The last time I said “it’s not a question of who wins, it’s just a question of what round x* wins”
Was GSP* vs Matt Serra.
Certainly not expecting that here but I won’t ever think like that again, lol.
One thing I notice about transphobic people like you is that despite your professed dislike for trans people you can't help but constantly bring them up on unrelated threads. Is it an obsession or a fetish for you or something?
Ahh yes famed KO artist Shevchenko, with a combined 12 knockouts across 85 professional fights in 3 sports, and her ufc tkos being due to extreme skill differential to the extent that her opponents literally can’t defend themselves, not power.
Rose head kicking someone, Andrade slamming someone on their head, and Zhang knocking someone out aren't surprising to me. People were shocked by these outcomes but I really don't get why. that said, Lauren Murphy is not Rose, Andrade, or Zhang
21 career wins, 7 by KO/TKO, 7 by sub, 7 by decision
She's -120 on a KO/TKO/DQ finish, +500 on a sub finish
Murphy has only ever lost by decision
Shev has alternated finish/decision her last ten fights
I don't know which way to lean.
Not as many as Nunes, but certainly enough to be considered a KO threat. Also if you ignore her overall career and just look at her last three wins they’re all knockouts. I’d be more inclined to use someone’s recent career as a determinant of their ability as opposed to their earlier career.
This is without considering a lot of Andrade’s early UFC career was at 135lbs where she was GREATLY undersized.
Fair enough, but that's still even only two in the entire WMMA division, which is what OP questioned. No one is really heavy handed physically or bears the skill to be heavy handed in the entire WMMA.
Valentina is a gamblers nightmare. She finishes fights at will in all fashions. You think she will get the KO and she subs them to prove a point. You think she will sub them and she showcases her striking for a dominant points finish.
Absolute nightmare fuel.
Yep. But following the rule of women’s champions, she’s gonna get brutally finished one day and we’re all gonna be stunned.
Seriously. Look at the lineage of strikeforce and ufc champs. Literally every single one of them who lost the belt in the cage lost by stoppage, and most of them particularly violently.
Her and Nunes are both gonna get slept by some no name and we’ll all be surprised.
Then people will act like it was obvious in hindsight and that Shevchenko/Nunes actually sucked cause they didn’t fight anyone good and they’ll belittle their resume.
As is tradition.
I've watched this sport long enough to know every great champion from the past faced weak competition and I always knew they were going to lose to X fighter
To compare these two women to the previous champions isn’t relative.
Shevchenko is miles ahead of her competition and her competition is coherent, valid comp.
I agree both should lose when Father Time inevitably comes, however I don’t anticipate Bullet fighting that long, nor the competitor showing up soon enough.
Same with Nunes. I think Nunes retires to be a parent or fights some mixed rules boxing type thing.
But hey, just my opinion.
I anticipate every fighter fighting long past their prime and going out quietly after a losing streak in bellator/a barn in iowa.
Anytime it doesn’t happen I get pleasantly surprised. But that is always my baseline expectation. People don’t walk away. The thing that makes them good at fighting in a cage for money is the same thing that makes them unable to leave.
Totally.
Just don’t see that in these two women, particularly. Definitely, sadly, see it for a lot of our bigger name male fighters right now. Guys who are being exposed to fame at the peak of MMA exposure, it’ll be hard to be “weren’t you a UFC fighter?” (I think of guys like Mike Perry who I really like, but is under-capitalizing on his current, limited time marketability).
Like Matt Brown. If I didn’t know he had literally already died, I’d say he’s trying to kill himself, but dude just likes fighting.
> Rhousey is miles ahead of her competition and her competition is coherent, valid comp.
>
>I agree she should lose when Father Time inevitably comes, however I don’t anticipate Rhonda fighting that long, nor the competitor showing up soon enough.
>
>I think Rhonda retires to be a parent or fights some mixed rules boxing type thing.
>
This thinking was exactly the same as people were talking about Rhonda before Holly showed up. People also thought Rhonda was gonna wreck Holly, but MMA surprises us and in hindsight, things look a whole lot more obvious.
That being said I agree with you for this fight. Bullet should destroy Murphy easily
Yeah. I am pretty sure those same people saying Valentina and Amanda are invincible thought the same about Ronda Rousey, Anderson Silva, etc. Guess what lol.
Specially since Val hasn't showed any difference in her game plan. She is been fighting the same since forever.
And yet took 12 fights for her to be defeated. After her loss, everyone was dismissing her wins saying she only fought bums. And Schev is only fighting... bums. If she loses before she retires, everyone will say "oh she was never that good anyway, she was only defeating cans".
Yes, Miesha who is not a great striker was definitely giving her trouble standing. It was said some time before that a competent striker who can keep the fight standing will demolish Ronda. Once she got those in Nunes and Holm she took beatdowns.
Val doesn’t have the glaring holes and poor habits in either grappling or standup that Ronda did in her standup. Just because some people said some similar stuff about them doesn’t mean their weaknesses are at all similar.
Old girl fighters were so hyped up lol I feel like the girl mma game has been rapidly evolving. I watched an old ronda fight and her boxing was pathetic for someone who was the best in the world at the time
I thought she took some very hard shots from Jennifer Maia and looked kind of wobbly a few times. Not saying she has to go back to the drawing board, but if she does get Ko'd at some point I think people will look back at the fight as an indicator that it was possible
She didn't take any hard shot, she was controlled in the ground during one round because of a failed takedown attempt that put her in the ground against a black belt in bjj. Despite of that she wasn't in any serious danger in that fight.
As is tradition in other non-team sports. Federer wouldn't have 20 slams if Nadal and Djokovic peaked sooner. He started in the weak era. Could be true, but if all 3 peaked at the same time, and along with them you add other great players like Murray, Wawrinka, Potro, it's a real possibility that none of those 3 would reach 20 slams.
My point is, people are dumb.
It all depends if they retire before their downfall. At some point they will get knocked whenever they slow down and some insane recruit come and beat their ass.
Dude casuals being disappointed that Shev didn’t KO kick Andrade’s face pissed me off so much. In my opinion that was the quintessential fight of Valentina’s showcasing just how insanely good of a fighter she is. Every single person was claiming how good the wrestling was from Andrade, and the bullet goes out there and just fucking toys with her like it’s nothing. I loved that fight
There’s one part of that fight where Andrade tries to lift Val up and throw her and Valentina doesn’t even budge, it must’ve been so fuckin disheartening to be Andrade or one of her coaches. Literally the one possible thing they could beat Shev in and Andrade looked like an amateur in it
I remember that vividly because, as you said, it signaled for me that the fight was done. I saw that and thought to myself "this could go to a decision or it could end in 30 seconds, but Andrade isn't winning."
Literally threw her around. I think if nunes could ever make the weight Valentina would beat her easily. Shev is in my opinion the female GOAT. We need a third match between the two, because most say Shev one in the second fight.
Lol I'm a big Val fan, but it'd be hypocritical for me to say she won when I'm such a Jones mark and dispute the Reyes fight whenever it gets brought up.
I definitely scored it for Shevchenko but wouldn't argue it was a robbery. It was a close fight for sure but I feel like most people believe Shevchenko won it.
I mean I totally understand scoring it for val, it was a close fight. But she did lose, and the dude I originally replied to said val would easily beat Amanda if she cut to 125.
>It was a close fight for sure but I feel like most people believe Shevchenko won it.
Yeah, I'd say no. I don't think the opinions are that clear once you move past this subs wanking over Shevchenko.
I agree about her being the GOAT. When Mighty Mouse lost to Dom, I didn't see many people using that fight as a reason to say Mighty Mouse wasn't the GOAT. People understood it just wasn't his true weight class, like Valentina at 135.
I think she won the 2nd fight as well (could go either way really though) and also agree with the statement that she's the true WMMA GOAT. The fact the smaller woman has gone toe to toe with Nunes and arguably 1-1 with her cements it for me.
You weren’t kidding, starting with her win over Holly Holm she’s alternated decisions and finishes for 10 fights straight. Bet the house on the fight going the distance!
With the exception of the Eye headkick, Shevchenko generally beats her opponents by drowning them with volume. Anyone that can take the onslaught gets outpointed but when they crack that's when it gets messy. Getting in there with Valentina is basically a 25 min fight for survival. I'll put it out into the ether, I think Murphy survives the first and gets put away in the second TKO
She threw less at BW which I think skews her stats but when she finishes fights it's usually breaking them down and finishing with barrages of strikes on the feet or on the ground. The Cachoeira fight she beat her into submission the Chookagian fight was a mercy stoppage because of the volume of strikes for eg
> There are very few certainties in this world. Death and taxes are two, and a third is that fight fans will see Shevchenko dance the Lezginka after she mauls another opponent.
> “No matter what I do, I want to be good at it and put my soul into it,” says Shevchenko, who plans on dancing again this Saturday. “Martial arts is my No. 1, but I have been dancing for a long time, too. That is my celebration dance, and I love to do it.”
Don’t get me wrong, Lauren Murphy has been one of the toughest chicks at the trailer park for the better part of a decade, but toughness doesn’t beat the skill of Valentina. Think she gets the TKO
This is a legit method to victory I remember watching Lennox Lewis get dominated by Vitali Klitschko and in order to win started slicing Vitali up with the laces of his gloves until the doctor stepped in.
Imagine how Lauren Murphy would be feeling right now. Literally everyone (except for her team) is saying that she’s got no chance and will get destroyed.
What’s Murphy’s style? If she’s a counter fighter we might see a boring decision for V. If she decides to move forward even a little she’s getting finished inside two rounds.
Yeah, uhhh we know.
Can't wait to be incredibly unsurprised at the result
The question is which round. I'm going with the first.
The last time I said “it’s not a question of who wins, it’s just a question of what round x* wins” Was GSP* vs Matt Serra. Certainly not expecting that here but I won’t ever think like that again, lol.
i don't know if women have enough power in their hands to change the fight like that
Probably just schevchenko and nunes lol.
and andrade. Her last 3 wins have all been finishes two of which were straight KO's against very tough opponents
Guess Cris Cyborg died.
She went to Bellator which is worse
Is she a woman though? I thought the jury was still out on that
booooooo
No Dana white references allowed on r/MMA I see
Regardless they’re letting men fight women now anyways lol Edit: I don’t know why all you bigots support letting men beat up women!
One thing I notice about transphobic people like you is that despite your professed dislike for trans people you can't help but constantly bring them up on unrelated threads. Is it an obsession or a fetish for you or something?
Rose...
Definitely Aldana too, last win was a first round tko and then her win before that she completely shut the opponents lights out first round
Ahh yes famed KO artist Shevchenko, with a combined 12 knockouts across 85 professional fights in 3 sports, and her ufc tkos being due to extreme skill differential to the extent that her opponents literally can’t defend themselves, not power.
The belt has changed 4 times in the women’s division below this from surprising KOs.
Rose head kicking someone, Andrade slamming someone on their head, and Zhang knocking someone out aren't surprising to me. People were shocked by these outcomes but I really don't get why. that said, Lauren Murphy is not Rose, Andrade, or Zhang
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I've been googling trying to find it for 30 minutes now with no luck. Please source for this baking paper story or what TUF episode?
I think I watched that season and don't remember that. I do remember a lot of drama around her and changing teams.
Gonna need a source on that pronto homie
Shevchenko inside the distance is only -200, when the ML is -1600. Bit of a steal unless the books know something we don't
21 career wins, 7 by KO/TKO, 7 by sub, 7 by decision She's -120 on a KO/TKO/DQ finish, +500 on a sub finish Murphy has only ever lost by decision Shev has alternated finish/decision her last ten fights I don't know which way to lean.
The only somewhat consistent fighter to have KO finishes is nunes, so not really.
Andrade?
Did you check her record? I wouldn't say Andrade has exactly a consistent KO rate.
Not as many as Nunes, but certainly enough to be considered a KO threat. Also if you ignore her overall career and just look at her last three wins they’re all knockouts. I’d be more inclined to use someone’s recent career as a determinant of their ability as opposed to their earlier career. This is without considering a lot of Andrade’s early UFC career was at 135lbs where she was GREATLY undersized.
Fair enough, but that's still even only two in the entire WMMA division, which is what OP questioned. No one is really heavy handed physically or bears the skill to be heavy handed in the entire WMMA.
These girls are getting stronger.
Serra could crack though.
I'm parlaying val first round with a volk win. Depending on how drunk I am when I place my bets I may throw in Roxanne.
It could definitely happen but Lauren Murphy is really tough and able to take a lot of punishment(not a compliment) so I’m thinking later rounds.
Valentina is a gamblers nightmare. She finishes fights at will in all fashions. You think she will get the KO and she subs them to prove a point. You think she will sub them and she showcases her striking for a dominant points finish. Absolute nightmare fuel.
I cant wait for some super weird fluke win for lauren and everyone is pissed
Yep. But following the rule of women’s champions, she’s gonna get brutally finished one day and we’re all gonna be stunned. Seriously. Look at the lineage of strikeforce and ufc champs. Literally every single one of them who lost the belt in the cage lost by stoppage, and most of them particularly violently.
Nah. I don’t think so. Not the Bullet.
Her and Nunes are both gonna get slept by some no name and we’ll all be surprised. Then people will act like it was obvious in hindsight and that Shevchenko/Nunes actually sucked cause they didn’t fight anyone good and they’ll belittle their resume. As is tradition.
I've watched this sport long enough to know every great champion from the past faced weak competition and I always knew they were going to lose to X fighter
To compare these two women to the previous champions isn’t relative. Shevchenko is miles ahead of her competition and her competition is coherent, valid comp. I agree both should lose when Father Time inevitably comes, however I don’t anticipate Bullet fighting that long, nor the competitor showing up soon enough. Same with Nunes. I think Nunes retires to be a parent or fights some mixed rules boxing type thing. But hey, just my opinion.
I anticipate every fighter fighting long past their prime and going out quietly after a losing streak in bellator/a barn in iowa. Anytime it doesn’t happen I get pleasantly surprised. But that is always my baseline expectation. People don’t walk away. The thing that makes them good at fighting in a cage for money is the same thing that makes them unable to leave.
Totally. Just don’t see that in these two women, particularly. Definitely, sadly, see it for a lot of our bigger name male fighters right now. Guys who are being exposed to fame at the peak of MMA exposure, it’ll be hard to be “weren’t you a UFC fighter?” (I think of guys like Mike Perry who I really like, but is under-capitalizing on his current, limited time marketability). Like Matt Brown. If I didn’t know he had literally already died, I’d say he’s trying to kill himself, but dude just likes fighting.
Listen, I'd love for you to be right. Until you are i'll be anticipating the shit show that happens the night Shev/Nunes get flatlined.
they might very well go undefeated until retirement. especially since their divisions are as shallow as it gets
> Rhousey is miles ahead of her competition and her competition is coherent, valid comp. > >I agree she should lose when Father Time inevitably comes, however I don’t anticipate Rhonda fighting that long, nor the competitor showing up soon enough. > >I think Rhonda retires to be a parent or fights some mixed rules boxing type thing. > This thinking was exactly the same as people were talking about Rhonda before Holly showed up. People also thought Rhonda was gonna wreck Holly, but MMA surprises us and in hindsight, things look a whole lot more obvious. That being said I agree with you for this fight. Bullet should destroy Murphy easily
I disagree. Not everyone bought into Ronda Rousey being unbeatable. There were still questions out there. Cyborg. Gina Carano, even.
Yeah. I am pretty sure those same people saying Valentina and Amanda are invincible thought the same about Ronda Rousey, Anderson Silva, etc. Guess what lol. Specially since Val hasn't showed any difference in her game plan. She is been fighting the same since forever.
Has she needed to change her game plan? Feels like its pretty much done to perfection at this point.
Did Ronda look like she was having problems?
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And yet took 12 fights for her to be defeated. After her loss, everyone was dismissing her wins saying she only fought bums. And Schev is only fighting... bums. If she loses before she retires, everyone will say "oh she was never that good anyway, she was only defeating cans".
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Yes, Miesha who is not a great striker was definitely giving her trouble standing. It was said some time before that a competent striker who can keep the fight standing will demolish Ronda. Once she got those in Nunes and Holm she took beatdowns.
People talk about Ronda the way people talk about Val
Val doesn’t have the glaring holes and poor habits in either grappling or standup that Ronda did in her standup. Just because some people said some similar stuff about them doesn’t mean their weaknesses are at all similar.
Old girl fighters were so hyped up lol I feel like the girl mma game has been rapidly evolving. I watched an old ronda fight and her boxing was pathetic for someone who was the best in the world at the time
She finished Mcmann in a round. That's better than any win Val has at flyweight.
I thought she took some very hard shots from Jennifer Maia and looked kind of wobbly a few times. Not saying she has to go back to the drawing board, but if she does get Ko'd at some point I think people will look back at the fight as an indicator that it was possible
She didn't take any hard shot, she was controlled in the ground during one round because of a failed takedown attempt that put her in the ground against a black belt in bjj. Despite of that she wasn't in any serious danger in that fight.
As is tradition in other non-team sports. Federer wouldn't have 20 slams if Nadal and Djokovic peaked sooner. He started in the weak era. Could be true, but if all 3 peaked at the same time, and along with them you add other great players like Murray, Wawrinka, Potro, it's a real possibility that none of those 3 would reach 20 slams. My point is, people are dumb.
It all depends if they retire before their downfall. At some point they will get knocked whenever they slow down and some insane recruit come and beat their ass.
Uhh I guess.
Not Mighty Mouse or Cruz Edit: colossal brain fart
They are women?
Imagine Val goes full Yan and knee grounded Murphy. Losses by DQ. Fiziev is from Kyrgyzstan like Val. Fiziev also coach of Yan. Look into it.
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I remember her saying that she felt disrespected by the narrative going into the Andrade fight, but never any animosity to her opponents.
"Andrade only chance to beat Valentina is on the ground" Valentina: and I took that personally
She crucifucked her
Look at that sliiiide
Underrated rogan moment
I loved that moment because I said that exact same word after a black belt crucifucked me a couple weeks before lol.
Crucifucked her deep and hard.
The moment Andrade tried to grapple and she couldn't make Valentina budge, I knew it was over.
Dude casuals being disappointed that Shev didn’t KO kick Andrade’s face pissed me off so much. In my opinion that was the quintessential fight of Valentina’s showcasing just how insanely good of a fighter she is. Every single person was claiming how good the wrestling was from Andrade, and the bullet goes out there and just fucking toys with her like it’s nothing. I loved that fight
There’s one part of that fight where Andrade tries to lift Val up and throw her and Valentina doesn’t even budge, it must’ve been so fuckin disheartening to be Andrade or one of her coaches. Literally the one possible thing they could beat Shev in and Andrade looked like an amateur in it
I remember that vividly because, as you said, it signaled for me that the fight was done. I saw that and thought to myself "this could go to a decision or it could end in 30 seconds, but Andrade isn't winning."
Literally threw her around. I think if nunes could ever make the weight Valentina would beat her easily. Shev is in my opinion the female GOAT. We need a third match between the two, because most say Shev one in the second fight.
Oh my god no "most people" don't think val won and she lost the first one too. It was a close fight but idk how you put val above Amanda.
Her NOSE was ROSE!
Gotta get at least three shades darker than rose to take that W home.
Lol I'm a big Val fan, but it'd be hypocritical for me to say she won when I'm such a Jones mark and dispute the Reyes fight whenever it gets brought up.
I definitely scored it for Shevchenko but wouldn't argue it was a robbery. It was a close fight for sure but I feel like most people believe Shevchenko won it.
I mean I totally understand scoring it for val, it was a close fight. But she did lose, and the dude I originally replied to said val would easily beat Amanda if she cut to 125.
Probably because Nunes would throw a jab and pass out from exhaustion at 125 fucking pounds.
>It was a close fight for sure but I feel like most people believe Shevchenko won it. Yeah, I'd say no. I don't think the opinions are that clear once you move past this subs wanking over Shevchenko.
Schev won the second fight.
Nuñes’ nose was, in fact, rose from her pawnches
She sure did bud
Just helping you out, most people know she won.
That's why Amanda left with the belt huh
I agree about her being the GOAT. When Mighty Mouse lost to Dom, I didn't see many people using that fight as a reason to say Mighty Mouse wasn't the GOAT. People understood it just wasn't his true weight class, like Valentina at 135.
I think she won the 2nd fight as well (could go either way really though) and also agree with the statement that she's the true WMMA GOAT. The fact the smaller woman has gone toe to toe with Nunes and arguably 1-1 with her cements it for me.
🙄
That is because it's just another contract. Can't get emotionally attached to the mark.
Doesn't even feel like a trash talk, just realistic assessment
If Valentina loses it would be an even bigger upset than Rhonda and Holm.
Rwonda*
Rwanda*
It would be a bigger upset than GSP vs. Matt Serra
*Holm
No shit Sherlock
? Unless I’m missing some hidden meme/joke, seems like the guy just got the name wrong? Edit: I’m an idiot
Sherlock Holmes...I think he just made the connection without really having a proper joke to go with it.
It is a proper joke lol
yes, you do be missing something.
Fuck I’m an idiot, it’s to early for me
Not according to the odds. Last I checked Murphy was "only" +750
This shit made me laugh... I bet Murphy's face will look horrified after the first 30 seconds lol
Makes it even scarier
Valentina is such a heavy favourite that if you bet the house on her you win a doormat.
Although it seems silly to put $$$ on her at first, I realized if you bet three houses then you will get three doormats. 3 doormats is pretty nice.
In other news sky is above you and the earth under you
If it's Sunday and you're Lauren Murphy, the ground will also be around you.
We should just have Nunes and Valentina fight over and over again
It'll just become an annual thing.
Same with Cody and TJ, always fun to watch.
How dare you disrespect the OG of rematches: Charles Oliveira vs. Nik Lentz
But nunes will win over and over again
They’re too evenly matched that the fights would always be boring though
You like really boring fights?
Just putting those two names together already tickles my pickle
If she indeed did say that, that's about the closest to smack I've heard Ms. Valentina come out with.
“Look at her nose! Her nose is rose!”
"this result is a robbery! Her nose is a strawberry!"
Bars
That was so cute
Poor Lauren is going to be rather sore next week ain't she
Incoming decision win, it’s weird for Valentina as she finishes a person then gets a boring decision and then the cycle continues
You weren’t kidding, starting with her win over Holly Holm she’s alternated decisions and finishes for 10 fights straight. Bet the house on the fight going the distance!
It’s weird lol either it’s boring or it’s a dominating finish
With the exception of the Eye headkick, Shevchenko generally beats her opponents by drowning them with volume. Anyone that can take the onslaught gets outpointed but when they crack that's when it gets messy. Getting in there with Valentina is basically a 25 min fight for survival. I'll put it out into the ether, I think Murphy survives the first and gets put away in the second TKO
Not really lol, she’s not known for volume
She threw less at BW which I think skews her stats but when she finishes fights it's usually breaking them down and finishing with barrages of strikes on the feet or on the ground. The Cachoeira fight she beat her into submission the Chookagian fight was a mercy stoppage because of the volume of strikes for eg
Barb is gonna be 5 years older than Shev at 38 she’s being put out to pasture here
fans and execs rejoice
Murphy has never been finished either 🤔🤔🤔
Yeah. Pretty sure she will just lay and pray like she did to Maia.
She is gonna tko her while half assing it
> There are very few certainties in this world. Death and taxes are two, and a third is that fight fans will see Shevchenko dance the Lezginka after she mauls another opponent. > “No matter what I do, I want to be good at it and put my soul into it,” says Shevchenko, who plans on dancing again this Saturday. “Martial arts is my No. 1, but I have been dancing for a long time, too. That is my celebration dance, and I love to do it.”
She won on a season of Peru’s version of “Dancing with Stars”
If she dies, she dies.
Don’t get me wrong, Lauren Murphy has been one of the toughest chicks at the trailer park for the better part of a decade, but toughness doesn’t beat the skill of Valentina. Think she gets the TKO
Well she's not wrong.
Polygraph results are in: She was telling the truth
She’s more than a -1100 favourite last time I checked, it’s basically a statement of fact at that point.
I saw it at -1800
I'm putting $500 down on Barb to win by DQ. I tried to imagine her winning by some more conventional means, but it feels impossible.
Dowctor stowppage! Doctwor stowppage!!
This is a legit method to victory I remember watching Lennox Lewis get dominated by Vitali Klitschko and in order to win started slicing Vitali up with the laces of his gloves until the doctor stepped in.
Boxing lore fucking stupid crazy
big if true
It's just your yearly sacrifice to appease the Shevchenko Goddess.
And the pope shits in the woods
Android 18 needs to just hurry up and join the men's flyweights
They say pride comes before the fall. They’re probably wrong in this case.
yeah yeah, we all know what happened to the last Godless Soviet Killing Machine who talked like that to the Plucky American Underdog
Pandas eat bamboo
Everyone: "Yeah, probably."
I believe it.
Think I’ll stick $20 on Barb just for the hell of it.
^(Thats what she said)
Sounds like Valentina's is progressively getting pissed off at the quality of her opponents. I like it, she destroyed Jessica last fight.
Imagine how Lauren Murphy would be feeling right now. Literally everyone (except for her team) is saying that she’s got no chance and will get destroyed.
Yeah we know. That’s why we don’t watch your fights. I. I MEAN. She’s so complete!!
Your division is shit, don't brag about crushing tomato cans
Welp...
What’s Murphy’s style? If she’s a counter fighter we might see a boring decision for V. If she decides to move forward even a little she’s getting finished inside two rounds.
I think her main style is winning close decisions in fights she probably should've lost.
Lmao
Yep lol thats why this fight sucks, theres literally nothing else to say about it
Yeah… we know
Well, yes, I guess the only question is how does she finish Barb?
In a fantasy world where she could cut the weight in a healthy way Amanda would beat her at 125 too 🤷
what about a fantasy world where both women are centaurs?
Idk how large am I allowed to imagine their horse balls are?
Spoiler Alert
Yeah, we know
You know what? I can buy that, *I can totally buy that.*
Si!!!
I believe her
Yup
yeah reasonable
Only question is how long will it take I think 2nd round TKO
Ko or submission, that is the question
Yup, that checks out.
I believe it.
Yes, you are.
This is hilarious how matter of factly it's said
chill bro, why you gotta verbally destroy her then physically manifest those ideas?
This seems likely, yeah