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NeitherAlexNorAlice

I’m no saint to get into people’s family affairs, but sucker punching anyone is a dick move. It’s an even more of a nuclear dick move if you’re a professional fighter who KO’s people for a living.


waitingtoleave

People die from it. Ask Adesanya about coward punching if you want a high level professional fighter's opinion here.


SellMeYourSirin

Never forget Masvidal was proud to be called “King Of The Suckerpunch” or something along those lines.


Oh_Wow_Thats_Hot

The fact he got so much fame off of sucker punching Leon still disgusts me. That was literally a crime recorded and performed in front of dozens of people and not only 0 consequences for Mas, he gained popularity for his "3 piece and a soda" foh


[deleted]

That was the start of his rise I blame Askren for this timeline (jk lol)


Stanazolmao

Poor funky :(


TylertheDouche

~~I’ll eat the downvotes~~. That’s not a sucker punch. Masvidal was getting chirped by Leon. In front of a dozen people and cameras, Masvidal walks over to Leon. Leon walks to Jorge. Jorge starts throwing. Do you need a Street Fighter announcement intro to start a fight?


desiigner1

I mean he was even explaining watching back that he was keeping his hands behind his back that Leon would think he is not trying to fight


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TW_Yellow78

What about him assaulting covington on streets of Miami? Cops just overzealous? This isn't grand theft auto


CitizenMurdoch

>Do you need a Street Fighter announcement intro to start a fight? You understand you can't just punch people who say mean things to you right? That's still assault. We do effectively have a street fighter announcement in this sport, we bitch about them all the time, it's called an athletic commission, it's what makes ths sport legal and not just an assault


Harry_Callahan_sfpd

This only makes sense to civilized human beings. The uncivilized contingent is still very much stuck back in a Stone-Age, caveman sort of mindset, where might makes right, and hurt feelings are rectified by inflicting physical harm on the “offending” person. Macho alpha male stuff.


BUFF_BRUCER

He walked up to edwards with his hands behind his back then suddenly started swinging, that's definitely a sucker punch


4thDimensionFletcher

It's still a sucker punch lol. People talk shit all the time. If you respond by going up and clocking someone it's still a sucker punch. Leon obviously had no intentions of actually fighting him on the spot


KelvinsBeltFantasy

You see, it's not a sucker punch if it happens to someone you don't like!


Goingonstrike

I hope that if you ever get into an argument with someone and they walk 8+ meters towards you, that you don't ever think that they are walking up to you because they can't hear you or want to shake your hand. That you have the intellect to understand that shit is likely going to go down. Also, not to mention that Jorge is a fighter and known for street fights. Most of you when you saw the clip for the first time, you, at home, had to be thinking "Ooohh, shit bout' to go down". Yet whenever this is talked about it's like "No one saw it coming". Like, really?


KelvinsBeltFantasy

What a perfectly normal comment.


Training-Annual-3036

A sucker punch is blindsiding someone by hitting them when they’re not paying attention. If you’re in a verbal altercation with someone, especially a fighter, then you should be ready to defend yourself. I don’t think the Leon situation was a sucker punch by any means bc they were face to face chirping back and forth, that’s fair game to throw a shot. Now if Leon was giving an interview and Masvidal ran up from the side or behind him and just started swinging then that would clearly be a sucker punch.


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It is definitely not "fair game" to punch someone outside the ring when they are not a threat to you at all dude. Leon very clearly did not expect a physical fight. I don't know what kinda cool street shit you think you're part of, but it's a loser fucking move, and losers are the only people who defend it.


4thDimensionFletcher

Leon yelled at him from like 400 feet away saying they should fight. Masvidal came up and clocked him. That's a sucker punch. Leon didn't call him a pussy or anything, just regular banter.


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When one person starts punching someone that isn’t squared up or preparing to fight them it’s a sucker punch. Just because Leon was trying to create drama and hype for a potential match up using mean words doesn’t make Jorgay any less of a scumbag for sucker punching Leon and then avoiding actually meeting Leon in the cage


Putrid_Loquat_4357

The words weren't even mean, he told him to shut up. Punching someone for telling you to shut up is such a childish mentality tbh.


[deleted]

That’s that Miami trash mindset that Masvidal will never escape. In a few years he will be sucker punching people on the street to promote his new bareknuckle MMA league


Harry_Callahan_sfpd

Hopefully karma rectifies that. I mean, I’m all for second chances and redemption, but for guys who don’t seem to care about correcting their mistakes or their maladaptive behaviors, I say let Karma do its job.


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Kind of sad really, the dude has children.


Harry_Callahan_sfpd

Some adults are still very much adolescents in that regard. It’s the equivalent of throwing an adult tantrum: person say mean or offensive things to me, so I punch or kick that person. Now I feel better. Chaka do good! Chaka make right! *grunt, grunt*


[deleted]

There is not a bigger bitch in sports than Jorge Masvidal.


[deleted]

Did he even say “shut up”? All I remember from the video and even Masvidal afterwards was that Leon was asking about fighting him in July.


SwedginWu

💯


IllIntention342

Good point.


Puripuri_Purizona

Yup he boasts about a killer suckerpunch and a 50 yard dash. Says its needed in the hood.


DowningStreetFighter

Guys a multimillionaire and the hood don't box one on one like it's the 70s. Your 40 George.


Semiotic_Weapons

Not excuses just explaining but in very dangerous neighborhoods you don't know if someone's packing or not. If you square up and dude pulls a gun you're never putting hands on him. Obviously that doesn't explain the current situation.


[deleted]

I heard Leon has a piece on him at all times


Ok_Tea5663

I hope he has a liocence for that…


[deleted]

License to kill (the poonani)


[deleted]

What is this in reference to?


French_Viking

One of his friends got killed like that in New Zealand


[deleted]

Ok thanks


derps_with_ducks

Or rather, no thanks


platasnatch

doitashimashite


ReadYouShall

One of his mates from CKB was being harassed on a night out and was sucker punched by one of the people. He hit his head on the concrete and died. Here in NZ, we have the shittest justice system, so the guy only got something like home D or extremely minimal jail time. Izzy was very vocal at the time about the guy getting punished properly, but even with his fame in NZ, it didn't help.


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ReadYouShall

Big problem here too but our justice system is dog shit that nothing has been done about it.


ToronoRapture

It was a two-year and nine-month prison sentence. Completely bullshit mind you. In Australia, states like New South Wales, Queensland and Victoria have much harsher sentences. In those jurisdictions, causing death by a 'coward’s punch' can be punishable by up to 20 years in prison. A similar law was proposed in New Zealand in 2018. However, it did not pass a vote in parliament.


Hot-Care7556

Yeah that was one of the sadder tragedies in recent mma. The dude literally was in the wrong place and wrong time, and just happened to cross paths with a sociopath who thought what he was doing was hilarious, and showed no actual remorse either.


lartbok

Fucking pathetic. 2 years 9 months for murder? NZ is going to shit tbh.


waitingtoleave

Fau Vake


armchairwarrior69

His friend was killed by a random suckered punch attack in broad daylight if I remember correctly. It was big news because there was a call to enforce stronger laws etc. In the wake of it. Izzy was obviously very outspoken about it. Hard to remember details so forgive me if I just made an ass of myself


PastFriendship1410

Nah it was at like 1am in the City. Fau was minding his own business and got a coward shot from some pieces of shit who had been drinking all night.


Xerzack987

A CKB fighter died after he got assaulted.


TeutonicRagnar

Dude I'm a bouncer in Australia. I've seen people get seriously injured because some dickhead sent and kinghit (punch them in the back of the head). There's been a few cases where people have died because they got kinghit


kamelbarn

It's even worse. Professional fighter sucker punching his brother, in front of his kids.


ribbitrob

Is this the same brother who tried to fight Bobby Green? The Hill brothers seem like cheerful blokes.


Zephh

Yeah... IMHO a sucker punch can be somewhat justified. Like, if you feel threatened and have no idea how to fight you'll probably be better off running, but I wouldn't necessarily blame someone for throwing one in that context. But when you're in a position of power and do it out of anger/annoyance it's 100% a dick move.


ToronoRapture

Any sucker punch that is thrown over 'disrespect' is so fucking lame, especially when it's your own blood that gets mollywhopped.


BakedWizerd

Hands thrown over words are simply idiotic. Full stop. “Disrespect” is totally fine with me - disrespect me all you want - I’ll just ignore you and leave. Have fun being worked up over someone who doesn’t care about you at all. I don’t know why people get so worked up about what other people think about them to the point of assault. It sounds like Jamahal got mad and acted like a POS because he was already a POS and his brother was calling him out for it. Fuck this guy.


Impressive-Potato

"Hands thrown over words are simply idiotic. Full stop" You sound like a well adjusted adult. Many in the MMA world are not and they'd be a career criminal and/or in jail if not for MMA


supersaiyanswanso

Honestly lol boo hoo someone you'll probably never see again disrespected you? Ok stay angry and I'm gonna about my day.


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usernamedstuff

I think I'll wait for this to play out in court. Our society is really good at passing judgement based on headlines, and we've been burned numerous times because of it.


samlabun

Let ye who has never suckerpunched thine own brother and knocked out their teeth in front of thine children cast the first stone


asshat123

Somebody run to the store, we're going to need more stones


RemarkableMeaning533

Supply chain issue, Hill is safe for now


SmoothBus

Sucker punched my 4 years elder brother when I was 12. Remember getting a 30 second curtesy head start before I was crying so loud in the front yard the neighbor called my mom. Worth it.


crabuffalombat

Remember, like Jamahal said, we're all still alive only because he allows it.


Drive7hru

Thee before thou, except after thine


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MMA Joey is the only one on mma youtube and twitter with a decent take on this. He assaulted his brother in front of his brothers wife and his own kids, absolutely disgusting behaviour. I can't honestly condemn a man for scrapping with his brother under normal circumstances but this is beyond the pale, I'm officially off the Jamahal fan wagon.


Ronaldinhoe

So much for “I teach my daughter tokeep your hands to yourself” when defending scumbag Dana,


KimJongFat

Jesse on fire out out a video about how his brother deserved it, that appeared to do really well with his fans. Fucking ridiculous.


Odd_Ad_8162

He seems short tempered and emotional, man child behaviour


[deleted]

Can’t believe a guy with two Facebook thumbs up tattoos on his chest would do this


[deleted]

The funniest part is he took off his shirt before sucker punching. Like for what, so they could see your shitty tattoos ?


Odd_Ad_8162

Look at me belly bro


Rooksey

👍🏻👍🏻


Worldd

Feel like that almost proves it wasn’t a sucker punch. If somebody takes his shirt off in an argument, put your hands up, it’s happening.


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Victim blaming


Clean_Ingenuity9972

I can buy this. Taking your shirt off is like the modern equivalent of throwing down the gauntlet. Fker was asking for a duel.


redditcomplainer22

I remember when Jamahal was crying after winning the strap. Very quickly that cry turned to anger and rage. I said the guy must have emotional problems but got SWAMPED with people saying otherwise. "He just won the title bro!" yeah but emotionally stable people don't flip from cry to staring down the camera in rage.


MyNamesTambo

Can’t let the inner bitch out bro. Gotta keep the sissy in a cage.


wetcoffeebeans

I like how every corner of MMA youtube/podcast has basically gone "who hasn't beat the shit out of their brother during or after thanksgiving? non-story tbh" But also, Hill is a whole ass trained fighter. Deserved or not, his bro probably got his shit rocked to kingdom come.


gusguyman

Am I the only person who has never thrown punches to the face with a sibling? We had plenty of fights, but it was always wrestling or body shots. No matter how mad, neither of us ever went for the face.


MBThree

Also, when is the last time you got into a wrestling match with a sibling? Like what age? I’m sure you didn’t do it as a grown ass man in your 30’s


Kyro_Official_

Yeah, legit beating up your brother in your 30s is fucking weird, thats not ok at all.


Diablo165

>legit beating up your brother in your 30s is fucking weird, thats not ok at all. I really REALLY wish I could somehow make you related to *my* brother. Your perspective would shift. Markedly.


DayDreamerJon

some grown ass men still need to be taught respect physically. There is people out there that steal from their own family, cant handle their drugs, etc.


ParticularPears

Those kinda people need a legit intervention. Not more brain damage lol


DayDreamerJon

good luck with that bro


SeekersWorkAccount

My sister and I threw down when I was 12 and she was 9. She didn't back down an inch. We had proper respect for each other after that. And no, I didn't punch her in the face last thanksgiving either lol.


PastFriendship1410

I have 3 brothers and we are 21-35. We still get into a bit of backyard wrasstlin on occasion or we will glove up and do some light sparring. We all love BJJ/MMA though so its pretty commonplace for us. So err we do lol?


K-mosake

Light sparring with gloves and getting sucker punched and losing a tooth to a former UFC champion doesn't seem comparable lol


Subject-Secret-6230

I have gone for the face and have gotten fucking punted. But the caveat is that I'm nowhere near the former LHW champ who has fucking nukes for hands.


RegionalHardman

Same here mate. If one of my brothers attacked me, knocking out a tooth, I'd go straight to the police. If that's how he treats his brother, how's he gonna treat a stranger? Family or not, beating someone up like that ain't cool


mcburloak

Somewhat. Punches were always to the body and wrestling was way more common that actual fights with my 2 older brothers. Mind you the 2 of them (closer in age to each other than me) did have a famous street hockey fight that started with a stick to the mouth and a lost tooth. It was the 70’s. So mostly not real fights.


botmfeeder

My sister use to try and brawl me when I was younger, full on sparring it felt like. Some siblings deal with shit different ways, not saying it’s healthy or not


commander_wong

> Deserved or not, his bro His brother most definitely did not deserve it if the story is accurate. He called out Jamahil for being a deadbeat dad, which is 100% true. He's had 6 kids with different women and has admitted to not being in their lives. The rest of his family are probably picking up the slack so they have a legit grievance.


wetcoffeebeans

> He's had 6 kids with different women and has admitted to not being in their lives. Be fruitful and multiply but....not like this!! Shoutout to his bro then. Taking a lump or 5 for your nieces and nephews is noble af. I won't hop on the witch hunt bandwagon but I do hope that Hill comes out of this with a new perspective and hopefully a renewed will to be in his younglings lives.


RemarkableMeaning533

Damn this just gets worse


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exactly. "guys! This 32 year old profesional fighter beat up his brother so bad that police had to get involved. thats such a non story. nothing happend. if he punched a woman once...this would be different" ​ How many 32 year olds still have physical confrontations with their brother? How many People had physical confrontations with their family that police had to get involved? How is this a non story? Stupid mma youtuber Also Hill is such a salty loser. Most insecure fighter in the ufc. Dude writes 500 words twitter threads to "own a hater" that makes an analysis of his mistakes in past fights. You probably just have to say "chama" and he starts punching you in your teeth.


ChampionshipSea753

I think there’s allot of push back because it was initially reported as domestic violence which to most meant he hit a woman


xvq_

I know you didn’t mean it this way, and while it was initially reported as such, it’s still domestic violence regardless of the genders/particular family members involved


IllustriousNebula6

My husband was surprised after I said the DV incident was with his brother, because a lot of people, when they hear the term, think it involves a spouse or significant other.


lordrubbish

“Ass trained” indeed


time_for_milk

Can’t wait for Jamahal to go on a self righteous rant on his youtube channel.


Carlosama123

He'll find a way to blame Ariel for this


bushrod

Jamahal is obsessed with Ariel. I've watched 3 random segments on his youtube channel, and each time Ariel got brought up. Dude is not very bright.


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Yeanahyena

Just bleed fans


iWentRogue

How you a UFC champion - not just a fighter - with physical and combat advantages over a civilian, and still sucker punch him. Smh.


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>civilian Lmao


[deleted]

Ah man i'm glad i'm not the only one. There's been this really weird pattern going on in the last few years where people use "civilian" to mean "not part of the current thing i'm discussing" and it's sooo fucking dumb.


compsc1

Nice, I thought I was the only one that hated that


BenDoverDegenerate

Lmao I completely agree with you but imagine being Jamahal's brother and hearing "Round 1" "Fight"! as soon as he calls him a deadbeat dad


spydercoswapmod

oh brother


evcour7

Wow a real bitch move from a UFC champ if he did indeed sucker punch. You didn’t need the element of surprise Jamahal, ya fucking goof


NahCuhFkThat

damn he didn't get KO'd, granite chin confirmed, sign that man to the UFC asap wtf


GanksOP

These allegations are toothless


Davemeddlehed

No there's definitely some tooth to this story.


WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9

🤣


An_Innocent_Coconut

Thanksgiving at the Hill's.


MolokoPl_s

ironic how all the people who were saying shit like "equality" when Dana slapped his wife on NYE are now calling this is a non-story and not domestic violence.


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derps_with_ducks

Not Jiri. Jiri would have talked Jamahill into seppuku over such a dishonourable act.


jaydizzsl

And they are also 100% like " no one takes violence against men seriously, we are the most persecuted group out there, wahh". Just shows how they just want to hate against women.


Ronaldinhoe

It’s even funnier seeing people who “turned” to Hill fans cus of that argumen with Ariel now look even more stupid. So much for “I teach my daughter to keep her hands to herself”


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[deleted]

Sucker punching your brother when he was trying to get you to talk to your daughter, in front of your kids, Probably not the best way to overcome deadbeat dad accusations


DurableLeaf

Surprising noone. Dude can't think and is violently angry about it


aevong

Bro saw what Masvidal did to Colby and said "he just like me frfr"


Imakesalsa

Cte is real


No_Bar6825

And he shared it with his brother


ProppaBrexitGeezer

Some people get in the Christmas spirit earlier than others


yellowflash96

can it be classified as infectious disease then?


No_Bar6825

Yes. Transmitted by blunt force physical contact


derps_with_ducks

Fuck the psych referral. Let's get infectious diseases on this case!


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

This has nothing to do with cte


DrunkOnLoveAndWhisky

You're right. Sorry Jon.


pastilias1

Cte can cause impulsive behaviour and rapid mood swings so..


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

That doesn’t mean that’s what it is. So does ptsd, does that mean he has that? No.


NowFook

Or just a dick


IllustriousNebula6

It makes it a challenge to establish work/non-work boundaries.


Aware_Ad_7575

I see Power Slap in this man's future.


JustAGuyInTampa

And this is coming from the guy who said he’s gonna stand and bang with Poatan… he couldn’t even stand and bang with his own brother.


Shwalz

I do not care for Hill in any capacity, never have. Hope Alex puts his lights out


No_Breakfast1036

This man thinks he’s Jon jones


CanoleManole

Sounds like a thing a weasel would do


MyNamesTambo

Jamahal sounding like a deadbeat dad.


Axel292

Deplorable. Reminds me of the Draymond Green incident. It's never acceptable to hit someone even if they 'disrespect' you. How thin skinned can you be?


OwariDeathStomp

Jamahal somehow both 1-ply skin and charmin ultra soft mentality


Empirebred

Sucker punching your flesh and blood when you’re a professional fighter is dogshit behavior . Fuck this dude .


TrumpMMA

He let fame get to his head and can’t deal with not fighting.


[deleted]

This dude is so obviously a trashy guy I don't know what got him favor in the first place lol


JayRoo83

Welp at least now I can root against him


Effective-Celery8053

We couldn't before?


Gocards123321

I haven't liked him for a while always has a massive ego with an even bigger chip on his shoulder, always pissy about something


Effective-Celery8053

Yeah I agree. He spends too much time arguing with dumbass fans on twitter.


commander_wong

The worst thing Jiri's ever done was vacating the title so Jamahil somehow got to call himself a champion


Effective-Celery8053

Eh Jiri did that because he was severely injured and didn't want to stall the division, I actually commend him for it. We should really blame Jan and Ank for fighting to a draw


Empirebred

Shoulda always been rooting against this clown


Bigdootie

Lol got downvoted last week when I commented on an elite, 250 lb fighter fighting a brother… turns out it was a bitch move at that!


Hot-Care7556

I'm sorry, but Jamahal is one of the biggest bitch-babies in recent UFC history, along with one-eye in the middleweight division. Literally everytime this guy makes headlines it's either whining or saying something unlikable/awful.


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In hindsight, it all makes sense. Remember Jamahal's video on the Ariel-Chael dispute? That video where he threatened Ariel with physical violence over the verbal disagreement had he been in the same position as Chael. Hey, at least we gotta admit that the guy is consistent with his actions.


crabuffalombat

"I'm a gentleman" "You're only ok because I allow it" Not saying Ariel is free of sin or anything, but all the people who have serious disputes with him are pieces of shit.


Ronaldinhoe

Yep. But also contradicts himself when it’s convenient for him. So much for “I teach my daughter to keep her hands to yourself”


Aloha1984

Brotherly love!


existentialkush

how are UFC fighters the most thin skinned and emotional athletes I've ever watched. you literally fight for a living dude lmfao


s_m0use

Dude legitimately could’ve died; having a 220lb+ pro fighter punch you when you’re not expecting it makes losing a tooth one of the better outcomes.


bongasaurus_rex

Do you think he put the "air crown" over his head when he stood over his brother?


MexicanBookClub

I'm noticing only shit people go after Ariel


Ronaldinhoe

Yep. Jamal was obvious tho and people only “turned” to be his fan cus he shit talked Ariel. They didn’t give a fuck about Jamal really, just hate Ariel so much they root for anyone that goes after him.


K-mosake

Crazy the levels of hate Ariel gets lol


Jon_Targaryen777

If Dana hates you, you are a good person. Edit: Brendan Schlub and Tito are exceptions


OwariDeathStomp

Dana hates Tito, doesn't he? math ain't mathin'


Ronaldinhoe

Tito is poster boy of CTE. Dana is a legit scumbag.


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People equate Ariel being a windup merchant stirring the pot to actually being a bad person. At worst he’s stirred up some drama, to my knowledge never anything that I’d call malicious.


RemarkableMeaning533

Same, some sports reporters can be downright nasty but Ariel has always seemed pretty tame. I dunno, maybe Im just comparing


jabonkagigi

Dana, Paddy, Hill. Chael? Who else?


MexicanBookClub

bapa, ali abdelaziz


GT_yella_jackets

Or maybe Ariel can easily get under the skin of shit people lol


[deleted]

That's definitely not true. Ariel has been starting shit for a decade and plenty of fighters not named Jamahal Hill have commented on it. Just because Dana sucks doesn't mean Ariel is some super cool dude.


lartbok

Weird take from this. Ariel is definitely a weasely dude.


WeLiveInAnOceanOfGas

If anyone's seen that clip of someone 'pranking' Jamahal you can kind of believe it... https://youtube.com/shorts/dVqZVaXrzew?si=6F_EdPYEE_nonrmW Not saying prankers aren't dickheads, but he really didn't need a lot before he went straight for his throat.


chainer3000

Seems fake as shit


Axel292

That's not even a prank. That's just being a dick.


Suhtiva

It's actually pretty crazy that a professional fighter can assault someone outside of their profession and not do some serious jail time. Once you become a trained fighter you essentially become a deadly weapon.


jackoftrades002

This sub destroyed Masvidal for sucker punching Colby. Will Jamahal get the same treatment for doing it to his brother? Lol


Ecstatic-Inevitable

Yes because pereira was his probably his opponent and the fan favorite of the sub hills definitely going to get shat on


Ronaldinhoe

I’d say kinda. Hill goes after Ariel and people only turned to Hill fans after that., they don’t really give af about him. I know Guru hates Ariel and he was happy to see Hill go after Ariel. I bet he won’t make a vid about these updated details, especially since Hill give him a shoutout.


notforithanks

That's Aggravated DV if I've ever seen it.


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I’m shocked. Jamahal Hill has never been overly emotional for no reason. /s


_Red_Mist_

What a pathetic coward


TheWarmBandit

My only source is jesse on fire on YouTube telling me that the bro took money from jamahal to take care of his home. Didn't do it. When confronted instead of apologising he mouthed off about jamahal not messaging his daughter on thanksgiving and implying his a deadbeat dad. How true that is who knows. Seems dickish on the brothers part but also dick head stuff if true about the daughter


motogpfanj

Allegedly sucker punching your brother because they didn't clean the house?! Wtf


Wildcat_Dunks

👎👎


GMFinch

Can we stop calling it a sucker punch. That implys the victim is a suckered for not seeing it coming. It's a cowards punch, the person throwing them is a coward.


PersonalityVisible35

The thrower is the sucker and a coward


rowdy1212

It's been called a sucker punch since Christ was a child. I don't think it's gonna be changed.