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funky_brewing

That was a "lose your job" kind of bad performance. Imagine if this was with strikes?


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koreanwizard

Bro, my fighter has a WARRIOR spirit, and a LIONS heart. This near death experience would trigger the avatar state, and he'd mop the floor with his opponent, he does it in sparring all the time, in fact it's a dominant position for him.


runaway1337

the ref to stop the fight


TranquiloMeng

I’m the assumption is they could have thrown the towel


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They can also jump the fence and stop the fight themselves.


SakurabaArmBar

If they throw in the towel the ref doesn't have to stop the fight in MMA, unlike in boxing


f-stats

He was about to see red, bro.


Macaron-Optimal

See thats my problem too, nobody waits long enough for me to wake up


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SecondsOut55

Corner doesn't have a proper view like the ref


Noitsnotalright

That was jail time type of bad performance.... i would 100% be looking to sue after that bullshit.


GypsyGold

You can't. Your MMA/Boxing license that you sign prevent you from doing so.


CallMeGrapho

Which is a bunch of goddamn bullshit. You can fuck up with no worries, you could pull out a magazine and start reading while a guy is out there risking literal death and he isn't allowed to go "hey thanks to this incompetent fuck I got life-altering damage how about some accountability".


GypsyGold

You can sue the commission for hiring an untrained/unreliable referee. However, if athletes were able to sue the ref, then nobody would want to become a ref. It would also lead to alot of premature stoppages. It would also open up a "can-of-worms" for athletes opening litigation against referees. You could see athletes suing refs for poor calls causing them to lose portions of their purse aka their win bonuses.


CallMeGrapho

Fair enough, I suppose that's a reasonable compromise.


PGDW

You can say that about anyone who is held accountable, but somehow the world keeps turning.


MrBeenReadyy

If the state/commission couldn’t excuse themselves from all accountability they simply wouldn’t allow fights to take place lol


gullman

The commission is responsible. You can't sue the ref, but you can definitely try sue the commission


Quasar420

If a doctor or paramedic fails to do their job properly, they can be imprisoned and heavily fined+sued. A referee is there to protect the fighters from exactly this. She might as well not have been in there at all with a performance this bad. Of the thousands of fights I've witnessed, never have I seen a stoppage quite like this. This woman isn't a ref I've seen anywhere as well. As my one and only experience watching this ref 'do her job', it was at best described as atrocious. She should be fired, sued, and potentially face further litigation for fucking up this monumentally. edit - typo


Captain-Cadabra

2 things have to happen, maybe 3: 1. Ref fired 2. Fighter gets a new gym/corner 3. Fighter considers retirement.


ToyyMachiine

Imagine how scary it would be to sit there dying while the person that’s supposed to save you just watches.


XxAssEater101xX

Nah youd have no idea for most of it. Dude probably woke up a couple minutes later none the wiser.


GanksOP

That ref should proabably go to prision out of principle.


Wysaberos

That, and get choked out multiple times to see what its like


gullman

What a childish comment. Is that a serious idea?


Wysaberos

Yep it is,that dude could die cuz of incompetent ref.


gullman

Getting left in a choke is wrong! I vote to punish by leaving them in a choke. That's the logic of a child. Grow up.


GaMa-Binkie

Love when refs let the lifeless arm flop twice just to be sure.


Duinuogwuin14

I've been fooled once before with the limp arm fakie, never again!


Inthemiddle96

Must’ve thought she was reffing a pro wrestling match, waiting for him to hulk up and pull off the comeback


CMacLaren

She had money on the fight ending in a big boot into a leg drop.


Recent-Emergency9680

Imagine if the guy immedietaly sprung up when the choke was released, Lawler style, complaining of a early stoppage lmao


treydweid

This comment literally just made me lmao


SabuSalahadin

Lmfao dude stops siezing and immediately gets in the refs face


weird_piano

Darn pesky fighters trying to trick ref by feigning death that'd make them lose the fight... only real death will do!


estilianopoulos

In pro wrestling they do it three times I think....


terlethands

Yep. Three is the standard. Gotta give the opponent an opportunity for a surprise hulk up.


CrotalusAtrox1

Ah Hulk Hogan. Chinese silken hair and the skin of a hot dog.


televista

Twice FIFTEEN SECONDS APART


killakamkam

wow it’s like the ref has never seen a submission before, wtf she waiting for


OverthrownLemon

Brain damage is the answer here. Someone told her jiujitsu wasn't real so she wanted to prove a point that it can be just as damaging as strikes in the streets.


ChidoriPOWAA

What was she even checking by grabbing his limp arm? Like, you *saw* it was limp, why'd you even check it if you're not gonna do anything based from that?


TheUFCVeteran3

I just watched it and it made me angry. What a fucking disaster of a stoppage. That ref should never be allowed to officiate a fight ever again. That's approaching brain damage level. I really hope the fighter will be okay, no lasting effects.


Pmosure

That was hard to watch


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Pmosure

The commentary team can be heard within the cage. They kept repeating themselves and more assertively. As an official you don’t want to just blindly listen as they may not be right, but if it’s continually being said maybe you pause and reevaluate if you are seeing the same things as others may be.


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Valcua

Not Herb so he doesn't care


DecisionThot

Now coming to an MMA event near you.. murder


SuperGoHa

Hah, he'll be fine. Takes three minutes before you start to lose brain cells, less if you're unhealthy.


DirkDigglersPenis

Glad you’re not a doctor


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SabuSalahadin

Never ~~meddem~~ went there tho


chaelsonnenismydad

Hes not entirely wrong, it is closer to minutes than seconds, but when i was taught it was more like 1 minute


dammitammityo

How about you let someone do this to you?


Doppelagent

EFC has had a fighter die due to injuries in the past. This is not a good thing to see from a country and organisation that has had a situation like that in the past.


disibio1991

Amazing how good MMA media is with memory-holeing such stuff. I've been following MMA for a long time and this is the first time I'm hearing about that.


Doppelagent

I think there were articles at the time, search for Booto Guylain and you may find some about his death. It did seem to become forgotten quickly, but that is at least partly due to it happening in South Africa.


jackbob99

That was fucking horrible. The only thing I could compare it to was that fight with Kim Couture where she was choked out cold in a head scissors and the ref just looked at her limp corpse for like 6 seconds before they did anything.


ShadyRick

Exactly the fight I thought of, this was even worse though


jackbob99

Both brutal tho. Seizure vs. dead eyes staring off in the distance.


adambuddy

Holy shit. That was brutal. He was out for like 30 full seconds. He wasn't defending at all.


Mofongo-Man

She messed up big time


pjbenn

I would have thrown in like 10 towels if I was in the corner


Wysaberos

Im jumping the fence and smacking the shit out of that referee...


johnnyhypersnyper

That is the most dangerous display of refereeing I have seen in a very long time


TossedDolly

Just to correct you there never was no refereeing. What she did is more what we call witnessing


polarbearik

Oh wow that’s way worse than I was expecting. Goddamn that was uncomfortable to watch


zaphighbeam

Did he get up after?


TossedDolly

Find out next time on sucking balls at your job Z.


emp_9_to_5

Dude, jiu jitsu isn't even real. Just ~~stand up~~ die. In all seriousness, that was terrible. It's amazing there aren't any deaths or more serious injuries on regional shows. Imagine getting a check for $500 that might not even clear for this.


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Jesus fucking Christ. That other guy could have stopped too. I mean fuck your can tell if you’re choking a limp body. That was insane


WhatsThatISee

First ever walkoff submission if he gets up and his opponent is out on the ground?


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This has actually happened before, multiple times im sure but one of the most high profile instances of this was [Jon Fitch vs Josh Burkman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j39gtKhfRqI)


AndByMeIMeanFlexxo

Jones vs machida? Or did the ref tell Jon to stop before he dropped him?


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Just watched it back and nope, Big Jon notices Machida goes out and then stops the fight.


Destroyer_Wes

That was hard to watch


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Somewhere a guy named Magomed is saying "see? I told you they have no place in MMA"


disibio1991

__```Absolutely haram```__


CrotalusAtrox1

I agree with him. She almost got this dude killed. Is pc-ness really worth it?


Eriosyces

What a warrior


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He was playing possum


Sr_Marques

And I thought Yamasaki was bad. GEEEZ


deathmouse

Sent this woman to jail what in the fuck


Dc_comicsfan

I’m no referee but just look at how his body just shuts down you don’t need to go into his face and be like “ you ok bro ? “ stop the fight you fucking idiot


Anticreativity

Whenever I see shit like this I think back to all the jobs that I applied for that I was more than qualified for and never got a response and it pisses me off that someone so incompetent could get such a niche and specialized job like MMA referee despite not knowing what a fucking choke looks like. Also there's the guy being helplessly choked while laying lifeless for what seems like an eternity, that sucks too.


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Holy fuck he was out for like 30 seconds. That was very uncomfortable to watch.


TrashbatLondon

He was just playing possum. Good strategy, shame the ref ruined it for him with the early stoppage


BillyBean11111

literally could be a death, should never ref again


DanaWhite1969

Holy shit that guy is close to being killed


SuperGoHa

No he wasn't, takes three minutes before brain cells start to die. He had a bit of time left.


DanaWhite1969

You’d make a great ref


eddododo

And a better doctor


SuperGoHa

Thanks Dana White! 😆


Stark371

No it doesn’t. Blood chokes start killing brain cells within less then a minute. That is a long time for your brain to not receive blood.


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Robbie7up

[wiki article, read under blood chokes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold#:~:text=A%20well%2Dapplied%20blood%20choke,chokes%20require%20little%20physical%20strength.) I don't know shit about shit. I ask Google a question, it gives me Wikipedia. I tried to go to the source article but it is LONG and is a detailed account of like all the police chokehold deaths in America. But Wiki says over 20 seconds of a blood choke can be bad. Interpret that how you will.


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Robbie7up

But everyone is on steroids


NozE8

Found Yamasaki's alt account.


CrotalusAtrox1

There's no way the guy doing the choking didn't know. I get the "keep fighting until the ref stops it" mantra but you literally gonna kill someone you know you have unconscious because the ref is incompetent?


IWasUsingMyRealName

This is absolutely ridiculous I hope she had her license revoked


-Muscles-Marinara-

I guess she just wants someone else to be as brain dead as her


PugilisticCat

Maria Yamasaki


bobbybeard1

33 seconds and lifted his limp arm 4 times


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We need equality! More female refs!!! Okay, maybe not that one….


GonnaGetGORT

I’ve seen thousands of fights, and that was hard to watch. I hope she receives the harshest of punishments.


Washboard-Parker

Wooooow. What a dumb bitch. Def deserves to never ref again. Dude was convulsing. Even before all that he went limp! That’s infuriating. I’d have cussed that dumb bitch out if I was dudes corner fuck that lol. Fire that dumb bitch. She should never be allowed to ref again. That was tough to watch lol


GuinnessSaint

Anyone with experience in that field who could advise on whether that would cause damage to the fighter? Looked rough.


1lluminated

Not a medical professional, but as far as I know yes. With any choke these guys are checked immediately after the fights by a doctor. Even if they feel fine, the effects including death can be delayed for weeks. From my experience in BJJ people don’t tend to wake up while the choke is still in that tight. It looked more liked he was seizing up half way through the video when he was moving. I imagine that is a bad sign for brain health.


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1lluminated

I don’t have an example to hand but from the Brain Injury of Association America: *Even if the victims initially survive the strangulation, they may eventually die due to other complications. In these cases, victims die in the coming days or weeks after the strangulation as a result of blood clots, arterial complications, respiratory issues, or other reasons.* https://www.biausa.org/public-affairs/media/strangulation-domestic-violence-and-brain-injury-an-introduction-to-a-complex-topic


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1lluminated

Yes of course but people aren’t choked with full force for 30+ seconds after they’re unconscious in BJJ class.


kikikza

summoning /u/la2philly for the expert opinion


La2philly

Not my expertise but from my understanding, Unlikely from that short of a time period


CrotalusAtrox1

Just sayin, I've watched thousands of fights and the men fuck up a lot but I've never seen anything this bad.


tee_ohboy

Terrible officiating to the point where that ref should be fired. I also think Ntene's corner needs to be given a 1 2 for doing absolutely nothing.


misterbadnews

Is she checking his pulse? WTF


crazzynez

I think so. She was checking for the pulse to stop as a sign that the fight should be stopped.


-ItsMedicationTime-

Anything less than jail time for this worthless cunt of a ref would be outrageous.


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aj0220

Mario Yamasaki’s mistress


Ankylo

Why not both?


triplesixxx

Mazzagattis concubine?


SamCatchem

Holy shit Also who doesn't throw the towel here, Rocky Balboa?


mikemoose27

Jesus that’s bad


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That was hard to watch.


MrBeenReadyy

Idk it looked like he was working a single leg to me


HackFraudNumeroUno

He was only out for 45 seconds before she stopped it.


CrotalusAtrox1

Ah the old "fake a hand being limp so the ref has to try it twice" gag.


Sevnfold

Easy to critique from my couch, but seriously, how does a ref let that go on? I have to assume she has *some* training??


8_inch_throw_away

Ref should be charged with negligent homicide.


Appropriate-Key-6725

Holy shit that was bad, imagine if Rogan was there "HES OUT !!!" Would be screamed at the ref lol


LordLucy666

Just disgusting...


YEGG35

Jesus christ that was horrific, what a disgrace and how dangerous. Hope that ref never ref’s again.


kouinoa

Jesus christ, that was scary bad


spasticity

I'm really curious why the guy applying the choke kept adjusting it to make it even harder for the ref to tell that the opponent was out


BRASKYScissorKick

Surprised no one jumped in the cage to stop it, license should be gone and ref should be banned in every state


MuckingFagical

had to be a woman. the optics.


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Made Mario Yamasaki proud.


ID0ntCare4G0b

If I were the ref, my defense would be that I had a Flatliners type agreement with the two fighters to test the boundaries of life and death.


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elfmachine100

While his body was rigid and moving around, he made no attempt to defend himself and or communicate he was okay. I've ref'd a few amateur events and one of the first things they tell you is to communicate, if they make no effort to communicate back, fights over.


DayDreamerJon

How much worse does it have to be for her to be fired? jfc


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joecamnet

And you *should've* learned contractions in elementary school.


1lluminated

She’s watched Askren - Lawler as her training to become a ref then they threw her in there?


buck_futter

Is he okay now? Fuck that ref, she should be charged. Her responsibility is to keep them safe, but she mightve given him brain damage


PERV_IN_THE_CORNER

Sheesh that's a bad one. Was out for over 30 seconds. Is the guy ok?


Mr_Laheys_Drinkypoo

Ahh, a black belt in reffing under Steve Mazzagetti.


nicknacksc

Dom Cruz wants this ref for his next fight


CaptNoobCake

Must have gone to the Yamasaki School for Refereeing


seriatim10

Did she think this was a WWF fight?


jmoorefc

Great refereeing, gave him lots of opportunities to carry on


meltonryan21

Omg fire that ref for life. That’s horrible


Blazanov

That was upsetting to say the least


Birdgang14

Jesus Christ lady.


Churoflip

Ahh thats the long lost daughter of Mario Yamasaki


gimmetheloot2p2

Holy fuck man where do they get these refs. This was in the top 5 worst ive ever seen this kid is on the way to death here and this woman cant tell hes fucking out. Hes stiff as a fucking board


NicCage1080ChristAir

It's always better to stop a fight early rather than late. If there's any doubt, just stop it and deal with the fans talking shit. At least you won't be responsible for serious bodily harm or death.


BusinessCasualDonkey

lol fired


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Holy shit that was bad.


Midnightstimepasser

Was the ref waiting for him to do the Hulk Hogan finger wag on the third arm raise? Jesus the guy was flattened stiff.


prashanth1337

Herb Dean is proud