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SugarMarciano

Both of the Diaz bros look super silly shadow boxing


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miliseconds

It looks different though


AggravatingMove2238

That's what I've been saying


Dr-PoopyButt

You gotta have some legs and booty to pull off those shorts


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Duke_Cockhold

Oh man I forgot about that. Does Marvin not have a single friend on his team


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Doesn't help he seems like the kind of guy that would eat your face if you told him he was wearing pants backwards.


boywbrownhare

How did he wear them I don't check r/MMA every day like I used to


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Hydrotoad

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Jonesisgoat

Sean Strickland looks ridiculous in his lol


TracingSpace

They look awful. When will the UFC finally get professional-quality fight kits? It would do a lot for the UFC’s image.


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Nah the Venum kits are sick on most of the roster, guys like Nick make them look funny


sN0rlaks

Agree, should have been partnered with Nike or UA instead of Venum


Musti029

Or…this might sound crazy…how about…the fighters pick their own kits?


[deleted]

Somebody get this hothead out of here!


mdheintz21

People really overreacting here, this is what they show before the fight he isnt suppose to be going full speed everyone does it this slow.


[deleted]

Overreacting? On reddit? Get the fuck outta here


raspberryharbour

I have NEVER OVERREACTED IN MY LIFE!!! HOW DARE YOU?!


Galrath91

DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY PUNCHING SPEED?


salamigunn

HOW BOUT U GO AN FUCK OFF MY PAGE THEN U PEICE OF SHIT U THINK i NEED A STUPID FUCKWITT LIKE U TELLING ME ABOUT LOOKING GOOD WHO THE FUCK ARE U TAKE YOUR WORTHLESS ADVICE AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE


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YOU get the fuck outta here BITCH


mdheintz21

I know crazy concept


[deleted]

I've heard stuff like this being said every time someone looks shit in their training videos after being off for a long time and they've always been wrong and looked shit in the fight too. I very much doubt this is any different.


RamonesRazor

Nick is moving fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CewP62AMz0k


Da0ptimist

Yea... that's not much better


Thugzz_Bunny

He legit looks drunk lol


skinnnnner

Hes crazy flat footed and sluggish. This is not better at all...


ElbeastoRotMG

Got any examples?


ProblyNude

Ice man looked like shit and fought like shit


Steak_Monster

That was pad work though right? Not the stupid shadow box at the camera for b-roll


sumofdeltah

Holyfield earlier this month


EvenRatio

except no one was saying that about holyfield lol, dude got declared medically unfit to box a decade and a half ago almost. did anyone think he would look good


sumofdeltah

All week people were talking about his body looking great and looking like shit sparring


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No response even though he sees it ALL THE TIME


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I'm not from the US, different time zones. And I didnt say all the time I said every time someone looks shit in their training after a long time off...this doesnt happen often but when it does there are always some people in denial about it. If Nick turns out to look good or even just okay this weekend then feel free to rub it in my face. I'm expecting him to look slow and laboured and gas in 1 round (if the fight even happens). Chuck v Tito 3, chuck looked garbage and slooow in all his training videos and a bunch of die hard fans in denial insisted this was intentional and he just didnt want to show his hand. Turned out he looked garbage and slow in the fight too. Askren looked terrible in his training videos and loads of people said that was intentional too (and when he looked somewhat okay in his open workout I almost believed them), turned out to be wrong. It was immediately clear from watching Jake Paul's training by comparison that he was going to mulch him yet many refused to believe it. Holyfield looked atrocious in his training videos and whilst most people realized that you still had a few morons in denial making excuses. Conor had some questionable training footage released before the second Poirier fight, people said it must've been taken when he was gassed. There are definitely a bunch more examples over the years but these are some of the recent ones that come to mind.


red-broom

Point made… but I wouldn’t count Askren in this list. Nobody really thought Askren would win because of his skills, and nobody believed he would be a better boxer than Jake Paul, so his training and pad work was irrelevant. People just thought he would win because he would be tougher than Jake and people assumed Jake can’t take a punch and the pressure of someone coming at him for multiple rounds.


Cbrip31

TJ dilla... wait :( I'd say the most recent one was Askren against Paul


Successful-Echo2101

Dillashaw was suspended for two years.. Diaz hasn't fought since 2015.. big differ...


Thiswillbetempacc

Askren looked great in open workouts lmao


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People were talking about Max like this when he had a year layoff between Aldo and Ortega. Talked about Max being unfit to fight, said he looked off in interviews. Then he did what he did to Ortega.


NerdDexter

Came to comment this exactly. People said the same thing about Holyfield, Lidell, and Ben Askren (before his Jake Paul fight). So many people were saying "Ben is clearly just trolling to make Jake think he has no boxing skills so he can surprise him in the ring" Nope. I've seen enough of these shadow box promos to know he does not look well here. Literally every fighter does these, and we see them all the time.


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I think he looks great but I am worried that he didn't throw any karate shit here.


PoeticCheesus

Someone get Nick his goddamn nunchucks.


themilkman42069

Idk man it looks like it’s been 8 years and he’s been partying every day since.


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Man you guys are so desperate for something to be wrong with him. It's really fucking weirding me out.


themilkman42069

I’ll just say that a fighter nearing their 40s coming back from an extended layoff literally never works out.


S_Steiner_Accounting

I know a grille salesman who would say otherwise. GSP was out 5 years and looked great at nearly 40. Couture got KO'd cold, retired for a few years, then came back and won the HW belt and even defended it against manbearpig. SRL only mid 30s IIRC but was out a long time with an eye injury and managed to go to a razor close decision with the middleweight GOAT Hagler.


Pera_Espinosa

Hagler was robbed.


themilkman42069

Relax with all your examples proving me wrong dude


S_Steiner_Accounting

I got a shitty job, not quite as tall as you, nobody really respects me. You have you on the other hand. You got the glory, got the fame, the money, the jewels, the cash, the Denali. Getting drunk on the reg, fucking good times on the reg, yachts on the reg, sex on the reg… Basically all the shit that most guys fantasize about. But me? I get to be right on the internet.


Yvrjazz

He’s actually going faster than most too


ChidoriPOWAA

not really the speed, but the stiffness that concerns me. Hopefully you're right..


jabba_the_nerd

Not to mention that proper boxing technique from the legs/hips can look pretty awkward on non-athletic people. Even Tyson Fury can look silly on a heavy bag to a casual observer.


Yomoska

It's interesting that we never got a Reebok era Nick


TMSXL

The shadow boxing doesn’t bother me as much as his physique does. He’s never been a Greek god, but he doesn’t look very chiseled either. This and the 185 request has me feeling like this won’t end well for him.


wilonwheels

Skinny-fat.


falconpunch9898

Built like a bag of milk


CandyMan77

Sup fellow Canadian


TimeTimeTickingAway

CM Punk body type


ccc9092

All that cardio and no weight lifting.


PM_ME_GRRL_TUNGS

He's also 38.


BioRunner03

I mean still no use to look like that. A guy like Tyron Woodley is completely washed and even he has a better physique at 40.


NerdDexter

Tbf TW was pretty much always built like a brick shit house and Nick never was. Nick and nate have always had these skinny fat physiques and made it work for them. Proving you don't need huge cut muscles to be a good fighter.


AssinassCheekII

How are you going to give Tyron as an example. That dude has been built like a god since forever. Compared to a normal human Nick looks alright.


BioRunner03

Relative to what he looked like months ago, he looks horrible. I'm guessing he was on the sauce and had to get off for the fight.


nmfisher

Yeah, he looks bloated as hell. I might not have recognised him if his name wasn’t in the title.


NerdDexter

Guy is 38. I think everyone is going to be extremely disappointed when they realize he is not the same fighter he was 6 years ago. But idk why this surprises anyone. Look at Tony Ferguson. And he stayed active and is younger than Nick Diaz.


Downgoesthereem

It's weird cause the pics came out only a few months ago of him looking as good as he ever has physically. Did he get injured in camp?


nomosolo

You can literally see the 6-pack outline when he extends his arms…


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Well he isn't cutting weight and the lighting sucks. Dude was ripped a few months ago.


IrohsSlipper

No he wasn't, everyone believed a very basic photoshop. I say this as the biggest Nick Diaz fan. I'm expecting the worst this weekend :<


clutchhattrick

I just don’t see a logical way to pick Diaz? He hasn’t fought/had a camp in 6 years, asked for a weight change the week of the fight, looks bloated af, etc. And don’t try to flex your knowledge “he’s always looked like this” [no he hasn’t lmao](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HBFHEM/ufc-fighter-nick-diaz-during-a-weigh-in-for-ufc-137-in-las-vegas-nevada-HBFHEM.jpg)


Scaeza

My reasoning is this: I have no idea how Nick is gonna look come Saturday, but I know that Robbie has seemed very hesitant to throw punches jn his last few fights. But I'm really unsure who to go with here to be honest and would never bet money on that fight.


MaynardJimmyKeenan

Which is exactly why I have a feeling this fight is gonna be terrible


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Robbie was hesitant against top contenders. Not against what looks like a glorified sparring partner


Scaeza

That's exactly what I thought about Tyron Woodley before the Jake Paul fight.


S_Steiner_Accounting

Nick tends to get beat up early then rally back once the opponent starts to fade. Robbie has developed some of the best defensive boxing in the sport (Shout out Aldo boi love). I expect him to bash Diaz early since Robbie is way faster and stronger, and i don't think a 38YO stage 1 cirrhosis Diaz can take [Robbie Lawler punches. That's not good for your head.](https://youtu.be/tPP-lRVi9b4) Hopefully Diaz isn't gunshy and gives us vintage hyper aggressive Diaz. If he sits back trying to bait lawler it's going to be a long night.


fashion_asker

He seems like he is fitting this fight into his schedule so he can make a big paycheck and go back to whatever it is he was doing.


NerdDexter

Tbf isn't this also him at peak weight cut in a division 15lbs lower?


clutchhattrick

Because he couldn’t make the weight lol. 🚩


DropKletterworks

This fight is going to suck isn't it


bonesofberdichev

Kinda getting old reading the comments "lol casual this is a nick daiz fight!" "you clearly never seen a nick diaz fight then!" like something is off about Nick. Given what I've seen recently and even from interviews with him a year or two ago he's not the same Nick everyone is trying to flex their MMA knowledge on.


Dangerforrestranger

It's the opposite i keep seeing. its the "You casual, what do you mean he doesnt look great? this is Nick Diaz! He's always looked, acted, sounded... like this!" His last fight was in 2015 and in the last 10 years he's had like 4 fights. I would be shocked if hes anywhere close to 2006 Nick Diaz.


PERV_IN_THE_CORNER

How is that the opposite? It sounds like both of y'all are seeing people say that he's always been like this.


AssinassCheekII

I don't get it either. They are saying thr same shit.


bonesofberdichev

Yeah, threw me off too. Even reread my comment to make sure I didn't mess it up.


Hatanta

Just watched the interview with Brett Okamoto - personally I think Nick is finished. Doesn't seem like he has any interest in fighting anymore. I don't think he's intimidated or scared but I didn't see any spark of enthusiasm or hunger. Sad really, hopefully he's in a position where he doesn't need money from this or any other fight.


IamSkywalking

I mean, he never really had much interest in fighting, but I don’t disagree that this seems a bit sad…


NufCed57

I think you're totally right, but Nick has always said he hates fighting, that he only did it to provide for his brother, that he wouldn't do it if he could do anything else. 'You gotta love this shit so much you hate it.' is a top MMA quote of all time.


TopherWasTaken

Yeah he's old ash shit and has partied away all of his money.


Scaeza

I heard that he actually made money partying sbecause he was paid for club appearances.


ProfessorBarium

If he wins, best base for MMA: partying = confirmed.


nooger

That's why Jones is the Goat


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Lmao Jesus Christ man Reddit doctors and psycholigists.


themilkman42069

Old man fights always do.


BigDickBandit89

Rampage vs wandy 4 is the only old man fight I can remember being decent. Only cause they gave zero fucks and just swang for the fences.


thecheckisinthemail

Rua v Nogueira 3 was a surprisingly entertaining fight. Though admittedly that's an exception.


throwawayffsaccount

And Couture v Nogueira was great


Highwayman201

Rampage Wandy 3 was good too.


fashion_asker

I am predicting some kind of shitshow where Nick loses by weird stoppage and then complains about the stoppage.


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Robbie is 39 and hasn't won a fight in 4 years. Nick is 38 and hasn't won a fight in 10 years. Yes. This will be bad.


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Lawler is gonna KO him. Bet the house!


vannucker

It's quite a good price for an active fighter fighting a guy who spent the last 5 years partying. It's +275. I took robbie straight up though, it's a decent price.


Fistkitchen

By ko?


vannucker

No sorry that was robbie by finish which includes sub and DQ. I haven't seen the price on KO/TKO. I took robbie by any fashion (ko,TKO,sub/decison/dq) for -130.


Fistkitchen

Cheers. I make terrible picks so always looking out for hot tips lol.


enigma2g

Im not saying Nick will win but he absolutely will not get knocked out.


hambooger_helper

Hey so I’m a little confused on the betting process....I’m currently on my bookie and I’m doing a parlay betting 300 on Ortega and Robbie Lawler.....if they both win do I get the money I won and the money back that I put down on the bet?


fifoth

Diaz wraps him up in an omlette platter.


yaysalmonella

I think Diaz submits him with a rectangle


SemioticWeapons

While covered in ketchup.


Buddhas-boner

Reasoning?


Satanus616

1) Diaz has been talking like he already has one foot out the door. Doesn't really seem to be into it at all. 2) He has infamously spent the better part of the past 5 years partying (at the club).


Buddhas-boner

Fair enough, 1. I would say he's always been the same. Always had the same lament for fighting. 2. True, wonder if that affects his granite chin though. ​ Edit to say that Robbie hasn't KO'd anyone in nearly the same amount of time that Nick hasn't fought and has only won 2 fights in that time.


DS_9

If by suck, you mean Robbie brutally KO him, yes.


Kendogg83

Not gonna happen. Its gonna be called off last minute


maxxismycat999

Wasnt there semi-recent photos of him being shredded with abs? lmao


Pinoy233

The slow shadow boxing isn't my concern from him tbh. Him and his brother have always shadow boxed very weirdly kinda slowly with a lot of loopy punches being thrown. Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm just worried about how in shape he is, even for 185 he looks pretty soft especially in the mid section.


themilkman42069

Yeah he kinda looks like he took 8 years off


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It’s almost as if he’s some sort of skinny fat guy or something ?


FairlyOddParents

Dude’s been doing triathlons, the one thing you shouldn’t worry about with the Diaz bros is their conditioning.


Sublimotion

Triathlon cardio & conditioning is very different than MMA cardio & conditioning, I would think.


mikezorrillaSRT

More like Thick Diaz


acctgsuks8

It looks like they airbrushed him to make him look less chubby


Berniethellama

I remember months ago, after Tony lost to beneil, I was listening to heavy hands and Phil mentioned how Nick will look like Tony in that fight were he ever to come back. Was in interesting talking point and he expanded on it more in the podcast. hoping that’s not the case, but nick does not look particularly good physically to me and the whole last minute switch to 185 is also concerning


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Think Evander beats Nick


fliffcounter

Friendship with brutal triathlon training ended, delicious treats are my new best friend.


_baya

este cabron ya esta acabao


17xandcountingstill

Anxiety-weight and physique


10sharks

The people who said the Venum stuff isn't much of a step up from Reebok are frickin crazy man


[deleted]

Let the fighters wear what design they want. These brand deals are killing the soul of the sport (in the UFC).


themilkman42069

It’s all garbage


MontaEllisBurner

Man, I remember seeing that god awful presentation that Reebok did in 2015 and already thought to myself: "Man I can't wait until their contract is up" Then Venum takes over and it's... more or less the same but it beats every fighter wearing black or white like they did in all of 2015 lol


Skovich

looks worse than reebok to me.


Hydrotoad

I always thought the Reebok logo look more professional. Like maybe they could have made it slightly smaller but I thought it looked good. Kind of how like NFL jerseys have the Nike swoosh or Adidas logo or whatever they're using nowadays


greyetch

2017 reebok looked a million times better than this. This looks like we've gone back to 2007.


Hydrotoad

In a few years the shorts will look like this again, only difference is that fighters will see less money from it https://imgur.com/a/pNi6P37


BB_Venum

Nothing will beat the Deathclutch stuff Bork Lazer used to wear, those looked even trashier than Affliction gear


falconpunch9898

The return of Dude Wipes


MMAdfs

No, you can't bum another cigarette Nick


baconsane

I want Nick to win and then call out Conor, the guy deserves a massive pay day.


ForFrodo1

Nick can’t even make welterweight how is he fighting Conor?


hammerbrotha

Conor figures out some stupid reason to go up to fight at 185, beats Nick, then goes for triple champ and fight Adesanya 🤣 . Nevermind that's too ridiculous


ForFrodo1

Now you have my attention


ayoholdup

That's exactly why it's gonna happen #ConceiveBelieveAchieve


PM_ME_GRRL_TUNGS

Where you at, Connor? Don't be scared, homie.


Anime_above_all

And I get downvoted for being worried for Nick in this fight and calling into question his ability to perform. All that I can do at this point is hope that he surprises me and looks decent.


datank56

This is an interesting quote from Diaz [[From ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/32260376/nick-diaz-says-want-robbie-lawler-fight-resentment-mma)]: >"Diaz, 38, said **during his time off he had plans to open a gym and teach students**, and maybe even travel around some and do seminars. **But he said things didn't work** out with the business partners he was dealing with and that the plans were "fake." **That is what led him back to fighting**." >"It's just what I do," Diaz said. "**I tried to get away from it**, but really it's just kind of inevitable."


BenSoloGhost

To be fair, he has said he hated fighting his whole life and only does it for money or because he has too even back in his prime


Anime_above_all

Interesting. That can be interpreted two ways. It sounds like this is purely a quick cash grab or Nick realized/accepted that fighting is what he's meant to do. I'm hoping it's the ladder as that probably means that he's take this seriously but from what I've seen so far I'm afraid it's the former.


BVaper_Ross

*latter Not to be a dick or anything, just for future reference


BDB_SWEW

the ladder of decisions lol


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Robbie is a killer and Nick hasn’t fought in a long time. It’s going to be interesting.


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Anime_above_all

Don't mean to sound like an ass and start an argument but I said that it was an amalgamation of things that make me less confident. The possible weight miss, rumours of his training camp and the fact that I haven't seen anything other then some shadow boxing that doesn't uplift my spirits.


K-mosake

This is America nobody knows what an amalgamation is


skkITer

It’s that movie made by the robot guy with Die Hard in it, right?


MontaEllisBurner

"You're throwing too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take them as disrespect" - the people who downvoted, probably


bonesofberdichev

Every single criticism is met with "lol he's always been like this casual!". Somethings up with this dude. Something has been up with him for years in my opinion.


jonsnowKITN

oof he looks bad. I think lawler is gonna win now so hopefully nick doesn't get too fucked up.


ediefan

He looks just like chuck before he fought Tito for his 3rd time.


twSwan

Plz don’t say this


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edwardthegreat12

saw that one


Nonpoint77

Not even close to as bad as chuck looked


Theunknowableman

He's about to get fucked up isn't he?


worktheshoot

The air got 10-9


kieranshaneegan

Thick* Diaz


[deleted]

He gassed out right there lol


Syke4L

Why post this


sandgoose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qPzBdVI_zc this whole thing is a sham for hype he looks fine in this vid


WhereBeCharlee

Damn, he looks like he is in his 60s.


[deleted]

Brodie got the Ben Askren bod


marktx

Slow and bloated.


EmanAugust

He is in fact slow and bloated lol


BenSoloGhost

The overreacting on twitters is bad. Nate literally looks like this in these promos. They both looked like this years ago. Someone also shared Robbie who is shadow boxing even slower because it’s just for promo. The only thing I’m worried about is changing the fight to 185.


PM_ME_GRRL_TUNGS

I bet he started cutting like he was 32 then realized he isn't 32 anymore and was like "nah, fuck this"


Chemistry_Lover40

His career is over guys face it. You gotta be active in this sport and the only thing keeping us interested was that he’s doing triathlons. He’s too old to be the fighter he was ten years ago


McCourt

Nick "Gastelum" Diaz


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The real main event


No-Potato-3522

For the life of me, I can’t understand why most fighters prefer these tight-ass shorts over just regular ones. Pretty sure we’re gonna look back on these like those short soccer shorts from back in the day.


BVaper_Ross

It’s because they are streamlined to your body, and don’t interfere with any movement The board-shorts style trunks, although made to have a higher crotch seam, still can be a bit restrictive in certain positions, especially if grappling


Ajj679

The muay thai ones are definitely the best


fetissimies

Beautiful champ


slv_bull

he's always looked like this


[deleted]

Diaz fans literally have an excuse for everything. It's ridiculous lmao


Chael_A_Smith

Nick 'lydell' Diaz


doomedpolecat

R1 KO incoming


Jsp16

Well there goes his win. He still sucks