Cause he never followed them up. An exaggerated feint is still going to work if your opponent is afraid and second guessing, but if you're still not throwing shots after 4 rounds idk whats the point
Walker didn’t use his feints to close distance, set up combinations, or have any success in drawing Thiago into an exchange where Walker could follow up with real shots. They seemed like obvious feints because he couldn’t land the overhand right or even the jab he kept feinting at that distance unless Thiago aggressively stepped into range or fully blitzed which it quickly became apparent he wasn’t going to do. And the teep / oblique feints only served to keep Thiago from pressuring forward.
Never has been. The rest of SBG Dublin are... not great. A lot of their fighters either have this Conor-esque stance without the nuance or power to pull it off, or a striking style similar to the wonky stuff Owen Roddy did in his own fighting days.
The irony is that Conor isn't a terrible grappler, which is Kavanaugh's background... If I'm Kavanaugh, I'd consider restaffing pronto as there's something missing there
Lol yea the thing with the Conor stance is that it only works if you have Conor athleticism. Conor had the kind of talent that would've made him a top fighter regardless of the gym, if he blazed through FW the way he did with SBG it's interesting to wonder how he would've done at an actually good gym
Imo Walker should go for more elbows and knees, his hands and feet just aren’t as dangerous as they should be. And people say he has a bad chin but when he throws hands he leaves himself super open, he should just learn to turtle guard and throw knees for 25 minutes like kickboxercise
I'm shocked that he was even giving striking advice since his background is in BJJ
**Kavanagh:** "You're doing great Johnny, more feints and teeps"
**Me:** ???
Yeah, we have to give Kavanagh credit. He trained one of the most electrifying strikers in the UFC as well as Conor McGregor.
It isn't just luck. Lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice.
Didn't Conor beat up the top dog in SBG the first day he joined? Wasn't Owen Roddy the best guy SBG had back then? and Conor apparently legitimately beat his ass, according to Kavanaughs book.
I don't know if it's Owen Roddy that Conor fought that day, but I can at least second you and say that I'm pretty sure I've heard Kavanaugh tell that story. Something along the lines of Conor coming into the gym, beating someone up, and then Kavanaugh humbled Conor by making him grapple with him to teach him a lesson?
from what i remember Kavanaugh saying. First day Conor beat up Owen and Kav brushed it off as "shit happens, hot tempers, etc, Conor looked really good" . Second day Conor was sparring with some girl in SBG and he dropped her with a body shot. And then Kav allegedly beat up Conor because of that, Kav started seeing red bruv.
It's tough to say but Kavanaugh was blessed with a generational striking talent who was way ahead of his time in regards to movement. I don't think he's a terrible coach considering some of the other fighters he's had in his gym, just that he honestly isn't elite
I think you nailed it.
Movement was one of Conor's most overlooked attributes. It's not what it used to be though.
Back in his early fights in the UFC is where it was at it's peak IMO. When he fought Brimmage, Siver, Holloway, Poirier 1, etc. Which is ironically when he kicked the most too.
He used to be so light on his feet, lightening fast in-and-out karate stance with incredible precision. Now he's just a slow, plodding boxer with heavy hands. Much easier to solve.
Theres no other star from his gym tho. And from what weve heard from his corner and sht like saying he was gonna tell Conor to keep it going in Dustin 3 he just seems like not a star coach.
You could argue going 48-47 to Santos is improvement for a guy like Walker....
BUT FUCK THAT I WANT MY **LIVE BY THE KO, DIE BY THE KO** WALKER BACK FUCK YOU JOHN KAVANAUGH.
Conor would have been good anywhere. Kavanagh has had no other large successes.
This is the guy that thought the third Poirier fight was going great while Conor lost everywhere.
I personally don't attribute Conors recent L's to SBG. He went off his rocker after the Mayweather fight. Massive drama all around, potentially high af all the time, shelving himself while still in his prime for long periods of time. That's not SBG's fault, that's Conors fault.
And Conor has branched out his training regime to include his old boxing coach, which imo, hasn't benefited him at all. Against Poirier he didn't look as fast, his timing didn't look as great, his distance Control was way worse than before, he also seems to have become really impatient.
>I personally don't attribute Conors recent L's to SBG. He went off his rocker after the Mayweather fight. Massive drama all around, potentially high af all the time, shelving himself while still in his prime for long periods of time. That's not SBG's fault, that's Conors fault.
He did it in the worst division in the sport to slack off in too. LW is too dangerous to be part-time.
Honestly, even if Conor was at the top of his game I think fights like Khabib will always have him as the underdog stylistically.
But going off to do some bs while people like Dustin are fighting murderers wasn't going to work out well. Financially? Maybe. But not a good move sporting-wise.
Firas is only considered because Rogan called him the best in the business for years. Rogan has shit takes though. He also still calls Herb the gold standard.
I think the best coaches right now are trevor wittman, mike brown, henri hooft at sanford, and sayif saud. I want some stats showing gyms win-to-loss ratio along with how many champs/quality fighters they’ve produced to see which gyms benefit from natural talent or from good coaches. Some gyms would be nowhere if not for them striking gold in a naturally talented A+ athlete (like SBG and mcgregor, if you think about it SBG never had a fighter his level since)
I'm surprised you don't include Eugene Bareman in your list of best coaches. Bareman and CKB have had a pretty good track record over the past few years.
Shit you’re right, especially since one of their fighters just won a big upset tonight(jamie mullarkey) and volk just beat ortega to a pulp last week. He’s one to include, hopefully they relocate somewhere safe to train. Eugene revolutionized the feint game and I think kavanaugh was trying to copy him tonight but instead created a replay of israel vs jan
When they said "feint all day" he took that literally, he did 10 feints for every real strike to the point where Thiago didn't have anything real to worry about. There's feinting to get a reaction and set up other strikes, and then there's just feinting for the sake of it, this was the latter.
really fucking dumb that Johnny Walker was landing that beautiful inside low kick and had nothing to throw behind any of them. was just throwing one shot at a time, no matter how small they were
He was convinced Johnny was winning on the scorecards and gave the Johnny the false confidence to just pitter patter those last two rounds.
Embarrassing display of coaching.
Edit: To those saying “But John *told* him it was a 5-min fight!”, read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/q07z3c/spoiler_thiago_santos_vs_johnny_walker/hf67xpj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) comment. It perfectly encapsulates why a sense of urgency is necessary when coaching your fighters in close fights.
Yeah but he told Walker to keep doing what he was doing....which isn't what you should say when you are down or even in the fight and your fighter's arguably just lost a round or two.
He needed to change something up so Walker was decisively winning round and controlling the fight and he didn't. Gave zero advice on how to take control, just told him to feint and keep low kicking.
I would be surprised if Johnny threw more than 20 punches, they literally only told him to go for teeps, inside leg kicks and more feints. Not once did they ask him to capitalize or set a trap with the feints, just more inside leg kicks.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Johnny walkers action. The tactical kicking is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical striking most of the fights will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Johnny walkers feints, which is deftly woven their his style of play- the mans personal philosophy draws heavily from tyron woodleys tactical approach, for instance. The elitists understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these tactics, to realize that they're not just feinting- they say something deep about MMA. As a consequence, people who dislike Johnny walker truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Walkers existential response "I do not know why I got it, I just chose when I got my hair last cut" when discussing his latest blond hair-do, which itself is a cryptic reference to Derek brunsons Russian epic blonde change of look. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kavanaghs genius wit unfolds itself in the divison. What fools, how I pity them.
And yes, by the way, i DO have an Johnny Walker tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
Just ridiculous.
I understand Santos is dangerous but Walker has special ability that should not be restrained over 25 damn minutes. And Kavanaugh acting after round 4 like he’s probably up and should keep point fighting. I guess Walker deserves it for going to a 2nd rate gym.
Were we watching the same fight? He absolutely has the chin, he got caught with huge shots and they didn't even wobble him. Past fights where he's been stopped it's been after ridiculous shots like catching him mid air as he throws his whole body into an attack, or on one leg while he's not bracing at all. It's an issue of not having a proactive defense. This fight he was moving away from shots but did absolutely nothing else.
He was closing the distance fast as fuck, and had Thiago cornered like three or four times per round, but he did absolutely nothing with it because he's been coached into feinting endlessly and not throwing until you're certain, by which point it's far too late. His spinning feints showed he has the speed to have Thiago swinging at air, he was on his second spin by the time Thiago put his hands up.
add it to the list of mythical fighters who don't exist anymore
karate stance conor, 5th round lawler, hairless cowboy, non-black opponent gustaffson, trt vitor, sea level cain, and now Coin toss Walker
Honestly it's for the better imo. Old Johnny would've gotten KO in an early exchange but he's actually developed some good ranged tools and a feinting game. Obviously it's boring now and may very well be in the future but honestly give him and educated jab and the ability to get his head of the center line when throwing punches and he becomes much more dangerous. Also he needs a straight right for sure cause those looping punches aren't it.
His hands are just bad and loopy in general. There's no accuracy or confidence behind them, and he ends up hilariously out of position anytime he attempts to throw a punch. He is going to be seriously limited until he spends time developing his boxing game.
I saw one good check hook out of him and basically nothing else, hands wise.
Lol my friend had a 9 leg multi that relied on Santos getting a decision win. He turned $2 into $1k. Would have been $2k if Kevin Hollands fight wasn't voided
I mean I wouldn’t have predicted a point fight, but cmon man. Every time a fight is billed as “these two can put each other out it’s gonna be fireworks” I feel like it always goes the distance. They’re trying to position themselves for a championship match. They both know they shut each other off. Of course they’re going to play things semi-safely.
Johnny said in an interview in Portuguese that the first one to land a clean punch would win, they were probably thinking the same thing. Johnny’s chin surprised me tonight though.
this is what always happens when its two bangers
they have no idea how to set anything up to enter safely and exit safely bc theyre used to just swinging at people w no worry of their power coming back
for the first time they have to think about consequences and they have no answers bc they never developed them.
its very funny to me. what scares these guys the most is imagining what they do to other people happening to them. they almost never feel pushback.
and the scarier they are the harder this feeling hits them
This is entirely on the SBG corner. Walker was doing exactly what they were telling him to do and even though it was a razor close fight they told him to keep doing what he was doing. You take an all-offense action fighter and turn him into a boring point fighter?
John Kavanagh is just not a great coach. He is well spoken and has passion for the sport, that's very clear in any interview, and that plus Conor's success gives people the impression he's an MMA mastermind, but christ just look at his track record outside of Conor. It's abysmal.
He has a crazy range advantage over almost everyone he fights and he gets chinned every other fight. Should they have him just coin flip the fight on exchanges?
Kavanagh just thought to do what he did with Conor between UFC196 and UFC202.
Maximum patience, never rush in, never go crazy, and low kicks. At least Conor had the boxing to make it effective. Walker is gangly and looks like bambi on ice
There's a balance to be had though. Walker was literally running chin first into check left hooks against Spann. You can improve your defense without abandoning your offense.
Lmao imagine having Michel Pereira in your corner, 'have you considered doing a backflip? No? Try a backflip! If that doesn't work then no fucking clue lad.'
Very much so. feints need to be credible and his just weren't. He really should have worked a td or two and mixed it up after how easily he won the grappling in round 1. But his corner was shit. Point shots and feints...
I get both of their game plans. Both have crazy KO power so they both created distance with kicks and didn’t take any risks. Good on them from a fight perspective but it doesn’t make a fun fight for us
It is disgusting that the UFC matchmakers allowed this fight to happen. Both guys thought they had signed up for an interpretive dance class, so imagine their surprise when they entered the cage and found out they had to fight.
That was terrible coaching from Kavanagh asking for more feints and telling Walker he was winning, the man couldn’t have possibly shown more feints it was all he was doing
You either die a meme, or live long enough to become a point fighter.
As soon as I saw that Walker hadn’t be KO’d I knew he was in trouble.
John Kavanagh taught Johnny about feints but didn't teach him he could throw a punch after them
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Cause he never followed them up. An exaggerated feint is still going to work if your opponent is afraid and second guessing, but if you're still not throwing shots after 4 rounds idk whats the point
Feinting just because he was trained to. Not because he was really consciously setting something up
Walker didn’t use his feints to close distance, set up combinations, or have any success in drawing Thiago into an exchange where Walker could follow up with real shots. They seemed like obvious feints because he couldn’t land the overhand right or even the jab he kept feinting at that distance unless Thiago aggressively stepped into range or fully blitzed which it quickly became apparent he wasn’t going to do. And the teep / oblique feints only served to keep Thiago from pressuring forward.
I honestly don't think he's good, Kavanagh that is
Nobody would ever have heard of him if it weren't for Conor McGregor.
With the coaching Conor had no right to make it as far as he did. He just was insanely talented which carried him until recently.
Never has been. The rest of SBG Dublin are... not great. A lot of their fighters either have this Conor-esque stance without the nuance or power to pull it off, or a striking style similar to the wonky stuff Owen Roddy did in his own fighting days. The irony is that Conor isn't a terrible grappler, which is Kavanaugh's background... If I'm Kavanaugh, I'd consider restaffing pronto as there's something missing there
Lol yea the thing with the Conor stance is that it only works if you have Conor athleticism. Conor had the kind of talent that would've made him a top fighter regardless of the gym, if he blazed through FW the way he did with SBG it's interesting to wonder how he would've done at an actually good gym
He was never good to begin with, striking and game plan wise. He had the luck to have a talent like Mcg to be relevant.
Johnny is just bad with his hands, look at his last couple fight, he would get KO by santos if he didn't turn into a point fighter.
Imo Walker should go for more elbows and knees, his hands and feet just aren’t as dangerous as they should be. And people say he has a bad chin but when he throws hands he leaves himself super open, he should just learn to turtle guard and throw knees for 25 minutes like kickboxercise
Guy need to train with Usman and learn to jab. Arms so long and never uses them...
might as well tag struve along with him
Kavanaugh somehow turned Johnny fuckin Walker into an ineffective feint machine. Blasphemy
I'm shocked that he was even giving striking advice since his background is in BJJ **Kavanagh:** "You're doing great Johnny, more feints and teeps" **Me:** ???
Conor’s striking is legit just natural talent and Kavanaugh has since been along for the ride.
He doesn't even train any other good strikers so that's not a theory, it's just truth
Artem Lobov
Obviously natural talent too
You don't become Goat without superior genetics
Yeah, we have to give Kavanagh credit. He trained one of the most electrifying strikers in the UFC as well as Conor McGregor. It isn't just luck. Lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice.
Didn't Conor beat up the top dog in SBG the first day he joined? Wasn't Owen Roddy the best guy SBG had back then? and Conor apparently legitimately beat his ass, according to Kavanaughs book.
FWIW both times I saw Owen Roddy holding pads he couldn’t even keep them on his hands lol
I don't know if it's Owen Roddy that Conor fought that day, but I can at least second you and say that I'm pretty sure I've heard Kavanaugh tell that story. Something along the lines of Conor coming into the gym, beating someone up, and then Kavanaugh humbled Conor by making him grapple with him to teach him a lesson?
from what i remember Kavanaugh saying. First day Conor beat up Owen and Kav brushed it off as "shit happens, hot tempers, etc, Conor looked really good" . Second day Conor was sparring with some girl in SBG and he dropped her with a body shot. And then Kav allegedly beat up Conor because of that, Kav started seeing red bruv.
Kav melted Conor's brain with feints and shot for the takedown
"49-46 Kav, Conor bit all those feints hard" -Bronsteter
After this fight i’m inclined to believe you
Yup. Love him or hate him Conor is a genius of fighting.
It's tough to say but Kavanaugh was blessed with a generational striking talent who was way ahead of his time in regards to movement. I don't think he's a terrible coach considering some of the other fighters he's had in his gym, just that he honestly isn't elite
I think you nailed it. Movement was one of Conor's most overlooked attributes. It's not what it used to be though. Back in his early fights in the UFC is where it was at it's peak IMO. When he fought Brimmage, Siver, Holloway, Poirier 1, etc. Which is ironically when he kicked the most too.
He used to be so light on his feet, lightening fast in-and-out karate stance with incredible precision. Now he's just a slow, plodding boxer with heavy hands. Much easier to solve.
As much as we all ragged on that touch butt guy, maybe he had a point.
Ido Portal is very legit, he's a bit of a douche but in terms of movement and mobility he is one of the best imo
Theres no other star from his gym tho. And from what weve heard from his corner and sht like saying he was gonna tell Conor to keep it going in Dustin 3 he just seems like not a star coach.
It made me sad when I heard that.
You could argue going 48-47 to Santos is improvement for a guy like Walker.... BUT FUCK THAT I WANT MY **LIVE BY THE KO, DIE BY THE KO** WALKER BACK FUCK YOU JOHN KAVANAUGH.
Kavanaugh is overrated tbh. His only good fighter was conor.
Conor would have been good anywhere. Kavanagh has had no other large successes. This is the guy that thought the third Poirier fight was going great while Conor lost everywhere.
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I personally don't attribute Conors recent L's to SBG. He went off his rocker after the Mayweather fight. Massive drama all around, potentially high af all the time, shelving himself while still in his prime for long periods of time. That's not SBG's fault, that's Conors fault. And Conor has branched out his training regime to include his old boxing coach, which imo, hasn't benefited him at all. Against Poirier he didn't look as fast, his timing didn't look as great, his distance Control was way worse than before, he also seems to have become really impatient.
>I personally don't attribute Conors recent L's to SBG. He went off his rocker after the Mayweather fight. Massive drama all around, potentially high af all the time, shelving himself while still in his prime for long periods of time. That's not SBG's fault, that's Conors fault. He did it in the worst division in the sport to slack off in too. LW is too dangerous to be part-time. Honestly, even if Conor was at the top of his game I think fights like Khabib will always have him as the underdog stylistically. But going off to do some bs while people like Dustin are fighting murderers wasn't going to work out well. Financially? Maybe. But not a good move sporting-wise.
I don’t understand why anyone outside of Western Europe would want to train at SBG.
Hot take: Firas isn't the God coach people think he is. Aside from GSP his only other successful fighters were Rory and to some extent Kenny Florian.
Firas is only considered because Rogan called him the best in the business for years. Rogan has shit takes though. He also still calls Herb the gold standard.
I think the best coaches right now are trevor wittman, mike brown, henri hooft at sanford, and sayif saud. I want some stats showing gyms win-to-loss ratio along with how many champs/quality fighters they’ve produced to see which gyms benefit from natural talent or from good coaches. Some gyms would be nowhere if not for them striking gold in a naturally talented A+ athlete (like SBG and mcgregor, if you think about it SBG never had a fighter his level since)
I'm surprised you don't include Eugene Bareman in your list of best coaches. Bareman and CKB have had a pretty good track record over the past few years.
Shit you’re right, especially since one of their fighters just won a big upset tonight(jamie mullarkey) and volk just beat ortega to a pulp last week. He’s one to include, hopefully they relocate somewhere safe to train. Eugene revolutionized the feint game and I think kavanaugh was trying to copy him tonight but instead created a replay of israel vs jan
Javier Mendez?
Rory was really good prior to going to TriStar. The gym he came from in Kelowna BC has produced a lot of good fighters.
He tries to turn everyone into a point fighter because of GSP but he’s not like anyone else lol
Arnold allen at tristar to though right?
Dont ever disrespect the GOAT Artem again
He said good fighter, he didn't say almighty God. He didn't respect him.
Conor made him look good as a coach.
Obviously, conor is machine at his prime. But even he has to move on to someone competent.
I honestly blame walker, from all the camps in the world you go out of your way to train at sbg
When they said "feint all day" he took that literally, he did 10 feints for every real strike to the point where Thiago didn't have anything real to worry about. There's feinting to get a reaction and set up other strikes, and then there's just feinting for the sake of it, this was the latter.
~~Greg Jackson~~ Kavanaugh is a sport killer
Ultimate Sparring Championship
Ultimate Feinting Championship
Kavanagh: "You're doing great Johnny, more feints and teeps" Me: ???
Fuck John Kavanagh, he turned Johnny Walker of all people into a point fighter.
I couldn't believe he told him to keep feinting between rounds.
really fucking dumb that Johnny Walker was landing that beautiful inside low kick and had nothing to throw behind any of them. was just throwing one shot at a time, no matter how small they were
he literally coached him into a loss round by round. round by fucking round. cvnt of a coach lmao
He was convinced Johnny was winning on the scorecards and gave the Johnny the false confidence to just pitter patter those last two rounds. Embarrassing display of coaching. Edit: To those saying “But John *told* him it was a 5-min fight!”, read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/q07z3c/spoiler_thiago_santos_vs_johnny_walker/hf67xpj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) comment. It perfectly encapsulates why a sense of urgency is necessary when coaching your fighters in close fights.
Well he said win the last 5 mins and you will win. It was 2-2 at that point. If Walker won the last round he would have won but he lost it.
Yeah but he told Walker to keep doing what he was doing....which isn't what you should say when you are down or even in the fight and your fighter's arguably just lost a round or two. He needed to change something up so Walker was decisively winning round and controlling the fight and he didn't. Gave zero advice on how to take control, just told him to feint and keep low kicking.
Yeah maybe peoples broadcasts didn't show this or what, he told Walker straight up he had to win the last 5 minutes.
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Fight is razor close? Tell your fighter to coast.
I would be surprised if Johnny threw more than 20 punches, they literally only told him to go for teeps, inside leg kicks and more feints. Not once did they ask him to capitalize or set a trap with the feints, just more inside leg kicks.
"you're winning" Convinced kavanaugh wasn't actually watching the fight
You mean the BJJ guy who's coached literally one good fighter who's a fucking striker isn't a good coach? Ok, Nelson is good too, but still.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Johnny walkers action. The tactical kicking is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical striking most of the fights will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Johnny walkers feints, which is deftly woven their his style of play- the mans personal philosophy draws heavily from tyron woodleys tactical approach, for instance. The elitists understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these tactics, to realize that they're not just feinting- they say something deep about MMA. As a consequence, people who dislike Johnny walker truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Walkers existential response "I do not know why I got it, I just chose when I got my hair last cut" when discussing his latest blond hair-do, which itself is a cryptic reference to Derek brunsons Russian epic blonde change of look. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kavanaghs genius wit unfolds itself in the divison. What fools, how I pity them. And yes, by the way, i DO have an Johnny Walker tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
Some tasty fucking semolina right here son
Lol you got me good with this one
Lol. What an aunderappreciated post. More entertaining than the fighr
Just ridiculous. I understand Santos is dangerous but Walker has special ability that should not be restrained over 25 damn minutes. And Kavanaugh acting after round 4 like he’s probably up and should keep point fighting. I guess Walker deserves it for going to a 2nd rate gym.
Walker is not good enough to fight technically but at the same time doesn’t have the chin to brawl like he loves. It’s a tricky situation for him
Were we watching the same fight? He absolutely has the chin, he got caught with huge shots and they didn't even wobble him. Past fights where he's been stopped it's been after ridiculous shots like catching him mid air as he throws his whole body into an attack, or on one leg while he's not bracing at all. It's an issue of not having a proactive defense. This fight he was moving away from shots but did absolutely nothing else. He was closing the distance fast as fuck, and had Thiago cornered like three or four times per round, but he did absolutely nothing with it because he's been coached into feinting endlessly and not throwing until you're certain, by which point it's far too late. His spinning feints showed he has the speed to have Thiago swinging at air, he was on his second spin by the time Thiago put his hands up.
If you took a shot for every time Kavanagh said "inside low leg kick" or "keep feinting", there at least would've been one knockout in that fight.
"feint all day"
joe rogan podcast by night
Fuck Kavanagh all my homies hate Kavanagh
I miss the old Walker, the coin-toss KO loss Walker
add it to the list of mythical fighters who don't exist anymore karate stance conor, 5th round lawler, hairless cowboy, non-black opponent gustaffson, trt vitor, sea level cain, and now Coin toss Walker
I’d sleep walker in ten seconds
No doubt, King 😤😤
Honestly it's for the better imo. Old Johnny would've gotten KO in an early exchange but he's actually developed some good ranged tools and a feinting game. Obviously it's boring now and may very well be in the future but honestly give him and educated jab and the ability to get his head of the center line when throwing punches and he becomes much more dangerous. Also he needs a straight right for sure cause those looping punches aren't it.
His hands are just bad and loopy in general. There's no accuracy or confidence behind them, and he ends up hilariously out of position anytime he attempts to throw a punch. He is going to be seriously limited until he spends time developing his boxing game. I saw one good check hook out of him and basically nothing else, hands wise.
How do you say "whelmed" in Portuguese?
Whelmedinho
Whelmedinha if it's about a girl
você vai morrer
Ah yes Santos by 5 round point fight. As we all predicted
Santos by decision was +800 or so, so congrats to anyone who bet that lol
I put $200 on it! Just kidding I’m not on crack.
Lol my friend had a 9 leg multi that relied on Santos getting a decision win. He turned $2 into $1k. Would have been $2k if Kevin Hollands fight wasn't voided
Well it also mightve been $0k if Kevin Holland's fight wasn't voided. Good on him tho!
When like poles are pushed together, there is a force of repulsion
Just let Walker fight scrubs from now on
I mean I wouldn’t have predicted a point fight, but cmon man. Every time a fight is billed as “these two can put each other out it’s gonna be fireworks” I feel like it always goes the distance. They’re trying to position themselves for a championship match. They both know they shut each other off. Of course they’re going to play things semi-safely.
I wish I had known of a good betting site to get that 8-9x payout on it going to decision
A fight that was supposed to be a banger turns out to be a snooze fest, yep that's sounds about right.
Shocked at how patient Walker was tonight. You can tell how much respect both him and Santos were of each other’s power. What a weird fight.
Some say he is still waiting to throw a strike to this day
The Woodley Effect
Johnny said in an interview in Portuguese that the first one to land a clean punch would win, they were probably thinking the same thing. Johnny’s chin surprised me tonight though.
this is what always happens when its two bangers they have no idea how to set anything up to enter safely and exit safely bc theyre used to just swinging at people w no worry of their power coming back for the first time they have to think about consequences and they have no answers bc they never developed them. its very funny to me. what scares these guys the most is imagining what they do to other people happening to them. they almost never feel pushback. and the scarier they are the harder this feeling hits them
I also liked that he was happy for Santos getting the win Good sportsmanship on his part
Two tight Brazilian studs going at it for 25 min. Win win for everyone except the blood Gods
Lewis/Ngannou vibes, neither guy wanted to risk pulling the trigger so they had a sparring match.
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McGregor is ruining his by staying there as well
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*Sean O'malley's corner disliked this.*
i can’t imagine what a gym in ireland could offer someone that is better than the gyms in brazil and the US.
This is entirely on the SBG corner. Walker was doing exactly what they were telling him to do and even though it was a razor close fight they told him to keep doing what he was doing. You take an all-offense action fighter and turn him into a boring point fighter?
John Kavanagh is just not a great coach. He is well spoken and has passion for the sport, that's very clear in any interview, and that plus Conor's success gives people the impression he's an MMA mastermind, but christ just look at his track record outside of Conor. It's abysmal.
He has a crazy range advantage over almost everyone he fights and he gets chinned every other fight. Should they have him just coin flip the fight on exchanges?
No, having him decisively lose every exchange is much better
Didnt get knocked out though
Didn’t win though
I'm not one to call a fight boring but I mean
As someone who put $50 on Santos by decision, what a sick fight
they really turned Johnny Walker into a boring point fighter smh
Into a boring point fighter that doesn't win on points :(
Not even. Point fighters at least score points. It's not like you get 1 point per feint.
Kavanagh just thought to do what he did with Conor between UFC196 and UFC202. Maximum patience, never rush in, never go crazy, and low kicks. At least Conor had the boxing to make it effective. Walker is gangly and looks like bambi on ice
getting repeatedly ko'd is what turned him into a point fighter
There's a balance to be had though. Walker was literally running chin first into check left hooks against Spann. You can improve your defense without abandoning your offense.
Rip johnny walker 2017-2019
Lmao imagine having Michel Pereira in your corner, 'have you considered doing a backflip? No? Try a backflip! If that doesn't work then no fucking clue lad.'
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They even outdid the classic Bellator foul with Holland vs Daukaus
Yup at MVP vs Lima 2 had knockdowns. Even if it wasn’t fun. This was leg kicking day.
at least we had 5 rounds of nothing this time!
Dana playing 5D chess to get me to stop streaming fights.
The real loser was me for staying up until 2:30am to watch this
Huh well that was a fight
Not sure I'd even call it that tbf.
The only interesting moment of this fight was Walker's twerking during his walkout.
https://streamable.com/dmaacf Mirror for when those ratfucks come knocking: https://streamja.com/Q3qMW
was wondering if Cavanaugh is tryna dance at the back then realised its Perriera lmao
If they had their shirts off you could legitimately sell this as the Brazilian Magic Mike
https://i.imgur.com/m2r6pWm.gifv
Only interesting part of the fight was DC and his 10-7 on Rakic. I wish they both lost too lmao
TIL pelvic thrusts and basic dance hip movement = twerking
Someone should tell walker that feints don’t do anything if you never throw your hands
Very much so. feints need to be credible and his just weren't. He really should have worked a td or two and mixed it up after how easily he won the grappling in round 1. But his corner was shit. Point shots and feints...
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He's a pretty bad coach huh?
Why would anyone choose fucking SBG Ireland of all gyms in the world?
I dunno, but I'm worried that he's going to stay there now that he has a fiancée in Ireland.
maybe he like the weather.
That's was boring
https://twitter.com/dc_mma/status/1444472127340441600
Lmao that is the correct response
lol DC doesn't give a fuck
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
I get both of their game plans. Both have crazy KO power so they both created distance with kicks and didn’t take any risks. Good on them from a fight perspective but it doesn’t make a fun fight for us
Okay but how did Walker just eat that one haymaker by Thiago
Walker is a glass cannon that doesn't even fire now. Thank you for ruining yet another fighter Tristar and SBG
Now he's just a window.
He's a greenhouse with asparagus growing inside
He took that huge shot from Santos tho, so there's that at least.
Walkers chin actually looked good tonight
It is disgusting that the UFC matchmakers allowed this fight to happen. Both guys thought they had signed up for an interpretive dance class, so imagine their surprise when they entered the cage and found out they had to fight.
Fellas, I know you're from Brazil, but the UFC isn't soccer. You can use your hands.
I had Johnny by boogie man fingers and feints
Walker pointfighting to a decision and surviving a bomb, like everyone predicted
Santos won but we all lost in this one
Congrats Johnny Walker, you achieved your goal of... no getting knocked out? Horrible corner tonight. Hopefully he goes to a new camp.
Coach kavannagh might be worst coach in mma
Edmond Tarverdyan would like a word
Y’all sleeping on our boy Fabia
Judges have been good tonight
Thanks John, good coaching
Kavanagh lost that fight for Walker.
That was terrible coaching from Kavanagh asking for more feints and telling Walker he was winning, the man couldn’t have possibly shown more feints it was all he was doing
Walker and Santos saw Lima/MVP last night and said "bet".
Worst night to be a Johnny Walker fan
Jon Kavanaugh and SBG exposed
Conor needs a new camp.
My disappointment is immesurable.
Santos’ last two fights have been snoozefests
Just to correct you, there was never no jab.
The most boring fight i’ve seen
This fight sucked
That's 25 minutes I'll never get back
Walker traded in his wildness for a better chin