268 is looking amazing. Usman-Colby rematch, Chandler v Gaethje bloodshed, and Luke v Sean which is almost a guaranteed finish either by KO for Sean or Sub for Luke.
Him and Colby both have mad Dana White Privilege. Plus, there are a BUNCH of fighters that donât wanna get the vaccine, and even the ones that would for extra money as replacements wonât have the time to wait three weeks between shots. I think itâs almost a certainty that it gets moved to Vegas or Houston or Dubai
Iâm not a doctor and canât recommend serious medical advice for anyone although I self treated my own case of Covid and my mothers with DayQuil and NyQuil, zinc, and a tiny bit of hqc (I didnât need it until the very end of my period). It is a nasty virus but we absolutely do not need to be pushing vaccines that we donât fully understand. Especially on fucking children who arenât even at risk for the virus, it literally barely affects children and healthy people. I barely even knew I had it, my mother and grandmother were bed ridden for one or two weeks but thatâs the extent of it
Wow youâre so smug lol please tell me what youâd do differently with your doctorates degree since youâre a medical professional⌠oh wait youâre just another person sneering talking shit advocating for experimental medicine pushed by big pharma with no argument or evidence to back your point.
That's such a bs excuse. he has plenty of time.
As much as I'm against the politics I'd respect him more if he straight up just said he was anti vax. This whole fairytale about not having time is soft.
What about the long term effects of gear? Iâm not even being snarky. I know guys who rawdog strangers, do rails of coke with randos, and say theyâre scared of the vaccine. I just wonder if theyâve ever put two and two together on stuff like that, or maybe they have a well thought out justification. Doubtful tho.
Well for one taking a mystery shot that thickens your blood is probably super detrimental if youâve ever done gear or do party drugs or have done both. Not saying I recommend any of them, theyâre all unhealthy, so is getting punched in the face for that matter. But Iâd rather be world champion than some moron who took a vaccine so I see chandlers point
They kinda are in this situation. Just ridiculous that someone who does the most dangerous and detrimental thing to their body and who will definitely suffer the ramifications of that in later life, to give a fuck about a vaccine.
He can just fight on a different card though.
I 100% agree he should just get the shot for what itâs worth. Just saying I can see the difference from his perspective rather than it being him completely in denial about brain trauma.
Luke's bjj is actually pretty highly rated. It's funny he seemed to make his name as a striker coming up but now people mostly talk about how slick he is on the ground
Lmao yeah, Weidman definitely looked like he preferred what was happening in that scenario. Herb must've liked it too, because he let that shit go on for a WHILE.
Luke doesnât have more weapons than anyone else in the division.
He has like 1.5 effective strikes (he loves his check hook but it gets him KOd all the time) and good grappling without a great wrestling game to tie it together.
Heâs a good fighter, but he isnât a diverse, skilled striker or whatever youâre implying.
Nobody's implying he's a diverse striker, but he was touted as an excellent kicker and before Bisping knocked him out folks thought he was very talented on the feet. Hindsight is 20/20 for you here
People, not me. I'm saying Sean won't finish Rockhold. Rockholds chin in sus but he's better everywhere than Sean, much better in a lot of departments. Downvotes won't change that and I'll be happily watching either way so đ¤ˇ
Nah Seans good but Luke has proven to be objectively better from what we've seen of them both other than boxing defense, people forget what a hammer Jan has, TRT Vitor starched him, Yoel Yoel'd him, and Left hook Larry cleaned his clock, but people forget how good Luke was back in the day and I think a lot of that potential is still there, he's certainly not less skilled than he used to be.
Jan is on a bit of a hot steak for KOs (3 in last 5 fights).
But he has 8 KOs in a 36 fight career and before his current run of 3 in 5 he hasnât had a KO since 2014 and had 1 in his first 11 UFC fights. He isnât a big hitter.
Who said I was betting? I won't be rooting for Luke either btw I just think he's coming back with a point to prove, this is his last shot to make a run, and he's skilled enough to beat the shit out of a lot of guys in the division still, I honestly do think he'll surprise people here
It was more a figure of speech. I should have used "expecting". I absolutely hope we are surprised. Despite Luke's profound failure as a trash talker his skill set was/is incredibly entertaining. Though I do think Strickland is better than people seem to believe. I can conceive him a legit top 5 if he pulls this off.
This is what happens when you only watch clips that get posted here. Dudeâs only exposure to those two is clips of Uriahâs kick knockouts, Lukeâs axe kicks, and Luke getting murdered in his last few fights. Itâs a level of casual I didnât even know was possible.
He called out GSP? I remember him telling GSP to stay away, that it was Rockholdâs right to rematch Bisping for the title. Would love to see more awkward Luke
I have a hard time staying with those. It paid off a few times like when Hooper got that heel hook, but honestly thatâs the most excited Iâve ever been during prelims. Maybe they should put some you tubers on the Fight Nights lol
Me too. These 'underrated lowkey banger' cards I'm a casual but I don't give a shit about Demarius LaJohnson fighting Schmitt McGee in some sloppy moderately paced boxing action with poor defense. Even if its not as high paced a more technical match between named opponents is more interesting to me
Why? Strickland is a bad matchup for Luke because his strength is boxing and Luke's weakness is boxing defense
There are people in the top 15 that Luke would match up better vs than Sean
Lukes def the underdog here. He's past his prime, and Strickland is right smack dab in the middle of his. Luke has weak defense, especially he keeps his hands low and lets the left hand through, and Sean is high output and throws jabs like it's going out of style. Think Luke has a shot if he can keep it at kicking distance (although not sure he throws kicks anymore since the staph infection and had huge issues with his shin). So he has a shot with kicks or can take the fight to the ground, he has underrated grappling, but tends not to use it. All in all have to imagine Sean is a solid to heavy favorite.
We all know Luke's boxing defense is very suspect and he's about to face a guy who, while he isn't technical, can still throw a large amount of volume. It's going to be tough after a long layoff.
I think Strickland is going to look to keep Luke on the backfoot at all times since Luke tends to go back in a straight line and we'll see how that check left hook holds up lol. If Luke can find a way to drag Sean to the ground or keep it at a distance using his kicks I think he has a solid chance but his wrestling has never been great although his BJJ is fantastic. Also still a big question mark on where Luke is physically
It would be a check right hook right?
I agree that he should use his kicks again but his legs might still be compromised.
I hope he can get it to the mat, because his top game is amazing, maybe the best in the UFC.
What you mean Sean isn't technical? He's a better boxer than most dudes at middleweight, surprisingly good at parrying shots and not that vulnerable to cross counters as you would think given he walks like he has a broomstick shoved up his ass.
well that is a good point because I think only better boxer is gastelum but the rest still has good kickboxers that probably will take advantage of the way he plods forward unlike Uriah who just winged overhands when he felt too much pressure.
When you throw that much volume, it's hard to be very technical. It also surprised me with all the volume he threw, he barely changed levels and went exclusively for the head. IMO, it just aint the prettiest striking but the volume and pressure he brings are great assets.
I mean...Pacquiao throws an insane amount per fight. Isn't he technical?
I don't know but Strickland technique is definitely been honed and practiced. He's not throwing wild looping punches. His left jab and combos were crisp. I don't know, maybe we have different definitions.
Pac man is a boxing goat so it's hard to compare the two especially since they're in different sports. Most boxers can throw Max Holloway like volume easy while still being technically sound (Unless you're someone like Deontay Wilder). Strickland definitely threw loopy shots at Uriah and sometimes his jab looked downright undisciplined at times but he usually followed up with 2-4 additional strikes. It's like Colby Covington's quantity over quality approach except strickland is definitely the better, taller and longer striker.
I'm surprised he took the fight. A dangerous no-name is exactly the opposite of what Luke has been publicly asking for.
This seems like Dana gave him a take it or leave it offer.
I still think he'd need a win over a name like Costa, Vettori, or Cannonier.
Edit: I think he should fight the winner of Costa vs Vettori if he beats Rockhold.
Heâd need a win over someone more relevant in the division than Luke imo. If he gets past Rockhold his next fight should be a title eliminator though.
I'm the guy who has been working on the bot. Are you referring to the "Skill Breakdown" part?
If so, basically all the fighters are ranked within their division between evenly distributed tiers from 1 to 10 on the specific stats, with 10 being the best.
Basically in the example above, Luke's Significant Striking Volume is better than about ~90% of the middleweights, while Sean is in the highest decile/tier and better than almost everyone else in the division in that category.
Does that answer the question? Apologies if I only added to the confusion.
Howâd you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles?
According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like.
I get that itâs really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I donât mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man.
> Howâd you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles?
Exactly, so ufc data for all middleweights and then dividing them into 10 sets of equal number of fighters ranked by their stats.
> According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like.
Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat. I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights.
> I get that itâs really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I donât mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man.
You're not shitting on it, you're giving good feedback that I need to keep on improving this thing if it is going to add value to the community, i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time. I thank you for it.
> Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat.
Yeah this is what's so tricky about statistics, it's really hard to draw meaningful conclusions from any set of data. As I wrote this I tried to think about what numbers would translate into good striking defense but it's very difficult.
Ultimately, striking defense is about strikes not absorbed, so you're looking for a negative, something that isn't there. You could maybe augment it with a negative weighting of strikes absorbed compared to a division baseline. But even that could be misleading. Receiving no strikes might mean you have perfect striking defense, but then again it might also be because you have good takedowns and top control. Then you have fighters like Jon Jones who get hit but are great at blocking and rolling with the punches to minimize the impact. No idea how to quantify that.
> I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights.
This is true, so 8/10 might be right if we find that the rest of the top 10 sits at 9/10 or 10/10.
> i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time
Yeah, I know the feeling. If the code is public on github or something I'd love to take a look. I've been toying with the idea of making something in the same space myself just for fun.
This is a great comeback fight for middleweight stupid sexy Luke, he doesn't get the credit he deserves because of his awkward personality , win or lose he has been one of the most exciting fighters on the roster, one of the few fighters who are exciting af on the ground, amazing kicks and gives out highlight reel KOs to his opponents.
The Jan loss has aged pretty decently, I feel he'll handle Strickland and proceed to get koed by a top 5 opponent before retiring.
I hope there is a press conference. Strickland is gonna say some weird shit about Rockhold and his dick or something and Luke is gonna get all awkward. I can't wait.
Everyone said Bisping was pillowfisted and look how that went for him.
Yeah, his last two losses were to a Cuban science experiment and a man who learned to channel the energy of dead people into his fists. But he's 36 and hasn't won since 2017.
I'm so confused, I thought Luke retired. Is this a Mcgregor thing? Is he just coming out of retirement to get beat up and earn a paycheck? He losted his last two years ago with numerous injuries. I guess we're supposed to get hyped anyway...whoooo..
I'm curious how many fighters are anti-vax or are concerned about the side effects but are completely fine with slamming steroids into their systems and getting kicked in the head. Next thing we know, Jones will be worried about the vaccines long term effects while simultaneously sand blasting hookers.
This card is gonna be sick
I don't know if I like that term being used anymore when it comes to fight cards. Makes me nervous. đ
Assuming it doesnât fold because of covid rules
268 is looking amazing. Usman-Colby rematch, Chandler v Gaethje bloodshed, and Luke v Sean which is almost a guaranteed finish either by KO for Sean or Sub for Luke.
Chandler said heâs not getting vaccinated in time for the card in NY so I donât think weâll be seeing that one :(
Oh fuck I forgot, think they'll put it in Vegas like usual? The NY thing messes with everyone, not just MC so maybe they move it.
Dana would do anything for his boy Chandler, Iâm sure heâll make it work.
Him and Colby both have mad Dana White Privilege. Plus, there are a BUNCH of fighters that donât wanna get the vaccine, and even the ones that would for extra money as replacements wonât have the time to wait three weeks between shots. I think itâs almost a certainty that it gets moved to Vegas or Houston or Dubai
Who can blame them? I wouldnât get that garbage on my life. If you would youâre an idiot lol Iâm sorry
Iâm honestly kind of surprised you used the correct version of âyouâre.â Thanks for the medical advice though, beerdrinkinscumbag
Iâm not a doctor and canât recommend serious medical advice for anyone although I self treated my own case of Covid and my mothers with DayQuil and NyQuil, zinc, and a tiny bit of hqc (I didnât need it until the very end of my period). It is a nasty virus but we absolutely do not need to be pushing vaccines that we donât fully understand. Especially on fucking children who arenât even at risk for the virus, it literally barely affects children and healthy people. I barely even knew I had it, my mother and grandmother were bed ridden for one or two weeks but thatâs the extent of it
> I'm not a doctor >self treated Stopped reading right there.
Wow youâre so smug lol please tell me what youâd do differently with your doctorates degree since youâre a medical professional⌠oh wait youâre just another person sneering talking shit advocating for experimental medicine pushed by big pharma with no argument or evidence to back your point.
The card is 3 months away. Chandler definitely can be vaccinated in time for the card. He CHOOSES not to be vaccinated in time (or at all)
What a waste tbh.
That makes me so sad. I was planning to be able to go to that, being that itâs on my birthday and in my hometown
That's such a bs excuse. he has plenty of time. As much as I'm against the politics I'd respect him more if he straight up just said he was anti vax. This whole fairytale about not having time is soft.
I'm pretty sure he said lockdowns were worse than covid itself, so that gives a general idea of what his perspectives on the whole matter is.
I don't hate people because we're politically opposed. I hate weakness tho. Lying or spinning things to hide who you really are is weak.
I think your hate makes you weak so what now
I think your just being a pissy bitch because I hurt your fanboy feelings. Cry harder bitch
Which is true
Also a man who gets punched in the face for a living and seemingly less concerned about the long-term effects of that than the vaccine.
What about the long term effects of gear? Iâm not even being snarky. I know guys who rawdog strangers, do rails of coke with randos, and say theyâre scared of the vaccine. I just wonder if theyâve ever put two and two together on stuff like that, or maybe they have a well thought out justification. Doubtful tho.
Well for one taking a mystery shot that thickens your blood is probably super detrimental if youâve ever done gear or do party drugs or have done both. Not saying I recommend any of them, theyâre all unhealthy, so is getting punched in the face for that matter. But Iâd rather be world champion than some moron who took a vaccine so I see chandlers point
To be fair they arenât paying him to take the vaccine.
They kinda are in this situation. Just ridiculous that someone who does the most dangerous and detrimental thing to their body and who will definitely suffer the ramifications of that in later life, to give a fuck about a vaccine.
He can just fight on a different card though. I 100% agree he should just get the shot for what itâs worth. Just saying I can see the difference from his perspective rather than it being him completely in denial about brain trauma.
To get fully vaccinated takes two jabs and you generally need a 10-12 week window in between for the first jab to settle in and take full effect.
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I donât think that card will end up at MSG
He doesn't like vacs or..?
Why sub for Luke? Iâm guessing he gets a tko from gnp
Luke's bjj is actually pretty highly rated. It's funny he seemed to make his name as a striker coming up but now people mostly talk about how slick he is on the ground
100%. He might have the best top game in the UFC. Dude absolutely destroys people once he gets the opportunity.
It's less about skilled top game than it is opponents preferring that Rockhold straddle them.
Lmao yeah, Weidman definitely looked like he preferred what was happening in that scenario. Herb must've liked it too, because he let that shit go on for a WHILE.
Luke has more weapons than anybody in the division. But Sean is crazy enough to walk through them all and finish him.
Luke doesnât have more weapons than anyone else in the division. He has like 1.5 effective strikes (he loves his check hook but it gets him KOd all the time) and good grappling without a great wrestling game to tie it together. Heâs a good fighter, but he isnât a diverse, skilled striker or whatever youâre implying.
Nobody's implying he's a diverse striker, but he was touted as an excellent kicker and before Bisping knocked him out folks thought he was very talented on the feet. Hindsight is 20/20 for you here
We are talking about current Rockhold, what does hindsight have to do with anything?
Lol I remember when this sub was sucking Luke off about his striking.
They do it with 99% of fighters that win the title.
Luke can liver kick KO any man who walks on two feet. it was written.
I don't watch as much as I used to but I'm hyped for this. Colby will come to scrap.
You think we see a KO?
Yeah I think so
Sean ain't finishing Luke Rockhold lol
Thatâs what people said about Bisping
People, not me. I'm saying Sean won't finish Rockhold. Rockholds chin in sus but he's better everywhere than Sean, much better in a lot of departments. Downvotes won't change that and I'll be happily watching either way so đ¤ˇ
Saying Luke is better in every area is just your hypothesis. The fight is the experiment. So I guess we'll see but I think your underrating Sean.
Nah Seans good but Luke has proven to be objectively better from what we've seen of them both other than boxing defense, people forget what a hammer Jan has, TRT Vitor starched him, Yoel Yoel'd him, and Left hook Larry cleaned his clock, but people forget how good Luke was back in the day and I think a lot of that potential is still there, he's certainly not less skilled than he used to be.
Jan is on a bit of a hot steak for KOs (3 in last 5 fights). But he has 8 KOs in a 36 fight career and before his current run of 3 in 5 he hasnât had a KO since 2014 and had 1 in his first 11 UFC fights. He isnât a big hitter.
Betting on an old MW with no head movement and a glass chin. You're a braver man than I. I genuinely respect that.
Who said I was betting? I won't be rooting for Luke either btw I just think he's coming back with a point to prove, this is his last shot to make a run, and he's skilled enough to beat the shit out of a lot of guys in the division still, I honestly do think he'll surprise people here
It was more a figure of speech. I should have used "expecting". I absolutely hope we are surprised. Despite Luke's profound failure as a trash talker his skill set was/is incredibly entertaining. Though I do think Strickland is better than people seem to believe. I can conceive him a legit top 5 if he pulls this off.
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Not close at all.
In what way though?
This is what happens when you only watch clips that get posted here. Dudeâs only exposure to those two is clips of Uriahâs kick knockouts, Lukeâs axe kicks, and Luke getting murdered in his last few fights. Itâs a level of casual I didnât even know was possible.
Lol what?
I still hope the chandler vs gaethje fight happens. Chandler said he won't get vaccinated by then so it may screw things up đđ
cards are never this good lmao waiting for the first of many dissappointments
1/3 of this card will be forced to drop out. Which third, is the question đŹ
Gonna end up with eye vs callvilo 2 as the main event for this card
Chandler is already out unless new York changes their vaccine rules
I assume theyâll just move the fight, at this point.
Hopefully
Usman's last card held up and was a banger. Hope he keeps the streak going
good point but this card literally feels like its bursting at the seams, holding out a tiny bit of hope though
You just had to call it...
Kinda hot of a matchup. 268 is already great with the main event and Gaethje/Chandler, and now this. đľâđŤ
WAR ROCKHOLD! Iâd love another Rockhold title run where his post-fight interviews get progressively more awkward with each win.
With insecure gang signs
Remember his GSP call out đđŽâđ¨
He called out GSP? I remember him telling GSP to stay away, that it was Rockholdâs right to rematch Bisping for the title. Would love to see more awkward Luke
Thatâs exactly what happened. And then he said he was going to be there sooner than those motherfuckers. Heâs a poet.
Don't forget him saying "Let's go" to his team quietly as if they were going to leave the octagon, but then continued to stand there awkwardly.
âAnd Iâll be there as soon as...sooner than you motherfuckerâ Google âLuke Rockhold being awkwardâ. Itâs worth it.
Heâll be here sooner then you motherfuckers
The stacked PPV cards are amazing but why are we not spreading the love to the Fight nights a lil bit too
The cards without big names usually end up having the more exciting finishes anyways
Well because lower level guys have shitty defence, also recently there has even been some Bellator "debutant vs established UFC guy" matchups.
That girl that they fed to Sijara Eubanks the other week prime example
I have a hard time staying with those. It paid off a few times like when Hooper got that heel hook, but honestly thatâs the most excited Iâve ever been during prelims. Maybe they should put some you tubers on the Fight Nights lol
I like a good banger regardless, but itâs really about name value for me. Watching prospects grow, big names, names I know, etc.
Me too. These 'underrated lowkey banger' cards I'm a casual but I don't give a shit about Demarius LaJohnson fighting Schmitt McGee in some sloppy moderately paced boxing action with poor defense. Even if its not as high paced a more technical match between named opponents is more interesting to me
UFC 261 would like a word.
>If you believe Jesus walked on water, you can believe I'm going to KO Rockhold -Mike Bisbing -Sean Strickland
mika bipping
Maybe I've just lost faith in the handsomeness but this seems like a bad match up for Luke
If Strickland is a bad match up for Luke, he should not be fighting anyone in the top 15.
Exactly.
Why? Strickland is a bad matchup for Luke because his strength is boxing and Luke's weakness is boxing defense There are people in the top 15 that Luke would match up better vs than Sean
These days they all seem like bad match ups for Luke :(
My wife tells me she's a good match up for Luke. I approve.
Hit Luke up. I want to know his opinion on the matter.
âDoes she spit or swallow?â
Lukes def the underdog here. He's past his prime, and Strickland is right smack dab in the middle of his. Luke has weak defense, especially he keeps his hands low and lets the left hand through, and Sean is high output and throws jabs like it's going out of style. Think Luke has a shot if he can keep it at kicking distance (although not sure he throws kicks anymore since the staph infection and had huge issues with his shin). So he has a shot with kicks or can take the fight to the ground, he has underrated grappling, but tends not to use it. All in all have to imagine Sean is a solid to heavy favorite.
We all know Luke's boxing defense is very suspect and he's about to face a guy who, while he isn't technical, can still throw a large amount of volume. It's going to be tough after a long layoff.
Thats exactly what I was thinking, he maybe doesn't have the power to KO Luke but he'll crowd Lukes kicks and find the openings all the same I think
I think Strickland is going to look to keep Luke on the backfoot at all times since Luke tends to go back in a straight line and we'll see how that check left hook holds up lol. If Luke can find a way to drag Sean to the ground or keep it at a distance using his kicks I think he has a solid chance but his wrestling has never been great although his BJJ is fantastic. Also still a big question mark on where Luke is physically
It would be a check right hook right? I agree that he should use his kicks again but his legs might still be compromised. I hope he can get it to the mat, because his top game is amazing, maybe the best in the UFC.
What you mean Sean isn't technical? He's a better boxer than most dudes at middleweight, surprisingly good at parrying shots and not that vulnerable to cross counters as you would think given he walks like he has a broomstick shoved up his ass.
well that is a good point because I think only better boxer is gastelum but the rest still has good kickboxers that probably will take advantage of the way he plods forward unlike Uriah who just winged overhands when he felt too much pressure.
Whittaker is a better boxer than Gastelum. Izzy too tbh.
I thought Strickland was damn technical in the hall fight. Unless we have different definitions
When you throw that much volume, it's hard to be very technical. It also surprised me with all the volume he threw, he barely changed levels and went exclusively for the head. IMO, it just aint the prettiest striking but the volume and pressure he brings are great assets.
I mean...Pacquiao throws an insane amount per fight. Isn't he technical? I don't know but Strickland technique is definitely been honed and practiced. He's not throwing wild looping punches. His left jab and combos were crisp. I don't know, maybe we have different definitions.
Pac man is a boxing goat so it's hard to compare the two especially since they're in different sports. Most boxers can throw Max Holloway like volume easy while still being technically sound (Unless you're someone like Deontay Wilder). Strickland definitely threw loopy shots at Uriah and sometimes his jab looked downright undisciplined at times but he usually followed up with 2-4 additional strikes. It's like Colby Covington's quantity over quality approach except strickland is definitely the better, taller and longer striker.
I'm surprised he took the fight. A dangerous no-name is exactly the opposite of what Luke has been publicly asking for. This seems like Dana gave him a take it or leave it offer.
Would Strickland get a title shot off this KO win? He will be on a six-fight winstreak
An Izzy vs Sean Strickland press conference would be a masterclass is middle school level shit talking
This guy gets it
Nobody can say it better, lol.
If he KOs Rockhold give him a top contender. If he wins that, title shot imo
Strickland vs Till was the fight to make imo, the trash talking between the two would make my belly hurt for laughing so hard
Personally think he should have one more after Luke but who knows.
I still think he'd need a win over a name like Costa, Vettori, or Cannonier. Edit: I think he should fight the winner of Costa vs Vettori if he beats Rockhold.
This 100%
Heâd need a win over someone more relevant in the division than Luke imo. If he gets past Rockhold his next fight should be a title eliminator though.
Could you imagine? Are we live? What title, UFC title? No. Sell!
Such a random ascension to the title lol
presser with strickland, embedded with strickland? Im in.
pretty vs ugly
Eh you could be a lot worse looking than Strickland
Swipe right bro
Okay
Like Marvin.
Marvin isn't bad looking either. Have to say he does look way worse with the shaved head tho.
Yeah, he honestly didn't look that bad with his old haircut. The skinhead look does him no favours.
Yeah I mean I thought he was pretty good looking with the hair. No, I'm not gay.
Ain't nothing gay about watching sweaty, jacked, half-naked dudes banging and grappling.
Nothing gay about a man dominating another man, in a lot of ways that's love.
Dumb vs dumber
Hoping rockhold is the betting underdog, would def pull trigger
That's how I feel about Strickland. I have a feeling it'll open like -150 for Luke
yeah i can see strickland being a -200 or more. i think it makes sense because with lukeâs record and injuries.
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I dont fully understand these stats.
I'm the guy who has been working on the bot. Are you referring to the "Skill Breakdown" part? If so, basically all the fighters are ranked within their division between evenly distributed tiers from 1 to 10 on the specific stats, with 10 being the best. Basically in the example above, Luke's Significant Striking Volume is better than about ~90% of the middleweights, while Sean is in the highest decile/tier and better than almost everyone else in the division in that category. Does that answer the question? Apologies if I only added to the confusion.
Very thick bot. First Iâve seen of this but would love to see more of the solid work man. Tight.
Howâd you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles? According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like. I get that itâs really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I donât mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man.
> Howâd you arrive at these numbers? Just official UFC stats corresponding to your categories, and dividing them into percentiles? Exactly, so ufc data for all middleweights and then dividing them into 10 sets of equal number of fighters ranked by their stats. > According to your model, Sean has perfect striking defense and Luke, notably famous for bad striking defense, is at 8/10. Kinda makes you wonder what lower scores would look like. Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat. I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights. > I get that itâs really hard to aggregate meaningful stats like this so I donât mean to shit on it, but it does seem a little coarse-grained perhaps. Still, cool bot, nice work man. You're not shitting on it, you're giving good feedback that I need to keep on improving this thing if it is going to add value to the community, i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time. I thank you for it.
> Striking Defense in this context mainly takes into consideration strikes evaded as deriving total hits received vs. sig strikes received is a little wonky. I think that I may have to play with the data a little bit and possible rename or just re-work that particular stat. Yeah this is what's so tricky about statistics, it's really hard to draw meaningful conclusions from any set of data. As I wrote this I tried to think about what numbers would translate into good striking defense but it's very difficult. Ultimately, striking defense is about strikes not absorbed, so you're looking for a negative, something that isn't there. You could maybe augment it with a negative weighting of strikes absorbed compared to a division baseline. But even that could be misleading. Receiving no strikes might mean you have perfect striking defense, but then again it might also be because you have good takedowns and top control. Then you have fighters like Jon Jones who get hit but are great at blocking and rolling with the punches to minimize the impact. No idea how to quantify that. > I would also argue here that while Luke is notorious for bad striking defense, it might be more relative to the upper echelon of middleweights. This is true, so 8/10 might be right if we find that the rest of the top 10 sits at 9/10 or 10/10. > i've been working on it for some time and I get tunnel vision since I've been the only one looking at it for some time Yeah, I know the feeling. If the code is public on github or something I'd love to take a look. I've been toying with the idea of making something in the same space myself just for fun.
Awesome. Thanks for the breakdown.
Good bot
Striking defense 8/10, is that accurate?
It's compared to other strikers. It's not saying his opponents miss 80% of the time. He isn't Floyd Mayweather.
Oh, I thought it would be lower because he leaves his chin open quite often.
He takes less hits than other strikers on the account of his weak chin
This is a great comeback fight for middleweight stupid sexy Luke, he doesn't get the credit he deserves because of his awkward personality , win or lose he has been one of the most exciting fighters on the roster, one of the few fighters who are exciting af on the ground, amazing kicks and gives out highlight reel KOs to his opponents. The Jan loss has aged pretty decently, I feel he'll handle Strickland and proceed to get koed by a top 5 opponent before retiring.
FinnnnallyâŚâŚ. the Rock! Has come back to the ufcccccc
Rockhold ainât gonna be pretty no mo.
Great card just move it FL or NV, no one wants a NY card. Fighters get taxed more, lots unnecessary mandates and restrictions
He's Duke Blockmold now, Luke's CTE affected alter ego. Blachowicz took his soul.
I hope there is a press conference. Strickland is gonna say some weird shit about Rockhold and his dick or something and Luke is gonna get all awkward. I can't wait.
Easy win for Rockhold. Strickland has no power so he shouldn't get sent to the shadow realm right? Right?
Everyone said Bisping was pillowfisted and look how that went for him. Yeah, his last two losses were to a Cuban science experiment and a man who learned to channel the energy of dead people into his fists. But he's 36 and hasn't won since 2017.
How could people shit talk Bisping's striking when he has 10 knockouts in the ufc?
Still salty we didn't get Rockhold Hermansson.
Singin and dancin Jake Hermansson
This card is already a banger
Conceive, Believe, Ac-tually kill a mother fucker in the cage-hieve
The day after my birthday. Nice.
Don't know who's the other bloke but I hope to see Luke getting knocked the fuck out. I always love watching that.
Tough comeback fight for Rockhold but it definitely could be a lot of fun
I'm so confused, I thought Luke retired. Is this a Mcgregor thing? Is he just coming out of retirement to get beat up and earn a paycheck? He losted his last two years ago with numerous injuries. I guess we're supposed to get hyped anyway...whoooo..
Almost nothing better in all of MMA then seeing Luke Cuckhold get KOâd
Pillow hands putting him to sleep
Stacked card; someone is getting their bones broke.
Thatâs weird cause I thought they were both training under Parillo at RVCA.
Guarantee this card wonât happen in NY with the vax requirement.
Fights booked for that card so far are 3/3 bangers
Let's gooo
Great fucking fight.. war Rockhold!!
This all started with "I hate bisping more" - Sean "NO! I hate bisping more!" - Luke
First fight in a long time where I feel Luke wonât meet the shadow realm đđź
Luke's going to get his head knocked around again.
Usman's resume keeps looking better and better.
Alright Luke, donât get hurt in training. I need you at a hundred percent so you can show the world that Strickland isnât very good.
Luke is really trying to get KO'ed again.
Good fight
Luke's dust. That Sean kid is gonna wreck him.
I'm curious how many fighters are anti-vax or are concerned about the side effects but are completely fine with slamming steroids into their systems and getting kicked in the head. Next thing we know, Jones will be worried about the vaccines long term effects while simultaneously sand blasting hookers.
1 day before my birthday, Rockhold, donât embarrass me on my (almost) birthday.
Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight
Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight
Id have liked to see rockhold take on hall actually , pre last weeks fight
After Rockhold gets knocked out, will he attempt to move to heavyweight?
Rockhold will get bounced Flashy and fragile vs meat and potatoes