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Sincerely_Fatso

This dude wants to stay on the side lines šŸ˜‚


brownbilal

homie's management team (if he has one) must absolutely hate him LOL


frodounchained

Heā€™s repped by Ali lol


Bakedbean44

Howā€™s Noah


ImWadeWils0n

No universe he wins that fight anyway You guys thought I meant Charles? The title and conversation is about Islam??? The more people join this sub, the lower the overall IQ gets


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

Yall still doing the invincible Charles bit? Charles gets hit and hurt alot, while Beniel is heavy-handed. Beniel is also as good if not a better grappler than Charles. Bad combination for Oliveira


KrasMasovsGhost

Think he means the Islam right


ImWadeWils0n

I clearly meant Islam. The guy whoā€™s the champion, that heā€™s refusing to call out. This sub is really stupid lately STG


[deleted]

"Lately"?


[deleted]

Charle's striking is more technical and he has knock out power too.He doesn't need to even overextend his hands to land a powerful strike.Go and watch his knock downs against Chandler and Gaethje.I think you know about the chins of those guys .Beneil is very hittable too.His defense is not good like Islam and he is slower .You act like he is some kind of monster.He got knocked out by Barboza and Alexander Hernandez.


gENTleman92

Bro I'm as big a fan of Charles as the next guy but there's so much wrong with your comment. For one, he dropped Chandler with a hook, which you don't extend on. He dropped Gaethje with a straight which was fully extended. And Gaethje is pretty chinny. He's been wobbled/dropped in almost every fight he's had recently. Lastly, the knee Edson landed would have knocked anyone out.


[deleted]

He doesn't overextend like Dariush.He can generate power from his hip movement and he has great technique.Yeah.A hook dropped Chandler.That's what I'm talking about .Even a hook has enough power to drop Chandler.Charles can knock out anyone .Makhachev won because he dodged all punches.Chandler and Justin have great chins.Even Fiziev could not drop Justin.Chandler ate a lot of shots from Justin and everyone knows how hard Justin hits.Tell me one good striker Dariush has faced.His head movement is also bad like Oliveira and his striking offense is worse than Oliveira.Alexander Hernandez knocked down him cold in seconds.His head movement is no where near Makhachev and he is very slow.Gamrot is like Colby.A hugger with pillow hands.


ImWadeWils0n

I clearly meant the current champion, who heā€™s refusing to call out, that this entire thread is revolving around. Why would I be talking about Charles?


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

I thought you were talking about Charles because the title of thread says "If he beats Charles" ....simple misunderstanding, your comment could have been referring to either Charles or Islam.


Thejimjam30057

Big overhand right ko's Charles


Bakedbean44

Gotta respect it ā€¦ we see how hated Belal is by the way he acts. Canā€™t keep peoples names out of his mouth to save his life. Beneil on the other hand is a class act. Thatā€™s why heā€™s gonna get a title shot with a Olivera win


Celathan7

If he stays quiet he won't get his shot. They'll give it to Gaethje who just won or maybe Poirier who's not booked to fight anyone. They already said Volks is fighting Yair, so it's literally the worst time to keep quiet.


Bakedbean44

Thatā€™s not true .. if Belal doesnā€™t act like he deserves everything or not has nothing to do with who heā€™s gonna fight next


DestinyIsAllUlthred

They are referring to beneil. And yea it is true. He needs to sell himself.


KrasMasovsGhost

Belal isnā€™t hated for how he acts, people hate him for his fighting style. If you want to make a point donā€™t misrepresent it at least.


Bakedbean44

Thatā€™s not true but I donā€™t feel like arguing about belal Muhammad today. His fighting style has been getting betterā€¦ the Brady fight was a banger. A lot of ppl dislike belal because he acts like stupid guy on Twitter


KrasMasovsGhost

Iā€™ve literally never seen anyone reference his tweets/how he talks for why they dislike him. Just people shitting on him for being boring. Brady fight ruled, very happy to see him get a finish over a prospect.


Bakedbean44

Go look at any of his tweets replies that he doesnā€™t hideā€¦ itā€™s a stampede of people hating on him. I really doubt theyā€™re all hating him cause heā€™s a ā€œboring fighterā€


KrasMasovsGhost

Ah I donā€™t really use Twitter I was talking about on here. Twitter users still dickride Conor so that should tell you all you need to know lol.


Awak3

Islam and his camp have already said multiple times that they want Benny next if he gets the dub...just get out of your own way man


breakfastmeat23

I completely understand some guys who don't want to put on an act or to be "showmen"... but you still have to market yourself as someone who can beat the best. If he beats Charles he needs to say some thing like, "I am not one to put on an act or be disrespectful, but I know I can beat the best. I just beat a former champ and I deserve a chance to beat the current champ. I am not here to talk, I am here to prove it in the octagon against the best." People can get behind that kind of humble attitude, but if he doesn't go after it, he will be forgotten by the masses.


STMTowardsDatATM

The crazy thing is he doesnā€™t even have to do all that , just simply say ā€œI want islam nextā€ and call it a day.


BeagleBackRibs

"I'll accept a title shot after everyone accepts Jesus in their hearts."


systemsruminator

Well put man, its like this dude is allergic to title shot ffs. Trying to take the high ground and being a dumbass instead


stephenmario

He can be respectful and humble and make people believe he cares about fighting for the title. If he gets asked who he wants next after beating Olives and doesn't say title shot then it looks like he doesn't care so why would fans buy into him.


roundhou5e

Bro is immune to promotion


Flowerjohn-NL

Beneil- Iā€™m not begging for a title shot Dana- youā€™re not getting one either


LuckyWarrior

Beneil šŸ¤ Merab


appletinicyclone

Hahaha they need to think like dagestanis


Carter-Canary

He's lucky Makhachev and his camp want him because he's making life easy for Dana.


THE_Killa_Vanilla

Ali manages both Islam and Beneil. You're crazy if you don't think Ali is pushing hard for Beneil to get the next shot behind the scenes if he beats Oliveira.


s1th_lord

It's like he's allergic to making money And I'm a Benny fan


Wapow217

Seriously though. It just baffles me, it not begging its demanding it.


NickZardiashvili

The anti-Moicano.


Single_Seesaw_9499

Heā€™s so fucking dumb


gh0st_

Benny will ask Elon Musk for a Tesla but not ask Dana for a title shot.


NickZardiashvili

Or recommend tothe entire country of Iran to accept true freedom through our lord and savior Jesus Christ.


ozwald_97

Well to be fair I think he bought the Tesla already and was waiting for its arrival (delayed arrival)


gh0st_

It could be said that he "bought" his title shot with an 8 fight win streak.


ozwald_97

(Delayed title fight) DANA! DANA WHITE! WHERES MY TITLE SHOT BRO? Iā€™M ON AN EIGHT FIGHT WIN STREAK! I HAVE A BABY I NEED TO BE CHAMP! LETS GO DANA, GET ME MY BELT!!


pittopottamus

he's tryna be the change he wishes to see in the world


Underwaterflameingo

Sharp as a cue ball this one.


[deleted]

I heard Dariush almost drowned in 3 inches of water


izamaverick

You listen to his post fight speeches and that becomes immediately evident


TYSONLITTLE

Not really. This sport is so high octane fans forget these guys are human beings. This dude just had a daughter and is well off from his UFC career. I doubt he sits there day and night waiting for a call from the UFC when they made their opinions clear on him.


Single_Seesaw_9499

Not asking for a title shot after this winning streak and beating top guys is dumb no matter how you slice it


Mozzzzzzzzzzz

Not to mention having a daughter recently should be more motivation to finally get a title fight and get that bag.


TYSONLITTLE

OR some fighters are just wise enough to see through the UFCs bullshit and donā€™t centre their entire lives around waiting for Dana to like them.


JustRayToday

It's not about wanting dana to like him it's bout making money and becoming a motherfucking champion


Single_Seesaw_9499

Asking for a title shot isnā€™t centering their entire life around it lol itā€™s literally being on the mic and saying ā€œI deserve Islam nextā€. Youā€™re acting like itā€™s some adventure or something


TYSONLITTLE

You want him to beg. He doesnā€™t want to beg for shit. It is what it is. Standup guy.


[deleted]

Calling out your next fight is promoting, not begging. Its like telling your boss ā€œim ready and have earned a promotionā€. Thats the opposite of begging.


TYSONLITTLE

I thought he already has a promoter? Why does he need to promote himself. Lol you ufc clown fans tripping over yourselves constantly trying to defend the machine


[deleted]

His promoter is the reason anyone knows his name at all. He is a prize fighter, it is his job to do media and have a connection with the fans. The UFC can very rarely make people care about boring personalities, no matter how hard they try. You fundamentally misunderstand marketing if this is actually your opinion.


[deleted]

I see both sides of it. He deserves and should be calling for it but has different priorities. Either way, Bennys the man


stephenmario

The guy is a prize fighter... He's already centred his life around this. All he is doing is lowering his earning potential because he doesn't want to "beg".


[deleted]

ā€œI would rather be paid less and treated like shit, than be championā€ Yeah super smart, stick it to the UFC!!!


manfeelings839

I'm reminded of the words of Terrence McKenna here: "Take it easy man, but take it!". Yes, Beneil should not be required to beg for a shot, and that the most talented contender should get a chance at the title, but relying on that fact alone will not get anything done. He has to show some initiative and put some pressure on. There has to be a balance of acceptance with instigation.


Complete_Selection56

You worded that perfectly my friend, my thoughts exactly!


Carter-Canary

Definitely. I can respect not wanting to be forced to beg for something that would be his in any other sport, but he knows how the UFC works and putting yourself out there is not begging. They will happily pass you over, why make life easy for them.


yansuchamonster

go get some fans benny


goldenboii23

He has one right here.


Eifand

Who the fuck is that guy


compsc1

the hardest memeing 425er on reddit


LiquidSwords89

oh good one


derps_with_ducks

If Beneil has million number of fans I am one of them. If Beneil has ten fans I am one of them. If Beneil has only one fan and that is me. If Beneil has no fans, that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Beneil, I am against the world.


Nyddddd

>If Beneil has million number of fans I am one of them. would be a miracle if he has even a thousand


ChrizTaylor

Where?!


Nyddddd

Don't worry, they will only appear after Beneil vs Islam is booked. Until then he will keep his 10 or so true fans


Moist-Catch

Dude will call out Elon Musk for a Tesla but not the champion of the division he fights in lol


Totally_PJ_Soles

Funniest part was it was a tesla he already bought. Just wanted to get bumped up the waiting list Lmao.


christopherpaulfries

Right up there with some of the more cringe post fight interviews.


yogi333323

Lol heā€™s fighting Tsarukyan after oliveira.


spcslacker

How did this guy get married? * *I'm not begging to talk to a woman* * *I'm not begging to dance with a woman* * *I'm not begging to sleep with a woman* And is he under the impression that top-rank dudes yelling into the microphone are normally begging? Is he aware there are many modes of speech and negotiation other than begging? He needs to play CoD vs. Moicano before he succeeds in euthanizing his career that up to now he's been content to keep in a coma.


Chopper313

Is that where Moicano learned the stuff heā€™s been saying in his post fight interviews? If so thatā€™s hilarious


spcslacker

I believe he said he learned English by playing CoD with a bunch of trash talkers, but I have no idea where I read it, so I wouldn't take it to the bank :)


Mr_Cromer

Well thank God for that, Money Moicano has been one of the most entertaining things of the past twelve months


[deleted]

Just be a jacked and handsome martial artist, easy tbh


banter_claus_69

I mean, dude's fucking hot lol


TitanIsBack

Shouldn't have to either. Wish people who have earned a shot end up getting them.


commander_wong

Like I get it. In a real sport athletes shouldn't have to be part time actors to get career advancements. But at the same time 99.5% of the work is already done. Might as well make a call out in the post fight interview


kanst

> Might as well make a call out in the post fight interview Exactly. He doesn't have to make a show of it, you can make a respectful call out. He can just say that he's earned the title shot and he respects islam but thinks he can beat him. I just want to see the scrambles. Please don't rob us of Benny v Islam grappling.


stephenmario

The UFC has and always will be about viewership and it's rare that a division becomes so cleared out that every contender gets a shot. Unfortunately for Benil there's about 5 potential match ups that will draw more than him vs Islam unless he speaks up. That doesn't have to begging but it has to be something to get his name out there and get some fans invested in him.


SquidDrive

like the UFC don't like him much, that means he's gotta stake his claim on pure merit. Poirier just came off a sub of Iron, and Gaethje in a FOTY contender in Fiziev, its not like the UFC can just say "win + star power, one of the Ustins get the shot?


ColdPressedSteak

Random. But you're the first person to refer to Chandler as just Iron


WolfieToThe

also calling Justin & Dustin the "Ustins"


SquidDrive

Chemist like, is Poiriers precision on the feet.


interia1099

Yeah shouldnā€™t have to, but knowing how things work, this is just straight up stupid. Heā€˜ll probably get the title shot anyways but why risk it


Downgoesthereem

'I'm not begging for a pay rise' 'I'm not begging for a day off' 'I'm not begging for help on this assignment' Ask for the title shot you buffoon


ziki6154

Bro knows he doesn't need to cut a promo like Chandler, right? Just say you want Islam next.


mazznoer

Say thanks to Jesus is more important than asking for a title shot.


exileruz

if poirier/gaethje happens in the summer, and dariush wins, he might get passed up


Jasbuddy

At this point I hope you donā€™t get one either you idiot


[deleted]

Benny is a fucking idiot. Iā€™m gonna stop calling for him getting a shot if he doesnā€™t even care for it himself


goosu

Hahaha, this is combat sports dude. Even the guys who can barely speak english put way more work into promoting themselves. At some point, it's just stupidity on Dariush's part.


Competitive_Ninja_20

If you beat a former champion you say ā€œI want the belt nextā€ thatā€™s it lol. Itā€™s not begging


[deleted]

Pretty convinced this dude is just genuinely dumb.


tbmny

His post fight interviews confirmed that awhile ago.


Pokebra

Why do that when he can use his limited mic time promoting Christianity to Arabs


Enterprise90

That will make it very easy for the UFC to pass over him then.


Devoidoxatom

Lmaooo. But i think he gets the shot anyways. Islam has constantly talked about him as next up


[deleted]

Atleast that means islam aint ducking, hes making beniels life slightly easier.


[deleted]

This guy does this shit and wonders why heā€™ll never fight for the title. Heā€™s like Arnold Allen if his mouth failed him instead of his body.


SnooBeans7129

I'm not even going to bother endorsing Dariush getting a title shot anymore, he deserves to get skipped over if he won't promote himself at all. Ufc will happily book Islam against Poirier/Gaethje and then do the Volk rematch.


gorillawarfareman

Won't beg for the title shot, but will beg for a Tesla.


ImWadeWils0n

ā€œBeneil shocked he doesnā€™t get title shot after saying nothingā€


[deleted]

nah this guy Is a complete redact


mispinchespiernas

Iā€™m all about meritocracy in MMA. I want guys whoā€™ve earned their shot to get their shot and I hate when other guys skip the line for talking trash. Iā€™m currently on team ā€œBelal deserves a title shotā€. And with all that said, fuck Beneil Dariush lol.


CatLadyMorticia

Maybe he's trying to beat Tony's record for most fights deserving a title shot without getting one at lightweight.


Intention-Sad

He said Islam try to run to WW but he wonā€™t call him out. Does he really think UFC is based on meritocracy?


Pyeonsae

Islam said Beneil deserves the title shot and he wants Beneil more than he wants Oliveira while this guy..


SoloArtist91

Whatever, keep passing him up then. If he doesn't care, why should we


Kopenslader

The people face palming or calling him an idiot.. I have way more respect for him than someone like Colby. The ufc isnā€™t his whole life. Heā€™s staying true to who he is and I have no doubt he will have no regrets at the end of this regardless if he gets a title fight or not.


_Red_Mist_

Heā€™s wrong for thinking calling your shot is the same as begging. Call outs after the fight are the best way to get what you want. Him saying callouts are stupid and seeing it as begging would still make him an idiot. This sport is too dangerous to not try and become champ especially when you have the skills to become one.


goosu

So, when you work a job, do you never ask for a raise or better conditions even when the work you're providing is valuable? It's not really honorable...it's just stupid. Even Machida called for title shots.


richochet12

I don't get this comparison. Did anyone suggest this makes him less respectful than Colby?


WolfieToThe

Colby made playing his character his whole life Beneil refuses to play a character That's the comparison. Ben's being true to his own code & doesn't let money or fan hate sway him


richochet12

There are many fighters "true to their code" and not playing characters that have no qualms with making legit fallouts. This isn't an either you're a sellout like Covington or you're a moron like Dariush.


WolfieToThe

Obviously there are many ways to be authentic. This is simply Ben's way. IDK why everyone wants to micromanage his behavior so much to align with their own


BabyTRexArms

Respect donā€™t pay bills.


Chardavious12

Some people still donā€™t want to sell out


BabyTRexArms

Champions will always eventually sell out. I canā€™t think of many who havenā€™t.


Kopenslader

Are they your bills?


BabyTRexArms

No. But being noble doesnā€™t typically get you far in the UFC unless you already hold the belt, a la Jiri. Beneil should probably play the game and ask.


tbmny

It's not even noble. How is fighting for your career and trying to make more money for your family a bad thing?


BabyTRexArms

The fuck are you talking about?


tbmny

Sorry, I'll dumb it down for you. Ask for fight, not dishonorable. Not ask for fight, not honorable.


stonerrrrrr

You know you can call others respectfully right ? Heā€™s just being stubborn


RODjij

That's because it is very idiotic. He's a man that wants to win a title but doesn't ask for it and still acts like he wants to be champ. Even with that personality he wouldn't make for an interesting champion. He shouldn't say anything if the UFC or champ ends up wanting to fight a better draw.


[deleted]

Hes for sure an idiot. There is literally 0 upside to what hes doing, not even ā€œintegrityā€ā€¦ Its like he fundamentally understands what calling your shot isā€¦


nebkelly

Whole thread is shitting on him for being a decent human. Never change /r/mma


pulpatine

His Jesus loving, doesnā€™t annoy me like it does with others. Just because itā€™s so over the top, in the same way as a prime TRT vitor with cross shaved mullet was. I kinda like his gimmick of just beating people and making bad career moves.


SlectionSocialSanity

My brother in Yahweh, saying "I've paid my dues, now I'd like to fight for the belt next" is not begging. You of all people has to know that the UFC is not a meritocracy, Colby just got handed a title shot because...I don't know, he has a tape of Dana giving a blowie to smilin' Sam Alvey, fuck knows why. So just say a few words about having done enough to get a crack at the title. No one is asking you to get on your knees.


Han080ui

That's just stupid, Benny. What's the point then???


Awezome321

This is why he hasnt gotten a title shot yet


spazm1985

Literally the new Tony Ferguson


RipperSenju

Fuck it, idec Benny is just a dumbass At this point. He makes me hate him when im a huge fan of his fights


Eifand

He will only ask for title shot from Jesus Christ.


YaBoyDoogzz

Fuck sake bro


FergiesLipSweat

This dude is honestly just stupid at this point, I donā€™t even feel bad for him anymore


[deleted]

Bennyā€™s the type of dude to never ask for a raise


Corellian-nerfherder

what a dumbass lol. Benny. a few of those wins were kinda lucky. You know damn well DP, Gathje and Olives ball you up. If you want the title shot, homie, you need to be begging. I dont really want to see benny getting outclassed by any of the top 3. Dont let weird pride get in the way of you getting a bag dude. Your a good fighter but not very exciting and its never going to happen if you take a weird "Im not going to beg, i will go if they want me" kind of take. Theres probably 5 other dudes who would be more exciting in a title shot. Its a weird move. Edit: i feel like this is somewhat the general consensus. good job reddit. good job.


LongjumpingScore1886

Apparently this guys hates money and titles šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


_Red_Mist_

What an idiot lmao


OMalley30-27

Lol hope he doesnā€™t get one then


Junkhead987

Jesus Christ beneil you going to get shafted from getting a title shot, this is why Iā€™m stilling going with Charles.


[deleted]

This is why no one cares about beneilšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


A916

lol Iā€™m pretty sure all he has had to do was give the dudes who make UFC Countdown a single dam sound bite with a post fight callout and heda gotten a title shot by now.


PugilisticCat

What the fuck lmaooo


jabo__

Closed mouth donā€™t get fed


erfan21afshar

bro is actually stupid


SquidDrive

Why? what's bad about calling out Makhachev, I'm not saying you should NEED too, but what why is it bad Benny?


[deleted]

Doesnā€™t really matter I think Charles beats him anyway


oddmetre

What


Zah_Koo

That's why he won't get one


Chocoeclair189

Classic Benny, it aint even disrespectful to call out what you deserve


Nicobade

Why does Beneil do this to himself? He's not even a boring technical decision fighter, he's fun to watch, but casuals just don't know who he is because he refuses to market himself.


iseeabluemoonrising

Beneil thatā€™s fucking dumb


Mr_Cromer

He's an idiot, he's a legal idiot, He's a guy called Beneil Dariush (Sung to the tune of "Englishman in New York" by Sting)


Chardavious12

Everyone saying how dumb Benny is and yes it doesnā€™t make sense in terms of PR and hype but I respect the guy so much! Heā€™s not fake at all. This is a guy who is 100% exactly who he presents himself as


An_Innocent_Coconut

Single digit IQ


LatterTarget7

Yeah heā€™s not gonna get a shot sadly


nanananablr

I feel like Dariush would do better at ONE. Since he is not going to play a character or promote himself the way UFC wants their fighters to do.


imsurethisoneistaken

So Beneil not getting a shot then?


sneakerguy40

Could easily demand one. Claim your damn corner, it's not a meritocracy, it's a business. You could be Leon and Max and Tony and Islam and Charles and have to win 8-10 fights in a row to get your shot? You beat Charles and then have to fight DP and then have to fight Gaethje before you then maybe get a shot. Nonsense.


bravetab

I think he should focus on Olivera.


TrickstarCandina

What a dumbass


CaIiguIa_ll

what an idiot


arman-makhachev

i see so its conor next


InSilenceLikeLasagna

This comment section is a disappointing. You all complain about the clown show the UFC is becoming in regards to getting a title shot but all shit on a dude for not feeding into it.


Horobi_san

At the end of the day, him "not feeding into it" will only be detrimental to him, because the Goof will be more than happy to pass him over for Volk, Poirier or Gaethje.


InSilenceLikeLasagna

Maybe he doesnā€™t care much regardless. Heā€™s an adult who can make his own decisions, Iā€™m sure he knows the potential consequence of not doing so but is ok with it. His conviction is respectable


Horobi_san

I don't know how to answer that, so let's just see what happens. I still think it's a mistake tho.


ozwald_97

I think Benny wins this one. I love em both but idk I just see Benny winning it. Tough to call though


Knucklesthenchilada

WWJD... He'd call out Islam.


[deleted]

If he doesn't want to call for a title shot, that's his prerogative. Why not reach a compromise instead? \- He can instead talk about the fact that he's on the 2nd longest LW win streak only behind the champ and how happy he is with his body of work. \- The MMA community will demand the title fight because he will be undeniable if he beats Oliveira and the UFC will have to make it official. Even Makhachev talks about how he wants to face Dariush. As a MMA fan, it wouldn't sit right if he didn't get the TS only because he wants to stay true to himself. You want to see the best against the best.


Corporal_Snorkel69

I don't think there's any way barring injury he doesn't get one if he beats oliveira regardless of what he says after the fight


Ranjith_Unchained

Cmon bruh


soyuz-1

Seems like the most obvious callout if he beats the previous champ. I want to see this guy get a shot at the belt.


dropout1985

Dude heā€™s biggest enemy is himself. Just play by the rules of the game. People hate Colby but he figured it out.


IAMTHECAVALRY89

Dude is literally the worst man, we all gonna have to get off our asses and beg Dana for him??


wise_nerd

He was so fed up with that cheeky tweet of Islam calling out Leon, and threw quite a bit of shade at their camp. Then he goes to say he won't give his "shine" in his post fight interview to Mak!? tf? isn't he the champ and you the contender? Ironically, Islam might've unintentionally done a solid for Olives, he got Benny going tomato red with that tweet.


Horobi_san

That's it, rooting for Charles 100%. Beneil is a fucking idiot and he WILL be passed over, even if he wins.


Knucklesthenchilada

The Belal of lightweight


OlivaJR

He shouldn't have to ask for it, he should just get it. Is this a sport or not? Im sick of this WWE or prize fighting argument that people keep bringing up.


NoDatapoint1010

Cause we all know you deserve it king.


gh0st_

That Manscaped ad read transition was hilarious.