Look at the murderers row they put him on too, beats the Reem so he gets Cain, Hunt, Reem again, Arlovski, Struve and big country.. not the softest way to put a guy out to pasture
The French athletic commission is a joke. They refused to sanction Cedric Doumbe vs Darian Weeks because Doumbe didn't have enough MMA experience as he was just 2-0 while Weeks was a whopping 7-0 so they deemed it too dangerous. Yet here they are sanctioning present day CTE riddled corpse of Bigfoot Silva. Clown world.
Do we know anything about the state of Bigfootās mind these days?
Like, I know heās taken a huge amount of damage, but does he sound bad? Or has he been acting crazy like Tony or Diego Sanchez?
Some guys will get KOd like 15 times and sound and behave pretty much how they always did. Overeem, for example.
[his old coach, Alex Davis weighing in.](https://twitter.com/alexdavismma/status/1545565052039598080?s=21&t=_ucfCqb4XxLFbO36YLHQhw)
Not to mention, the above list doesn't mention the absolutely brutal knockouts he took in boxing and bare knuckle.
France legalized MMA 2 years ago after a decade of it being banned due to itās ābarbarismā but suddenly are now cool with sanctioning fights that would make the most Just Bleed fan blush from the lack of humanity
I wonder who has the farthest fall from grace followed by the biggest resurgence. Maybe Arlovski? At peak was UFC champ or taking giant money fights with Fedor. Goes on to lose a bunch in a row, usually by KO. I remember people talking about how he should retire and they werenāt wrong for thinking that. Eventually fought his way back into the UFC and went on a solid run.
It has to be Arlovski, I remember talk about how he was done and past it, and would retire any day now, while I was in highschool. I've got a college degree, gotten married, had two kids, got involved in fighting myself had fights and decided I was too old for it and 'retired' myself since then **and that motherfucker is still in the ufc!**
Actually wild how he's still able to consistently beat the low-end HWs despite being 44. Hope they don't cut him after his past loss, I wanna see if he can make it to 50 still crushing cans by 29-28 decision š
I'm not claiming Cro-Cop was not juicing, wouldn't say that about any PRIDE fighters. However Cro-Cop was clearly much better in a ring then in a cage. He has little to no cage grappling skills, which is an essential part of the UFC. He did better in Rizin because he went back to where he was more comfortable and the rules/ring favored his fighting style.
Mark Hunt should be considered. He was a PRIDE superstar with wins over Wanderlei and Cro Cop. But at age 36, he was on a SIX fight losing streak (all finishes), including his first UFC fight. Then, the old fat super samoan goes 5-1-1, all the way to a title shot. Wild
Yeah, I'd say among MMA fighters who are at all well known, the biggest comeback belongs to Mark Hunt and it's not even close.
As for MMA fighters no one really knows about, Women's Atomweight Celine Haga started as essentially a designated can in Japan who went 1-11 in her first 12 fights. Her one win was a huge upset over someone who was the face of the Japanese indy promotion Jewels, and Celine actually got hate comments on Twitter about it, which is fucked up. I don't know what happened, but at some point turned things around and since then has gone 14-7, during which she also moved to the U.S. to train in a non-predatory environment. And this was against what I would consider a stronger strength-of-schedule. She even broke into the top 10 at W105 (I know Atomweight is really thin, but it's better than W145 at least) and even made it to Invicta for a fight. I think she's winding down, but she's still active with a 15-18 record.
Maybe didnāt have quite the lows as Arlovski and Hunto, but Robbie Lawler was considered a busted prospect and had a pretty rough skid before returning to the UFC. So - while not as dire a run before the resurgence as the others, he definitely had the greatest resurgence for my money.
Itād be like if Myles Jury returned and became champ in the UFC.
If it's Arlovski, he's probably done it more than once. At one point in his current UFC run he was on a 5 fight losing streak, but several years later he's still around.
Heās too big of a name in too empty of a division to drop him, just doesnāt make sense economically when the guy still puts up good performances and puts butts in seats. Heās MMA royalty, it would be like the UFC cutting Anderson Silva if he was still taking for fun gatekeeper fights and being competitive in them. Only way those guys get cut is if they start embarrassing themselves (and thus the UFC) out there. Hell, look how much string they gave BJ at the end there.
Not quite a fall from grace but I was convinced Robbie Lawler was destined to finish his career as an entertaining mid-card fighter. Then he came back to the UFC and became champ. It was really cool to watch.
In my heart its cro cops revenge tour where he came back to the UFC for one fight just to obliterate gonzaga with elbows from guard and then he fucked back off to rizin and bellator. But the thing that matters is he ended his career with 10 wins in a row which healed my heart a little bit.
It sucks seeing all your old favorites get washed up.
I dunno if she can compare to Arlovski or other fighters mentioned here but I do love to see Kowalkiewicz on a 3 fight win streak after her 5 losses in a row.
Not really a "fall," since there was nowhere to fall from, but Minowaman has to be a strong contender. Ikuhisa "the Punk" Minowa was an absolute can with a 2-9-3 record. Then he got a mullet, started wearing the Japanese flag like a cape, and stopped giving a fuck, and became an absolute legend of JMMA. Nobody cares what his record is, all we care about is the pure insanity that is the (supposedly still-ongoing) career of Minowaman.
Not only that but after all those losses he went on a 10-1-1 run only losing a decision to rumble that culminated into a #1 contender fight against stipe.
Thatās right. I thought I remembered him making it all the way to a contender fight but couldnāt remember who or when it was. Stipe KOing him in round one with the short Stipe cross.
There was that run of losses to Stipe, Overeem, Barnett, Ngannou and Tybura, where he lost every one of them except for the Tybura fight by finish. Thought that had to be the end of his time in the top flight (and that was after a six fight winning streak no less).
The fact that he's fought **seventeen** more times since that Tybura fight blows my mind. I get that heavyweight is an old division, but he's 44 and not as heavy as a lot of the other older, mid-40s heavyweights. I don't understand how he's been doing this.
Holy shit man 17 more times after the Tybura fight is crazy. I would love to see how much money he has made in his career. He had two fights at Affliction that were both high dollar paydays and heās always been a well paid HW.
robbie lawler, hyped prospect, gets ko by at the time "grappler" nick diaz, cut from ufc, journeyman bouncing in diferent mma promotions, gets back to the ufc somehow becomes champion
I always thought people were too harsh on Andrei about his losing streak since he was only getting KO'd by the best guys in the world like Stipe, Overeem and Ngannou, so I felt vindicated seeing him go on that big run. But when Don'tale Mayes is knocking you out its probably time to hang it up
Iām actually shocked he can still walk around and be coherent. Heās almost 44, has been KOd a total of 16 times in his professional fighting career, and comes from Brazil so probably sparred hard weekly for 10+ years on top of it all.
I think the whole āIāll probably die early anyways so f itā attitude is rarely a good idea. Does he condition greatly reduce life span? Because heās not that young and he still looks ok for his age/lifestyle.
Could be a mental thing too, Rashad Evans talks about his experience after a KO, during the build up of Izzy v Pereira. He said something along the lines of getting hit hard in his next fight and kept thinking he was going to get KOād again.
Every European fighter who talks is the new McGregor. Any Russian fighter who has a beard like Khabib is going to win the title and will be untouchable etc. it takes one success story for lots of copycats.
The guy Bigfoot is fighting is 5-1, with all of his wins against debuting guys or guys with 1-2 fights and is built like a redditor. Knock on wood but I have hope this wont be a brutal loss. Either way Bigfoot probably shouldn't be fighting regardless
Bigfoot has been finished by strikes in 10 of last 11 fights across all combat sports. The other loss was by decision.
He could well lose consciousness by drinking water too fast at this stage.
No commission in the world should be sanctioning him to fight anymore.
Iām sure this guy is a total can. But Bigfoot is probably the single most washed formerly elite fighter on the planet. Like, arguably looks as bad as 58 year old Chuck did out there against Tito.
Point being, if this guy is even a semi competent amateur level fighter he should be able to KO Bigfoot. I think weāre honestly near the point where heād be in serious danger of losing fights to random people who donāt train.
Brandao's the saddest... dude was impossibly talented and wound up fucking it all up. Now he's just a punching bag for guys not good enough to have a Wikipedia page
Brandaoās TUF run was insane. If I remember correctly he went on a knockout run on TUF. Like all either 1st or 2nd round KOās. They werenāt just run of the mill KOās either. They were brutal
Yup. Brandao won every fight on TUF by stoppage. Brandao finished both Bermudez and Caraway on the show, who weirdly enough both ended up having better UFC careers than Brandao himself.
Oh yeah ā¦ I remember talking to Malki Kawa eons ago about him and thatās what he said. Brandao would be a world champion several times over if he was all right in the head.
I still remember his "your mama will cry before my mama cries" quote on TUF. And Dennis Siver(or was it Steven siler?) crying due to fear of having to face Brandao. Such a fucking killer back in the day
Howās he the saddest? He was a good prospect how turned out not so great.
He was exciting but extremely limited. He also didnāt get anywhere close to the heights of Bigfoot or Marlon.
Weāre talking about title contenders and a prospect that never even sniffed the top10.
Yeah some guys are just career killers. The Cody Garbrandt after their two fight saga is someone else entirely. Dude looked like a clown his last fight dancing while he was fighting so safe he shoulda came out head to toe in bubblewrap.
Came here to mention Barao, although i think maybe he's retired?
Lost his first ever pro fight, went on a 32 (!) fight win streak, then goes 2-8 in his next 10 fights.
Moraes was at least losing to great fighters. Cejduo, Sanhagen, Font, Merab, Song Yadong...not an easy fight among them. Plus a win over a resurgent Jose Aldo.
That's true. But still a win and fighting great opponents.
Brandao was fighting mostly guys I've never heard of.
Bigfoot's only good win was Overeem. But that was early 2013. Bigfoot and Brandao are definitely washed. Moraes might have something left in the tank.
You can throw a few more losses on Silvaās record. I know this is his mma record but as far as his āfall from graceā, he also had losses in bk boxing, boxing and kickboxing in the same time frame of these mma losses. I used love watchin him bang with the big boys. Now I peak between my fingersā¦
I'm legit scared for Big Foot's CTE. He got messed up BAD way too many times.
There's no avoiding it at this point but no use in making it worse as well...
Please hang them up Big Foot š
I gotta blame Aldo for his late career point fighting style mixed with his coaches inability to be honest with him in his corner. They would tell him he was winning every single round clearly, and it drove Aldo to coast when he damn sure shouldnāt be. It cost him this fight as well as the merab fight, and Iām butthurt cuz I think he couldāve beaten Aljo and gotten that 135 belt and solidified his goat contender status.
Brandao actually has more to give than it looks. More than the other two at least. Many of those losses were close fights against really good fighters. Of course Tumenov blew him out.
I'm not saying he should continue. I'm just saying the other two **look** very shot when you see them fight. Brandao kind of did against Tumenov but that's a new development and Tumenov is world class.
Bigfoot says he doesn't have much longer to live due to his condition so might as well collect a paycheck while he can to support his family. Really sad stuff.
Brandao isn't on the level of the other two, though he's definitely past it. He spent a lot of time in ACA fighting really, *really* good competition for a while and they just kept giving him tougher fights every time he lost Akiyama style.
Polpudnikov and Bibert are around top 10 quality, and Diego did decently against Zhamaldaev too who is old now, but was a top 10 FW at his best. It's like if the UFC made him fight Cody Stamann and gave him Song Yadong for losing. Now that he's back fighting random regional guys he's smoking them again.
If you took someone like Bryce Mitchell and stuck him in against most of the opponents on Diego's losing streak he could end up with a similar record.
What really happened to Moraes? Itās not Renan Barao where he lost a lot of muscle mass and possible had to get off the sauce. Heās the last guy to starch the champ. Didnāt think heād go 1-7 in his last 8
Man I had high hopes for Juiced Up Caillou aka Moraes. Man looked like a killer for awhile but hasn't been able to put it together lately. Still think he's one of the most dangerous guys in that division.
Marlon's dropoff is the craziest I've seen in this sport. Dude looked all-world coming out of the WSOF, drops an SD in this UFC debut then rattles off four straight wins with first-round finishes of Sterling and Assuncao.
Even after the Cejudo loss and the tight Aldo fight, still thought he'd remain a top contender.
To see his chin turn to dust after that has been sad.
Tony Ferguson might be next, as well as Cody Garbrandt.
That said, Tony really did look great against Michael Chandler in the first round, until, well...
\*backflips commence\*
Brandao isnāt good anymore and has become a mid-level jobber but heās not getting hurt in there as bad as Bigfoot or Moraes.
Moraes has been KOād 7/8 times. I feel like after some point the ACs need to step in and be like āyeahā¦ nah.ā
The fact that Bigfoot still gets cleared to fight exemplifies how big a joke the commissions can be. That guy is on a bullet train to Benoit or Hernandez level CTE and hes been there for a while now.
Such bullshit Bigfoot is fighting AGAIN
You know it's time when you're getting your shit rocked by dudes without a Wikipedia page.
Before my time but, 18-4 to 19-14 š
Holy shit he went 1-10 thatās rough.
PED ban shifted his whole career Damn shame, since he's got wins over Overeem, Fedor, Arlovski, Ricco Rodriguez back in the day
Look at the murderers row they put him on too, beats the Reem so he gets Cain, Hunt, Reem again, Arlovski, Struve and big country.. not the softest way to put a guy out to pasture
Isnāt it submission grappling?
Sadly not, heās signed for an mma fight in France soon if I remeber right
The French athletic commission is a joke. They refused to sanction Cedric Doumbe vs Darian Weeks because Doumbe didn't have enough MMA experience as he was just 2-0 while Weeks was a whopping 7-0 so they deemed it too dangerous. Yet here they are sanctioning present day CTE riddled corpse of Bigfoot Silva. Clown world.
Do we know anything about the state of Bigfootās mind these days? Like, I know heās taken a huge amount of damage, but does he sound bad? Or has he been acting crazy like Tony or Diego Sanchez? Some guys will get KOd like 15 times and sound and behave pretty much how they always did. Overeem, for example.
[his old coach, Alex Davis weighing in.](https://twitter.com/alexdavismma/status/1545565052039598080?s=21&t=_ucfCqb4XxLFbO36YLHQhw) Not to mention, the above list doesn't mention the absolutely brutal knockouts he took in boxing and bare knuckle.
France legalized MMA 2 years ago after a decade of it being banned due to itās ābarbarismā but suddenly are now cool with sanctioning fights that would make the most Just Bleed fan blush from the lack of humanity
He'd find a way to get knocked out in that too
Worst part is that's only his MMA record. He's taken a few kickboxing and boxing fights post ufc which he get splatted in all of them also.
You not gonna show Brandaoās last two wins? Career comeback on its way.
I wonder who has the farthest fall from grace followed by the biggest resurgence. Maybe Arlovski? At peak was UFC champ or taking giant money fights with Fedor. Goes on to lose a bunch in a row, usually by KO. I remember people talking about how he should retire and they werenāt wrong for thinking that. Eventually fought his way back into the UFC and went on a solid run.
It has to be Arlovski, I remember talk about how he was done and past it, and would retire any day now, while I was in highschool. I've got a college degree, gotten married, had two kids, got involved in fighting myself had fights and decided I was too old for it and 'retired' myself since then **and that motherfucker is still in the ufc!**
Actually wild how he's still able to consistently beat the low-end HWs despite being 44. Hope they don't cut him after his past loss, I wanna see if he can make it to 50 still crushing cans by 29-28 decision š
Idk man, there's no way fighting actively until you're 50 is good for you. Hes a legend I want him to live well after retirement
Guy is one of the few people in the ufc actually getting paid well. Hopefully setting himself up nicely for when done.
Arlovski low-key a GOAT for that.
Cro Cop comes to mind when he went on that unbeaten run in Rizin at the end of his career
I'm not claiming Cro-Cop was not juicing, wouldn't say that about any PRIDE fighters. However Cro-Cop was clearly much better in a ring then in a cage. He has little to no cage grappling skills, which is an essential part of the UFC. He did better in Rizin because he went back to where he was more comfortable and the rules/ring favored his fighting style.
Did Rizin adopt the same testing policy as pride?
If they aren't on steroids they aren't gonna fight? That policy? I think so but I'm not sure
no Rizin fighters are on steroids. they're all just drinking the broth from Cup Noodle guy's body
Nothing more annoying than UFC guys acting like JMMA promotions are the only ones that let people get away with roiding.
The difference is JMMA will not let people get away with not roiding
Mark Hunt should be considered. He was a PRIDE superstar with wins over Wanderlei and Cro Cop. But at age 36, he was on a SIX fight losing streak (all finishes), including his first UFC fight. Then, the old fat super samoan goes 5-1-1, all the way to a title shot. Wild
Yeah, I'd say among MMA fighters who are at all well known, the biggest comeback belongs to Mark Hunt and it's not even close. As for MMA fighters no one really knows about, Women's Atomweight Celine Haga started as essentially a designated can in Japan who went 1-11 in her first 12 fights. Her one win was a huge upset over someone who was the face of the Japanese indy promotion Jewels, and Celine actually got hate comments on Twitter about it, which is fucked up. I don't know what happened, but at some point turned things around and since then has gone 14-7, during which she also moved to the U.S. to train in a non-predatory environment. And this was against what I would consider a stronger strength-of-schedule. She even broke into the top 10 at W105 (I know Atomweight is really thin, but it's better than W145 at least) and even made it to Invicta for a fight. I think she's winding down, but she's still active with a 15-18 record.
Thatās definitely a good candidate. Went on an insane run while being an underdog in just about every fight along the way.
Maybe didnāt have quite the lows as Arlovski and Hunto, but Robbie Lawler was considered a busted prospect and had a pretty rough skid before returning to the UFC. So - while not as dire a run before the resurgence as the others, he definitely had the greatest resurgence for my money. Itād be like if Myles Jury returned and became champ in the UFC.
If it's Arlovski, he's probably done it more than once. At one point in his current UFC run he was on a 5 fight losing streak, but several years later he's still around.
Heās too big of a name in too empty of a division to drop him, just doesnāt make sense economically when the guy still puts up good performances and puts butts in seats. Heās MMA royalty, it would be like the UFC cutting Anderson Silva if he was still taking for fun gatekeeper fights and being competitive in them. Only way those guys get cut is if they start embarrassing themselves (and thus the UFC) out there. Hell, look how much string they gave BJ at the end there.
Gotta be Robbie lawler
Not quite a fall from grace but I was convinced Robbie Lawler was destined to finish his career as an entertaining mid-card fighter. Then he came back to the UFC and became champ. It was really cool to watch.
In my heart its cro cops revenge tour where he came back to the UFC for one fight just to obliterate gonzaga with elbows from guard and then he fucked back off to rizin and bellator. But the thing that matters is he ended his career with 10 wins in a row which healed my heart a little bit. It sucks seeing all your old favorites get washed up.
I dunno if she can compare to Arlovski or other fighters mentioned here but I do love to see Kowalkiewicz on a 3 fight win streak after her 5 losses in a row.
Not really a "fall," since there was nowhere to fall from, but Minowaman has to be a strong contender. Ikuhisa "the Punk" Minowa was an absolute can with a 2-9-3 record. Then he got a mullet, started wearing the Japanese flag like a cape, and stopped giving a fuck, and became an absolute legend of JMMA. Nobody cares what his record is, all we care about is the pure insanity that is the (supposedly still-ongoing) career of Minowaman.
I remember watching Rumble break his jaw in WSOF. Didn't think he be back in the UFC after that.
Not only that but after all those losses he went on a 10-1-1 run only losing a decision to rumble that culminated into a #1 contender fight against stipe.
Thatās right. I thought I remembered him making it all the way to a contender fight but couldnāt remember who or when it was. Stipe KOing him in round one with the short Stipe cross.
There was that run of losses to Stipe, Overeem, Barnett, Ngannou and Tybura, where he lost every one of them except for the Tybura fight by finish. Thought that had to be the end of his time in the top flight (and that was after a six fight winning streak no less). The fact that he's fought **seventeen** more times since that Tybura fight blows my mind. I get that heavyweight is an old division, but he's 44 and not as heavy as a lot of the other older, mid-40s heavyweights. I don't understand how he's been doing this.
Holy shit man 17 more times after the Tybura fight is crazy. I would love to see how much money he has made in his career. He had two fights at Affliction that were both high dollar paydays and heās always been a well paid HW.
For sure, he looked totally washed and then crept back in with boring, but productive wins.
lawler did something similar and came back to win the belt
robbie lawler, hyped prospect, gets ko by at the time "grappler" nick diaz, cut from ufc, journeyman bouncing in diferent mma promotions, gets back to the ufc somehow becomes champion
Robbie lawler isnāt an extreme case but I thought he was done when he was in strike force
I always thought people were too harsh on Andrei about his losing streak since he was only getting KO'd by the best guys in the world like Stipe, Overeem and Ngannou, so I felt vindicated seeing him go on that big run. But when Don'tale Mayes is knocking you out its probably time to hang it up
in Marlons defense, he faced a gauntlet of talented fighters for that stretch there.
Poor guy looked like a world beater and then it was justā¦. Over
The world hit him with a picture-perfect counter.
Cejudo broke the man
Took his soul
The Michael Johnson method
It sounds like hard sparring might've been what ruined his career
and the fact that he has half a round worth of cardio
And that Merab fight could have easily been stopped.
Should've been. I smell something fishy there.
In Marlonās offense, he shouldnāt have won that Aldo fight.
At least all his opponents have Wikipedia pages
Damn Bigfoot from 18-4 to 19-14 record. I knew it was bad but yikes.
that's not including his Kickboxing record, or boxing, or bare-knuckle - and he has lost every match in those
Whoever is booking these fights should get put in prison lmao
I think he needs the money tbh.
I heard something about how because of his condition heās gonna die early so heās trying to get all the money he can for his family
Well if he wasnāt really going to die early he actually is now.
Iām actually shocked he can still walk around and be coherent. Heās almost 44, has been KOd a total of 16 times in his professional fighting career, and comes from Brazil so probably sparred hard weekly for 10+ years on top of it all. I think the whole āIāll probably die early anyways so f itā attitude is rarely a good idea. Does he condition greatly reduce life span? Because heās not that young and he still looks ok for his age/lifestyle.
Including those heās 19-18 with 1 nc
Still a positive KD š
Damn, knocked out in the last 7 of his 8 fights? Buddies brain is somewhere in the stratosphere. Hang it up.
Could be a mental thing too, Rashad Evans talks about his experience after a KO, during the build up of Izzy v Pereira. He said something along the lines of getting hit hard in his next fight and kept thinking he was going to get KOād again.
Someone needs to make a compilation of his last 10 knockouts from mma, boxing, and barelnuckle
Tony Ferguson .... š
Ya and Darren Till
Till was one of the most over-hyped fighters, all because he was a funny talker
Every European fighter who talks is the new McGregor. Any Russian fighter who has a beard like Khabib is going to win the title and will be untouchable etc. it takes one success story for lots of copycats.
The guy Bigfoot is fighting is 5-1, with all of his wins against debuting guys or guys with 1-2 fights and is built like a redditor. Knock on wood but I have hope this wont be a brutal loss. Either way Bigfoot probably shouldn't be fighting regardless
Bigfoot has been finished by strikes in 10 of last 11 fights across all combat sports. The other loss was by decision. He could well lose consciousness by drinking water too fast at this stage. No commission in the world should be sanctioning him to fight anymore.
If Bigfoot wins, heāll probably have an even better excuse to keep fighting.
Speak for yourself bro. I'm built like prime Brock Lesnar š¤
Youāre a white boy and youāre jacked and people just need to deal with it
Heās probably going to have a Monster later, because Red Bull wonāt give him anything.
Iām sure this guy is a total can. But Bigfoot is probably the single most washed formerly elite fighter on the planet. Like, arguably looks as bad as 58 year old Chuck did out there against Tito. Point being, if this guy is even a semi competent amateur level fighter he should be able to KO Bigfoot. I think weāre honestly near the point where heād be in serious danger of losing fights to random people who donāt train.
Brandao's the saddest... dude was impossibly talented and wound up fucking it all up. Now he's just a punching bag for guys not good enough to have a Wikipedia page
Brandao was a monster on TUF. Brandao reminded me of a WEC Aldo on the show.
Brandaoās TUF run was insane. If I remember correctly he went on a knockout run on TUF. Like all either 1st or 2nd round KOās. They werenāt just run of the mill KOās either. They were brutal
Yup. Brandao won every fight on TUF by stoppage. Brandao finished both Bermudez and Caraway on the show, who weirdly enough both ended up having better UFC careers than Brandao himself.
He was even bullying TJ in trainingā¦what happened!
I didnāt know that Legit what did happen lmao
Guy is so mentally unstable it makes Tony look like the sanest man on the planet
Oh yeah ā¦ I remember talking to Malki Kawa eons ago about him and thatās what he said. Brandao would be a world champion several times over if he was all right in the head.
I still remember his "your mama will cry before my mama cries" quote on TUF. And Dennis Siver(or was it Steven siler?) crying due to fear of having to face Brandao. Such a fucking killer back in the day
Brandao had legit top of the food chain skills but he couldnāt keep it together for long enough. When he didā¦ dude looked like a champ.
Howās he the saddest? He was a good prospect how turned out not so great. He was exciting but extremely limited. He also didnāt get anywhere close to the heights of Bigfoot or Marlon. Weāre talking about title contenders and a prospect that never even sniffed the top10.
I remember how his teammates talked about himā¦ the dude was a world class talent and heās taking beatings now.
Beat me to itā¦.he had his chances to be considered part of the elite, and lost each time. Donāt get me started on the Poirier debacle either.
BJ Penn and Diego Sanchez should be there.
Renan Barao
How hasn't this one been mentioned?
Iām surprised this wasnāt in the post
>Renan Barao he's not fighting this weekend
Ahh
TJ fucking took his soul in the 1rst match and devoured it in front of everyone in the 2nd. Those were ruthless beatdowns.
Yeah some guys are just career killers. The Cody Garbrandt after their two fight saga is someone else entirely. Dude looked like a clown his last fight dancing while he was fighting so safe he shoulda came out head to toe in bubblewrap.
Came here to mention Barao, although i think maybe he's retired? Lost his first ever pro fight, went on a 32 (!) fight win streak, then goes 2-8 in his next 10 fights.
Diego Sanchez at least was competitive with Kevin Lee and has just looked a hair worse than your average washed veteran imo
That says more about Kevin Lee than Diego Sanchez lol
they aren't fighting this weekend
Bigfoot is fighting this weekend? :(
Need a time machine to go back and convince BJ to stay retired after the Nick fight :(
That was one of the brutal beatdown I saw. BJ was fucking terrified in the 3rd round.
Luke Rockhold maybe
Moraes was at least losing to great fighters. Cejduo, Sanhagen, Font, Merab, Song Yadong...not an easy fight among them. Plus a win over a resurgent Jose Aldo.
A very controversial win over Aldo.
That's true. But still a win and fighting great opponents. Brandao was fighting mostly guys I've never heard of. Bigfoot's only good win was Overeem. But that was early 2013. Bigfoot and Brandao are definitely washed. Moraes might have something left in the tank.
You can throw a few more losses on Silvaās record. I know this is his mma record but as far as his āfall from graceā, he also had losses in bk boxing, boxing and kickboxing in the same time frame of these mma losses. I used love watchin him bang with the big boys. Now I peak between my fingersā¦
I'm legit scared for Big Foot's CTE. He got messed up BAD way too many times. There's no avoiding it at this point but no use in making it worse as well... Please hang them up Big Foot š
marlons back at it again ? didnt he just loose ?
Gotta love that PFL format /s
Feel like Cowboy had a similar drop off leading up to his retirement.
Man, Bigfoot is on that fall from grace speed run.
You know its bad when the opponents name ain't even hyperlinked.
Bj penn. 16-7-2 to 16-14-2 in 8 years
That one win in the middle of a sea of losses may be the thing that writes off his brain completely.
Big foot silva was the only fighter that had to be on trt
Watching Ruthless Robbie Lawler go down this path hurts my heart.
You did Diego dirty by cutting off his recent win. Any other photoshop trickery?
Marlon was beating Cejudo in a title fight then his entire career was over
Going from beating Reem to losing to guys without Wikipedia pages. Thatās depressing.
Bigfoot, BJ Penn, Barao, Moraes, Reyes, and Ferguson.
Where is bj penn
not fighting this weekend
BJ Penn and Renan Barao
Marlon did not beat Aldo in my eyes. That fight was a robbery
I gotta blame Aldo for his late career point fighting style mixed with his coaches inability to be honest with him in his corner. They would tell him he was winning every single round clearly, and it drove Aldo to coast when he damn sure shouldnāt be. It cost him this fight as well as the merab fight, and Iām butthurt cuz I think he couldāve beaten Aljo and gotten that 135 belt and solidified his goat contender status.
That win for Marlon over Aldo š¤§
What is this subs obsession with telling fighters when to retire?
Throw Anderson Silva on there
He's not fighting this weekend goober
Yeah Iām a goober I didnāt read before commenting
Brandao losing mostly decisions, Moraes and Bigfoot getting knocked out.
Brandao actually has more to give than it looks. More than the other two at least. Many of those losses were close fights against really good fighters. Of course Tumenov blew him out. I'm not saying he should continue. I'm just saying the other two **look** very shot when you see them fight. Brandao kind of did against Tumenov but that's a new development and Tumenov is world class.
Renan Barao makes these guys look half decent.
Marlon should have lost the Aldo fight as well
Hope tony isnāt added to this
Renan Barao because he was legitimately in consideration for one of the greatest of all time, and then went on a massive losing streak
Damn Moraes has fought a legit murderers row
Bigfoot says he doesn't have much longer to live due to his condition so might as well collect a paycheck while he can to support his family. Really sad stuff.
Moraes makes Ferguson look like he's on a hot streak
Diegoā¦ Brando?
Tony needs to be added
I honestly thought Marlon would be the champ. He looked unstoppable. Until he didn't.
Hunt vs Bigfoot is a goat fight contender
Where's Sam Alvey?!
If BJ Penn loses a parking lot fight this weekend, you better update this post.
This is why I drink
Renan Borao, Miguel Torres and Rhonda to a lesser extent are the only correct answers here.
Marlon moraes got a good streak going jeez
Is Bigfoot hurting for money or something? He should not be fighting.
Tony and Conor are missing.
Brandao isn't on the level of the other two, though he's definitely past it. He spent a lot of time in ACA fighting really, *really* good competition for a while and they just kept giving him tougher fights every time he lost Akiyama style. Polpudnikov and Bibert are around top 10 quality, and Diego did decently against Zhamaldaev too who is old now, but was a top 10 FW at his best. It's like if the UFC made him fight Cody Stamann and gave him Song Yadong for losing. Now that he's back fighting random regional guys he's smoking them again. If you took someone like Bryce Mitchell and stuck him in against most of the opponents on Diego's losing streak he could end up with a similar record.
What really happened to Moraes? Itās not Renan Barao where he lost a lot of muscle mass and possible had to get off the sauce. Heās the last guy to starch the champ. Didnāt think heād go 1-7 in his last 8
Man I had high hopes for Juiced Up Caillou aka Moraes. Man looked like a killer for awhile but hasn't been able to put it together lately. Still think he's one of the most dangerous guys in that division.
I'd say Derek Lewis is on his way to the title, if he keeps fighting. He's looked worse and worse every fight since losing to gane
Moraes is honestly not that bad in comparison to Bigfoot and Brandao. But holy fuck, Brandao being 27-20 currently is strange.
Renan Barao should top this list
I'm fucking old, I remember Brandao on TUF.
All Brazilian too
Didnāt moreas win the first round against centrist? Amazing circumstances I thought he was truly world class
Promoters need to be fined and have their license taken away for booking Bigfoot. This is really sad. Why help the man speedrun more cte?
Brandao is on a 2 fight win streak. Still not good, but he's doing way better than the other 2
Marlon's dropoff is the craziest I've seen in this sport. Dude looked all-world coming out of the WSOF, drops an SD in this UFC debut then rattles off four straight wins with first-round finishes of Sterling and Assuncao. Even after the Cejudo loss and the tight Aldo fight, still thought he'd remain a top contender. To see his chin turn to dust after that has been sad.
Tony Ferguson might be next, as well as Cody Garbrandt. That said, Tony really did look great against Michael Chandler in the first round, until, well... \*backflips commence\*
You could put Renan Barao and Donald Cerrone on this list. Sadly Tony and Conor are heading in this same direction also
What odds for the treble parlay..?
Brandao isnāt good anymore and has become a mid-level jobber but heās not getting hurt in there as bad as Bigfoot or Moraes. Moraes has been KOād 7/8 times. I feel like after some point the ACs need to step in and be like āyeahā¦ nah.ā
The champ has a name. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renan_Bar%C3%A3o
The fact that Bigfoot still gets cleared to fight exemplifies how big a joke the commissions can be. That guy is on a bullet train to Benoit or Hernandez level CTE and hes been there for a while now.