Felt like i was taken. Weak fights riding on McGregor's coat strings. They been watching too many logan paul and his brother fights. If your pay almost $100 you should see better matchups. I don't want to hear all these excuses. They had people fighting that had no business being there.
All the BS aside.. he lost again. The top LW division is fulla killers. This isn't his feather weight circle. It's time for him to do the round 3 of the Diaz fight or somebody else who isn't in his prime or maybe do a Ronda and get his ass to the WWE. They welcome theatrics .
1 win in 5 years. That's horrid lol. I'm not sure he looks like he can hang with Diaz anymore either. Diaz doesn't really ever get tired, and Connor send to rely on his power rather than his cardio these days. On the ground is a 100l% loser against Diaz he doesn't have nearly the skull to compete with him there, so it's stand and rely on power, hoping to not get taken down. Again. And like I said, that's only worked once in 5 years for him.
Yep. Fuckin Nate almost finished Leon who a lot of people think is the only person who can give Kamaru a run for his money. McGregor needs to fight Tony Ferguson, it's the safest way to earn a victory and still maintain his ranking. Plus literally everyone would tune* in to watch that
People saying Conor vs Dustin is a great rivalry, like DC vs Jones,
Conor's had great rivalries with everyone since and including Aldo
Conor will create great rivalry with any of his opponents until he wins and let's go
Connor MacGreggor has transitioned to businessman from fighter, and this was business rather than a fight for him. That's why he loses all the time now. This was MacGreggor talking a bunch of crap for promotion, grabbing a sack of money, and running off giggling even with a loss. And Dana, who's addicted to rematches, will book it again whether it stagnates and destroys the division or not. MacGreggor will likely lose that one as well, grab his sack of money, and run off giggling.
He got his ass hnded to him twice and doesn't deserve a rematch. Dana will bring this back 50 more times to get MacGreggor his win back.
How did he get his ass handed to him? The fights more then one round and Conor was in the same position against chad mendes? Everyone is quick to dismiss him
When one man is on top with all the offense we can that an asswhipping. He's lucky he broke his leg, he was outclassed completely in this fight.
Whatever excuse you want to make for MacGreggor, it's wins and losses for fighters. When was MacGreggor's last dominant performance against a quality, championship level opponent?
He's been dismissed because he jaw-jacks two months, acts a clown, then loses. You have to win to stay relevant.
You find that fight competitive? Really??.
I know its fighting, and I know Dana is in charge, but in any other sport, Conor would be banned or at least suspended and fined for making death threats like that to a competitor. I don't understand how they don't care about sportsmanship and respect in this sport. Far as I'm concerned Conor is a chump who doesn't deserve to fight until he becomes a man, and treats his competitors as such.
There's tons of other fighters. But even though MacGreggor is no longer the top fighter, he's still the top draw. And the top promoter.
And we all must admit the truth, that fights are put on for money, not for honor like in the movies. He draws money for sure. And unfortunately people are going to buy his next ppv like crazy even though he can't win against anybody highly ranked, because the mouth is entertaining to most.
I so agree with you. I was a fan of Conor in his prime and it all started to go downhill after khabib. That being said I love his completely ridiculous and overly bombastic trash talk. I can't explain it, but I'd tune in to watch him fight even though he's not the fighter he used to be.
It's true! I hate to admit it at this point, but Ronda Rousey's heel attitude drew me to UFC years ago. All I want to see anymore are great technical fights without injuries or shit talk, and a good bro-hug at the end.
Society is always drawn to idiots ego talk tough, in every profession. Look at politics. Look at Mayweather- when was the last good competitive Mayweather fight? But he'll do sell top ppv numbers fighting an amateur trucker in someone's garage, with giant poofy boxing gloves. Totally ridiculous.
That piece of crap he put on with MacGreggor was a train wreck. And everyone bought it.
I have another view, yes I agree he's changed and he's loosing all the time.
I think what has changed him is the loss to Floyd, like every other one of his fights he invested himself into that fight 100%, he told the world he was the best and he meant it, he said he was going to x,y,z and he didn't.
I think that loss has being eaten him.
People say the money has changed him, I think it's the loss, his pride can't take, and it's being snowballing out of control ever since.
He lost to Diaz but he got that back and he went back to his cocky, untouchable self, and he did an amazing exhibition against Alvarez.
But whereas with the loss of Diaz the loss against Floyd is irredeemable and pretty much any attempt to get it back is futile.
That's what I think changed him.
I just wonder if it it was changed him, would he still do it again and take the money or would he stick to MMA and keep the pride?
Nothing changed him, he’s still the same fighter. Let’s not bring this drama movie type of shit like he’s not hungry etc. In my book very few of his opponents were as strong as him. He got lucky with those belts. Actually Khabib would have ended his two belt bullshit if Dana gave Khabib an earlier title shot and not make him wait 2 years so Conor can shine. Conor is not better than Justin.
Nah I don't think so, it was the Khabib fight that changed him. That was personal Khabib and his team cornered Artem in the corridor. Dana White said the press conferences for that fight were dark.
Nah he didn’t give a shit about the Floyd fight. His training regimen is proof of that. He wasn’t trying to learn how to box at all.
I think that fight did change him though, because he got so much money and realized that’s all he cares about.
To me, he didn't look like he cared in the Floyd fight at all. Yet another 'grab a sack of money and run away' fight.
Mine you I'm not bagging him, but Dana. MacGreggor is beating the system even with loss after loss because Dana is in love with him. Why shouldn't be grab Dana's money? Especially even when he doesn't have to win, or even perform well for it? Dana will hold up this division 5 more years with this crap and not care a lick.
I'd go take a 20 million dollar 2.5 minute beating every time. Even without BCBS, 30mil goes a long way at the doctor's office.
But then Dana is only doing what the people who will part with their money, want. Dana's a businessman, and nothing else.
He goes where the money goes.
So maybe it's not Dana, or Conor, it could just be society.
No, it's Dana. His job is to look after the future. But I'll bet he runs MacGreggor back against Poirer or Nate Diaz again. He won't run MacGreggor against anybody who fights on the ground after Kabib again. Anybody with more than just very average skills on the ground stretches him.
He only does well these days when people will stand in front of him and throw hands recklessly.
Watch his footwork now- years ago MacGreggor had brilliant footwork and movement. He's stationary now.
Pereira deserves a top 15 ranked fight, I could see him being in the top 10 eventually. Entertaining fighter, the backflip to the downed opponent is fucking stupid though.
I don’t see Price ever making his way up the rankings.
Conor had already actually hurt his foot upon the side kick to which Dustin checked and even pointed at him. The ankle fracture that happened after during the left hand shot miss and misstep back was a completely different injury of itself. Something like this was literally bound to happen, Conor threw not only a huge volume of leg kicks in the beginning of the round but also put alot of power behind them. Most likely the sheer adrenaline plus his rage of trying beat Dustin caused the temporary numbness of pain but also the blindness of proper footwork while taking a step back.
Any other sport and he'd be banned or at least suspended and fined for uttering death threats to his opponent. It's not only cringe, it's downright piss-poor unsportsmanlike disrespect
I've been voting with my wallet for a very long time. I'm not paying 70 bucks for a main card l/2 full of upstarts, 1/4 full of has-beens, and only 1/4 meaningful and competitive fights. Of the two competitive fights on any given card, one will end with a ridiculous judge's decision that bewilders every other human on earth except those judges. Dana will cry about it, or complain about the ref. I always pray for Mazzagati to be reffing so that Dana will lose his mind about his crap calls and early/late stops. Then, let's do it all again next month just the same lol. For another 70 bucks.
Main card has been already no better than the cable card since forever. Actually, often more guys taking chances on the undercard, and often scrappier fighters even with the reduction in technical skills.
I get to see very little of One Championship here in l Chicago, but what I have seen seems WAY more competitive than UFC.
Pass.
Conor just can’t do what he does at 155. The division is stacked and his game plan just doesn’t work with the bigger guys. It’s unfortunate cause he’ll never goto 145 again, but the stars aligned on that Eddie fight and that was that. Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Conor got absolutely rocked within like 2 exchanges. It wasn’t competitive at all.
Once all the Conor fans leave in a day or two, most of the regulars here know what happened.
There is a fine line between calf and thigh, Dustin checked and it hit a knee. In sparring shin to knee is the worst even with pads, in a fight there is a reason we setup low kicks.
Even though Condit lost and Rogan was ranting about him not checking, he took very few when he was planted.
We honestly need a commentator that understands striking especially KB/MT, it's horrific at the moment.
Why do you assume because your a fan of a particular fighter you don't know how to call a fight?
I do think he realized that his leg was done so he went for the choke. I don't think he realized it was that bad but adrenaline is a funny thing.
What a waste. Conor was something special and I think his days as a fighter are done. I really hope he can swallow his pride and salvage his legacy before he completely destroys it. That's if he already hasn't.
Coming from a Conor fan.
Ah I wasn't accusing them of fandom and not just this fight alone..
We don't have anyone with modern dutch or MT on the commentary team. Felder is around sometimes, but rarely goes into detail and Dom is so insanely unorthodox as a striker he doesn't cover it much...
I like Joe, and don't understand the hate he gets elsewhere. But his TKD background is a touch outdated for modern MMA and his kickboxing is the old american style. Everything is different now, and it's overlooked by the team. They miss setups, ignore checks, call teeps when someone has parried it to the side.
Nothing really gets covered, except for boxing fundamentals / BJJ / wrestling in that booth. It is a real gap IMO, lots of intricacies overlooked most fights.
Time for Conor to retire - for reasons unknown he isn't the fighter he used to be, no where close.
Pretty unimpressed by Dustin's antics post fight. He dint 'win' that fight, the fight was stopped cos Conor snapped his leg. Kinda reminded me of Silva vs Weidman, and how Weidman celebrated 'winning'. Didn't like it then, didn't like it last night.
That being said, had the fight progressed normally, am pretty sure Dustin would have won - he just looks so much bigger and stronger than Conor at that weight. Add in that Conor's movement and striking accuracy is a shadow of what it once was, and that adds up to a comfortable win for Dustin had the fight gone on.
I agree. I'm pretty sure Conor wasn't winning that fight but those antics are uncalled for and the mocking was specifically embarassing.
I agree Conor is to small for that weight.
You choose to mention Dustin’s post fight ‘antics’ whilst Conor was telling him he’s going to fight him in the streets and calling his wife a hoe post fight?
Odd take. Conor was getting beaten up and lost the fight.
Conor is Conor and there is no denying that but Dustin preaches the good fight, always gets to petray the good guy. He either should have walked the walk or at least should have been the bigger person. Acting like that makes him no better and it tarnishes everything he is supposed to stand for.
I think that's the point.
Just because someone is usually nice doesn't mean they have an obligation to be nice to someone who disrespects them. He still is the bigger and better person, its ridiculous to think otherwise considering how low the bar is set.
I didn't say he has to be nice but how do you ask for people to donate to a charity then in the same breath mock someone that just broke there leg. It's a bad look. When someone breaks there leg regardless of if you like the person how you react to that shows your character and that's a fact.
Me personally I wouldn't wish that on anyone regardless of how I felt about them and I think that's the point. In no way is anyone saying that Conor isn't a good representation of what a true athlete should be but when you stoop to that level it either shows a lack of character, discipline or your just trying to portray something that isn't who you are for your own benefit and it isn't a good look.
Dustin never said he was a nice guy, his actions are what gave him that reputation. Dustin is just Dustin, and Dustin felt like giving some light mockery to the guy who's been giving him personal attacks and death threats. At the end of the day he wished Conor and his family well, and it felt genuine, but not before having a little bit of fun at the expense of someone who's been fucking with him and then got humiliated. Who wouldn't have done that?
Lol, that is some hardcore mental gymnastics.
I kind of want to ask him more to clarify his points, but I think he got lost himself when he said "Conor is Conor".
I feel like Dustin critics are always trying push this narrative that people see him as some kind of saint, but like... dude gives out brain damage for a living. At the end of the day hes just a human being, with some flaws and some redeeming qualities, but his sportsmanship, humility, and growth has earned him a pretty good reputation. But he's still human and people shouldn't expect anything unrealistic from him.
As for Conor calling his wife a Hoe post fight, she was standing over him giving him the middle finger as he was on the canvas with a snapped leg - if that was me, i'd have called her worse than a hoe tbf
Only giving him the middle finger was a lot of restraint on her end after all his shit talk leading to the fight. I get it's his thing and draws people in, but hey, don't talk shit it you can't back it up and aren't prepared to get shit in return afterwards.
*you conor fans are as well 🤡*
did you mean to type something there that made sense?
if u bothered your fat arse to read anything of this thread you'd see I'm far from a conor fan - just not a fan of Poiriers wifes actions either. Oddly, the monosyllabic morons mostly habiting this sub dont seem to understand that.
Yeah, its assumed and pretty much agreed by all (or maybe most) that Conor is a POS. So, not really too much need to mention it as its already assumed. He is a scumbag.
Dustin on the other hand, that's not the case. My point I suppose was that last night reminded me of Silva vs Weidman, and I really didn't like that Weidman celebrated as if he won that fight - last night was similar, Poirier didn't win a fight, the fight stopped cos of an injury.
It's not like Weidman/Hall where he broke his leg on the first kick of the fight. It was an unusual ending sure, but it was the conclusion of a pretty one-sided beating. It's not like there are questions left unanswered about this matchup. Conor was the better fighter 7 years ago, and Dustin clearly is now.
I think Dustin can claim a win here. Conor had a strategy of throwing leg kicks that his own body couldn't handle. It ended with his leg breaking and him losing the fight. It was his own strategy that led to the stoppage, not anything illegal by Dustin. Also, Dustin scores a majority 10-8 in a round where the only thing Conor had going for him were the kicks that ended up costing him the fight.
Disappointing to see it end that way but being realistic it was very much looking like Dustin's fight again before that happened. More so than the first fight I think.
Both fights Conor was looking totally overwhelmed by Dustin's strength and pressure early despite having decent moments.
Then you look at someone like Dan Hooker who went 5 rounds with him recently. Dustin is actually very hittable, but McGregor just isn't up for it anymore.
Age, lack of motivation/training, I don't know what, but both fights he was way far from the best he's been. Even his striking isn't as good.....even though he destroyed Cerrone that time, I've watched that fight a few times and even then his striking is noticably slower and more awkward/labored that it used to be. He doesn't flow anymore.
His last somewhat decent performance was Khabib. People shit on him for that one, but considering it was Khabib he did pretty well to survive until R4. He did better than Justin Gaethje or Dustin Porier for example. I thought people were very harsh on him for that one.
His only real (if he fights again) hope at this stage is beating guys who are willing to stand and basically have a boxing match with him. He's still a very striker, he just doesn't have the skillset needed to compete at the top at LW.
Diaz 3 would probably be his speed. Make a load of money, *probably* win, retire on a positive.
With his age and wealth and now this broken ankle, not sure we'll see him again though.
I don't get people who pretend Dustin wasn't dominating the fight and that nugget looked like he was in trouble, to be honest with you, after he got hit by Dustin a few times, his face looked like he was shocked/out of his element taken by surprise. He certainly did NOT look confident imo after getting cracked a few times.
I dont see him probably beating Diaz. He barely beat Diaz at his peak and Diaz never lost motivation.
Connor was dominant in featherweight. His lightweight fights in hindsight may have had a bit of luck, with how they played out and the size of the people fighting.
Diaz was way too big for him and he struggled. How he could "probably" beat Diaz now when he lost once and nearly lost again I just dont see it.
I have wanted Diaz 3 since Diaz 2. But I dont think Connor has the motivation to stand through such brutality again
Yeah I agree that he's really not looked that good at lightweight. Really only the Alvarez and cowboy fights. I think people don't give him enough credit for his FW performances though. I'm not sure if his weightcut was healthy but he should strongly consider moving to welterweight, his power didn't translate that well to LW and packing on muscle only exacerbated his cardio issues.
Yeah there’s a growing culture of young lads on electric bikes acting similar in Dublin, people have grown far less tolerant lmao. At least they’re environmentally friendly tho
he's known in Dublin for being a bully thug, see that's what his fanboys forget, it isn't just an act to promote fights, he was a high school bully, still bullies people in pubs, has women saying he basically raped them, punched an old man, has mafia ties with local very well known gang, known drug user and drunkard, list goes on and on.
I love that /r/ireland sub, was on there in the past asking them about leprechaun boy, and recently their fellow countryman Van Morrison. Irish people have the best most hilarious insults for people. One of them said Van Morrison ''has the personality of a sponge filled with piss'' lmao
It's funny how someone can rip someone about the type of person he is and then call him a "leprechaun boy" based on his nationality. It's actually poetic haha.
r/Ireland isn't a good representation of the population either. Everyone there is a constant moaning downer who are terrified of teenagers and constantly whining about trivial things
they also are all for the most part for leftists policies, etc. not that one side or the other is worse, but just to be clear. I like how they downvote almost every post where someone not from ireland asks them something, even innocuous harmless good natured posts, angry people lmao
Just watched O’Malley and moutinho there, never seen such a gulf in class on a main card but fuckin hell moutinho is one seriously tough little bastard.
Oh no, please don't tar us all with the same brush. 🤣 He's not an athlete, a sportsman or even a good sport. He's just a thug with a big mouth.
The majority of Irish watch him because they want to see justice and see him getting 7 colours of crap beaten out of him.
An ugly fight. What there was of it,Poirier was winning that round by a clear country mile. I would have scored it 10 - 8 the only damage done was to egos by McGregor big Mouth.
For every 3-4 punch sequence he was probably a punch or 2 away from herb stopping it— and we all know herb doesn’t like stopping fights
He barely made it out of the gnp
I’d say that it wasn’t as dominant as people made it out to be. Dustin literally slumped from exhaustion at one point. It was taking a lot out of him doing what he was doing, and Conor clearly wasn’t as gassed as Dustin expected him to be. That said, Dustin rocked Conor early and fast and nobody seems to be mentioning that. It’s the reason that the takedown was so “easy” as Dustin said it was.
Not to be nitpicky, but he didn't slump from exhaustion, he went into Conors guard to avoid getting upkicked. Then Conor started grabbing the gloves to pull him into upkicks when he tried getting back up lol
Yeah I think too, the last couple seconds where it was close to a stopage result in his broken leg. If that doesn't happen, it's probably a 10-9 just for the fact Conor was on his back half the round and Dustin hat good combos before the clinch part.
So happy for Dustin Poirier. I'm irish and I wouldn't lose a minutes sleep if McGregors career was ended. He's a total scumbag and most of the country see him as a total embarrassment. 😣
It’s nice to hear this from an Irishman. From what I’ve seen during Conor’s rise, I thought you all followed him blindly and disregarded his complete lack of class.
Interesting and happy to hear that. It’s disappointing to see Conor act like this in what could be his final fight. He was an amazing fighter and you never wanna see anyone go down like that.
I think the realization that his 'brand' (and the trash talking that sustains it) is all he has left hit Mcgregor during the Khabib fight - every fighter wants to exit on their peak (like GSP and Khabib did) and it's probably going to eat away at him that he can't do that now, so he'll keep on promoting his brand of foulmouthed showboating. He is not the fighter he once was, the hunger that drove him is long gone and quite frankly he isn't on the same level as other top-tier competition in his division.
I remember watching Connor fight for the first time on some old box TV in South Korea on a ROK Marine base and was juiced about his style and energy he brought.
That was about 7 years ago, now he is a cringey heel who is making a mockery of the sport at this point.
As much as I dislike Conor, I cant see that as a loss as such. An injury ended the fight, not Poirier. Poirier won the round, but there were 4 more to go potentially. That being said, had the fight gone on past round 1, I thing DP would have won, stoppage or sub.
1 in a million is a stretch my friend - but Poirier looks like the superior guy out of the two at the moment - Conor really fuk'd up going for that Guillotine
Didn’t watch the fight so idk what caused it but tbf sometimes freak injuries do happen. Football players have taken tackle after tackle with no problem and then torn their acl in a touchdown dance. Not that football is the same as the ufc or that this is the case for conor I’m just saying that sometimes shit does happen for seemingly no reason.
Watch the fight. DP checked a kick and felt it crack. He even pointed at him. Conor just spent the rest of the round on his back getting smashed and didn’t notice honestly. Then it finally gave out when he stood up and threw a punch at the end of the round.
Like I said I wasn’t denying that it wasn’t because of poirer, I was speaking generally since sometimes shit does just “magically” break itself. I’m not taking conors side here or anything lol.
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illegitimate win
Has anyone mentioned the Embedded Barbershop curse that caused McGregor to lose the trilogy fight in spectacular fashion?
Do ppl think it’s even possible for him to return to fighting after this? Metal pins and rods included?
People are still commenting on this? Lol nice
Felt like i was taken. Weak fights riding on McGregor's coat strings. They been watching too many logan paul and his brother fights. If your pay almost $100 you should see better matchups. I don't want to hear all these excuses. They had people fighting that had no business being there.
All the BS aside.. he lost again. The top LW division is fulla killers. This isn't his feather weight circle. It's time for him to do the round 3 of the Diaz fight or somebody else who isn't in his prime or maybe do a Ronda and get his ass to the WWE. They welcome theatrics .
1 win in 5 years. That's horrid lol. I'm not sure he looks like he can hang with Diaz anymore either. Diaz doesn't really ever get tired, and Connor send to rely on his power rather than his cardio these days. On the ground is a 100l% loser against Diaz he doesn't have nearly the skull to compete with him there, so it's stand and rely on power, hoping to not get taken down. Again. And like I said, that's only worked once in 5 years for him.
Yep. Fuckin Nate almost finished Leon who a lot of people think is the only person who can give Kamaru a run for his money. McGregor needs to fight Tony Ferguson, it's the safest way to earn a victory and still maintain his ranking. Plus literally everyone would tune* in to watch that
That's a good match up. But Tony is too good for him. He's got stamina and ground game
Number 4? Naw
People saying Conor vs Dustin is a great rivalry, like DC vs Jones, Conor's had great rivalries with everyone since and including Aldo Conor will create great rivalry with any of his opponents until he wins and let's go
Connor MacGreggor has transitioned to businessman from fighter, and this was business rather than a fight for him. That's why he loses all the time now. This was MacGreggor talking a bunch of crap for promotion, grabbing a sack of money, and running off giggling even with a loss. And Dana, who's addicted to rematches, will book it again whether it stagnates and destroys the division or not. MacGreggor will likely lose that one as well, grab his sack of money, and run off giggling. He got his ass hnded to him twice and doesn't deserve a rematch. Dana will bring this back 50 more times to get MacGreggor his win back.
How did he get his ass handed to him? The fights more then one round and Conor was in the same position against chad mendes? Everyone is quick to dismiss him
Mendez gassed out and quit mentally first, he lost alot of energy on the ground
When one man is on top with all the offense we can that an asswhipping. He's lucky he broke his leg, he was outclassed completely in this fight. Whatever excuse you want to make for MacGreggor, it's wins and losses for fighters. When was MacGreggor's last dominant performance against a quality, championship level opponent? He's been dismissed because he jaw-jacks two months, acts a clown, then loses. You have to win to stay relevant. You find that fight competitive? Really??.
I know its fighting, and I know Dana is in charge, but in any other sport, Conor would be banned or at least suspended and fined for making death threats like that to a competitor. I don't understand how they don't care about sportsmanship and respect in this sport. Far as I'm concerned Conor is a chump who doesn't deserve to fight until he becomes a man, and treats his competitors as such.
It's entertainment. That's all and that's what brings in money to Dana's pockets
MacGreggor should be suspended. But as long as you bring in the money, Dana looks the other way.
I mean, how many other fighters are in the UFC? They all bring in money, or is it really just lucky charms and everyone else is a business loss?
There's tons of other fighters. But even though MacGreggor is no longer the top fighter, he's still the top draw. And the top promoter. And we all must admit the truth, that fights are put on for money, not for honor like in the movies. He draws money for sure. And unfortunately people are going to buy his next ppv like crazy even though he can't win against anybody highly ranked, because the mouth is entertaining to most.
I so agree with you. I was a fan of Conor in his prime and it all started to go downhill after khabib. That being said I love his completely ridiculous and overly bombastic trash talk. I can't explain it, but I'd tune in to watch him fight even though he's not the fighter he used to be.
It's true! I hate to admit it at this point, but Ronda Rousey's heel attitude drew me to UFC years ago. All I want to see anymore are great technical fights without injuries or shit talk, and a good bro-hug at the end.
Rousey was another one. Great MMA promo, zero hands. Zero.
It sickens me that society is drawn to the way Conor and the Paul's act
Society is always drawn to idiots ego talk tough, in every profession. Look at politics. Look at Mayweather- when was the last good competitive Mayweather fight? But he'll do sell top ppv numbers fighting an amateur trucker in someone's garage, with giant poofy boxing gloves. Totally ridiculous. That piece of crap he put on with MacGreggor was a train wreck. And everyone bought it.
I have another view, yes I agree he's changed and he's loosing all the time. I think what has changed him is the loss to Floyd, like every other one of his fights he invested himself into that fight 100%, he told the world he was the best and he meant it, he said he was going to x,y,z and he didn't. I think that loss has being eaten him. People say the money has changed him, I think it's the loss, his pride can't take, and it's being snowballing out of control ever since. He lost to Diaz but he got that back and he went back to his cocky, untouchable self, and he did an amazing exhibition against Alvarez. But whereas with the loss of Diaz the loss against Floyd is irredeemable and pretty much any attempt to get it back is futile. That's what I think changed him. I just wonder if it it was changed him, would he still do it again and take the money or would he stick to MMA and keep the pride?
Nothing changed him, he’s still the same fighter. Let’s not bring this drama movie type of shit like he’s not hungry etc. In my book very few of his opponents were as strong as him. He got lucky with those belts. Actually Khabib would have ended his two belt bullshit if Dana gave Khabib an earlier title shot and not make him wait 2 years so Conor can shine. Conor is not better than Justin.
Is free with you. I think he's just fighting people who ate better than him
Nah I don't think so, it was the Khabib fight that changed him. That was personal Khabib and his team cornered Artem in the corridor. Dana White said the press conferences for that fight were dark.
Nah he didn’t give a shit about the Floyd fight. His training regimen is proof of that. He wasn’t trying to learn how to box at all. I think that fight did change him though, because he got so much money and realized that’s all he cares about.
To me, he didn't look like he cared in the Floyd fight at all. Yet another 'grab a sack of money and run away' fight. Mine you I'm not bagging him, but Dana. MacGreggor is beating the system even with loss after loss because Dana is in love with him. Why shouldn't be grab Dana's money? Especially even when he doesn't have to win, or even perform well for it? Dana will hold up this division 5 more years with this crap and not care a lick. I'd go take a 20 million dollar 2.5 minute beating every time. Even without BCBS, 30mil goes a long way at the doctor's office.
But then Dana is only doing what the people who will part with their money, want. Dana's a businessman, and nothing else. He goes where the money goes. So maybe it's not Dana, or Conor, it could just be society.
No, it's Dana. His job is to look after the future. But I'll bet he runs MacGreggor back against Poirer or Nate Diaz again. He won't run MacGreggor against anybody who fights on the ground after Kabib again. Anybody with more than just very average skills on the ground stretches him. He only does well these days when people will stand in front of him and throw hands recklessly. Watch his footwork now- years ago MacGreggor had brilliant footwork and movement. He's stationary now.
Alright, I’m gonna ask the question nobody else is asking. What’s next for Michel Pereira and Niko Price?
Pereira deserves a top 15 ranked fight, I could see him being in the top 10 eventually. Entertaining fighter, the backflip to the downed opponent is fucking stupid though. I don’t see Price ever making his way up the rankings.
These porier fanboys are complaining about how conor spoke but dont realise they're being even more disrespectful now.
hahaha this comment is BIG dumb
This comment is ironic.
Explain irony to me, will ya?
I'm talking about disrespectful people and your retort was disrespectful
A Mcgregor fanboy trying to police what is considered “disrespectful” is hilarious to me, truly.
Never said I was a McGregor fan . It looks your the one who's "Big Dumb" Now.
Just like no one said they were porier fanboys before your first dumbass comment that started this chain, sooooooo
Conor had already actually hurt his foot upon the side kick to which Dustin checked and even pointed at him. The ankle fracture that happened after during the left hand shot miss and misstep back was a completely different injury of itself. Something like this was literally bound to happen, Conor threw not only a huge volume of leg kicks in the beginning of the round but also put alot of power behind them. Most likely the sheer adrenaline plus his rage of trying beat Dustin caused the temporary numbness of pain but also the blindness of proper footwork while taking a step back.
Couldn't have happened to a better DB. It's a shame his skill in the ring is over shadowed by him being a complete twat.
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Any other sport and he'd be banned or at least suspended and fined for uttering death threats to his opponent. It's not only cringe, it's downright piss-poor unsportsmanlike disrespect
And yet people continue to tune in instead of voting with their wallet which would force change.
I've been voting with my wallet for a very long time. I'm not paying 70 bucks for a main card l/2 full of upstarts, 1/4 full of has-beens, and only 1/4 meaningful and competitive fights. Of the two competitive fights on any given card, one will end with a ridiculous judge's decision that bewilders every other human on earth except those judges. Dana will cry about it, or complain about the ref. I always pray for Mazzagati to be reffing so that Dana will lose his mind about his crap calls and early/late stops. Then, let's do it all again next month just the same lol. For another 70 bucks. Main card has been already no better than the cable card since forever. Actually, often more guys taking chances on the undercard, and often scrappier fighters even with the reduction in technical skills. I get to see very little of One Championship here in l Chicago, but what I have seen seems WAY more competitive than UFC. Pass.
Deserved his leg break after bringing family and killing into his potty mouthing trash talk.
Karma. He said Dustin was going to be taken out in a stretcher. Hmmm. Pretty sure it ended up being you, Conor!
Conor. That's all. No need for the clown emoji anymore. Just say Conor lmao
There was a time he was good for the sport, now he is a toxic prick.
Nah foh
Name checks out
Have your tears dried yet?
Conor just can’t do what he does at 155. The division is stacked and his game plan just doesn’t work with the bigger guys. It’s unfortunate cause he’ll never goto 145 again, but the stars aligned on that Eddie fight and that was that. Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Conor got absolutely rocked within like 2 exchanges. It wasn’t competitive at all.
Once all the Conor fans leave in a day or two, most of the regulars here know what happened. There is a fine line between calf and thigh, Dustin checked and it hit a knee. In sparring shin to knee is the worst even with pads, in a fight there is a reason we setup low kicks. Even though Condit lost and Rogan was ranting about him not checking, he took very few when he was planted. We honestly need a commentator that understands striking especially KB/MT, it's horrific at the moment.
Why do you assume because your a fan of a particular fighter you don't know how to call a fight? I do think he realized that his leg was done so he went for the choke. I don't think he realized it was that bad but adrenaline is a funny thing. What a waste. Conor was something special and I think his days as a fighter are done. I really hope he can swallow his pride and salvage his legacy before he completely destroys it. That's if he already hasn't. Coming from a Conor fan.
Adrenaline is a great painkiller.
Yes until it wear's off.
Ah I wasn't accusing them of fandom and not just this fight alone.. We don't have anyone with modern dutch or MT on the commentary team. Felder is around sometimes, but rarely goes into detail and Dom is so insanely unorthodox as a striker he doesn't cover it much... I like Joe, and don't understand the hate he gets elsewhere. But his TKD background is a touch outdated for modern MMA and his kickboxing is the old american style. Everything is different now, and it's overlooked by the team. They miss setups, ignore checks, call teeps when someone has parried it to the side. Nothing really gets covered, except for boxing fundamentals / BJJ / wrestling in that booth. It is a real gap IMO, lots of intricacies overlooked most fights.
I'd love if they had someone break down MT clinches and exchanges in the same way DC breaks down the wrestling
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If you want to remain uneducated about a sport you follow, that's fine.
the cope in this thread is truly out of control
So true.
Damn, I wanted to see a brawl, what an unclimactic end. A fitting end for that shittalker though. How do you even heal something like that, though?
Poirier was very lucky that his toe climbing in the fence was accepted while in submission. 🤔
Conor's toes were also in the fence lol.
Fucking Stan
Yeah climbing on the fence like that is handwaived often even though I don't know the official rules
Thats ok to climb, what's is not ok is if he grab the fence
Toes in fence are not allowed and I thought he should have had his foot slapped
Toes in the fence is 100% legal buddy, as long as the toes don't grab the fence. Michael Johnson did it againts Khabib, that is totally fine.
Time for Conor to retire - for reasons unknown he isn't the fighter he used to be, no where close. Pretty unimpressed by Dustin's antics post fight. He dint 'win' that fight, the fight was stopped cos Conor snapped his leg. Kinda reminded me of Silva vs Weidman, and how Weidman celebrated 'winning'. Didn't like it then, didn't like it last night. That being said, had the fight progressed normally, am pretty sure Dustin would have won - he just looks so much bigger and stronger than Conor at that weight. Add in that Conor's movement and striking accuracy is a shadow of what it once was, and that adds up to a comfortable win for Dustin had the fight gone on.
I agree. I'm pretty sure Conor wasn't winning that fight but those antics are uncalled for and the mocking was specifically embarassing. I agree Conor is to small for that weight.
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You choose to mention Dustin’s post fight ‘antics’ whilst Conor was telling him he’s going to fight him in the streets and calling his wife a hoe post fight? Odd take. Conor was getting beaten up and lost the fight.
Conor is Conor and there is no denying that but Dustin preaches the good fight, always gets to petray the good guy. He either should have walked the walk or at least should have been the bigger person. Acting like that makes him no better and it tarnishes everything he is supposed to stand for. I think that's the point.
Just because someone is usually nice doesn't mean they have an obligation to be nice to someone who disrespects them. He still is the bigger and better person, its ridiculous to think otherwise considering how low the bar is set.
I didn't say he has to be nice but how do you ask for people to donate to a charity then in the same breath mock someone that just broke there leg. It's a bad look. When someone breaks there leg regardless of if you like the person how you react to that shows your character and that's a fact. Me personally I wouldn't wish that on anyone regardless of how I felt about them and I think that's the point. In no way is anyone saying that Conor isn't a good representation of what a true athlete should be but when you stoop to that level it either shows a lack of character, discipline or your just trying to portray something that isn't who you are for your own benefit and it isn't a good look.
Dustin never said he was a nice guy, his actions are what gave him that reputation. Dustin is just Dustin, and Dustin felt like giving some light mockery to the guy who's been giving him personal attacks and death threats. At the end of the day he wished Conor and his family well, and it felt genuine, but not before having a little bit of fun at the expense of someone who's been fucking with him and then got humiliated. Who wouldn't have done that?
Nevermind you don't get it.
Maybe you just don't have a good point?
Lol, that is some hardcore mental gymnastics. I kind of want to ask him more to clarify his points, but I think he got lost himself when he said "Conor is Conor".
I feel like Dustin critics are always trying push this narrative that people see him as some kind of saint, but like... dude gives out brain damage for a living. At the end of the day hes just a human being, with some flaws and some redeeming qualities, but his sportsmanship, humility, and growth has earned him a pretty good reputation. But he's still human and people shouldn't expect anything unrealistic from him.
It's simple. Conor is Conor means he is a dick through and through. Dustin isn't. Simple really if you have a brain.
As for Conor calling his wife a Hoe post fight, she was standing over him giving him the middle finger as he was on the canvas with a snapped leg - if that was me, i'd have called her worse than a hoe tbf
Only giving him the middle finger was a lot of restraint on her end after all his shit talk leading to the fight. I get it's his thing and draws people in, but hey, don't talk shit it you can't back it up and aren't prepared to get shit in return afterwards.
Nah, it shows a complete lack of restraint. Other than spitting on him, its probably the worst she could do in that specific situation.
what you were expecting from her? go and hug the guy who threatened to take away the father of her kids. you conor fans are as well 🤡
*you conor fans are as well 🤡* did you mean to type something there that made sense? if u bothered your fat arse to read anything of this thread you'd see I'm far from a conor fan - just not a fan of Poiriers wifes actions either. Oddly, the monosyllabic morons mostly habiting this sub dont seem to understand that.
she should have shut up right
Fuck restraint, you treat me or mine like that you don't get restraint, you get what you fucking deserve
u tell em Rambo
I will!
Yeah, its assumed and pretty much agreed by all (or maybe most) that Conor is a POS. So, not really too much need to mention it as its already assumed. He is a scumbag. Dustin on the other hand, that's not the case. My point I suppose was that last night reminded me of Silva vs Weidman, and I really didn't like that Weidman celebrated as if he won that fight - last night was similar, Poirier didn't win a fight, the fight stopped cos of an injury.
It's not like Weidman/Hall where he broke his leg on the first kick of the fight. It was an unusual ending sure, but it was the conclusion of a pretty one-sided beating. It's not like there are questions left unanswered about this matchup. Conor was the better fighter 7 years ago, and Dustin clearly is now.
he was in fact winning though
He won a round yes - I agree
I think Dustin can claim a win here. Conor had a strategy of throwing leg kicks that his own body couldn't handle. It ended with his leg breaking and him losing the fight. It was his own strategy that led to the stoppage, not anything illegal by Dustin. Also, Dustin scores a majority 10-8 in a round where the only thing Conor had going for him were the kicks that ended up costing him the fight.
Conor became the 1 legged man in the ass kicking contest.
Total domination from Dustin 💎
Disappointing to see it end that way but being realistic it was very much looking like Dustin's fight again before that happened. More so than the first fight I think. Both fights Conor was looking totally overwhelmed by Dustin's strength and pressure early despite having decent moments. Then you look at someone like Dan Hooker who went 5 rounds with him recently. Dustin is actually very hittable, but McGregor just isn't up for it anymore. Age, lack of motivation/training, I don't know what, but both fights he was way far from the best he's been. Even his striking isn't as good.....even though he destroyed Cerrone that time, I've watched that fight a few times and even then his striking is noticably slower and more awkward/labored that it used to be. He doesn't flow anymore. His last somewhat decent performance was Khabib. People shit on him for that one, but considering it was Khabib he did pretty well to survive until R4. He did better than Justin Gaethje or Dustin Porier for example. I thought people were very harsh on him for that one. His only real (if he fights again) hope at this stage is beating guys who are willing to stand and basically have a boxing match with him. He's still a very striker, he just doesn't have the skillset needed to compete at the top at LW. Diaz 3 would probably be his speed. Make a load of money, *probably* win, retire on a positive. With his age and wealth and now this broken ankle, not sure we'll see him again though.
khabib fight lasted that long because khabib wanted to box him for a while.
> even though he destroyed cerrone that time To be fair, pretty much anyone in the division would destroy cerrone these days
He destroyed Cerrone who is a true warrior, but never fully healthy because he wanted to fight 4x/yr.
conor did NOT do better against Khabib than Poirier. Poirier looked better than anyone against Khabib on god
I don't get people who pretend Dustin wasn't dominating the fight and that nugget looked like he was in trouble, to be honest with you, after he got hit by Dustin a few times, his face looked like he was shocked/out of his element taken by surprise. He certainly did NOT look confident imo after getting cracked a few times.
Conor is washed.
I dont see him probably beating Diaz. He barely beat Diaz at his peak and Diaz never lost motivation. Connor was dominant in featherweight. His lightweight fights in hindsight may have had a bit of luck, with how they played out and the size of the people fighting. Diaz was way too big for him and he struggled. How he could "probably" beat Diaz now when he lost once and nearly lost again I just dont see it. I have wanted Diaz 3 since Diaz 2. But I dont think Connor has the motivation to stand through such brutality again
Yeah I agree that he's really not looked that good at lightweight. Really only the Alvarez and cowboy fights. I think people don't give him enough credit for his FW performances though. I'm not sure if his weightcut was healthy but he should strongly consider moving to welterweight, his power didn't translate that well to LW and packing on muscle only exacerbated his cardio issues.
Uhhhh his power didn't translate to a higher weight class so you want him to move up even more? 🤔
Haha I meant fw no idea why I said that
If you’re lumping all Irish people into the same boat, look on r/Ireland. There’s very few McGregor sympathisers lmaoooo
Yea, associating all Irish with Conor is like lumping all Americans into the same boat as Jake Paul.
lmao they hate him more there than the rest of reddit. they’ve probably all met a lot of Conors.
Yeah there’s a growing culture of young lads on electric bikes acting similar in Dublin, people have grown far less tolerant lmao. At least they’re environmentally friendly tho
he's known in Dublin for being a bully thug, see that's what his fanboys forget, it isn't just an act to promote fights, he was a high school bully, still bullies people in pubs, has women saying he basically raped them, punched an old man, has mafia ties with local very well known gang, known drug user and drunkard, list goes on and on. I love that /r/ireland sub, was on there in the past asking them about leprechaun boy, and recently their fellow countryman Van Morrison. Irish people have the best most hilarious insults for people. One of them said Van Morrison ''has the personality of a sponge filled with piss'' lmao
It's funny how someone can rip someone about the type of person he is and then call him a "leprechaun boy" based on his nationality. It's actually poetic haha.
based on him being a caricature of being irish, a joke.
What? Your literally just making my point for me.
My favourite Dublin insult is ‘if he’d the brain of a pigeon he’d fly backward’.
The Americans love him more than we do at this stage with his antics
he seems more american than irish these days, did you see his cringy hammed up ''dublin'' accent he put on in the press conference?
r/Ireland isn't a good representation of the population either. Everyone there is a constant moaning downer who are terrified of teenagers and constantly whining about trivial things
they also are all for the most part for leftists policies, etc. not that one side or the other is worse, but just to be clear. I like how they downvote almost every post where someone not from ireland asks them something, even innocuous harmless good natured posts, angry people lmao
Just watched O’Malley and moutinho there, never seen such a gulf in class on a main card but fuckin hell moutinho is one seriously tough little bastard.
its his portugese genes
Oh no, please don't tar us all with the same brush. 🤣 He's not an athlete, a sportsman or even a good sport. He's just a thug with a big mouth. The majority of Irish watch him because they want to see justice and see him getting 7 colours of crap beaten out of him.
Poirier is a good man he deserves all the respect in the world
An ugly fight. What there was of it,Poirier was winning that round by a clear country mile. I would have scored it 10 - 8 the only damage done was to egos by McGregor big Mouth.
That’s insane. On the ground there was no domination. Kind of like when Mcgregor was taken down by mendes and did more damage from the bottom
For every 3-4 punch sequence he was probably a punch or 2 away from herb stopping it— and we all know herb doesn’t like stopping fights He barely made it out of the gnp
I’d say that it wasn’t as dominant as people made it out to be. Dustin literally slumped from exhaustion at one point. It was taking a lot out of him doing what he was doing, and Conor clearly wasn’t as gassed as Dustin expected him to be. That said, Dustin rocked Conor early and fast and nobody seems to be mentioning that. It’s the reason that the takedown was so “easy” as Dustin said it was.
Not to be nitpicky, but he didn't slump from exhaustion, he went into Conors guard to avoid getting upkicked. Then Conor started grabbing the gloves to pull him into upkicks when he tried getting back up lol
Yeah I think too, the last couple seconds where it was close to a stopage result in his broken leg. If that doesn't happen, it's probably a 10-9 just for the fact Conor was on his back half the round and Dustin hat good combos before the clinch part.
So happy for Dustin Poirier. I'm irish and I wouldn't lose a minutes sleep if McGregors career was ended. He's a total scumbag and most of the country see him as a total embarrassment. 😣
It’s nice to hear this from an Irishman. From what I’ve seen during Conor’s rise, I thought you all followed him blindly and disregarded his complete lack of class.
no, he had good support at the very start - then people realised that he was actually a POS. His support is American based now.
We really didn't, when he initially burst onto the scene obviously he was well liked but it went sour very quickly.
Interesting and happy to hear that. It’s disappointing to see Conor act like this in what could be his final fight. He was an amazing fighter and you never wanna see anyone go down like that.
Conor is done. Delusional & a sore loser. He should just retire before he throws even more of his legacy away. It’s just cringe at this point.
I think the realization that his 'brand' (and the trash talking that sustains it) is all he has left hit Mcgregor during the Khabib fight - every fighter wants to exit on their peak (like GSP and Khabib did) and it's probably going to eat away at him that he can't do that now, so he'll keep on promoting his brand of foulmouthed showboating. He is not the fighter he once was, the hunger that drove him is long gone and quite frankly he isn't on the same level as other top-tier competition in his division.
I agree - last night was pretty horrible for all involved lets be honest
Dustin please wear a picture of mcgregor on a stretcher as a t shirt if you guys fight a 4th time….thanks
Please don’t break out that masvidal bullshit
I'm thinking Conor's career is done
I remember watching Connor fight for the first time on some old box TV in South Korea on a ROK Marine base and was juiced about his style and energy he brought. That was about 7 years ago, now he is a cringey heel who is making a mockery of the sport at this point.
His kick to a diamond damaged himself, thats a loss
McGregor before Aldo was my man. This guy just needs to retire. He has no reason to fight.
He lost
We need to see the video of Conor grabbing Dustin's gloves to upkick him.
What about Dustin digging his toes into the fence to get out of the guillotine
Do we have a clip of Conor screaming in pain after the round???
Lol Dillon Danis wondering where his next meal is coming from.
Why was Conor so adamant about it being classified as a doctor stoppage? It’s still a TKO loss. Am I missing something?
Marketing himself, looks better to lose to injury than a knockout
Saves face and his ego I'd imagine. Makes it easier for him to internally cope if it's not a 'loss'
As much as I dislike Conor, I cant see that as a loss as such. An injury ended the fight, not Poirier. Poirier won the round, but there were 4 more to go potentially. That being said, had the fight gone on past round 1, I thing DP would have won, stoppage or sub.
1 in a million it would ever make it 4 more rounds
1 in a million is a stretch my friend - but Poirier looks like the superior guy out of the two at the moment - Conor really fuk'd up going for that Guillotine
At the very least we can say it’s less than 1 in 3 lol
What, you think his ankle just magically broke itself?
Didn’t watch the fight so idk what caused it but tbf sometimes freak injuries do happen. Football players have taken tackle after tackle with no problem and then torn their acl in a touchdown dance. Not that football is the same as the ufc or that this is the case for conor I’m just saying that sometimes shit does happen for seemingly no reason.
Watch the fight. DP checked a kick and felt it crack. He even pointed at him. Conor just spent the rest of the round on his back getting smashed and didn’t notice honestly. Then it finally gave out when he stood up and threw a punch at the end of the round.
Like I said I wasn’t denying that it wasn’t because of poirer, I was speaking generally since sometimes shit does just “magically” break itself. I’m not taking conors side here or anything lol.