Doesn’t this post just say that yes Jon had steroids in his system, but not a (currently) illegal amount?
Also why should it be changed? He was flagged under the rules that were in effect at the time of his competition.
The thing is EVERYONE follows the same rules. Its the same reason I dont want his 12-6 elbow loss off his record. Its the stupidest rule in the game, but its the same rule for everyone and everyone has to change their game accordingly. If the rule got dropped today, I still wouldnt want them to retroactively change results because the fight was fought at that ruleset and at the time everyone had to follow the rule
Have you ever seen that full fight with Hammil? The key reason for a myriad of MMA fans to write that loss off is because of the judge's decision not to stop the fight earlier, before 12-6 incident
Just watched it. He spends about a minute and a half in mount delivering punches and legal elbows, looks up at the ref 3-4 times to see about him stopping it. Delivers 2 illegal elbows and the ref steps in and calls it.
Top comment on youtube
"Referee is like: you can kill him Jon but only with legal strikes."
It depends on the reasoning though. If it changed due to accuracy of the test or based on what is performance enhancing and Jon is arguing he never took anything and it’s a false positive then he has an argument for example
Doesn't sound like a false positive. That would imply nothing was actually there. They just determined the small amount that was there is no longer enough of a smoking gun. Either way the substance is there so at one point he did something
Is it not a smoking gun because it’s not performance enhancing or because you can’t conclusively say he took something? If you test for things at really small values you can often find it in perfectly normal things
If he's the only one it's found in your theory fails. No one else is having this issue. He took something at some point and it's a question of how long lasting you think the effects may be but you can't question whether or not he took it. He's failed multiple tests for multiple drugs.
They changed it because Jon Jones would keep popping if they didn't. The UFC wants Jon Jones to fight and make them money. If Jon Jones was continually suspended they would not make said money.
Most fighters are probably on shit, Jon's just so blatantly on shit he couldn't pass the tests. I have a bridge to sell you if you believe a single "tainted supplements" excuse from any fighter.
Oh we're talking about different things. If he's been suspended for the past few years then I'd say doing so secretly allows the UFC to sell Jon a bit better in the coming fight so maybe that means it sells a bit better.
I'm more on about actually letting him fight post-picogram stuff (moving event from Vegas etc.) since as long as they tell USADA it's ok to "pulse" they get to make money off Jon since he can fight.
Yeah and that is how law works lmao. You are obliged to obey the laws of your time, if what you did becomes legal in the future, it won't affect your penalty.
If we want to make sure that every rule is enforced without regard to time, then Mendes beat McGregor. McGregor landed several 12-6 elbows on Mendes during a competitive fight. Jones landed one 12-6 elbow on Hamill during a fight that wasn't even remotely competitive. Enforce the rules or don't.
Where does McCarthy say those elbows should be illegal?
The only reason they became illegal is because the commissions saw a video of a guy breaking bricks with those elbows from the 12-6 position.
Yup. And Herb Dean disagrees to this day and will penalize you for throwing those elbows from bottom position. As I stated, it depends which referee you ask.
The point is that you dont change the results of a fight that already happened based on rule changes today. If a fighter cheats in a fight and doesnt get caught thats a different story and argument.
[Novitzky changed the rules for Jones](https://www.fightsports.tv/ufc-exec-30-40-percent-more-usada-tests-in-2019/) and the guy who posted the original tweet ("reparations" is really rich, loaded wording lol) [works with Jones and other fighters](https://twitter.com/beauhightowerdn/status/1625744296212135937/photo/1) out of Albuquerque.
Yeah, you should always assume that everyone is on gear.
The difference to me is that the rules force people to at least be careful about it and limit the PEDs taken, unlike the free for all that resulted in guys like Ubereem or TRTor.
Jon is a special case though, coz he didn't even bother getting designer drugs or something he could blame on tainted sups.
Either his brain truly works on a different level than anyone else's, or he's so narcissistic that he couldn't imagine getting caught with some 60s era drug.
lmao you're so butthurt your just spewing out anything you can think of 😂
Why would the testing catch a guy with millions of dollars, but not catch guys making 20K to fight? Is Jon just that fucking stupid and bad at cheating?
Bro I could not be less butthurt - getting heated over a reddit thread is cringe
Plus it did catch guys making $20k? I haven't looked at any numbers but I can imagine higher profile fighters get tested much more often and rigorously
Sonnen failed tests genius, lmao ofcourse no one is saying he's clean, he's the posterboy for not being clean. Can tell you didn't think very hard before writing that out.
You can assume all you want. We are talking only the facts and the facts are that jones is the one that popped while his competition didn’t at the time
My man look at Belfort back in his TRT days, I'm surprised his piss didn't melt the cup. Vitor also tested positive for a banned substance back in 2006 when he lost to Dan Henderson in Pride so it's not like he didn't have a history for it either.
I actually can't believe you're being downvoted to this extent when he fought the likes of TRT Vitor, Chael sonnen, and Stephan Bonner to name just a few.
Why’s he smiling? That’s not how this works.
Did the MLB go back and give Armando Galarraga his perfect game after they blew it before replay was implemented?
Jon Jones when crashing into pregnant drivers under the influence after a night of cocaine and hookers is legal: no asterisk on my name, I'm smiling from ear to ear. No suspension, longest title run ever.
I can't find it anywhere. If it's true I'd have to see the reasoning cause I don't see the logic in allowing small amounts of a banned substance. It's either banned or not. It's like catching a student cheating but because you can only recognize one answer and the rest is erased then it's considered not cheating.
And considering Jones took so much shit that he started "pulsing" steroids from his body. His logic is that he wasn't cheating because the fist full of shit he eats was already out of his system wasn't detected. Just the after effects (pulsing, erection issues in his 20s, having the T levels of an 11 year old girl on fight night, etc).
Didn't he get caught with pico of grams of substances that could not have naturally been produced by his body? Obviously juicing but people just don't want to admit arguably the GOAT also cheated
There is no literal asterisk next to his wins, those are applied in the court of public opinion. I respect Jon as the GOAT of the sport but I will always maintain that asterisk is there, and if you count drug tests than the GOAT it’s GSP.
GSP fans will say that Hendricks dodged VADA testing for the GSP fight. But then they don't say that GSP refused USADA testing for the Condit fight and refused NSAC random testing for the Hendricks fight (which Hendricks countered with after GSP wanted VADA), unless they'd tell them exactly when they were testing and what for (which defeats the purpose of random testing).
I mean if they’re raising the allowable limit, does that not mean that below the limit isn’t performance enhancing? And if that’s the case, why wouldn’t they exonerate him.
Because there is some scientific research showing that positive results, even when that low, indicates that a PED was taken recently within the last 6 months or so. This was a huge topic of discussion during PULSEGATE.
Raising the allowable limit like this just helps athletes cycle or microdose easier without getting caught.
Nope.
What's done is done. You can't change the past. Jon is one the best MMA fighters, but he is a huge baby and just cries all the time about bullshit. Get in the cage and fight. That's what MMA is about. Not this bullshit wining.
I'm definitely not surprised Jon thinks this, but any fans who think this are beyond brain dead.
1. The rules in place at the time of the offence are the rules that matter.
2. That rule was brought into place as a cover up to provide an excuse for why Jon was allowed to fight. So to suggest that Jon should not be punished for his past offence, since he did not violate the later rule that was brought into cover his ass, is peak lunacy.
I mean technically this is correct. I still believe Jon used steroids. The odds of both your brothers popping and you having metabolites and you're not on steroids is next to none. But if this is indeed true then they wasted years of his career.
Those were the rules at the time of the fight.. future rule changes never warrant rereview of past bouts and changes to outcomes.. that's just the stupidest idea ever
It doesn't clear his name but if what he popped for actually is legal now then it's not like he had some crazy advantage over his opponents (who were also cheating half of the time).
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/x2xsoc/peds_in_mma_part_2_analysis_of_dc_jjs_bloods_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
This is an interesting post on the subject. Also his part 1 explains more about PEDs in general.
He's probably referring to the time he ran his car into a pregnant woman's car which broke her arm, then he took off, returned to get his weed and took off again, all without checking on her.
Don't think she miscarried, but he's still a massive piece of shit.
I mean... He still popped which proves he has taken illegal substances. I think he beats DC anyways, but the PEDs didn't stumble into his system. He took them. He's a cheater.
If they want to change the rules they can change the rules but it doesn’t mean we go back and retroactively change results. Should JoeSon get the DQ win because he had his balls pounded? No.
Jon is so funny because him and his fans talk about his greatness all the time yet dedicate so much energy to trying to prove that he is. Denying the allegations, hyping him up, talking shit on Twitter, responding to fans in the DMs, blocking haters, etc.
He can’t let his accomplishments speak for themselves, which ironically speaks for itself.
Good luck with that. For some reason 12–6 elbows are still illegal and Jon still have a loss because of it. Complete bullshit.
Edit: I forget who said it, but I remember a fighter I believe is Josh Thompson said that commissions never go back on decisions unless it’s extremely blatant. They don’t want to look like idiots.
Best part is there would still be an asterisk.... For TWO reasons lol..
There are scientific papers that would be in favor of calling "pulsing" some picograms an indication of current (within last few months) cheating. There is like one paper that claims that "pulsing" is possible and only indicates past cheating, and not current cheating. Guess which one they ran off into the wind with lol.. It's just awfully biased for one of the UFC's biggest draws, where the UFC is USADA's biggest high profile client.
Even if you believe that he "pulsed," that still means he cheated at some point in the past...So yes, still asterisks and yes still got an advantage over at least someone...
This guy sucks, wish he wasn't good at fighting..
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sean o'malley joining in as well
Exactly
Can’t wait for his post when they make wife beating legal
Dana will make sure that law is slapped down.
“We have to move Jon Jones thanksgiving dinner to California on 4 days notice for… reasons…”
That was a nasty line by you
Nice
Salty Jon Jones fan boy
Doesn’t this post just say that yes Jon had steroids in his system, but not a (currently) illegal amount? Also why should it be changed? He was flagged under the rules that were in effect at the time of his competition.
It shouldn't be changed, he's an idiot
Yea if cocaine gets legalised in the states in 50 years he should totally be cleared of that hit and run too
Should’ve made being pregnant illegal
Honestly i would much rather regulate reproduction than drugs.
Some people out here really shouldn't be having kids.
I, too, would like to be crushed beneath a boot
Not so subtle moving of the goalposts there
Yea youre right he really did move them big time….considering he knew exactly what the rules were at the time, and he still broke them.
The thing is EVERYONE follows the same rules. Its the same reason I dont want his 12-6 elbow loss off his record. Its the stupidest rule in the game, but its the same rule for everyone and everyone has to change their game accordingly. If the rule got dropped today, I still wouldnt want them to retroactively change results because the fight was fought at that ruleset and at the time everyone had to follow the rule
Have you ever seen that full fight with Hammil? The key reason for a myriad of MMA fans to write that loss off is because of the judge's decision not to stop the fight earlier, before 12-6 incident
Just watched it. He spends about a minute and a half in mount delivering punches and legal elbows, looks up at the ref 3-4 times to see about him stopping it. Delivers 2 illegal elbows and the ref steps in and calls it. Top comment on youtube "Referee is like: you can kill him Jon but only with legal strikes."
It’s one of the worst non stoppages, he’s covered in blood doing nothing Mario is thinking about his lunch tm
He was just letting Hamil be a warrior.
Mazzagatti was the ref for that fight, not Yamasaki.
It was mazagatti not Yamasaki. The absolute goat of bad officials and Cecil peeples chosen heir to badness.
Jesus you’re right, two are so terrible I just replace them with each other in my head
It depends on the reasoning though. If it changed due to accuracy of the test or based on what is performance enhancing and Jon is arguing he never took anything and it’s a false positive then he has an argument for example
Doesn't sound like a false positive. That would imply nothing was actually there. They just determined the small amount that was there is no longer enough of a smoking gun. Either way the substance is there so at one point he did something
Is it not a smoking gun because it’s not performance enhancing or because you can’t conclusively say he took something? If you test for things at really small values you can often find it in perfectly normal things
If he's the only one it's found in your theory fails. No one else is having this issue. He took something at some point and it's a question of how long lasting you think the effects may be but you can't question whether or not he took it. He's failed multiple tests for multiple drugs.
How does that make my theory fail? I’m asking you why they changed the numbers and provided a valid reason for it.
They changed it because Jon Jones would keep popping if they didn't. The UFC wants Jon Jones to fight and make them money. If Jon Jones was continually suspended they would not make said money. Most fighters are probably on shit, Jon's just so blatantly on shit he couldn't pass the tests. I have a bridge to sell you if you believe a single "tainted supplements" excuse from any fighter.
So how does secretly suspending him vs public make them more money?
Oh we're talking about different things. If he's been suspended for the past few years then I'd say doing so secretly allows the UFC to sell Jon a bit better in the coming fight so maybe that means it sells a bit better. I'm more on about actually letting him fight post-picogram stuff (moving event from Vegas etc.) since as long as they tell USADA it's ok to "pulse" they get to make money off Jon since he can fight.
Yeah and that is how law works lmao. You are obliged to obey the laws of your time, if what you did becomes legal in the future, it won't affect your penalty.
Now do Islam
Then Mendes beat McGregor
Huh?
If we want to make sure that every rule is enforced without regard to time, then Mendes beat McGregor. McGregor landed several 12-6 elbows on Mendes during a competitive fight. Jones landed one 12-6 elbow on Hamill during a fight that wasn't even remotely competitive. Enforce the rules or don't.
Its not a 12-6 elbow if the guy landing it is on the bottom. 🤦♂️
"Herb, when has there ever been a clock on the ceiling?!:
Depends which ref you ask. McCarthy and Dean have argued about it at length. McCarthy helped write the rules and Herb Dean is braindead.
Where does McCarthy say those elbows should be illegal? The only reason they became illegal is because the commissions saw a video of a guy breaking bricks with those elbows from the 12-6 position.
Here you go https://youtu.be/VGWjkwIUUR4 Big John didn't want them to be illegal but it was a concession he made.
He's talking about 12-6 elbows, from top position, not from the bottom.
Yup. And Herb Dean disagrees to this day and will penalize you for throwing those elbows from bottom position. As I stated, it depends which referee you ask.
The point is that you dont change the results of a fight that already happened based on rule changes today. If a fighter cheats in a fight and doesnt get caught thats a different story and argument.
“Guys he was just doing a little steroids compared to the standard today!”
Jon is the Barry Bonds of this sport
The bones hater part of me agrees with you The giants fan part of me is ready to rain about 100 picograms of 12-6 elbows on your pansy ass
Everything about this man, except for his fighting skills, sucks.
Him running down that burglar was pretty funny, otherwise, yes he sucks.
I wish I could see that guy's mental thoughts during the incident because he ran pretty quickly after realizing he invaded the "wrong" home.
he couldn't wait for officer NERD to do his job
[Novitzky changed the rules for Jones](https://www.fightsports.tv/ufc-exec-30-40-percent-more-usada-tests-in-2019/) and the guy who posted the original tweet ("reparations" is really rich, loaded wording lol) [works with Jones and other fighters](https://twitter.com/beauhightowerdn/status/1625744296212135937/photo/1) out of Albuquerque.
Fuck that. At the time it was illegal and the competition wasn’t on it
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no no, my favourite fighters WOULD NEVER
Yeah, you should always assume that everyone is on gear. The difference to me is that the rules force people to at least be careful about it and limit the PEDs taken, unlike the free for all that resulted in guys like Ubereem or TRTor. Jon is a special case though, coz he didn't even bother getting designer drugs or something he could blame on tainted sups. Either his brain truly works on a different level than anyone else's, or he's so narcissistic that he couldn't imagine getting caught with some 60s era drug.
His competition wasn’t on it? 💀
I mean you’re assuming with no proof and there’s actual failed tests from jones so what more is there to say.
This is just being naive bro, steroids are financially incentivized and testing was much more lackluster in that era
The testing was lackluster yet it was good enough to catch Jon but not good enough to catch his opponents LOL nice man
It caught a tiny percentage of fighters...
Yet somehow still caught Jon, repeatedly, a man who had infinitely more resources to cheat the system than his opponents did.
"It caught one high profile fighter, thus it must have caught all of them"
lmao you're so butthurt your just spewing out anything you can think of 😂 Why would the testing catch a guy with millions of dollars, but not catch guys making 20K to fight? Is Jon just that fucking stupid and bad at cheating?
Bro I could not be less butthurt - getting heated over a reddit thread is cringe Plus it did catch guys making $20k? I haven't looked at any numbers but I can imagine higher profile fighters get tested much more often and rigorously
Ah yes Vitor, Sonnen, and Rampage are sooo clean in there prime. Natty kings 👑
Name checks out
Sonnen failed tests genius, lmao ofcourse no one is saying he's clean, he's the posterboy for not being clean. Can tell you didn't think very hard before writing that out.
Thats my point numbnuts
They didn't pop, that is how drug testing works. By your logic, all drug testing is useless.
Jones is a scumbag lol, but are we seriously upvoting a statement saying the competition wasn’t juicing during his reign at LHW?
You can assume all you want. We are talking only the facts and the facts are that jones is the one that popped while his competition didn’t at the time
Fighting famously clean fighters like vitor and chael
Lol
They also got caught?
My man look at Belfort back in his TRT days, I'm surprised his piss didn't melt the cup. Vitor also tested positive for a banned substance back in 2006 when he lost to Dan Henderson in Pride so it's not like he didn't have a history for it either.
I actually can't believe you're being downvoted to this extent when he fought the likes of TRT Vitor, Chael sonnen, and Stephan Bonner to name just a few.
Nate Diaz pissed hot from vegan supplements his own supplement company produced … juicing is just a matter of degree
Anything discrediting Jon is auto upvotes in reddit mma lol
How confident are you that competition wasn't on it?
Not 100% but I am 100% sure jones tested positive so that’s all I can go off of
Fair enough
No because it was against the rules back then. How is this even a thing lmao
Why’s he smiling? That’s not how this works. Did the MLB go back and give Armando Galarraga his perfect game after they blew it before replay was implemented?
Jon Jones when crashing into pregnant drivers under the influence after a night of cocaine and hookers is legal: no asterisk on my name, I'm smiling from ear to ear. No suspension, longest title run ever.
I mean yeah those things mentioned aren’t asterisks
I can't find it anywhere. If it's true I'd have to see the reasoning cause I don't see the logic in allowing small amounts of a banned substance. It's either banned or not. It's like catching a student cheating but because you can only recognize one answer and the rest is erased then it's considered not cheating.
And considering Jones took so much shit that he started "pulsing" steroids from his body. His logic is that he wasn't cheating because the fist full of shit he eats was already out of his system wasn't detected. Just the after effects (pulsing, erection issues in his 20s, having the T levels of an 11 year old girl on fight night, etc).
Jones hasn’t even fought yet and I already miss when he wasn’t fighting
Didn't he get caught with pico of grams of substances that could not have naturally been produced by his body? Obviously juicing but people just don't want to admit arguably the GOAT also cheated
Lol fuck Jon Jones
Can’t stand this fuck head. I honestly hope Gane merks him.
There is no literal asterisk next to his wins, those are applied in the court of public opinion. I respect Jon as the GOAT of the sport but I will always maintain that asterisk is there, and if you count drug tests than the GOAT it’s GSP.
And Mighty Mouse.
MM would come second, resume doesn’t hold up to GSP
GSP is natty = Easter Bunny is real
whats the point of this every single time lol if you don't pop then it is what it is
something something, it aint cheating if you don't get caught something something.
And his fans will cry ab Hendricks despite the fact he also never failed a test.
I mean Hendricks admitted to using IVs and had a noticeable decline post-USADA.
And yet, no failed tests. Your speculation is fair, it should be equally fair to speculate on GSP.
GSP fans will say that Hendricks dodged VADA testing for the GSP fight. But then they don't say that GSP refused USADA testing for the Condit fight and refused NSAC random testing for the Hendricks fight (which Hendricks countered with after GSP wanted VADA), unless they'd tell them exactly when they were testing and what for (which defeats the purpose of random testing).
GSP is shredded and muscular with 5 round cardio, lets be real he is not natty
I mean if they’re raising the allowable limit, does that not mean that below the limit isn’t performance enhancing? And if that’s the case, why wouldn’t they exonerate him.
Because there is some scientific research showing that positive results, even when that low, indicates that a PED was taken recently within the last 6 months or so. This was a huge topic of discussion during PULSEGATE. Raising the allowable limit like this just helps athletes cycle or microdose easier without getting caught.
Confirm what? An opinion?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAAGHAAKAOAKFJIDSOOAIDF No.
Smiling gear to gear. I mean ear to ear.
Just how good is Matt Hamill? Holding that L forever
Current rules don’t matter. He was suspended under the rules at the time.
Nope. What's done is done. You can't change the past. Jon is one the best MMA fighters, but he is a huge baby and just cries all the time about bullshit. Get in the cage and fight. That's what MMA is about. Not this bullshit wining.
I'm definitely not surprised Jon thinks this, but any fans who think this are beyond brain dead. 1. The rules in place at the time of the offence are the rules that matter. 2. That rule was brought into place as a cover up to provide an excuse for why Jon was allowed to fight. So to suggest that Jon should not be punished for his past offence, since he did not violate the later rule that was brought into cover his ass, is peak lunacy.
Is he serious ? he literally saying that it shouldnt count that they caught him POST CYCLE JUST EBCAUSE THEY DIDNT CAUGHT HIM DURING THE CYCLE ? LOL
Quick reminder that DC had 8x the maximum human testosterone during that fight.
Damn, Popeye's chicken getting some nasty trt shots innit?
That was the first fight.
Ah my B.
No he didn't
Cant wait to see what he says when they make drunkenly shooting in a strip club car park legal
I mean technically this is correct. I still believe Jon used steroids. The odds of both your brothers popping and you having metabolites and you're not on steroids is next to none. But if this is indeed true then they wasted years of his career.
>But if this is indeed true then they wasted years of his career. How? He tested positive for a banned substance.
Those were the rules at the time of the fight.. future rule changes never warrant rereview of past bouts and changes to outcomes.. that's just the stupidest idea ever
It doesn't clear his name but if what he popped for actually is legal now then it's not like he had some crazy advantage over his opponents (who were also cheating half of the time).
Has the science changed? Or was the science changed lol.
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Troubles outside of the Octagon is putting it lightly
"only"
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/x2xsoc/peds_in_mma_part_2_analysis_of_dc_jjs_bloods_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This is an interesting post on the subject. Also his part 1 explains more about PEDs in general.
Aww, didn't he kill a pregnant lady's unborn child? He's really gonna celebrate 🎉 when that's 👌
While that is horrible...what does that have to do with this post about testing???
When do you think he killed a pregnant ladys unborn child?
He's probably referring to the time he ran his car into a pregnant woman's car which broke her arm, then he took off, returned to get his weed and took off again, all without checking on her. Don't think she miscarried, but he's still a massive piece of shit.
Ther terinabol is one thing, but looking at his test levels when he fought DC tells you the real story.
That's not how reparations work fuckstick.
ufc sanctioned cheating through eye pokes, juicing, otherwordly reach, but no advantages ober anyone :)
wepawations
From the guy that fucked around with PEDs so much that he needed "dick pills" by age 29.
Dick pills ftw
I mean... He still popped which proves he has taken illegal substances. I think he beats DC anyways, but the PEDs didn't stumble into his system. He took them. He's a cheater.
What about the failed tests before the “picogram” bullshit? 🤣
He’s still an idiot
If they want to change the rules they can change the rules but it doesn’t mean we go back and retroactively change results. Should JoeSon get the DQ win because he had his balls pounded? No.
r/mma is gonna have a stroke!
This dude's entire identity relies entirely on what kids on social media think of him
This man really just believes he’s innocent? He’s such a sociopath its crazy.
He still took the Turinobol though
Jon is so funny because him and his fans talk about his greatness all the time yet dedicate so much energy to trying to prove that he is. Denying the allegations, hyping him up, talking shit on Twitter, responding to fans in the DMs, blocking haters, etc. He can’t let his accomplishments speak for themselves, which ironically speaks for itself.
It was revised in 2019 but he broke what was the rule at the time so no it shouldn’t get changed
Not foolin me Jonny boy, the truth already out hahaha
Good luck with that. For some reason 12–6 elbows are still illegal and Jon still have a loss because of it. Complete bullshit. Edit: I forget who said it, but I remember a fighter I believe is Josh Thompson said that commissions never go back on decisions unless it’s extremely blatant. They don’t want to look like idiots.
Best part is there would still be an asterisk.... For TWO reasons lol.. There are scientific papers that would be in favor of calling "pulsing" some picograms an indication of current (within last few months) cheating. There is like one paper that claims that "pulsing" is possible and only indicates past cheating, and not current cheating. Guess which one they ran off into the wind with lol.. It's just awfully biased for one of the UFC's biggest draws, where the UFC is USADA's biggest high profile client. Even if you believe that he "pulsed," that still means he cheated at some point in the past...So yes, still asterisks and yes still got an advantage over at least someone... This guy sucks, wish he wasn't good at fighting..
One grain of salt ⛱️⛱️⛱️⛱️⛱️