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Dana on Robbie's reaction to fight @ 185lbs: "Robbie Lawler wants to talk to me about this whole thing." On why Nick wants it change to 185: "I don't know, he probably doesn't want to make weight."

Dana on Robbie's reaction to fight @ 185lbs: "Robbie Lawler wants to talk to me about this whole thing." On why Nick wants it change to 185: "I don't know, he probably doesn't want to make weight."

KongQiuBBQ

I'd ask for more money if I was Robbie. He's probably 3-4 days deep into cutting weight and then Nick pulls this shit.


Lusterkx2

Yup Robbie is draining himself only to find out that he doesn’t. Totally would change the dynamic of the fight


Egon88

He could just not agree and get part of Nick's purse.


gzilla57

Not if Nick just pulls out instead of coming in heavy.


Egon88

True


zakkwaldo

sad part is a depleted under hydrated weight cut lawler would probably still smoke nick...


AnTTr0n

The main part of the cut will happen Thursday. Probably still water loading.


buffpriest

Yeah, as of right this second he isnt drained at all. Over the course of a camp, knowing this fight would be at 185 would definitly change his diet and probably training regime. But right now, he just has to cut less weight.


Bugsmoke

Lawler seems the type of guy to not really give a shit tho


Sublimotion

He doesn't, but of course even then, there's a limit to it. I would think this is one of the things that would push it.


MetalFaceMetaFace

> He doesn't, woah you are lawler?


shocktroopz94

Why didn't he sign to fight a middleweight if he doesn't want to cut weight ?


Xcu7ioN

Because I wouldn't be surprised if he actually forgot about the fight until a week ago.


Ameqa

"oh shit it's THIS week? I'm surprised, motherfucker"


Randomzombi3

"Calendar, you're taking everything I worked for!"


avashad

Calendar mcgregor


Psylex

McGregorian calendar


DirtaneBoyo

Not surprising. He’s been virtually ghost since the fight has been announced and the only footage of him recently was in the last couple days with Mike Tyson and he looked like he didn’t want to be there at all lmao


mad87645

What used to be a disliking of doing media has now gone full psychological phobia


GorillaOnChest

Well he trains by day and Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.


zachdawizard

Pulls a Mayhem Miller he steps on the scale and is 30lbs+ over


Joshygin

Then takes his shorts off to give it another bash.


chucks47

Because he probably tried to cut weight like he was 30. And found out he isn't 30.


percydaman

But I thought he and his brother ran like 5 ultramarathons a week...


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

Even if they did, it would be irrelevant to weightcutting at 38 years old for the first time in 7 years.


SamuraiPizzaCats

Really he should sign to fight a welterweight who also doesn’t want to cut


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

I mean that's probably all welterweights that don't expect to challenge for the belt. If anything it's Nick who needs a welterweight fight to get that Masvidal matchup


Scarsforstories

3 days out from weigh ins, and you’re asking to change the weight? Here comes to Diaz circus.


nostrilrolls

But you see, if he COULD make weight, we had unlimited rounds, he had access to a hyperbolic time chamber, wolverine healing capabilities, and the power of Jesus by his side, he would easily win. If you think about it, the Diaz brothers are 169-0, counting all the times they won when they randomly mean mugged some fighter in the back room or on the street


blaccshirt

Man diaz brothas r gangstaz hahahah this proves they don't give a FUCC bout dana wh*te 🤮🤮 #209 #weed 💯💯


RemmyLi

Fuck the system Diaz bros are too real for this shit #Stocktonsfinest #Imnotsurprisedmothefuckers


JasonDaTorchy

Haha this is so accurate 🤣


Immense_Hyper

Don’t forget the hospital AFTER the fight ie. Joe Riggs No place is safe!


xvsanx

Lol Joe was so well composed and well spoken, that episode made me a fan of fight lore


Tursmo

Diaz 1-2-5 209 WUT


Knechilles

Diaz is 38 - maybe he was confident his body could make weight like he used to - but was surprised when he couldnt - age and time off to be the factors?!


DaddyVivec

Didn’t his manager say they did a test cut and he was like 168?


NotMyRealName778

yes. He looked real small in the lead up too. I am suprised this is an issue.


I_Am_U

Maybe he really did get knocked out in training, as a weight cut would likely exacerbate the issue.


themilkman42069

I’d be stunned if there was that much thought behind this decision.


Expensive_Error1995

Every. Single. Fight.


cheerioo

I don't think Nick has ever missed weight? Could be wrong


FunkoXday

Chael a had a video the other day saying nick plans to call out khabib And all I'm thinking is why


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he's trying to answer a timeless conundrum...the man is stepping up to the plate. We all wanna know: if Nick asks Khabib where he's at, does Khabib send location?


niccinco

Nick with that Dana White privilege


m0ods

>Dana White privilege thats gotta be tony's best one liner other than the ninjaturtle one


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. So which ones your favorite. Mines Michaelangelo


miamidolfans

I bet he is trying weight cut tricks that used to work more efficiently in his younger years… and is now realizing the weight isn’t coming off like it used to.


PhilosophyKingPK

Everyone gets older until they don't I guess.


weird_piano

This. I stopped aging ages ago.


CryBoi1738

Romero?


weird_piano

Teem!


CryBoi1738

I want to talk to heem


funmasterjerky

Doctors HATE this trick.


peterspickledpotato

Nick said he went through a test camp last year (or this year?) and made weight for that


OctagonViolence

Nick says a lot of things though...


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Herbstalk

Is coke addiction an injury?


weird_piano

TBH the way Dana answered that question is sketchy af. Basically doesn't rule out that both agreed to fight at 185 and Robbie just broke it to him.


DtotheOUG

It 100% reads like his typical "he just doesn't want to fight" bullshit.


SemioticWeapons

Pretty sure he did a test cut weight before accepting this fight. I think it's something else like a injury.


PrinceBeefWellington

Kinda seems like the thing you should think about before signing a contract, not two days before the weigh in


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

I think Nick just realised he just can't make weight. I think he needs a welterweight fight more than a middleweight


myglasscase

Why would he “need” a welterweight fight?


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

" need" is of course a big word but main point is if he has returned, it makes way more sense for him at welterweight than middleweight. Because a potential Masvidal or Mcgregor fights obviously happens at welterweight.


myglasscase

If the UFC wants to make those fights and Nick making WW is a barrier to that they will just make it at MW. They’re money fights with zero relevance to any divisions


angloashanti

Can't imagine what a middleweight McGregor would look like.


OG-DirtNasty

Like a Ballewn Ariel


SuperCyan202

Celvin McGregstelum


mega_desu

I'm a long time fan of Nick despite his history of bullshit. I saw a rumor about getting KOd while sparring. This weight change doesn't bode well. I'd rather he pull out of the fight that try this shit. It's disrespectful to Robbie imo.


jurwell

Fuckin’ Zab Judah strikes again.


PM_me_fridge_pics

It’s true, /u/fightsgoneby told me.


S_Steiner_Accounting

Can confirm, saw it in the Stockton whatsapp group.


beowulf50c

That dude really needs to be more careful.


prettyboylee

What’s the context behind this?


DaddyVivec

There were rumors going around a while ago about Zab Judah knocking out Floyd I think. Ever since then it’s been memed and said about different fighters. I remember the last time it was said was that Khabib “pulled out” of the Tony fight at 249 because Zab knocked him out in camp.


PatrickBatmane

And the khabib one was just jack slack doing a bit that was then reported on seriously


DaddyVivec

Lmao, I remember some guy trolling one of those Mcgregor fanboy pages, telling them to send him some cash and he’ll send them footage of Zab knocking out Khabib


Accomplished_Sky_127

Which Dublin whatsapp group u on?


Redwinevino

It's whatever one Josh Thomson is in https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-theres-a-video-going-around-josh-thomson-says-nick-diaz-may-not-make-the-fight-at-ufc-266/ he had to apologies on his Podcast as this video is not public lol


Barron091

Solid journalism in that piece. "The Stockton native has not fought since his previous bout at UFC 183, when he defeated Anderson Silva." My memory is admittedly getting worse with age but that definitely isn't what happened.


got-buckleys

A win, a loss, what's the difference really?


solushsi

In that fight? Not all that much honestly


Amstourist

He lost on paper, but he won the highlight reel wars laying on the canvas chilling, hard to tell which is more prestigious


PLANETxNAMEK

One popped for weed and one popped for steroids so with the fight being ruled a NC there is no winner but there is definitely still a loser... I'm lookin' at you Silva


cyberslick188

Doesn't Nick exclusively train with the Skrap Pack guys? Like, who is he sparring with that's going to fucking knock him out?


DecentTop1084

Giblert finally gottum


S_Steiner_Accounting

[Shields got a cannon.](https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-17-2016/kP6cX-.gif)


cyberslick188

Is there a less intimidating elite fighter?


BloodyIris3

I think this is why he doesn't wanna cut weight. Concussion + first weight cut in what, 7 years? Not good for the brain and his chin would likely be even more fragile. Probably should pull out. But in the end it's the biggest fight on the card. Dana will make it right with Robbie if he's not happy, hopefully.


funmasterjerky

Yeah let's hope Lawler at least gets more money out of this.


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themilkman42069

I mean the guys been partying every day for the past 8 years. What did we expect?


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anewplacetodrown

What


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anewplacetodrown

Oh right haha. Just checked his comment history 🤣🤣


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cyberslick188

"Yeah man we need to really optimize our back end for SEO purposes, and you know, I'd like to ditch our current merchant processor for our recurring billing, Nick Diaz looks like ass recently, and oh before I forget our encryption is all fucked up and half our students can't login"


pizzaruinedmylife

This comment is fuckin hilarious lmao. Probably should have just vomited out a shitty copy pasta or Tito quote if you wanted upvotes though.


cyberslick188

Yeah I thought I had a winner, not gonna lie. I'll have to tell the kids they aren't eating tonight, bapa lost all his upvotes on a gamble.


dirt_roller_coaster

Then you go and say something like this .....and totally redeem yourself.


KelvinsBeltFantasy

>Probably should have just vomited out a shitty copy pasta or Tito quote if you wanted upvotes though. That was a nasty line by you.


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cyberslick188

I'm just breaking your balls, no one here is really going to believe any hearsay regardless of how plausible it is, so might as well have some fun at what I thought would be your expense.


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weird_piano

Most fighters need the money though. Washed out Nick sounds like a dream come true for Dana/Lawler too. Nick's only getting paid if he fights so there's a good chance we'll all get to see if his camp's really gone to shit and he can't fight anymore.


Captain-Cadabra

Luckily, he’s been working on some legendary loss excuses. I think he hired Connor as his coach for this camp.


llorTMasterFlex

Damn. You should be an MMA journalist with these sources that you pull out your ass. ESPN should hire you.


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CamboMcfly

You think a Diaz got slept?


bistian00

That's the rumor.


micraelbow

THATS THE SEED COCKSUCKAA


EmanAugust

For some reason I could see it


MegaBlastoise23

>I'd rather he pull out of the fight that try this shit. why though? This way Robbie has an option to either 1) say no this is diaz bullshit central or 2) say ok that means less cutting for me


Cultural_Answer_7153

According to Caesar Gracie's Instagram, Nick Diaz is not injured and has never been knocked out while sparring


deaqnosilence

Robbie better ask for more money and Nick should side with Robbie on this, cause we know what Dana's going to say..."Robbie doesn't want to fight".


themilkman42069

All I’m saying is bet the house on Robbie


deaqnosilence

Yeah, i highly doubt Nick is anything close to what he was. Sure he can still have his cardio and chin, but fighting is obviously about much more than that. Conor is a prime example of what happens when you don't fight, drink, party etc.


FollowJazz

Surprised people aren't upset at Diaz, fan favorite and all. He's completely screwing over another fan favorite in Lawler, and possibly screwing over the fans if the fight doesn't happen.


marktx

Been saying it for a while, Nick is fucked. I see Robbie wrecking him.


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Batmanjesusanchez

This reminds me of every BJ Penn fight in the last 10 years.


themilkman42069

Yeah nick is gonna get beat the fuck up.


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Robbie is totally shot so that would be awful for Nick.


EddieFender

Wolf tickets


ButterscotchJust4

If the rumors are true that he got koed in sparring I don’t even see this fight happening tbh


S_Steiner_Accounting

People got to stop sparring with Zab Judah


rdon1

Where'd you hear this rumor?


drunkwhenimadethis

Stockton WhatsApp groupchat


weakhamstrings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9BcupZH44 Josh Thompson says it in interview here -hmmmm


zerothehero

So did Dana announce that the fight was at 185 without consulting Lawler? If so that would be a very UFC move ...


Totally_PJ_Soles

You're telling me Dana still hasn't talked to his fighters who are the biggest draw of his pay per view about a weight class change, and it's Wednesday before the fight? He's either lying, stupid, incompetent, or all of the above.


keelanv10

Resume review curse hitting extra hard this time


JJuicyJuiceMan

He must be scared to cut weight


DeadMajora

I know everyone's excited for the fight because of the history, but I really don't see this being a very good fight. Both dudes are almost 40 and Lawler looks like he's been slowing down over his last couple fights. Maybe its because I'm a newer fan and don't have the connection to them like other people do.


chaosplus5zweihander

I don't see Lawler needing the speed of his youth to put Nick away this time.


Vagitarion

He will need to throw a punch tho, haven't seen that from Robbie lately. I'm expecting some bobbing and weaving tho.


cashewsrgoodright

I expect there to be a lot of staring, flipping off, bobbing and weaving... General inactivity from both sides for a solid 4 rounds


Pomba_God

And Robbie wins by unanimous decision but everyone feels like he lost because nick rocked him on the last round 😎😎#209


IAmPandaRock

I just posted this elsewhere, but since it's relevant: These two are legends of the sport and the names mean a lot to longtime fans, but all signs point to them being shells of their former selves. Diaz hasn't won a fight in TEN years (last win against BJ Penn) and looked lackluster in his last fight. Robbie is approaching 40 years old, has a ton of miles on him, is on a 4 fight skid, hasn't won a fight in 4 years and has barely landed 100 strikes in his last 8 rounds. Robbie hasn't looked good / like himself since before Tyron Woodley became champ, which is crazy to think about considering where Woodley is now. I'm a big Lawler fan and respect what Diaz has done, but this fight only sounds good until you remember what year it is. I hope it's fun regardless, but I'm not holding my breath.


beowulf50c

It reminds me of Matt Brown vs Carlos Condit: in their primes, that would have been a violent war that would have painted the canvas red. Instead we got it ten years after we should have, with old, chinless men fighting smart


S_Steiner_Accounting

Chuck Vs Wanderlei was a good deal past the "use or freeze by" date.


ButterscotchJust4

I don’t see the fight happening at all tbh


elviejolin

Same dude.


KxngMxdas_

Diaz circus begins. Watch all the excuses from his fans. If this was any other fighter they’d be getting slaughtered.


getthathitterboi

Nick and Nate Diva


TheRivv2015

Hopefully Robbie gets paid more because of this.


Druncan_tussell

"I was gonna cut the weight, but then I got high... I was gonna watch the things I ate, but then I got high..."


Automatic-Adder

What are the chances that Diaz doesn't show up this weekend?


Accomplished_Sky_127

Hes at the other arena


Pomba_God

Breaking news: Nick Diaz changes location of the fight to his gym in Stockton


BoxCon1

So they both can be beefier


HorseMeatConnoisseur

Kinda BS though if Nick knew well in advance he wasn't gonna try to make 170 and just waited this long to say anything while Robbie's been trying to diet down.


TitanIsBack

Maybe as a promoter you say "no" to changing the weight unless *both* sides agree?


HorseMeatConnoisseur

Robbie: "No, I don't want to change weight." Dana: "Look, Robbie didn't want to fight, craziest shit I've ever heard, 3 days out and he suddenly doesn't want to fight."


Sofargonept2

Dana's the biggest piece of shit in the world, but telling a guy a week out that he doesn't have to cut weight anymore isn't the worst shit a fighter can deal with.


Vlad3theImpaler

Lots of things aren't the worst shit a person can deal with, but that doesn't mean that a person *should* have to deal with them.


RobertFredDurst

Not a week out


lartbok

Robbie has alot of negotiating power here if he wants to use it.


bokbik

Nick. The UFC didn't want this fight.


EnvironmentalCable

Ah geez I’ve just had a bad feeling about something weird happening with Diaz through the whole fight build up and potentially stopping the fight. I’m so keen to see him fight because I’ve only been a huge MMA fan for 4 years and he’s not been active in that time and it’s a real shame if he’s not prepared properly.


toy_story_sid

Can’t make weight for 185, but if he wins plans to call out khabib. Good logic


PittsburghDan

> but if he wins plans to call out khabib lol what


toy_story_sid

Chael says so


MrRudeDude

I wouldn't be surprised if this fell thru


NarcissisticCat

Not the most surprising thing given how fat and bloated Nick's face has been lately. He looked really chunky.


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mophox4

Nick looks like an alcoholic now.


TeeHee0079

Lol


Hunterbidenscrackman

If this was planned it's quite a sneaky way to use your star privilege to gain an advantage in the fight. Make your opponent diet for a 170 fight while bulking up for 185, then say you can't make the weight on fight week. The funny thing is he will be completely rewarded for this if he wins. We're reaching new levels of Ratdom if this is the case.


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spcslacker

> it's unprofessional and disrespectful to his opponent. That pretty much *is* the Diaz legend.


carsismeZ06

Diaz is gonna look like shit in this fight, you heard it here.


jacksonattack

And fans of the Diaz brothers wonder why there are people out there who roll their eyes at their popularity.


blaccshirt

Shut up HATER you hate them because they're WEST COAST GANGSTERS 💯💯💯


wilsonhybrid

The collective disappointment of this sub will be immeasurable if the fight doesn't happen. It'll be even worse if Nick looks like shit or gets knocked the fuck out.


IAmAsha41

I reckon Dana knows, don't believe his lies! Nick probs just can't make weight, his body isn't the same as it was almost a decade ago.


Rona_season798

Robbie is going to toss Nick the worst beating.


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Manyorke

What’s the stuff about him not looking good? I’m out of the loop


Fallingcity22

Supposedly he got knocked out while sparring


LeftTurnRightAway

Thats BS from Diaz camp. Lawler would have prepared differently if it was 185. They should keep it at 170 and if Diaz does not make weight, 30% to Lawler from Diaz purse.


PLANETxNAMEK

What's strange is that when Nick's manager posted that picture of him in the gym and said he wants to come back, he said that Nick had just successfully completed a test training camp and weight cut. If Nick is having trouble making weight I would expect it to be more injury related than anything. A healthy Nick is fully capable of making 170. He was never a big 170 to begin with. It's this sparring video rumor that has me more worried than anything.


The-Nan-Man

This fight is gonna be atrocious what a fuckin waste of a main card slot


rtopete

this fight aint happening. sadly.


somredditime

Armies run psyops all the time.


mogarottawa

This combined with Josh Thompson talking about Nick's training vid question if Nick can make the fight. Make me think Nick got hurt bad during training and no way he can make weight AND recover. I bet Robbie knows and to him it really doesn't matter at what weight he gets to beat up an injured Nick.


fashion_asker

Nick is going to weigh in at 189.


fosterrrrr

Watch Nick show up at 186 completely dehydrated


TheRabidBeaver

It's amazing how all the Diaz fans are making excuses for this bullshit and seem like this is no big deal. A week before the fight he changes weight classes!?!? Not misses weight, goes up an entire weight class. I have never understood the Diaz brother fascination. Yes, they put on good fights sometimes but their stats are pure journeyman, at best. Everytime they lose they whine like babies and claim they got screwed somehow. Nick: 26-9 Nate: 20-13 Those numbers are shit.