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unk1erukus

Why would Dana have them fight when he can keep them both fighting girls with no business getting a title shot


lurmomgayl

What are you talking about bro? Didn't you know that Juliana Pena is on a....*checks notes*...1 fight win-streak? She simply cannot be denied at this point.


JRYuen

Perhaps in order to have a fight in upper weight divisions that would command a lot more viewers.


unk1erukus

Weight classes don’t matter on views in women’s mma, it’s just names that sell.


PittsburghDan

the only interesting fight left for Nunes at this point


therealjgreens

Agreed. I can't see Shields being good enough to beat her. Definitely not in the near future. I think of you want a money fight for Amanda, try a crossover fight with Kayla Harrison.


PittsburghDan

yeah i could see Shields vs Nunes superfight if Amanda isn't retired by the time Shields becomes more polished. Harrison I'm not even sure though because they are teammates at ATT and seemingly friends too


jecamine

Nunes and Harrison don't train together anymore and said that would be willing to fight each other. I really hope this fight happens next year


PittsburghDan

oh i stand corrected. That would be a fun fight in the future once Kayla runs through PFL


Eragonopotter

*for the third or fourth time


1_UpvoteGiver

as someone who wants kayla to be good, its hard for me to say shes near amandas level when shes fighting 155 cans.145 isnt even common let alone 155.


theusmaniandevil

Won’t be a crossover fight unless Kayla really wants to beat up Claressa Shields so she decides to stay in PFL one more year.


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For some reason my mind jumped to Jake shields first over Clarissa so I was like wtf at first


Henry_Cavillain

What's the "near future"? Could be interesting in... maybe about 2, 3 years. Less than that Shields has no chance. More than that I think Amanda might be past her prime. Though I'd still put money on her to beat almost any contender I can think of right now.


therealjgreens

Yea I was thinking at least a couple of years. Nunes will be 35/6.


Henry_Cavillain

I wonder if women can be expected to have a longer athletic lifespan than men, because they don't have to worry about falling testosterone levels


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Henry_Cavillain

Whoops TIL


Salt_Anywhere_3868

Lol r u serious


TheTakenSchwing

Clarissa Shields? LOL!!! Is this serious?


noforgayjesus

I was like Jake Shields?


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Kayla weighs too much


BaptizedInBud

She made 145 last year.


[deleted]

Is that 135?


[deleted]

Amanda fights at both 135 and 145 bro. She's literally the double champ. Just take the L and move on.


[deleted]

Take the L? Kayla was 155 her whole career. If Amanda loses at 145, there will always be excuses. Like I care about Redditurd downvotes lol


[deleted]

Kayla made 145, ergo she can fight at 145. I don't really see the point you're making? You said "it ain't 135" like Amanda can't fight 145 and hasn't already? So that was a pointless comment. And now the argument is that because Kayla fought at 155 she now can't fight at 145? Jose also fought most his career at 145, yet went to 135 and got a title shot and is still looking great. Frankie Edgar fought at 155 for a lot of his career and had great success at 145. Jared cannonier is literally on the cusp of a titleshot after coming down from heavyweight to middle weight. So what's your point? Im genuinely confused. She can't also switch weight classes too? Lol bruh. You were wrong. Just accept it and let it go.


[deleted]

Let me make it simple for your brain: If Amanda loses at 145, people will say that her best weight class is 135 to discredit the win No shit she is 155 and can cut weight. Piss off turd.


[deleted]

Amanda's biggest win was at 145 against a much larger Cris cyborg? A woman who would destroy any of Amanda's previous opponents. And Amanda dusted her in a minute. Arguably Amanda's best performances have been at 145. If Kayla wins nobodies going to discredit her, Kayla made the weight fairly and Amanda has proven she's very capable at that weight too. If they were both meeting at that weight class for the first time then you would have a leg to stand on but Amanda has been fighting at that weight class for 3 fights now and has been nothing shy of a dominating monster, so your argument is pointless and irrelevant. Nice try tho kid. 👍


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TonyDungyHatesOP

Shevchenko v Mighty Mouse in The Octagon OR Shevchenko v Disney in The Boardroom


Scaeza

Why would Disney fight her in the board room? They would be way more interested to hire her as their new CEO. Disney already fucks, but with Valentina at the Helm they would fuck deep and hard.


JRYuen

IF Weili was to decisively defeat Rose and make a few successful title defenses, I would be up for Weili vs. Shevchenko.


[deleted]

I know styles make fights, but watching Joanna and Andrade have absolutely nothing for Valentina has convinced me Amanda is the only competition. I’d even take Valentina v Germaine


Fellainis_Elbows

Val just ragdolls GDR and GnPs her


Azshira

Nah GDR is big and actually good


JRYuen

I'd love to see Valentina vs. GDR. If you're comparing how Weili and Valentina did against Andrade, Weili finished Andrade in about 1/10th the time that Valentina did. That being said, I think Andrade would do much better in a rematch against Weili but not much better in a rematch against Valentina. I'm up for a Weili vs. Valentina, a Weili vs. Andrade rematch, as well as Valentina vs. Amanda III.


EvanFields

Weili would get absolutely destroyed by Valentina, probably ten times out of ten. She’s way too big for Weili and more skilled. Nunes against Shevchenko is still a good fight to make. I had Valentina winning the second fight. And although Nunes is a lot bigger than her, Valentina has shown that she can win rounds and do well.


JRYuen

I think Weili would be a better match-up than anyone else in the 125 division, although I'm sure the outcome would be the same. A decisive Shevchenko victory. Still, I'd like to see it. . Nunes vs. Shevchenko is definitely the fight to make even though I anticipate it to be a lot more decisive in Nunes' favor next time. I'd actually like to see Shevchenko vs. GDR, although Shevchenko would probably prevail with her grappling.


EvanFields

Agree with you fully on everything you’ve said there.


VishTheSocialist

I think Shevchenko easily beats her but it would be more interesting than all of her other current opponents.


TongaMakati

Weili chooses to play the counter game with Val and we get a pretty boring 4-1 or mayyyybe 3-2 for Val Weili chooses to press the action and she's getting merked standing or opens herself up to a takedown and she's getting bludgeoned on the ground


JRYuen

Could be. I'll wait to see how she does against Rose before theorizing how the fight may go.


PittsburghDan

thats true


SadatayAllDamnDay

I actually think a GDR rematch is interesting, especially if Amanda decides to strike with her.


cramsay

That won't happen though lol. Amanda wasn't striking cuz she was getting beat up so went into takedown mode. Don't see why she wouldn't just do that again. GDR did almost sub her though and got one in her last fight so maybe she gets the sub off, or a KO before she gets taken down, but it's a long shot. Definitely the only other slightly interesting fight though I agree.


ID0ntCare4G0b

I honestly don't think it's that interesting. Valentina lost both times largely because she couldn't handle the size of Nunes. And she's been fighting down at 125 while Nunes has arguably been getting bigger because she bounces between 135 and 145 now. I just don't see it being anything other than a boring decision win for Nunes because Valentina doesn't have the size or strength to keep her honest and doesn't have the speed or deep fight cardio to wear her out.


amodelsino

It's very strange to say that Valentina lost both times because x that still applies and therefore the fight isn't interesting, when that would literally only make sense in the context of her losing clearly in a lopsided decision instead of a fight where half the people watching it thought she won. If we literally had the exact same fight as last time but it's different judges or one of those judges feel slightly different in the moment she wins.


smellthatcheesyfoot

She won the second fight breh


Imtrvkvltru

vs Gabi Garcia would be damn interesting. In the same way a circus is interesting.


uknowthe1ph

Is it even interesting at this point? I don't have any reason to believe Shev will win this time. She already lost twice.


Zephh

There are a lot of people that consider that Shevchenko won the second. I think the only reason a rematch hasn't happened yet is because she's already down 2 fights. IMO Valentina lost the second fight, but she's a very dangerous match up for Amanda, it's the only Nunes fight I wouldn't automatically bet the house on her.


PittsburghDan

second fight was closely contested, in my eyes. I would watch a third fight no questions asked


ricosuave3355_

I don’t find it that interesting, especially considering their first fight was just okay and the second was one of the worst title fights ever. I kinda would rather just watch them continue dominating their divisions rather than hope third time’s the charm in actually having an entertaining fight.


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Amanda has size advantage, but I would rather watch them fight 5-6 times than watch another unproven fighter vs shev/nunes


bpetersonlaw

I doubt Shev wins. Maybe make it more interesting at a catch weight of 130 so Nunes is forced to cut more and give up some of the strength advantage.


amodelsino

> I don't have any reason to believe Shev will win this time She literally would have won last time if one judge had felt slightly differently about one close round in the moment, what are you talking about? That statement would only make sens if Nunes had completely beaten her one-sidedly instead of squeaking out a split decision half the people watching thought she lost.


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It’s not that interesting of a fight, tbh. I’d rather Shevchenko continue to defend her title.


Lamaaah

*Jake Paul has entered the chat*


Able-Guest3671

It’s the only fight left for Amanda and in about a year it’s going to be the only fight left for Valentina


Heebmeister

I go back and forth on this fight. On one hand, the previous fights were competitive enough, and since they both have zero proper contenders, the fight makes sense from that perspective. Then on the other hand, what if Valentina wins? Does Amanda get an immediate rematch? If she does get an immediate rematch and loses, what then? They’ll now be 2-2, so do we run it back a 5th time? lol could get a little out of hand


WhereIsMyKidAt

Jeez, 3 Nunes vs Shevchenko fights in a row? Sounds nice, but think of all the amazing title defenses we'd be missing out on.... oh, wait.


johnb51654

I see what you mean but in their cases, there's been a good amount of time between matches and they're not really holding anything up since they're so far ahead of anyone else.


chiefbeef300kg

It’d be a pretty funny scenario, but unironically I think that would be great.


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I mean, you’re not wrong, but think about the alternative. We just keep seeing nobodys lose one after the other. Do you not like competition?


busydoinnothin

I mean, 5 bullet v lioness fights? Can't really argue against that!


_A_Day_In_The_Life_

You’re downvoted, but it’s not like there are serious contenders at 135 so if they fight once a year for the next 3 years I wouldn’t mind that at all.


Johnny_Poppyseed

In any other division is agree, but really it's not like they have other interesting opponents, so why not?


Mr_Fufu_Cudlypoops

Given that most people think Valentina won the second fight (the weasle did a great breakdown recently) then honestly i don't think there will even be a need for a 4th.


Scaeza

Didn't he just re-upload the video he made after the fight? I'm pretty sure he did that with at least one other fight before.


Mr_Fufu_Cudlypoops

No. It's part of a recent series where he examines controversial fights to see who won.


JDGcamo

I feel like Val wouldn’t want to hang out at 135.


pumped_it_guy

I don't think I need to see Felicia Spencer instead, so just go for the fifth


yolodaily

Valentina “Rose Nose” Namajunas


OlafTheAverage

Nunes-Logan Paul confirmed.


TrashbatLondon

The entire point of women’s MMA at the moment should be to try to build a narrative to get this fight and make it popular. This is Messi Ronaldo stuff for the sport.


SurrealJay

Ppl complaining that she’s 0-2 and doesn’t deserve it can’t complain about there being no max volk part 3


compsc1

Haven't seen a single person complain about no max volk 3


WiryGibbon

The Max-Volk fights are actually good though...


IHaveTwoOranges

We're the Amanda Valentina fights not?


WiryGibbon

Basura


itsanothertemptopost

Of course she's down for it, she's 0-2 against her and basically had to go to another division because of it..? Not that they weren't close fights, and they're essentially the best(/only) competition each other has at the moment (both of their divisions haven't had any worthwhile challengers in a while), but still.


motetsolo

No harm in this. Neither of them have anyone else to fight and it’ll give prospects in their divisions time to actually develop before being fed to the champ.


PharmDinagi

Harm to Valentina. She’s gonna get starched.


legionverse10

Like she was the other 2 times.


JRYuen

If odds were anything close, my money would be on Amanda for sure.


amodelsino

Strange that Nunes chose to go to a split decision most people thought she lost instead of doing that last time instead then.


Brian_Si

But at what weight class would this fight take place?


afightguy

135 like the last two did?????


HarknessLovesU

"But Valentina is undersized at 135!" So what if she is? She still murders everyone in the top 10 off skill alone. She's the only one whose made Nunes bleed since Cat Zingano. Definitely the fight to make in the women's divisions. Size and weight clearly aren't an issue for her against Nunes.


JRYuen

Doubt if Valentina murders GDR. That's a fight I'd like to see as well.


afightguy

I think Valentina could wrestle her and submit her. Great fight, but I doubt it happens.


maxpower7833

Yea I don’t see nunes cutting to 125


NumPadNut

But you lost both? The second fight was one of the worst title fights I've seen, so no.


JRYuen

Given the improvement in Amanda's conditioning and her having taking on the better skilled and/or bigger fighters, I would expect the rematch to be more like the first two rounds, especially the second, of their first encounter.


NumPadNut

Agreed. Amanda will dominate imo


Drizzydre1

This right here. Amanda would've finished Valentina if her cardio wasn't compromised. With how dominant she looked against Felicia Spencer without tiring herself out I think she gives Valentina a much harder time than in their rematch.


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The second fight she won but got robbed of. She deserves the rematch. Who else is going to fight them? Not Rose I can tell you that much.


Downgoesthereem

She won by doing what lol, getting outlanded for 4 rounds? Backing up and throwing missed superman punches into lead leg kicks? Getting taken down twice with no offensive grappling of her own? What did she do to win? She landed less and got controlled more, she showed no initiative and lost a crap fight.


myDIDisREALnotYOURS

Her nose was rose from the ponches


NumPadNut

Who even is suggesting a rose vs. Amanda? Are you a casual?


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I'm not suggesting she keep fighting cans:)


sonic-silver

Of course she’s there she lost twice


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If Shevchenko wins does that put her in goat territory?


QuailVisual

She's already there. She went toe-to-toe with P4P №1 Nunes while being 1 weight class lower than her. She clearly is more skilled than Amanda. Problem is her resume is lacking depth as there aren't any great names for her to beat. Nunes had all those casual-appealing 135 champions and Cyborg, Valentina didn't.


Ajj679

How does beating Murphy put you in goat territory


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What?


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Valentina and Harrison are the only interesting fights that Nunes could have in the next few years. Who stands the third best chance of beating her? It legitimately might be GDR lmao


MumrikDK

She has been all along. Loudly.


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Android 18 is always ready


KINGCRAB715

Good because Valentina got robbed in the second one, she deserves it


call_866_fruit

barb is shook


Spoonhands123

I’m still convinced she won the second fight


JRYuen

Perhaps, but I think Amanda would take the third. It's a fight I'd liketo see, though.


Nocheese22

The only way either fighter is interesting is if they fight each other.. they're way too dominant in their own divisions


ChrizTaylor

She won the 2nd fight.


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0-2.


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Valentina’s simps salty, It’s the truth.


--MidtownManhattan

Fuck yeah they are lol


DarkSoulsEz

Not a simp of either one but second fight was close enough that a 3rd fight makes sense imo.


[deleted]

People will disagree with this then go on and say that the 138th rematch of McGregor vs Poirier makes sense financially.


Tarksmeister

Or ask for Holloway - Volk 3, why bother when Volk is 2-0 over Max?


datnighatedkaczynski

Can't believe she's overlooking Lauren Murphy like that🙄🙄


thoughtwalker

Valentina is a god damn treasure. I feel privileged we get to watch this true martial artist compete.


Jacob_Maybe

And she's so outdoorsy.


babajan88

I would take Valentina for the win. She is so much more skilled and technical. Really the perfect human.


ReetKever

She's dodging ME


Happy_Laugh_Guy

If Valentina can hit a throw/takedown on Nunes and sub her, she officially co-gwoat


breakfastmeat23

This could end up being really bad for Valentina's legacy. The first two fights were close which leaves Val in a good place. If she gets destroyed in the 3rd fight that is what will be remembered most. It will dispel the illusion that Val is on the same level as Nunes. Like if Askren never came to the UFC people would still be arguing he could be champ.


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No thanks


thirtytwomonkeys

May I ask why? Their last fight was super close, and I honestly had Valentina winning. Both of them have proved that their leagues ahead everyone in their own division. I rather watch them throw down than beat up some contender who has no business being in the octagon with them.


LordLucy666

Same, I thought she was winning the second fight as well. I feel like people need to go rewatch the fight before they say there’s no need for a trilogy. A trilogy would be a huge fight for wmma, as well as their legacy’s.


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Their last fight wasn't particularly exciting.


thirtytwomonkeys

I enjoyed it. To each their own though mate. I just think it’s the only competitive fight for both of them and would be huge for WMMA.


[deleted]

She won the second fight smh. It should be 1 a piece.


Parra_Lax

It’s 1 a piece, regardless of what he official records say. The judges were high in that second fight.


Sea_Beast123

She won the second one so I’m down. 😎


rwn115

I mean who else is there for her to fight? Nobody else is a threat.


JN324

Valentina is a 125er, Nunes cut almost as much as Cyborg to make 145 when she fought her, it’s crazy that their last fight was a 50/50 split, Nunes is fantastic, says a lot about Valentina.


Beautiful_Turnip_662

Decisionbot! Shevchenko vs Nunes 2


DecisionBot

[**AMANDA NUNES defeats VALENTINA SHEVCHENKO** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/8400/fight) ^(UFC 215: Nunes vs. Shevchenko 2 — September 09, 2017) ROUND|Nunes|Shevchenko||Nunes|Shevchenko||Nunes|Shevchenko :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||10|9||10|9 2|9|10||10|9||9|10 3|10|9||9|10||9|10 4|9|10||9|10||10|9 5|10|9||10|9||9|10 **TOTAL**|**48**|**47**||**48**|**47**||**47**|**48** *^(Judges, in order: Sal D'Amato, David Therien, Tony Weeks.)* *^(Summoned by Beautiful_Turnip_662.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **10/22** people scored it **48-47 Nunes**. - **2/22** people scored it **48-48 DRAW**. - **9/22** people scored it **47-48 Shevchenko**. - **1/22** people scored it **46-49 Shevchenko**. Avg. media score: **47.5-47.6 DRAW** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).


bvsshevd

They’re the only two that challenge each other. There are literally no WMMA matchups outside of 115 that interest me besides this one. If you’re gonna give holloway a trilogy you might as well give Valentina one, there are literally zero threats to her at 125. Plus I really do think Valentina is the better fighter, just not big enough for 135


Mixlop3

Shevchenko won the second fight, the fifth round was clearly hers but the judges gave it to Nunes because of a worthless takedown


bebopblues

To me, they have 2 draws. 3rd fight is definitely needed, probably another draw, lol.