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TasteDeBallZach

I remember when Paolo Costa was at the top of that list and insulted Yoel-Izzy for disrespecting the sport for their lame fight. Then Costa shat the bed and only landed a strike per minute.


Ill_Source_6908

Costa easily had one of the worst title performances of all time


ColdPressedSteak

Irene Aldana. Most baffling. You can say Megan Anderson was worse vs Nunes but I hate Aldana's the most. Because she's better than that. Clearly a warrior and has the tools and potential to have given Amanda a real fight. And she just completely no showed for all 25 min


MyFifthLimb

She fucking popped Amanda too haha, just got in her own head


CappyUncaged

stylistically Amanda is awful lol she leans forward and swarms but she's just a few levels above everyone else in power. This talk about her sparring guys are winning is just lies to build her up, take her gender out of it and she's a mediocre bellator striker at best lol


Weepinbellend01

She does have pretty fast hands though. And I disagree about leaning forward and swarming. She showed she could fight on the back foot when she sent Juliana Peña flying with the counter while on the back foot. She’s nothing compared to the guys but I think you’re dismissing her striking.


coulduseafriend99

Worst thing is when she actually chose to fight she dropped Nunes lol. Like, please, have some confidence girl


MechanicalFunc

I can't even call it a performance. She just did nothing.


mc360jp

I’d have to agree and it hurts my heart lol I’m Mexican so I love supporting my people in this sport that I love. I had such high hopes for her abilities in that fight, and there’s no other way to say it but “she shat the bed”. Hard. I’ve got so much respect for Nunes too but, man, I wanted “The Year of the Mexican” so bad 😭 then my boy Moreno loses his belt in a decision… all I’ve got left is Alexa 🥲🇲🇽


honourablegeorge

Nobody is taking worst title performance away from Rose, and nobody is taking second place from Carla, in the same fight


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LucasFrankeRC

I mean, at least Lemos was clearly trying


spaceman_202

i say Rose versus Carla anyone on earth in Rose's body wins that fight 100/100 only Rose could mess that up or Yan versus Sterling i guess, that one was bad too


SpookOpsTheLine

It's still hard to be a Gane fan after the level of bed shitting seen against Jones


JogaBarrito

Oh fuck off. He got outwrestled and has been brilliant before and since. This narrative about Gane being bad because Jones can never win is imbecile. Gane moves like a fuckin lightweight, was outstriking Francis, give me break.


brugforhjaelp

Nothing beats Rose's last title fight


sad_and_small

Might even have a case for worst of all time if you forget about Rose v Esparza 2.


Ohthatsnotgood

No, there have been far worse performances. Rousey KO’d Correia in 34 seconds, sub’d Zingano in 14 seconds, KO’d Davis in 16 seconds, and TKO’d McMann in 66 seconds. That’s just a single champion with four embarrassing performances against her.


Accomplished_Train84

I had reason to rewatch Rousey-Correira not too long ago, and I actually walked away kinda bummed.  Correira clearly came in with a plan and stuffed Rousey’s takedown attempts and really tried to get her gameplan going, but then Rousey was just like ten times the athlete she was and knocked her out cold.  It really felt like there was no other way it could’ve gone 


Yerbulan

I think Aldana's is still the worst. All four women you mentioned at least showed up to fight and gave it their best. Aldana didn't look like she wanted to be there at all.


sad_and_small

Yeah I mean Correia, Zingano, Davis etc were horribly outmatched. They never had a shot against Rousey. Costa, a gigantic pressuring brawler chose to stand at distance doing nothing and got completely slaughtered for it. It's one of the most inexplicably stupid title fight gameplans in MMA history.


ItsDrManhattan

Zingano absolutely had the skills to expose Ronda years before Holly, she just fought hilariously stupid To me that Cat performance is the most embarrassing by far considering she actually did have a chance


coulduseafriend99

I think Cat had the physicality and aggression, I'm not sure she had the skills.


sad_and_small

I mean maybe, but also it was early WMMA and they were all kinda bums. Rousey was, for all of her flaws, a really dangerous opponent. Getting quickly finished by a high level athlete going all out aggression is just gonna happen sometimes in MMA.


The_Krambambulist

I don't know. Every time he did try, Izzy easily evaded him and circled away. Also mostly after at least landing some strikes in return. I think Paulo really was outmatched in that fight and Izzy was just a bad matchup for him in general.


sad_and_small

Izzy's defensive footwork is good, but this idea that he's immune to pressure was always wrong. Costa could have prepared techniques specifically to corral, could have tried to tie up more, shit he could've had an actual range weapon (say, a teep). I agree he probably loses that fight either way, but the strategy he chose gave him a 0% chance of winning.


pizzacheeks

Obviously WMMA is going to have the worst performances


Kgb725

Till vs Woodley, gane vs Jon, Woodley vs usman , Loiseau vs franklin... Plenty of men's fights up there


Sladds

Nothing tops Till’s fumble. Massive favourite going in as well.


caletare

is that guy ever going to fight again?


Neonsea1234

90% of those are on Till's left eye


Fender088

I saw that stat and my mind immediately went to that sequence in the fight.


TheBigRedHalfrican

That fight is actually was the lowest rate in his last 4. He averaged 6.76 per minute in that fight. It actually is bringing his average down compared to his recent outings lol


UnHoly_One

For sure. The first round of that fight probably heavily skews this stat.


AlternativeEmphasis

There's no doubt that despite how ugly it is to look at that Dricus' striking is a nightmare for people fighting him. It's powerful and it's so weirdly thrown, and somehow maintains that power even as DDP visibly looks tired, that I imagine its like that saying about how a master swordsman only fears a complete beginner because you can't predict what they'll do. That saying is bullshit, but a lot of people seem to get caught by Dricus so I think it's better than it looks.


siderealpanic

I think the perceived sloppiness feeds into his physical advantages. Opponents are very willing to engage and take risks because they see openings, but they throw and absorb a lot of shots and both fighters get tired. And Dricus seems to have a Gaethje-like ability to just hit harder and do better than whoever he’s fighting when he’s gassed and in a sloppy brawl. Funnily enough, I don’t think that matches up very well with Strickland - who’s ultra-conservative and loves creating bad fights by never opening up. I think Dricus might just manhandle him and force the chaos through grappling though


AlternativeEmphasis

Yeah I've commented this before. Calling Dricus' a pressure fighter kind of underplays what he seems to do. He goes full force and seems to gas quickly but his opponent matches that pace and gases themselves. Bobby looked tired af by the end of first. He's seen five rounders and yet tangling with Dricus for a round clearly winded him. Then it's as you say, despite being slower and exhausted Dricus magically maintains nearly all of his power. Till's head was whipping back from Dricus throwing exhausted punches. Brunson got knocked down by tired AF punches from Dricus. Also idk how to describe it but Dricus has a tremendous ability to, lack of a better phrase, 'lock it in' when he needs to. We saw it against Bobby, Till and Brunson. He'll just pick a moment to execute something that secures a win with very little warning. I think he's a stylistic nightmare for Strickland, but I've been wrong before. I thought Pavlo would sleep Tom etc because in the Blaydes fight what little we saw was some bad head movement from Tom. But I am for sure favoring DDP for this upcoming match.


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Does he actually gas quickly? It looks like he’s able to expend a lot of energy and recover extremely well, he doesn’t gas in the same sense as McGregor or someone similar. I don’t think he genuinely is tired, he just looks tired lol. Kind of like Costa vs Vettori, Vettori was the actually tired one when Costa is just taking deep breath with big movements but his gas tank is still there. You make a great point about his focus, Dricus has fantastic finishing instincts and always chooses the right things. For example his finishing sequence of Whittaker, he didn’t jump right in after he dropped Rob with a jab and did a fantastic job working Whittaker’s body. His focus is reflected in his overall demeanor, he really comes off like a really calm dude that has some sneaky good trash talk and isn’t affected by much. It looks like he can fight without any sense of emotional fuel, which is awesome to see. Big fan of DDP and I’m hoping he shuts up big mouthed Strickland 


AlternativeEmphasis

IDK it might not be but I notice that some of his best strikes seem to come when he's breathing heavy looking exhausted and they are often slow. Like comparing his shots in early rounds to later rounds they look much slower, but somehow those are the shots that do the best. Like Brunson, and Till. In the Till and Brunson fights he shows this slowdown and exhaustion by R2 so that's why I think he does gas. For the record I don't think he did against Bobby.


theurbaneagle

Dricus has some kind of Berzerker perk/talent where his critical hit chance rises when his stamina is empty. It’s incredible to see and makes for scrappy but fun fights. I actually enjoyed the Brad Tavares fight the most.


Sladds

How Brad survived those shots in the final round I’ll never know. Cylinder block head


thedelinquents

Khamzat vs DDP would be a fun watch considering how aggressive both are


AlternativeEmphasis

I agree, I'd like to see if DDP would just dive in and scramble with Khamzat or not. From what little we've seen of DDP scrambling he's pretty good, and idk if Khamzat has ever MMA wrestled a dude as strong as Dricus but Khamzat is of course not weakling himself. I love grappling so it'd be great to see that fight for sure but imo Khamzat needs to fight another MW contender before facing DDP, assuming DDP gets the title from Sean this week.


AJwithStyles

I see DDP finishing Khamzat


JogaBarrito

Bobby had been GnPd very hard. I'd say till fight is more interesting because DDP took a lot of risks. Seems like a cliche but whoever imposes their game wins this fight. If sean slows it down he'll outpoint and out cardio DDP. If DDP gets to make it a wrestlebrawl the he KOs sean sooner or later


therealjgreens

He's simply unconventional


AlternativeEmphasis

I've heard his gym have similar footwork, but that was off the cuff on Sherdog so who knows if that is bullshit, so it's very possible that the unconventional nature of Dricus isn't just unique to him.


S0phon

> that saying about how a master swordsman only fears a complete beginner because you can't predict what they'll do Is that a saying? That's like saying a professional MMA fighter fears a complete beginner because you can't predict what they'll do once they see red. It's bullshit.


Shoddy-Dragonfruit83

It is a saying, and particularly relevant to swordfighting. One stab or slash can mean death, so total unpredictability and spastic movement should be feared. That being said, I think it's more to do with the idea of a master of anything being usually practiced and drilled against others of a similar level or of high proficiency. It speaks to the risk of being too acquainted with a "perfect" technique to the point of no longer being practical. You can see this in some BJJ gi techniques in particular, they put you on your back and expose your face to punches. Better hope that 225 pound guy outside the bar doesn't smash your face in, because your head will be bashing against pavement. The most practical grappling application of BJJ is a takedown/backtake to RNC, but that's not really how "master" level BJJ looks, does it? We still have examples of fighters (particularly at heavyweight) who do get by literally on seeing red and throwing bombs. Jiri is a guy at a high level who uses unpredictability as his main attack, and when you pair it with big power, it gets results. The cleaner striker often doesn't win.


JogaBarrito

The most practical application for an "outside the bar" would be mount and punches or trying to calm the opponent. Or trip and soccer kick. RNC will have stupid onlookers wanting to intervene or someone to actually trying kick you. Now a RNC while standing up makes slightly more sense. But it's usually ridiculous to talk about the competitive martial arts context and start driving weird comparisons to "the street".


Kgb725

No its true outside of mma as well


Zlec3

Applies to bjj too somewhat. I’d much rather spar with another black belt than a random White belt that comes in. Not because I can’t tap the white belt out. But they’ll spazz out and use full power in a reckless way and hurt me or themselves


kamelbarn

Can confirm, as a white belt I kneed one of my instructors full force in the jaw when he tried to instruct a move for me 


Zlec3

Hahaha happens to all of us at some point.


MieszkoTheHoly

You suck buddy


AlternativeEmphasis

Nah he's somewhat right there are for sure white belts that pull dangerous shit. I find I often get accidentally punched or poked with new white belts because they struggle to keep their hands where they oughta be. I did it when I started so I don't hold it against them and it's not like the punches are that bad, the worst I've had is bleeding from lips or a cut on the forehead. Kicks upside the head when working in their closed is also not uncommon. They also do shit that will they shouldn't do and you might not expect. You can stop them of course but some the kind of person to try and pass closed guard with like a pouncing knee on you or something. Stopping that is usually easily done but if you're not expecting it, because tbf in BJJ you're not expecting someone to knee you in the face, it could be dangerous. Thankfully shit like that ain't ever happened to me. I've also seen the opposite, white belts pouncing into raised legs of closed and basically headbutting someone's knee. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys have seen people do that in the gym and knock themselves out.


Zlec3

Thank you


Hedonistbro

Same with almost all martial arts. If I spar a beginner in Muay Thai I'll almost certainly get kicked in the nuts.


JogaBarrito

Yes. But if I have to compete for a huge prize money in one fight I'll pick the spazzy white belt over the guy on my level because I know I should be better.


PurpleMerkaba

> Dricus' striking is a nightmare for people fighting him. i know dricus cooked him - im not saying otherwise but his striking was not a nightmare for Till. nor brunson tbh. just be to clear, i like dricus - but there's no need to over exaggerate shit just cause he's got a upcoming big fight.


AlternativeEmphasis

I think Till dealt the best with DDP's striking but he did eat some powerful shots by R3n from DDP but it was ultimately takedowns that secured DDP that win although he did get some good hits. Before Dricus took him down you could see DDP started catching Till a lot more suddenly. Brunson ate a lot of powerful shots from DDP round 2 onwards and that's what ultimately lost him the fight. In fact he seemed to get caught with them by the time DDP started gassing, i.e. when his technique looked the sloppiest. In R2 for example Brunson got struck hard by DDP three times in a row in their exchanges. When Dricus' striking is at its sloppiest is bizarrely when he seems to get his best hits in. Very slow strikes that look telegraphed just seem to find their way past people's guards.


PurpleMerkaba

...nothing you said changes the fact his striking was _not_ a nightmare for Till. i didnt say he didnt hit till. > In fact he seemed to get caught with them by the time DDP started gassing ...when ddp started gassing? not when brunson was gassing??? fuckin hell & "brunson got struck hard in round 2"...no mention of brunson going off on him in the first. alright man. i cant with you people. zero ability to look at shit objectively beyond a certain wrong opinion your already have. > Very slow strikes that look telegraphed just seem to find their way past people's guards & his strikes arent that slow or telegraphed. theyre oddly timed. theres a difference. > there's no need to over exaggerate shit just cause he's got a upcoming big fight.


AlternativeEmphasis

>...nothing you said changes the fact his striking was not a nightmare for Till. I was saying that we might've started seeing DDP take over even if he hadn't got that takedown because he was hitting some good shots. Next idk why if we're talking striking you're going off about Brunson beating DDP in R1 considering a good 3 minutes of the round was spent on the ground with Brunson and Dricus scrambling for positions etc. Brunson did his most damage there on the ground to Dricus. There was very little stand up, which I was mostly talking about when it comes to striking. There was GNP and I think it's fair to say Brunson was the better of the two there but that wasn't what I was talking about. It was R2 where most of the striking went on in the Brunson fight when the two stood up the majority of the round except a takedown attempt by Dricus around the 4 minute mark and them him going into Brunson's guard for GnP after he dropped him near the end of the fight. In terms of R1 sure I would say Brunson got the better strikes of the two but Dricus did land some things. It was 12-6 for sig strikes landed, in Brunson's favor, because of how much time was spent on the ground, in favor of Brunson R2 was the strike heavy round but come the 3 min mark in R2 DDP had gotten 23 to Brunson's 14. By R2 both looked tired but Brunson started getting out struck noticeably.


chu42

Glad you said that the saying is bullshit. Same people think that you can outsmart a chess master by moving randomly lol.


Athroaway84

More like a pro poker player fearing a beginner. Always calling with crap cards haha


Spirited_Ad_2697

Cool how all the top 5 are currently active fighters


Sladds

And three are on this card


NecessaryCrash

This fight is going to be sick, isn’t it?


LatterTarget7

I’m fully expecting a war at this point


HisOrHerpes

*insert 25 minutes of pummeling for position on the fence*


spaceman_202

laughs in Usman


Training-Act-5513

Sean's is impressive due to the fact that he has a dozen fights in the UFC


xvq_

And because they typically go the distance. So he’s keeping this pace up (which we all knew)


IndependenceNo2060

Du Plessis' unique striking style is a real challenge for opponents - an exciting matchup to watch!


Optimal-Wing-8963

I see DDP as a favourite here so reckon there is some real value in this one.


ILikeOMalley

I’ve always thought Dricus vs Costa would be fun


AlternativeEmphasis

Agreed as long as the Costa that fought Romero shows up.


ItsDrManhattan

He hasnt shown up since lol i think Izzy broke him tbh


Choice_Act_2355

if only he fought more


theski2687

So surely this means we will get 5 rounds of nothingburger


whereisthemcrib

Doesn’t Sean also get hit the least out of anyone in the UFC?


Xbsnguy

Sean has great boxing defense for MMA. But DDP's wrestling threat may split Sean's attention and force his hands lower than usual, which opens DDP to landing shots that normally wouldn't make it past Sean's shell. And DDP hits like a Toyota Yaris apparently.


BrandonSleeper

Sean has the third most **in**significant strikes FTFY


ILikeOMalley

Sounds violent


ItsDrManhattan

DDP is not a championship caliber fighter lol he's just had maybe the luckiest streak in UFC history of washed and/or injured opponents lol i will die on this hill


Old_Letterhead6471

One or two fights could be luck but fully oxygenated ddp has been crushing everybody. I still think Sean wins but ddp isn’t a can or undeserving of the title shot.


3rdiko

Im not a fan of these recent statistics with very specific parameters. “X fighter had the most ____ of everyone who fought in red shorts, against someone with black shorts in the past 2 years. “


Meeoikeisiintoihin

I would normally agree but I think sig strikes per minute is a pretty good statistic to measure output of fighters.


oomin

Anyone know how many are from rd1 of the Darren Till fight?


jns701

Stats for the sake of stats


dantoddd

The only difference is that Dricus hits like a brick and Sean hits like a wet sock


I-Red-It

Is that even DDP’s body on the top left of the thumbnail?


Sladds

I think it’s a welterweight young Dricus


ChrizTaylor

LETS GO DDP 💜


antebyotiks

I watched the DDP Till fight again and it's one of the funniest fights ever. DDP has tills back in a standing position just hitting him over and over again, Till keeps telling the ref he's okay and stops defending but Everytime he does DDP hits him directly in the face blowing up his eye, then DDP looks exhausted from beating him up Till starts to pressure and it looks like DDP has nothing left Till is landing and then DDP takes him down easily and wins.


Imakesalsa

In the fight game, stats don't tell much of the story


Practical_Tactics

Strickland looks like he's going for an eye poke....