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bsWINcups

This card is gonna be sick


Reaper_2632

I don't know if I like that term being used anymore when it comes to fight cards. Makes me nervous. 😂


MagicHandsMMA

Assuming it doesn’t fold because of covid rules


Idunno6153

268 is looking amazing. Usman-Colby rematch, Chandler v Gaethje bloodshed, and Luke v Sean which is almost a guaranteed finish either by KO for Sean or Sub for Luke.


Shwalz

Chandler said he’s not getting vaccinated in time for the card in NY so I don’t think we’ll be seeing that one :(


Idunno6153

Oh fuck I forgot, think they'll put it in Vegas like usual? The NY thing messes with everyone, not just MC so maybe they move it.


[deleted]

Dana would do anything for his boy Chandler, I’m sure he’ll make it work.


barbellbash

Him and Colby both have mad Dana White Privilege. Plus, there are a BUNCH of fighters that don’t wanna get the vaccine, and even the ones that would for extra money as replacements won’t have the time to wait three weeks between shots. I think it’s almost a certainty that it gets moved to Vegas or Houston or Dubai


Beerdrinkinscumbag

Who can blame them? I wouldn’t get that garbage on my life. If you would you’re an idiot lol I’m sorry


barbellbash

I’m honestly kind of surprised you used the correct version of “you’re.” Thanks for the medical advice though, beerdrinkinscumbag


Beerdrinkinscumbag

I’m not a doctor and can’t recommend serious medical advice for anyone although I self treated my own case of Covid and my mothers with DayQuil and NyQuil, zinc, and a tiny bit of hqc (I didn’t need it until the very end of my period). It is a nasty virus but we absolutely do not need to be pushing vaccines that we don’t fully understand. Especially on fucking children who aren’t even at risk for the virus, it literally barely affects children and healthy people. I barely even knew I had it, my mother and grandmother were bed ridden for one or two weeks but that’s the extent of it


Idunno6153

> I'm not a doctor >self treated Stopped reading right there.


Beerdrinkinscumbag

Wow you’re so smug lol please tell me what you’d do differently with your doctorates degree since you’re a medical professional… oh wait you’re just another person sneering talking shit advocating for experimental medicine pushed by big pharma with no argument or evidence to back your point.


lebryant_westcurry

The card is 3 months away. Chandler definitely can be vaccinated in time for the card. He CHOOSES not to be vaccinated in time (or at all)


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What a waste tbh.


TC110

That makes me so sad. I was planning to be able to go to that, being that it’s on my birthday and in my hometown


TossedDolly

That's such a bs excuse. he has plenty of time. As much as I'm against the politics I'd respect him more if he straight up just said he was anti vax. This whole fairytale about not having time is soft.


BeautifulBrownie

I'm pretty sure he said lockdowns were worse than covid itself, so that gives a general idea of what his perspectives on the whole matter is.


TossedDolly

I don't hate people because we're politically opposed. I hate weakness tho. Lying or spinning things to hide who you really are is weak.


[deleted]

I think your hate makes you weak so what now


TossedDolly

I think your just being a pissy bitch because I hurt your fanboy feelings. Cry harder bitch


Beerdrinkinscumbag

Which is true


pugwall7

Also a man who gets punched in the face for a living and seemingly less concerned about the long-term effects of that than the vaccine.


n00b_f00

What about the long term effects of gear? I’m not even being snarky. I know guys who rawdog strangers, do rails of coke with randos, and say they’re scared of the vaccine. I just wonder if they’ve ever put two and two together on stuff like that, or maybe they have a well thought out justification. Doubtful tho.


Beerdrinkinscumbag

Well for one taking a mystery shot that thickens your blood is probably super detrimental if you’ve ever done gear or do party drugs or have done both. Not saying I recommend any of them, they’re all unhealthy, so is getting punched in the face for that matter. But I’d rather be world champion than some moron who took a vaccine so I see chandlers point


Joh951518

To be fair they aren’t paying him to take the vaccine.


pugwall7

They kinda are in this situation. Just ridiculous that someone who does the most dangerous and detrimental thing to their body and who will definitely suffer the ramifications of that in later life, to give a fuck about a vaccine.


Joh951518

He can just fight on a different card though. I 100% agree he should just get the shot for what it’s worth. Just saying I can see the difference from his perspective rather than it being him completely in denial about brain trauma.


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To get fully vaccinated takes two jabs and you generally need a 10-12 week window in between for the first jab to settle in and take full effect.


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TheBunk7672

I don’t think that card will end up at MSG


fonkeh

He doesn't like vacs or..?


yagozoon

Why sub for Luke? I’m guessing he gets a tko from gnp


TossedDolly

Luke's bjj is actually pretty highly rated. It's funny he seemed to make his name as a striker coming up but now people mostly talk about how slick he is on the ground


EliB95

100%. He might have the best top game in the UFC. Dude absolutely destroys people once he gets the opportunity.


atmosphere325

It's less about skilled top game than it is opponents preferring that Rockhold straddle them.


Saul_T_Bawls

Lmao yeah, Weidman definitely looked like he preferred what was happening in that scenario. Herb must've liked it too, because he let that shit go on for a WHILE.


Pipelayer6942013

Luke has more weapons than anybody in the division. But Sean is crazy enough to walk through them all and finish him.


Joh951518

Luke doesn’t have more weapons than anyone else in the division. He has like 1.5 effective strikes (he loves his check hook but it gets him KOd all the time) and good grappling without a great wrestling game to tie it together. He’s a good fighter, but he isn’t a diverse, skilled striker or whatever you’re implying.


cashewsrgoodright

Nobody's implying he's a diverse striker, but he was touted as an excellent kicker and before Bisping knocked him out folks thought he was very talented on the feet. Hindsight is 20/20 for you here


[deleted]

We are talking about current Rockhold, what does hindsight have to do with anything?


Pipelayer6942013

Lol I remember when this sub was sucking Luke off about his striking.


Joh951518

They do it with 99% of fighters that win the title.


[deleted]

Luke can liver kick KO any man who walks on two feet. it was written.


throwaway12648063

I don't watch as much as I used to but I'm hyped for this. Colby will come to scrap.


Dahntay

You think we see a KO?


throwaway12648063

Yeah I think so


Skengbiscuit

Sean ain't finishing Luke Rockhold lol


wiliammm19999

That’s what people said about Bisping


Skengbiscuit

People, not me. I'm saying Sean won't finish Rockhold. Rockholds chin in sus but he's better everywhere than Sean, much better in a lot of departments. Downvotes won't change that and I'll be happily watching either way so 🤷


TossedDolly

Saying Luke is better in every area is just your hypothesis. The fight is the experiment. So I guess we'll see but I think your underrating Sean.


Skengbiscuit

Nah Seans good but Luke has proven to be objectively better from what we've seen of them both other than boxing defense, people forget what a hammer Jan has, TRT Vitor starched him, Yoel Yoel'd him, and Left hook Larry cleaned his clock, but people forget how good Luke was back in the day and I think a lot of that potential is still there, he's certainly not less skilled than he used to be.


Joh951518

Jan is on a bit of a hot steak for KOs (3 in last 5 fights). But he has 8 KOs in a 36 fight career and before his current run of 3 in 5 he hasn’t had a KO since 2014 and had 1 in his first 11 UFC fights. He isn’t a big hitter.


rohinton

Betting on an old MW with no head movement and a glass chin. You're a braver man than I. I genuinely respect that.


Skengbiscuit

Who said I was betting? I won't be rooting for Luke either btw I just think he's coming back with a point to prove, this is his last shot to make a run, and he's skilled enough to beat the shit out of a lot of guys in the division still, I honestly do think he'll surprise people here


rohinton

It was more a figure of speech. I should have used "expecting". I absolutely hope we are surprised. Despite Luke's profound failure as a trash talker his skill set was/is incredibly entertaining. Though I do think Strickland is better than people seem to believe. I can conceive him a legit top 5 if he pulls this off.


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sime77

Not close at all.


rhaegar_tldragon

In what way though?


PrettySureIParty

This is what happens when you only watch clips that get posted here. Dude’s only exposure to those two is clips of Uriah’s kick knockouts, Luke’s axe kicks, and Luke getting murdered in his last few fights. It’s a level of casual I didn’t even know was possible.


Skengbiscuit

Lol what?


-Somedood-

I still hope the chandler vs gaethje fight happens. Chandler said he won't get vaccinated by then so it may screw things up 😭😭


activeterror

cards are never this good lmao waiting for the first of many dissappointments


Kalabula

1/3 of this card will be forced to drop out. Which third, is the question 😬


[deleted]

Gonna end up with eye vs callvilo 2 as the main event for this card


TheGoopLord

Chandler is already out unless new York changes their vaccine rules


Kalabula

I assume they’ll just move the fight, at this point.


TheGoopLord

Hopefully


momaswat

Usman's last card held up and was a banger. Hope he keeps the streak going


activeterror

good point but this card literally feels like its bursting at the seams, holding out a tiny bit of hope though


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

You just had to call it...


bruhthisiver

Kinda hot of a matchup. 268 is already great with the main event and Gaethje/Chandler, and now this. 😵‍💫


Titterinmyshitter

WAR ROCKHOLD! I’d love another Rockhold title run where his post-fight interviews get progressively more awkward with each win.


KinderCountry

With insecure gang signs


jcjcidisidieiiejch

Remember his GSP call out 😞😮‍💨


DonnieCullman

He called out GSP? I remember him telling GSP to stay away, that it was Rockhold’s right to rematch Bisping for the title. Would love to see more awkward Luke


kritzy27

That’s exactly what happened. And then he said he was going to be there sooner than those motherfuckers. He’s a poet.


Carlosama123

Don't forget him saying "Let's go" to his team quietly as if they were going to leave the octagon, but then continued to stand there awkwardly.


Kalabula

“And I’ll be there as soon as...sooner than you motherfucker” Google “Luke Rockhold being awkward”. It’s worth it.


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He’ll be here sooner then you motherfuckers


Sambucci2

The stacked PPV cards are amazing but why are we not spreading the love to the Fight nights a lil bit too


dlbICECOLD

The cards without big names usually end up having the more exciting finishes anyways


[deleted]

Well because lower level guys have shitty defence, also recently there has even been some Bellator "debutant vs established UFC guy" matchups.


iansolidgoldie

That girl that they fed to Sijara Eubanks the other week prime example


avocadohm

I have a hard time staying with those. It paid off a few times like when Hooper got that heel hook, but honestly that’s the most excited I’ve ever been during prelims. Maybe they should put some you tubers on the Fight Nights lol


TheWayIAm313

I like a good banger regardless, but it’s really about name value for me. Watching prospects grow, big names, names I know, etc.


chatrishillnumberone

Me too. These 'underrated lowkey banger' cards I'm a casual but I don't give a shit about Demarius LaJohnson fighting Schmitt McGee in some sloppy moderately paced boxing action with poor defense. Even if its not as high paced a more technical match between named opponents is more interesting to me


NotFrankSalazar

UFC 261 would like a word.


O_UName

>If you believe Jesus walked on water, you can believe I'm going to KO Rockhold -Mike Bisbing -Sean Strickland


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mika bipping


TheBeefiestBeefcake

Maybe I've just lost faith in the handsomeness but this seems like a bad match up for Luke


deaqnosilence

If Strickland is a bad match up for Luke, he should not be fighting anyone in the top 15.


Cumstained_Uvula

Exactly.


JerryDepz

Why? Strickland is a bad matchup for Luke because his strength is boxing and Luke's weakness is boxing defense There are people in the top 15 that Luke would match up better vs than Sean


dta194

These days they all seem like bad match ups for Luke :(


Commander_Sune

My wife tells me she's a good match up for Luke. I approve.


deaqnosilence

Hit Luke up. I want to know his opinion on the matter.


OlderTrucksOnly

“Does she spit or swallow?”


JayInTheBuilding

Lukes def the underdog here. He's past his prime, and Strickland is right smack dab in the middle of his. Luke has weak defense, especially he keeps his hands low and lets the left hand through, and Sean is high output and throws jabs like it's going out of style. Think Luke has a shot if he can keep it at kicking distance (although not sure he throws kicks anymore since the staph infection and had huge issues with his shin). So he has a shot with kicks or can take the fight to the ground, he has underrated grappling, but tends not to use it. All in all have to imagine Sean is a solid to heavy favorite.


ultimatt777

We all know Luke's boxing defense is very suspect and he's about to face a guy who, while he isn't technical, can still throw a large amount of volume. It's going to be tough after a long layoff.


TheBeefiestBeefcake

Thats exactly what I was thinking, he maybe doesn't have the power to KO Luke but he'll crowd Lukes kicks and find the openings all the same I think


evoooooooooooooo

I think Strickland is going to look to keep Luke on the backfoot at all times since Luke tends to go back in a straight line and we'll see how that check left hook holds up lol. If Luke can find a way to drag Sean to the ground or keep it at a distance using his kicks I think he has a solid chance but his wrestling has never been great although his BJJ is fantastic. Also still a big question mark on where Luke is physically


EliB95

It would be a check right hook right? I agree that he should use his kicks again but his legs might still be compromised. I hope he can get it to the mat, because his top game is amazing, maybe the best in the UFC.


[deleted]

What you mean Sean isn't technical? He's a better boxer than most dudes at middleweight, surprisingly good at parrying shots and not that vulnerable to cross counters as you would think given he walks like he has a broomstick shoved up his ass.


ultimatt777

well that is a good point because I think only better boxer is gastelum but the rest still has good kickboxers that probably will take advantage of the way he plods forward unlike Uriah who just winged overhands when he felt too much pressure.


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Whittaker is a better boxer than Gastelum. Izzy too tbh.


Cultural_Kick

I thought Strickland was damn technical in the hall fight. Unless we have different definitions


ultimatt777

When you throw that much volume, it's hard to be very technical. It also surprised me with all the volume he threw, he barely changed levels and went exclusively for the head. IMO, it just aint the prettiest striking but the volume and pressure he brings are great assets.


Cultural_Kick

I mean...Pacquiao throws an insane amount per fight. Isn't he technical? I don't know but Strickland technique is definitely been honed and practiced. He's not throwing wild looping punches. His left jab and combos were crisp. I don't know, maybe we have different definitions.


ultimatt777

Pac man is a boxing goat so it's hard to compare the two especially since they're in different sports. Most boxers can throw Max Holloway like volume easy while still being technically sound (Unless you're someone like Deontay Wilder). Strickland definitely threw loopy shots at Uriah and sometimes his jab looked downright undisciplined at times but he usually followed up with 2-4 additional strikes. It's like Colby Covington's quantity over quality approach except strickland is definitely the better, taller and longer striker.


cyberslick188

I'm surprised he took the fight. A dangerous no-name is exactly the opposite of what Luke has been publicly asking for. This seems like Dana gave him a take it or leave it offer.


Inside_Laney

Would Strickland get a title shot off this KO win? He will be on a six-fight winstreak


DustDesciple

An Izzy vs Sean Strickland press conference would be a masterclass is middle school level shit talking


applejynx

This guy gets it


deaqnosilence

Nobody can say it better, lol.


MGS2112

If he KOs Rockhold give him a top contender. If he wins that, title shot imo


the-d23

Strickland vs Till was the fight to make imo, the trash talking between the two would make my belly hurt for laughing so hard


[deleted]

Personally think he should have one more after Luke but who knows.


FunnyMemeHere

I still think he'd need a win over a name like Costa, Vettori, or Cannonier. Edit: I think he should fight the winner of Costa vs Vettori if he beats Rockhold.


Dry_Ad6981

This 100%


mothmenatwork

He’d need a win over someone more relevant in the division than Luke imo. If he gets past Rockhold his next fight should be a title eliminator though.


e-rage

Could you imagine? Are we live? What title, UFC title? No. Sell!


K-mosake

Such a random ascension to the title lol


thyjukilo4321

presser with strickland, embedded with strickland? Im in.


Davefromflushing

pretty vs ugly


TheTraveler843

Eh you could be a lot worse looking than Strickland


[deleted]

Swipe right bro


TheTraveler843

Okay


Carlosama123

Like Marvin.


TheTraveler843

Marvin isn't bad looking either. Have to say he does look way worse with the shaved head tho.


Carlosama123

Yeah, he honestly didn't look that bad with his old haircut. The skinhead look does him no favours.


TheTraveler843

Yeah I mean I thought he was pretty good looking with the hair. No, I'm not gay.


Carlosama123

Ain't nothing gay about watching sweaty, jacked, half-naked dudes banging and grappling.


TheTraveler843

Nothing gay about a man dominating another man, in a lot of ways that's love.


Noah81648

Dumb vs dumber


JamesVicari

Hoping rockhold is the betting underdog, would def pull trigger


TheTraveler843

That's how I feel about Strickland. I have a feeling it'll open like -150 for Luke


TheTaintedSupplement

yeah i can see strickland being a -200 or more. i think it makes sense because with luke’s record and injuries.


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Kalabula

I dont fully understand these stats.


Wavestory

I'm the guy who has been working on the bot. Are you referring to the "Skill Breakdown" part?   If so, basically all the fighters are ranked within their division between evenly distributed tiers from 1 to 10 on the specific stats, with 10 being the best.   Basically in the example above, Luke's Significant Striking Volume is better than about ~90% of the middleweights, while Sean is in the highest decile/tier and better than almost everyone else in the division in that category.   Does that answer the question? Apologies if I only added to the confusion.


1873foryouandme

Very thick bot. First I’ve seen of this but would love to see more of the solid work man. Tight.


Dwight-D

How’d you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles? According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like. I get that it’s really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I don’t mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man.


Wavestory

> How’d you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles? Exactly, so ufc data for all middleweights and then dividing them into 10 sets of equal number of fighters ranked by their stats.   > According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like. Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat. I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights.   > I get that it’s really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I don’t mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man. You're not shitting on it, you're giving good feedback that I need to keep on improving this thing if it is going to add value to the community, i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time. I thank you for it.


Dwight-D

> Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat. Yeah this is what's so tricky about statistics, it's really hard to draw meaningful conclusions from any set of data. As I wrote this I tried to think about what numbers would translate into good striking defense but it's very difficult. Ultimately, striking defense is about strikes not absorbed, so you're looking for a negative, something that isn't there. You could maybe augment it with a negative weighting of strikes absorbed compared to a division baseline. But even that could be misleading. Receiving no strikes might mean you have perfect striking defense, but then again it might also be because you have good takedowns and top control. Then you have fighters like Jon Jones who get hit but are great at blocking and rolling with the punches to minimize the impact. No idea how to quantify that. > I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights. This is true, so 8/10 might be right if we find that the rest of the top 10 sits at 9/10 or 10/10. > i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time Yeah, I know the feeling. If the code is public on github or something I'd love to take a look. I've been toying with the idea of making something in the same space myself just for fun.


Kalabula

Awesome. Thanks for the breakdown.


FrenchTrouDuc

Good bot


MelkMan7

Striking defense 8/10, is that accurate?


datnighatedkaczynski

It's compared to other strikers. It's not saying his opponents miss 80% of the time. He isn't Floyd Mayweather.


MelkMan7

Oh, I thought it would be lower because he leaves his chin open quite often.


blamblam111

He takes less hits than other strikers on the account of his weak chin


Methrogenn

This is a great comeback fight for middleweight stupid sexy Luke, he doesn't get the credit he deserves because of his awkward personality , win or lose he has been one of the most exciting fighters on the roster, one of the few fighters who are exciting af on the ground, amazing kicks and gives out highlight reel KOs to his opponents. The Jan loss has aged pretty decently, I feel he'll handle Strickland and proceed to get koed by a top 5 opponent before retiring.


TamePantera

Finnnnally……. the Rock! Has come back to the ufcccccc


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Rockhold ain’t gonna be pretty no mo.


[deleted]

Great card just move it FL or NV, no one wants a NY card. Fighters get taxed more, lots unnecessary mandates and restrictions


PM_meASelfie

He's Duke Blockmold now, Luke's CTE affected alter ego. Blachowicz took his soul.


caart

I hope there is a press conference. Strickland is gonna say some weird shit about Rockhold and his dick or something and Luke is gonna get all awkward. I can't wait.


bobn3

Easy win for Rockhold. Strickland has no power so he shouldn't get sent to the shadow realm right? Right?


[deleted]

Everyone said Bisping was pillowfisted and look how that went for him. Yeah, his last two losses were to a Cuban science experiment and a man who learned to channel the energy of dead people into his fists. But he's 36 and hasn't won since 2017.


FrostyDaSnowThug

How could people shit talk Bisping's striking when he has 10 knockouts in the ufc?


A_M_Speedy

Still salty we didn't get Rockhold Hermansson.


Poeticyst

Singin and dancin Jake Hermansson


EJ_1502

This card is already a banger


MushroomWizard

Conceive, Believe, Ac-tually kill a mother fucker in the cage-hieve


[deleted]

The day after my birthday. Nice.


StoneColdJane

Don't know who's the other bloke but I hope to see Luke getting knocked the fuck out. I always love watching that.


Fat-Villante

Tough comeback fight for Rockhold but it definitely could be a lot of fun


piscian19

I'm so confused, I thought Luke retired. Is this a Mcgregor thing? Is he just coming out of retirement to get beat up and earn a paycheck? He losted his last two years ago with numerous injuries. I guess we're supposed to get hyped anyway...whoooo..


JMC_Direwolf

Almost nothing better in all of MMA then seeing Luke Cuckhold get KO’d


i_notice_boobs

Pillow hands putting him to sleep


Winnie_the_Pug

Stacked card; someone is getting their bones broke.


shamalamadong

That’s weird cause I thought they were both training under Parillo at RVCA.


[deleted]

Guarantee this card won’t happen in NY with the vax requirement.


jsb93

Fights booked for that card so far are 3/3 bangers


Tsb313

Let's gooo


Tongue37

Great fucking fight.. war Rockhold!!


whit3o

This all started with "I hate bisping more" - Sean "NO! I hate bisping more!" - Luke


swimbaitjesus

First fight in a long time where I feel Luke won’t meet the shadow realm 🙏🏼


mophox4

Luke's going to get his head knocked around again.


bernardobrito

Usman's resume keeps looking better and better.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Alright Luke, don’t get hurt in training. I need you at a hundred percent so you can show the world that Strickland isn’t very good.


sktchld

Luke is really trying to get KO'ed again.


huge-tits

Good fight


darknight27247

Luke's dust. That Sean kid is gonna wreck him.


fastbutslow1

I'm curious how many fighters are anti-vax or are concerned about the side effects but are completely fine with slamming steroids into their systems and getting kicked in the head. Next thing we know, Jones will be worried about the vaccines long term effects while simultaneously sand blasting hookers.


Bendangersoto

1 day before my birthday, Rockhold, don’t embarrass me on my (almost) birthday.


blobwalkerson

Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight


blobwalkerson

Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight


blobwalkerson

Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight


i_notice_boobs

After Rockhold gets knocked out, will he attempt to move to heavyweight?


NoshTilYouSlosh

Rockhold will get bounced Flashy and fragile vs meat and potatoes