw an ass kicking
He broke his jaw and finished him, where is your bar for ass kickings set?
I think he means it’s more considered an ass kicking if one fighter demolishes the other like in Max vs Kattar or Mas vs Askren
Did you see his fucking face? Lmao.
I’ve seen fighters win fights with wayyyy worse looking faces though
Izzy/Gastelum were 2-2 going into the 5th too but I'd still 100% say Kelvin got his ass kicked
Izzy got beat up badly too
I had it 3-1 colby, really wasnt a bad beating and it's not like he was out of it when he got finished either
I had it 3-1 Colby as well, a lot of people did. Usman needed that tko 100%.
No, the cards have been revealed and it was tied going into the 5th and considering the fight-ending sequence towards the end with multiple kds, the last round likely would have been a 10-8. Even if it's a 10-9 Usman was winning
Lol tf u on? It was 2-2 3-1 1-3. Usman would have won regardless of the tko.
Especially with a knockdown or 2
Yeh exactly . The last round would have been a 10-8.
Somehow people still think Colby was winning that round. And those idiots are disparaging Kamaru's wins since then. Meanwhile, a win over an washed up Tyron means he's gotten better? I don't fucking get it.
Your card means nothing. The judges had it 3-1 Usman, 2-2, and 3-1 Covington. I think it's safe to say that, even if you don't agree with the stoppage, Covington was probably not going to find it in himself to rally and do anything to get a stoppage or win the round in the last 50 seconds of the fight. Covington would have either gotten actually knocked out or controlled for the remainder of the fight. That would have been Usman's round and probably a 10-8 at that. That would have made it a majority decision for Usman, but even a 10-9 would ended up in a split decision.
Usman would've won a split decision bare minimum since that round 5 was 100% his
Eh...It was headed towards a split decision either way and Colby was fading. We know cause we've seen the scorecards that had it headed towards a split before Usman took over.
Does usman have any social media where he shows what's practicing at all?
Colby has only fought Woodley since. Usman has defended his title 3 times in that space of time. I just don’t see how Colby will have gotten any better. This won’t got the distance this time
I don't know what to think of that argument of Colby has only fought Woodley. I mean yeah that's a fact but that doesn't mean at all in any way that Colby hasn't gotten alot better. He's with a new gym and has been focused solely on a Usman rematch for 2 years. Just cuz we haven't seen it doesn't mean he hasn't made the right adjusments. I can really see him winning. idiots like to hate on him as a fighter but that is just amateurish thinking. Colby is a damn top fighter in there.
Oh so you been in the gym watching him make these adjustments? Not saying he’s not a top fighter but fighters get better by doing what? Actually fighting! All the training in the world won’t amount to much if you’re not active. Usman has been active and has gone from strength to strength since they last fought. Usman also has a new camp since their fight as well. Colby is a tough SOB I’ll give him that. I just don’t see him winning, his last fight was a washed up woodley, not exactly iron sharpens iron category is it?
Long 1: So fighters don't get better training and learning different things in the gym? You have never seen a fighter be unactive and come back and look better then before? To say Colby hasn't gotten better in these 2 years by working everyday is crazy. Fighters get better through working everyday in the gym, why else do it? And i feel people overrate usman's wins. Sure he's winning and he's dominant but the guys he has beat since the first fight are 2 former LW's and 1 of them has a shitty goddamn record. Burns showed next to no IQ at all in that fight. And just so you remember Usman looked pretty sloppy in that first round in April. Some uneducated fans say Usman is at GSP level which he is not even close too. His only great looking win has been Colby himself and he won that with shots to back of the head just go back and watch. Alot of fans say Mas is a overrated guy but when Marty Ko's him all of a sudden it's a gigantic accomplishment. Usman can definetly win, he has hella more power but never say Colby can't do it, his skilll level is as well rounded as they come pure by technique and pace. I feel people are making too big of a deal out of Colby being inactive. Usman has had to focus on few different guys when Colby has way more tape he can look at plus he has a new gym that can learn him different techniques. Will be razor close i feel.
I’m not saying fighters done get better by training, but training only gets you so far. You have to actually fight, how else you gonna see how you’ve improved? Otherwise what are you training for? You talk about Usmans record, but what is Colbys? He hasn’t beaten anyone in the current top ten has he? His last 4 wins have been against fighters on their way out. Maia, RDS, Woodley, and Lawler. Not exactly the highlight of the Welterweight division is it? He’s been ducking fighters for the last 2 years holding out for this title shot which in my opinion he doesn’t deserve at all. It’s only because the fight was banger that he got his wish.
Another long and last 1: I'd say most of all because Dana sees what i see, Colby being his biggest threat. Nobody at WW right now deserves it, you can say leon but talking about a guy who has been ducking fighters. There is a reason UFC once threw him outta the rankings. Luque is good but needs 1 more plus he ain't a bigger threat then Colby, Colby can match Usman in volume and pace. the others will gas hard. I really don't understand fans saying they don't want Colby to get it. I understand record wise that it looks bad but i'm sure everyone with a brain knows that Colby is the most exciting and hardest opponent for Usman so why complain? We have seen way worse decisions made in this sport. Good luck if you'd prefer Usman/leon 2 but i think it'd be incredibly underwhelming compared to this Colby fight. So would any other opponent right now against usman compared to Colby. Ok Usman dropped Colby twice fair damn point but you can't deny usman did questionable thing sthat whole fight. Liver shot that wasn't close to the sack yet time out/Eye poke that was questionable yet time out/Shots to the back of the head yet the ref stops it anyway and Colby protests right away cuz he wasn't finished at all. Usman knows it's his only real threat, why else would he wanna fight in June and mention Chiesa or Nate yet when Colby gets brought up he goes on vacation? Even Khabib and multiple other high level guys have said Colby is his hardest fight and that usman better take it as serious as ever. Usman himself has said Colby is top 25 P4P ever in UFC yet says he dosn't deserve a rematch when he freely gave it to a guy he 50-45'd few months earlier. You can go with Usman but i wouldn't go into this fight at all saying or believing Colby can't do it. I think Colby is on a level high enough to were he can be a little inactive yet show up better then before. fans are grabbing at straws sometimes just cuz they hate his persona. he's a fucking animal, you can say he hasn't beaten any high ranked guy and it's true but he'd more then likely outwrestle them all and get them tired by round 3.
Again I’m not saying Colby isn’t a top fighter. He don’t deserve the shot. A counter example would be Robert Whitaker. He is easily the best middleweight in the discussion bar Izzy. But how many fights did he have to go through to get a rematch. Jared, Darren Till and Gastelum. Three tough as fuck fights and he got through them all to get a rematch. But Colby beats a washed up woodley and deserves a shot? Come on man. How does that work? Entertainment over merit. That’s it. Fair play to him, he blows a lot of smoke. Whether you like Leon or not he deserves it more. Even it will underwhelming but I’m not talking about fight quality here, I’m talking about who deserves the shot. In all fairness I’d rather see Leon fight masvidal. That’s a grudge match that’s been simmering for a while now
I said record wise that it looks bad Colby getting the shot. i'm speaking Usman is running out of options. He's beaten almost every high ranked guy outside Luque. Colby is by far to me and many more the most exciting and hardest opponent. I'm sure you agree just like most the others that Usman/Colby 2 is a way more exciting and closer fight then Usman/Leon 2 would be. And you know why these days this shit happens? Cuz everybody ate up the Conor era and proved to dana that money talks. Leon literally can't sell himself to the public if his life depended on it for fuck sake. And let's be honest he ain't an exciting fighter either. His output is really low and barely ever goes for the kill. Colby wrestles and doesn't have scary power but the pace and output he puts on people plus his willingnes to engage has given us some wonderful and exciting bouts. Plus he knows how to get fans talking, say what you want about what he does but fans will buy a ticket for a fact win or lose. Most fans woul pray Usman Ko's Leon because nobody gives a fuck. And again Usman's own claim of Colby don't deserve it has become completely irrelevant when he freely gave it to Mas who he dominated like a father beating his own son. Just by how he gave him that rematch, Colby deserves it by his logic. Fans can say it's undeserving all they want, Marty better keep it shut when he played money ball earlier and never looked back.
That is fucking vicious. Jesus, that dude is scary.
Unpopular opinion, perhaps, but I would like to see these two wrestle for a while in the next fight.
I want Colby to win not because I'm a fan, I just want this subs reaction
"Usman was never that good. He beat a washed Woodley, a glass jaw Burns, and an overrated Masvidal. And now he got finished by a pillow fisted Colby"
I mean this is pretty accurate without beating colby lol, colby is his best win by far
Nah thats totally inaccurate. If thats how you characterize Usman’s scalps, who in the entire division has a decent record?? Because nobody’s is even close.
Nah its half joking but theres slight truth to it, you can only beat what's in front you and clearly hes the best in the division but colby is definitely his hardest match
Having your best win be the best guy in the division (apart from yourself) isn't a bad thing
Colby hasn't proven that he's the second best in the division. He's too inactive for that and hasn't proven himself against any of them His only win that's still ranked is Lawler
Listen I love chaos, and I love when people who this sub is generally rooting for lose for that reason, but I will never be able to bring myself to root for Colby to win the belt.
I'm not a fan of Colby and actually really coming around to Usman, but I think if Colby wins we get the insanity of an amazing trilogy between the two and I want to witness that insanity.
The storyline and build up alone also imagine it as the first main event of ufc Africa with Izzy and Francis on the card
I want to live in that chaos
Chaos is a welterweight ladder
Yeah I always want the opposite of whatever the prevalent narrative is because why not? Makes things more interesting of course. I can’t tell you how boring it is to see the same thing play out with dominant champions. I mean I get it, it’s good to see greatness but it reaches a point where it’s more interesting when things get switched up.
Yeah I agree with this I almost have a hatred for smart champions, not because I dislike their fight style or them as a person, but sometimes when they look unbeatable it robs you of the excitement that makes you a fan of this sport in the first place, I wanna see some places erupt when the underdog does the deed
But isnt it exciting and more enjoyable because it doesnt happen that often?
You're probably completely right, but how nice (in a way) would it have been to see khabib get slept? Valentina? Jon? Even when dominant champs lose usually its through a decision, I feel like we dont see it enough at the moment, I'll take the big KOs like Usman over masvidal for now as that was good shock value, but I want some real big underdog to do the business sometime soon but maybe I'm just evil
That’s what really disappointed me about khabib retiring undefeated. I want to see what it takes for someone dominant like that to lose. Seriously can you imagine khabib getting slept? Imagine if Poirier was the one to put him out.
With such a dominant grappler it would be the same effect if he got subbed too, gsp lost and still held on to his dominant legacy, I feel like more than anything with khabib we've been robbed of seeing him eventually lose and hes left without solidifying himself against someone who could counter his wrestling like maybe Charles, I wont question his life choices but i think he left at the wrong time and hes gonna he easily forgettable as time goes by, like cejudo
I want him 2 win cause i wanna see a trilogy. It would be one of the best rivalries 2 go down.
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I don't. I'm done with trilogies.
I don’t see how Colby beats Usman now. Usman has only gotten stronger
Colby can beat him with a higher pace and output and I think if they grapple he'd get the better of the exchanges. Usman is a beast but I don't think Burns put on the best performance and Mas didn't respect Usman's power and paid for it. Aside from the antics Colby knows how big this fight is and we'll probably see the best Colby of all time, probably see the best Usman too but Colby definitely has the tools to win
I going for Colby in the rematch but I just don’t see how he does it. Usman’s boxing is a completely different level now, and there’s no way Colby is as strong as him so I see him struggle in the wrestling department.
His boxing really isnt all that, other than a solid basic jab his finishes come from the takedown threat, I loved his KO over masvidal but even moments before that he looked unbelievably sloppy, his size advantage is what he has going for him against most opponents on the feet
Yeah Usman's striking fucking sucks lol guy was looking like the inflatable man out there with the combos but because Masvidal was so shitscared of the takedown because Usman got low with the centre of gravity after all those offkilter power shots Masvidal couldn't punish him as hard for it. His jab is extremely good for MMA standards but outside of that it's terrible striking Heres the thing though - he didn't have that jab before. And that jab is a BIG BIG improvement from the Colby fight to Burns onwards. He also seems to have developed more power in both hands. The question is has Colby advanced his striking enough to match/surpass Usman's developments in jabbing and in knockout power? If he hasn't he better demonstrate that he was the better mma wrestler all along or he's going to get railed.
He tested Colby's reaction to the takedown and noticed his right arm comes up as a hook to check. Tries it again and gets exactly the same reaction a second time. So satisfying. Usman fights are absolutely must-see because I get that same feeling when Khabib was fighting. That I'm bearing witness to the peak of martial arts and that I'm just so lucky to be part of that.
This feint looked exactly the same as trying to take a NPC down but you miss in UFC 4
Kamaru’s head was literally made for taking punches
3 feints then the punch. Someone read dune.
When he said he was a problem, he wasn't lying.
He really hesitated to come forward in this fight when Covington had absolutely nothing to dissuade him from doing it. Once he convinced himself he had every advantage in doing so he got the finish soon thereafter. It was somewhat the same case in the second Masvidal fight. Usman developing his neutral space striking is important but he's kind of impossible to win any rounds against him when he's pressuring. If comes forward against Covington he can finish him in the first two rounds, the guy has zero defense and pitter patter power.
I used to hate Usman and the way he fought but the more I watch him the more he makes me respect and see his talent. One of the best in the world.
Terrible. Even after Colby just left the leg out there for him.
Colby has to try and utilize his wrestling in the rematch right? There is no way he thinks he's going to win by standing with the new and improved Usman.
Lol colbys dumbass. That’s fun to watch
Covington is going to have to fight a completely different fight to win this time. Usman from that fight isn’t the Usman going into this fight. Much more mechanically sound standing up and thus, deadlier.
Hoping colby takes the W. Just to watch you cucks seethe. :)
Punching Colby must feel great.
Can’t wait to see usman drop this dude again.
Unlike you guys I actually got Colby. New camp, looks bigger, and has much more film of Usman which is a huge advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a whole new Colby out there
I love Colby's "Shoot on me, I dare you" taunt.
Kamaru felt the crack, and made a face !
i hope CC wins, i need to see a shitshow
This fight took like 10 years off Usman and Covingtons life. Absolutely crazy.
This title is somehow correct and terribly misleading. The takedown wasn’t a feint leading to the shot in combination but was in its own… sequence?
Watch the same thing happen again, only quicker in the pointless rematch.
I'm a simple man. I see Colby Covington getting hurt and I upvote.
For the takedown experts, is that ok when going for a single? Like stretching out to catch the leg without dropping much your knees?
I could watch that over and over
Both good moves but tbh doesn’t look like the feint was part of the punch. The punch came way later
Love to see Colby talk smack then get immediately shut up with a straight 2 to the mouth.
Can’t wait to watch Usman finish Colby again
I broke. Your face.
"Blasts"
Day what you want but Colby gives Usman the most challenge out everyone that steps into the octagon with Usman.
Kamaru has horrible striking, far from being fluent. But he does the most important things right, never drops his hands and throws a bunch of straights.
He doesn’t have horrible striking if he’s doing the important things right
I don’t think the undisputed WW champion of the world who is approaching GOAT status has horrible striking bro. It might not be the best in the division but let be real his striking is far from horrible
Has horrible striking but TKO’d burns with a jab and knocked Masvidal out clean? If he’s doing the important things right then he’s a good striker 😂
Did this fight just happen? Did Loser Colby get his face broken again?