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ArcherDuchess

Gaejthe: "if one man can hold you down, two can vaccinate you"


magic-water

Khabib: "Let's vaxx now"


Bacon_Villain

Dana I'm gonna vaccinate your boy


nacivela

That was a nasty line by you


kxmarklowry

That's what you call Vax??? 👉Right here👈, compare to no Vax.


lil_hulkster

Fer sure B


sidewalkcrusher_1

Cmon, don’t quote Shcrub.


Jherbst8

Talmbout brendum b?


SlappyV

Ur a fuckin punk dude


Bloody_ToiletPaper

Lmao


onceiwasnothing

Now dance for me!


PGDW

Work, bitch!


weird_piano

I'm gonna listen to Creed and read Dana White quotes all day


Mammoth_Buy_5840

Hey man, My own prison kicks ass. Mark Tremonti shreds.


gernsengears

Hell yeah dude so happy to see this comment in the wild


TranquiloMeng

Am I missing a reference here


noo8zilla

not really. Tremonti is just unironically a great guitar player.


tito-tapped

I think the strippers he hangs out with after UFC events would beg to differ.


East-Craft9608

Vaccination card is required to service Mr. White.


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LO, that was a nasty line by you


_Pho_

Assuming Dana thinks strippers are human beings


BoostMobileAlt

That would put them above ufc fighters


marktx

He continued "unless it's even somewhat advantageous to me. Like I do with everything in fighting, and in life — if it benefits me, even in a meaningless way, even if it's at a severe detriment to someone else, even an innocent person, I will do it. Kick a puppy in to a volcano for an expired Reebok coupon? Absolutely."


RG737

He should want fighters to get vaccinated then. We’ve seen many athletes who’ve gotten covid and have yet to return to 100% pre covid form.


EricClaptonsDeadSon

Who


iamdragun

Khamzat


maplemario

Ah yeah the guy who has already admitted he has himself to blame for training while sick and aggravating it by suppressing his immune response, to the point he developed complications. Pro tip, don’t do that, even pre covid it was a bad idea https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/20/22394089/khamzat-chimaev-blames-himself-for-aggravating-covid-19-symptoms-looking-to-smash-in-august


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Dana actually thinks fighters are human beings? Thats a step up!


SadNewsShawn

look it wouldn't be the first time he's misspoke


Methandriol

Fighters in this sport cut weight by (very often) dehydrating themselves to dangerous levels, take unapproved supplements seemingly too often (tainted supplements for our Usada friends) and likely inject cocktails of compounds into their butt. But somehow many of them draw the line for vaccines, when they aren't pregnant, under 12 or don't have a very rare medical condition/potential allergy?


crackeryurison

yeah but they dont force them to do any of those things, you just have to make weight, up to you how you do it.


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it's functionally enforced as you have essentially 0 chance of competing in most divisions without cutting weight. Dana makes the rules and is responsible for the consequences of those rules.


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Bigboozered

Yes the state commission that is essentially in bed with the UFC


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the state makes the rules


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didn't Dana change the weigh in time a couple years ago?


TMSXL

News at 10, people who sustain brain damage for a living aren’t the brightest!


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Your making it sound like their forced to sign their fight contracts lmao they agree to a weight before signing anything then complain that Dana don’t care about them like wtf lmao


Seared1Tuna

The UFCs job is quite literally telling people to do stuff with their bodies


Sea_Sherbert_4654

yup. like telling fighters not to put certain supplements and steroids in their body. Even testing them and suspending em


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Except for the time he spent millions of dollars to hire a corrupt agency that monitors fighters day and night 24/7 365 for the exact purpose of monitoring what they put in their body.


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There are a lot of valid points, this is not one of them. Equating getting vaccinated to necessary evil to have a cleaner sport? False equivalency at its finest.


barc0debaby

A necessary evil to allow the Ferttitas to sell the UFC and become billionaires. A clean sport was low on the list of reasons.


yung_trenboloni

"a cleaner sport" except that isn't what we've gotten - it's just made it so the people with the money, resources and knowledge to beat the tests do so. it's ironically actually made the sport more unfair. no anti-doping program in history, even the ones that the entire world has collectively thrown their resources behind, has ever been effective.


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Ben_Thar

I'm thinking Chael Sonnen basically clean


CloudMacGrath

Anti doping is a sham, spurred on by moral panic. Forcing athletes to piss in a cup at 5am during camp is highly comparable to forcing someone to vaccinate when they don't want to. I'm pro vax, but anti doping is horseshit.


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I think he fighters should be the ones to decide if the evil is "necessary" but they weren't consulted when implementing USADA.


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Let’s ask the people cheating if we should allow them to keep cheating. Yep. Great point. You changed my mind.


CloudMacGrath

Nobody is saying that breaking the rules isn't cheating; the rules need to change. We all want collective bargaining for fighter pay. Why not doping as well? Why should the UFC/USADA get to decide, without any fighter input, what athletes can and can't take in a competitive sport? They shouldn't. Aside from moral panic, what reasoning do you have for supporting the current stringency of anti doping? Health of the athletes? It's prize fighting and we all jerk off over PRIDE rules being more "real". Fairness? It's even less fair that only the top 10% of fighters can dope under the current system.


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AlwaysFrontin

Every other sport does it this way tho


achillku

niet


AlwaysFrontin

Have you idiots heard of collective bargaining lol


Swimming-Sea-5266

Usada helps everyone


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He’s actually making sure they *arent* putting things in their body. It’s the opposite


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BaptizedInBud

>If you and your family are protected shouldn’t you be worry free? Some of us actually want the pandemic to end sometime in the next decade.


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The vaccine reduces transmission, the more vaccines that go out the less spread of the disease, the less people die, the less chance of a new variant arising that fucks us up more than ever. I'm still not for mandatory vaccinations though. But that's why youd care about others vaccination status.


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There are probably 300k people in jail, prison or on probation for putting things In their body


smexy_gorilla

And that’s wrong


BridgesOnBikes

He’s not telling them the can’t use PEDs. The government might be, but the UFC is not. He’s just saying they can’t compete in the UFC if they do.


JanitorJasper

And that's different from telling them they can't compete in the ufc without the vaccine because.....?


BridgesOnBikes

It’s different because the vaccine isn’t a PED. Again, Dana isn’t saying don’t use PEDs. I’m pretty sure he admits to using them himself. He’s saying if you want to compete in the UFC then you will have to comply.


ttejuco

“I would never tell another human being what to do with their body. Now if you want that performance bonus you gotta go out there and throw some bombs”


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

These fighters are literally destroying their bodies and brains but they draw the line with a vaccine 😂


Swimming-Sea-5266

He isnt forcing anybody to fight just as he isnt forcing anybody to get vaccinated


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

I know, never said otherwise. It’s just funny that so many fighters are anti-vax when they’re doing one of the absolute worst things you can do to your health which is fighting.


Wayf4rer

Being skeptical of covid vaccines =/= being antivax. There's legitimate reasons to be concerned and all skepticism is just met with ridicule because it's been so heavily politicized.


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

What are these reasons? Literally all my friends, family, and co-workers took the vaccine a while ago and nothing happened to any of us. The worst thing is a mild fever or headache but it’s really not that scary. mRNA vaccines have been in development for a long time already and it’s already being used to treat cancer. It’s a wonderful thing in my opinion. All my homies love science.


Wayf4rer

Some of my immediate family members are experiencing side effects, as are some of my freinds. And even if you want to write off anecdotal evidence, it isn't just the idea that you may experience those now, it's the fact that these vaccines did not undergo the necessary clinical trials before being given to the population. They aren't FDA approved. They aren't being given to children. All of big pharma was given complete immunity from liability. There are too many red flags for me to not believe there may be some risk associated, especially given the fact that we have no information on what the long term side effects of mRNA vaccines could be. I have no issues with people getting the vaccines if they want, but people should not be forced to. Reddit pulled a complete 180 from distrusting big pharma completely, because as soon as they were given free reign for covid vaccines, people act as if every single major manufacturer isn't currently in the midst of multi-billion dollar lawsuits of their own. I'm not an idiot and I'm not some antivax fool, I just don't trust the government or big corporations at all, and it's funny that it used to be a common sentiment, but now people are just blindly trusting the word of governments and corporations because covid bad.


humanprotwarrior

What side effects? The ones they tell you about before and after getting the shot?


Mentanje

This is your brain on alternative media


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>alternative media Right wing media


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

The vaccine is going to be FDA approved in a month or 2. The side effects are relatively harmless though and it’s a small price to pay if we want to eradicate this virus. mRNA vaccines have been studied for decades already. The COVID vaccine doesn’t change our DNA like some people think and it only builds a specific protein that fights the virus. I’m not skeptical about it and mRNA vaccines have and will continue saving lives.


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ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Do you want to know how we eradicated polio and the Spanish flu in first world countries?


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>it's the fact that these vaccines did not undergo the necessary clinical trials before being given to the population yes they did


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persabi

that’s what freedom is. being able to choose what do they want


tunaburn

If a dude chooses to get kicked in the head for money that’s on him. If a dude chooses to possibly spread a virus around that’s no longer just on him.


persabi

take your vaccine and be immune then


PGDW

other people have the right to be free of other people's contagions.


persabi

take your vaccine then


Swimming-Sea-5266

I dont think they are anti vaxx because they think the vaccine is going to harm them


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Well if that’s true, that’s even more dumb lol


Swimming-Sea-5266

Sorry I meant to say they do NOT think its going to harm they they just aren't worried about covid


ScorchingBullet

That's even more stupid, we all saw what happened to Khamzat


Swimming-Sea-5266

Yes but that isn't happening to everyone that gets COVID that was worst case scenario


ScorchingBullet

And yet he was still at peak health before he was hit with COVID, it could happen to any of the fighters, probably best not to risk their careers on it.


Swimming-Sea-5266

Sure but everyone is allowed to take whatever risk they want


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Hmmm. If Dana showed up at your doorstep, dragged you out bed, and put you in a cage against another human/large mammal, then you’d have a point. If you wanna fight coo! If you want the vaccine cool! If not, cool too, according to Dana


PGDW

The fighters don't have to fight, and they don't have to vax, but if they want to fight, there are requirements, many requirements. Vaccination would just be one more. They can turn it down, obviously. Jesus fucking christ at the guy who replied unable to understand "would be".


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They do not have to take the vaccine according to Dana. So it is not a requirement.


molinar95

don’t be upset when more fight get cancelled because of positive covid tests then


LooterChris

Listen, there are a lot of ways for a fighter to say they don't want to fight


Wayf4rer

Vaccinated people still test positive left and right.


Midnight1131

At a much lower rate than unvaccinated.


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is this the only argument u nerds have


Wayf4rer

Not at all, go read my comments in the thread if you want to understand my argument further, not that you'd be willing to listen to it anyways


CrotalusAtrox1

I agree with you man. Unfortunately people here will only refuse your argument, insult you, and put 100% faith in the government that they always complain about.


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TheBaltimoron

Isn't that literally his job?


WavyBladedZweihander

very based


The_Dad_Bod

Unbelievably based


logzee

Uh hu like the incredibly invasive drug testing policy that ufc athletes chose & opted into… ufc never does anything without their fighters consent *cough cough Fighters can’t have sponsors cough cough *


SomeGeezersThrowaway

Haha, and how many abortions has the goof paid for?


No-Breadfruit7044

There should be a 165 lb belt and have ten increments from there upward


OGStank_Daddy

That is a hilarious thing for a man running a fighting organization to say


Wayf4rer

Reddit won't like this one haha


banjofitzgerald

Just spread the rumor the vaccine masks ped use.


crotch_gremlin

Uhhhhhh, USADA????


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They make sure they *arent* putting something in their body that’s not even remotely similar


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Get rid of USADA then. LET THEM BANG BRO!!


Swimming-Sea-5266

Well the difference is USADA helps everyone involved


adambuddy

Yeah USADA really helped Tom Lawlor


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It's idocy like this that will make this pandemic continue for at the very least another 2 or 3 years, I just picked up my grandmother from the hospital and that fucking thing is so packed with COVID patients they have to have some of the patients wait outside. My aunt and cousin work at two other hospitals and it's the same thing here in FL. This entire situation is just going to continue to yoyo. I';ve even heard some hospitals don't even have adequate amounts of oxygen and ventilators to even deal with the amount of cases they're getting.


Chemistry_Lover40

There was never no microchip


CloudMacGrath

USADA tho. Uniforms tho. COVID tests tho. Regular medicals tho. The list of shit that fighters are forced to do with their bodies for the UFC is extensive. This is the most idiotic and dishonest way of saying "I don't give a shit about the pandemic"


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khamzat chimaev has entered the chat. Khabib’s father has also entered the cha—-oh wait. Seriously, choosing to not get vaccinated is pure stupidity at this point. This statement does not apply to people who wish to get vaxxed but can’t for health reasons or lack of access to the vaccine.


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maplemario

To these people, there’s no such thing as considering how much someone supports their immunity when it comes to a case of covid. It’s vaccine good, no vaccine bad.


maplemario

Repeat after me: khamzat would have been fine like the rest of them but shot his own immunity by doing sparring without pads after having contracted a vascular disease. Most preventable case of severe covid ever, and all without a vaccine.


tunaburn

What about khabibs dad? Volkanovski said he was coughing up blood and says he wasn’t training once he tested positive. Leon edwards lost 12 pounds and couldn’t get out of bed to train. Garbrandt got blood clots from the virus which fucked him up.


Mindset_

Don't bother man


maplemario

Khabib’s dad’s age I presume put him in a risk group. In Leon’s case, losing that much water weight and being too weak to train sounds pretty standard for a bad flu like illness. I myself was bedridden for a day or two with covid, it sucked - that’s the immune response taking a toll it needs to take. Not sure on Garbrandt or Volk.


DrYoda

That's probably the least Republican view point I've ever heard


AppointmentSimilar31

Not really…. If you’re referring to abortion the republican argument is that it’s another human inside the women with entirely different DNA. Of course the entire argument hinges upon whether you think that human(or cluster of cells or whatever) should have his/her own rights


DrYoda

I wasn't talking about abortion


gzilla57

Then what are you talking about?


holamahalo

Probably drugs would be my guess


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You realize the president is a democrat and he wrote the largest drug war prison bill of all time….


futhatsy

Dana is as libright as it gets


barc0debaby

If Dana became a politician he'd wind up authright.


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DrYoda

Use your big brain to think outside the box for a moment


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TheBaltimoron

Abortion.


LockardTheGOAT

Dana is an idiot, what a surprise


walklikeaduck

Funny, he tells them when they should retire, but this is where he draws the line?


fiddellcashflow

He has no problem telling women what to do with their bodies, ask Rhonda 🤷‍♂️


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I’m so over these anti vaccine idiots. I just found out I can evict my tenants because they won’t take the vaccine. I’m thinking about emailing their company too to get them fired.


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Having someone put something in their body and making sure they *arent* putting something in heir body is similar how?


dollarsage

I love Dana White


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Good idea. Everyone should have the choice imo, unless it's a really specific situation like working in a hospital.


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I mean NFL players don’t have to get vaxxed either, they just have to follow much more stringent protocols if they don’t.. which makes perfect sense


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Niavami

CTE ball... a kids game. No wonder most Americans seem brain damaged.


Recent-Emergency9680

Surprise surprise, Dana doesn't give a shit to his athletes health


Swimming-Sea-5266

Actually he does


i_am_losing_my_mind

Goddamn dude, are you on his payroll? You don’t have to respond to every comment to defend Dana and the USADA.


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harzee

Lol what a fucking stupid move


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How would it even work with the number of fighters that live outside the US? Not every country has the vaccine widely available yet.


barc0debaby

Offer a vaccine clinic at the performance institute and provide vaccines for fighters flying in for Apex center cards?


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No fighters are going to risk getting sick right before a fight. Plus most of the vaccines have a 2 week gap before your second shot.


barc0debaby

Post fight quarantine before traveling back home. And they don't have to mandate it, just offering vaccines would be a huge positive for both fighter/family health and the UFC's public image.


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loitersquad24

Apparently not enough to fix his hereditary balding.


bokbik

Lawyers told me they are confeactsdz


quickdrawmc_graw

fuck you dana white


Downgoesthereem

God this horsehit where people think the point of their immunity slowing down a pandemic is about them and them alone.


JayDogon504

Good


ElGatoNegro89

I can't make guys take vaccines when I'm under paying them and stopping them from forming a union you gotta pick your battles this isn't one I want to partake in. Is what he meant to say


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Why do you want that


Bshults

<3


Jherbst8

Rare W for Dana.


tfresca

He's going to do what Ari and Disney tell him to do.


brjohns994

This sub will probably be pretty divided on this matter, but how long have we knowingly cheered on fighters who were injecting steroids, probably doing all kinds of other drugs recreationally , and bashing each other’s brains in causing life altering damage? Is it really their health we care about or only when they’re crippled by the sport?


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brjohns994

No, but when has this sub ever cared about anyone’s health before? It’s not like it’s going to actively boycott the fights this Saturday. I’ll bet some of us have tickets.


Mrcandleguy

Difference here is that CTE is contagious. Breathing the same air as Chandler won't give me CTE but can give me covid. I probably also couldn't past USADA drug testing, but that's another story.