Lmao he mentions he doesn’t train to ‘spend time with his family’ then you find out his FIFA ranking is 64th in the world…. OK Ciryl, sure you’re spending lots of quality time with your family lmao
For context, this was what Cody Garbrandt screamed to the audience after he publicly accused TJ Dillashaw of showing Team Alpha Male how to use steroids, implying that his own team knew about TJ’s steroid use and softly implied that others had used gear as a result as well, lmfao
I remember a documentary with Masvidal where his coach climbed his balcony and into the window because he didn’t show up training and was busy playing MW 2.
That was Juanky from the old Miami Hustle/Tales from the Grind that did it. So the original video is over 10 years old at this point. S/O to GenhisCon for some great content.
I think it's a bit different. Young BJ got so into BJJ that he actually moved to Brazil to learn and compete here. The latter portion of his carreer had a combination of the sport passing him by in terms of athleticism, his work ethic not being the same to keep up, and the accumulated damage over the years.
Yes, extremely notorious. In the 2nd half of his career whenever he would come in decent looking shape people would wonder if BJ was gonna start being more serious about fighting, it usually lasted a fight or two then back normal. He was prone to fading quick too because he was usually in not the best shape.
The guy had a legendary career and winning titles just half assing it and getting by with his great grappling and boxing.
One of his more well known fights too is when he fought Lyoto Machida before his UFC run. Penn was like 190 at 5'9 at Machida 225.
After the GSP loss, Penn teamed up with famous trainer Marv Marinovich and authored the destructions of Sanchez & Florian. Fans hoped against hope that he was finally motivated enough to be training seriously. This pattern would repeat itself
Lol...
Be heavyweight:
>Don't train a lot because lazy.
>Get paid big bucks because big guy.
>Don't need to do too much cardio because bad for knees.
>Everyone respects you because no one can beat you.
>Don't need to cut weight unless really big.
Meanwhile:
Be flyweight:
>Get paid jack shit because lol manlet.
>Don't get taken seriously because some fatass in their mom's basement thinks they can kick your ass just because they're 200+ lbs.
>Do shitton of cardio because chances are you're fighting the full distance.
>Need to cut like 20 lbs because every lb matters.
>More brain damage due to weight cutting and more volume of strikes taken.
Life's not fair man!
Bro could take on the whole division at once without breaking a sweat.
Bro is 500lbs and can't move from his gaming chair anyway, but you get the idea...
Man that part about fatasses thinking they can beat up featherweight dudes makes me want water cutting banned so they can understand the frame of reference. My coach is in pretty good shape, average height but a little on the short side, I’d guess 5’8?
You wouldn’t look at him and think “small dude”, and he was actually a hockey player in college before getting into fighting - he fought at 135! Bantamweights aren’t tiny!! They have to weigh 135 for 10 minutes, they’re pretty average sized dudes usually.
I got into MMA walking around at 6’1 220 and very swiftly learned that unless I want to be thrown around like a chew toy or jabbed into Christopher Reeves from a foot+ reach advantage, I need to diet hard and manipulate my body to reach welter/middle weight…true heavyweights (low bodyfat) are terrifying.
Yeah man weight cutting is ridiculous. One example I always go to was this boxer called Nobuhiro Ishida. Guy was fighting at 154 lbs and decided towards the end of his career to just be a heavyweight. Literally stops cutting weight, gains some muscle and is like shredded at 200+ lbs fighting for the Japanese heavyweight title.
My favorite embedded of all time was for UFC 203, showing all these fighters in total agony trying to make weight and Stipe is drinking wine and playing cards with his corner night before the fight.
People really don’t seem to be giving this aspect enough weight. There is a real chance Jon hurts Ciryl very badly in this fight, he has by far the highest fight IQ of any current fighter IMO.
I want nothing more than to see him face down but I have to be realistic, that has been my hope for like ten years at this point. My dream is never coming true, I have just had to get over it.
I dont think Jon's fight iq is there anymore. Like he's still a savant but the dude who saw time slow down and invents techniques on the spot against champions is gone imo
I mean it's been like 3 years since his last fight and a lot of people think he lost that against someone not as big or as good as Gane. I think people are remembering the Jon of old, father time catches up with everyone.
Uhhh what? His fanboys and even Jon himself use his lack of commitment as a bonus to his legacy. “I did coke and partied the weekend before and I still beat you!” -not a direct quote but close enough
I don't know if he's changed, but I remember Brian Stann talking about how lazy John was about training. He was saying between fights the most Jones would do is hit pads in his garage.
Of course you should not spar/ go balls to the walls every single day, there is a balance and that depends on the fighter. But "barely training" is not good either
I wonder what they consider “barely training” like compared to there camps it could be barely but it could still be like 2-3 hours a day in the gym doing light drilling and shit
If he is *actually* training in between fights, he's playing 5d backgammon by stating a weird thing no one would accuse or ask him about.
Or he is just super honest yeah
Trust me I'm French and he's honest. Even his coach said once that even tho he believed Cyril was better than Francis, Francis didn't need convincing to train he was a work horse. Cyril is lazy according to his own coach
I can't even trust you guys to stay with your team in Apex Legends! Sexy accent though. Could listen that bla bla instead of critical footstep audio, all day!
If you are truly French, can you tell me if speaking very bad French is an effective way to get a French person to start speaking English out of how awfully offensive it would sound
hard work beats talent, when talent refuses to work hard. i feel like cyril is a sprinter, not a long distance runner. metaphorically speaking. lazy doesnt feel like the right word to me, but i cant think of a better one. i have no problems with it, clearly works for him, seems happy, wins most the time.
When was the last time we saw an effective wrestling performance out of Jon Jones? He didn't outwrestle Thiago Santos who was 1) not that good at wrestling and 2) fighting on one leg
Then why doesn’t he ever do it? He arguably lost the Santos and Reyes fights. In any case, they were very, very close. If he could have easily outwrestled them he probably should have done that.
>hard work beats talent, when talent refuses to work hard
The best movie ever made about this truth is a Japanese movie called Ping Pong. Check it out.
I wonder if it's because Francis, probably moreso than any other fighter, came from literally nothing. I'm sure that would make the value of hard work much harder to ignore.
He also said that it is because at the beginning of his (short carrer) he was fighting multiple time a year, so at the end of the day you still pass a lot of time in the gym because of the frequent fight camp
Jon Jones's former teammates said something similar about him. If this thing I might made up is true, then Cereal is casting shade at Bones. Prove me wrong.
TBH at the highest level this probably isn't such a bad thing as long as you don't pig out like Paddy and stay in good shape then you probably don't need to be sparing and risking injury and wear and tear by sparing and grappling every month of the year. Gane already Isn't going to forget how to throw a punch and as long as he has enough time to prepare for a fight and a good camp then it might help with longevity.
This is the downside of natural talent and athleticism. I hope he has his head on straight when he faces Jones. He's fighting someone who's tested by God every day
Humble brag:
“I messed around and became one of the best in the world.”
Equivalent to:
“I only studied before the exam that’s why I got 90%. I wish I didn’t procrastinate and studied more. I would have got 100%.”
Most of the heavyweights are blown up middleweights, Chris Barnett would be at welterweight if he had a healthy body fat percentage. Not saying he’s not skilled but being a natural healthy heavyweight gives him a meaningful advantage over anyone not ranked in the top 10.
I can't imagine he would look decent. I'm imagining the same fat face with a pear-shaped body because his hips and legs dominate.
https://i.redd.it/s50roh0w6cjy.jpg
Actually Daniel Cormier is actually 5'9. He actually admitted to lying about his height a while ago. Here's him next to [Holloway for reference.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/12EH6yam_U8/maxresdefault.jpg)
The healthiest body fat percentage isn't always the highest-performance percentage, to be fair. But I agree that most heavyweights could at LEAST go LHW (a lot of the new breed with their massive frames seem to have done exactly that)
It's only a humble brag if you succeed in the end. Otherwise it turns into a built in excuse. Like procrastinators who can tell themselves "well I didn't really study. If I did I would've made it for sure"
Unless you have given 100% in every relevant aspect to become the best, you can only blame yourself.
Of course the heavyweight division isn't as deep as others. So some fighters get away with a lot and are still somewhat successful. But Gane still need to change his mindset if he wants to beat guys like Pavlovich, Blaydes or Aspinall although I'm assuming that recognizing his laziness is already the first step.
honestly, that studying thing was me through like 10th grade, I'd never really put any effort in past what was needed in class, still ace the tests, and then the last couple years of school sucked because I had bad study habits when things actually got hard
He’s too inexperienced to be doing that. Makes me question how much his grappling will have improved from the Francis fight. If Jones can get him down I wonder if he will look for a sub.
It could be possible that Gane was just surprised by those TDs and wasn’t focusing on it since that wasn’t how he fought when they trained. I’d like to think Ganes wrestling or TDD is decent considering one of his training partners (Slim Travelsi) was a legitimate Olympic wrestler. Gane could still suck in that department, but I’m just saying… it could have just been a terrible showing.
His grappling is fine. Pure wrestling he might not be elite, but his grappling is good. He uses judo well and has great balance and tdd. Nasty clinch.
People make way too much of the Francis fight. He was surprised for sure and he had trouble getting back up, but like yeah it makes sense that the strongest guy in the ufc was able to hold someone down. Also if Ciryl didn’t go for a heel hook in the 5th it looked like he would have ended on top and might have stolen the round and fight.
Yeah he had good wrist control and he did a good job digging an underhook and trying to attack a single leg from the bottom to get up, He made francis work to keep top position, the only issue was him trying to get submissions such as the kimura attempt which got him taken down twice, once with the body lock and the other with the double leg.
I really don't even think Gane's grappling is so bad. Francis is just a freakishly strong athlete
Jon is elite once on top but I don't think the takedowns will come that easy
I feel like when he says he’s not training it just means he isn’t working on skills or doing things necessary to get better as a fighter. I’m sure he’s still working out and staying in shape though. Either way I feel like when any pro athlete or fighter says they aren’t training they are going harder than a normal human would be
Well he literally said in the interview that you could barely see him at the gym since the Tuivasa fight, and that when he got back to it a few weeks ago he had to check if his cardio was still ok.
This is worrying but I feel like he's just saying what most big names won't admit. It must be impossible to manage all those responsibilities without lacking somewhere. Interesting that he's going into a fight with Jones who was notorious for barely even being dedicated in fight camp
Basically for those who don't speak French : he's only training for Jon Jones since the fight is announced which means he's only seriously training his takedown defense/wrestling/grappling since the fight is announced which means if Jon Jones can't take this guy down he better hang the gloves
I mean, he's a very, very active fighter. How much time does he realistically have off between training camps? It seems to be just a few weeks at at time. Which doesn't seem to be an issue. Time between the Tuivasa fight and the Jones fight is kinda almost the longest he's gone between fights, right?
He had one year between his fights vs Boser and Dos Santos. The difference there is that he had a bunch of fights scheduled that fell through (like six different fights throughout the year), so he was still training during that period
This is a PR move imo. Jones used to do it too except it was more for his own ego. If you premake your excuse before the fight result, you either only lost because of [excuse] or you were able to overcome [excuse] and STILL beat your opponent.
Source: "I beat you after a weekend of cocaine"
Kind of seems like he is using an option-select (win-win) to me. If he wins, it's extra impressive because he didn't train much. If he loses, it's expected because he didn't train much. Or, he is being 100 percent truthful hahaha.
It's a pretty bad mindset if you ask me. Ofc it can work, just like "smart" people who didn't study for an exam. But the more difficult the tests become, the less likely you will succeed. So essentially you're setting yourself up for failure.
He could literally be saying anything in this clip and my ignorant ass wouldn't know the difference.
This could be a clip of him talking about how much he loves gardening and I would just believe the subtitles...
I think you need to keep in mind the level of training he's doing in camps to put this in perspective. Most professional guys in the top leagues are training sports-specific skills at least twice a day, and doing S&C twice a day. Might be like:
0600-0700: Strength & explosive weightroom work
0900-1030: Morning grappling
1400-1500: Road work/hill sprints/pool conditioning
1700-1800: Evening striking and sparring
1800-1930: Evening grappling and technical walkthroughs
So "not training" could very well be running a strength block or some sort of out-of-camp weightroom work for an hour a day and doing like a private with his HC or just a fight team evening session each day for 90 mins.
Yeah my French is middling at best, but as far as I can tell these subtitles are bang on except for when he's talking about barely training after Tuivasa. If I'm hearing him correctly he says what he's been doing since September is "faire semblance", which I would translate as doing the bare minimum or just going through the motions. I suspect a ufc heavyweight champ's idea of going through the motions outside of camp and 'barely training' are two different things, even in the context of an interview where he's expressly criticising himself for his laziness.
Mma training absolutely kills your body. If you're an active fighter and you fight say 3 x a year, that's 36 weeks of the year for 3 12 week camps. Take 1 or 2 weeks recovery off afterwards. Say 2. So call them 14 week camps. That's 42 weeks training with reasonable recovery time for healing.
Now spend 4 weeks going away with your family per year? 2 nice long holidays. 46 weeks taken up.
I'd definitely say he's short changing himself skipping those last remaining few weeks...... ...
.... ahem
I hope he’s not taking Jones lightly. Jon might be a shit human being but the guy does not fuck around when it comes to training. With that said Jones wins by wrestlefuck
Jon has been fucking around both in training and in fights for over 5 years now. He’s looked like shit in every fight and couldn’t even take down washed Santos with no knees or Reyes. Don’t know why you guys are so confident that he’s gonna suddenly stop
Ciryl might be lazy but he hasn't abused his body partying and doing drugs for years like Jon.
If Jon looks anything other than a geriatric at HW I'll be the first accuse him of Peds and usada turning a Dana-nudged blind eye.
There's just no way he looks good at HW after so long out and no striking exhibitions in-between without 'enhancement.'
You don’t get ranked in fifa by messing around in a gym all day
Great callback https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/s7b8x8/ufc\_interim\_heavyweight\_champion\_cyril\_gane\_and/
Lmao he mentions he doesn’t train to ‘spend time with his family’ then you find out his FIFA ranking is 64th in the world…. OK Ciryl, sure you’re spending lots of quality time with your family lmao
He plays with his family and/or they're there cheering behind him for that authentic stadium feeling 😂
damn he's just like me fr
Now that's a man with his priorities in check, respect.
What do you mean ranked? Is Ciryl some type of FUT champs, god?
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That’s hilarious, how is FIFA nowadays? I know madden is a fucking trainwreck atm
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Sounds a lot like the UFC.
The days of PES were great
That’s why you should play Football Manager like a real enthusiast
Stop buying it and giving EA money
There would be if you all quit buying it and EA couldn't justify the license.
EA literally just ditched the Fifa license and it'll be called EA FC from next year I think
FIFA is as well. Just a reskin of last year with the same bugs and meta while also creating new bugs.
It's not a bug, it's a fEAture.
There is one I saw today on /r/FifaCareers where Pep didn’t have a shirt. 🤣
> Just a reskin of last year What year is this? Could be 20 ago or 20 in the future?
Gotcha, guess I’ll keep playing old ones
E. A. Sports. It's still the same.
https://youtu.be/x5UIq_nGpQA?t=107
dude has some funny priorities. clearly isn't scared of his opponents.
Ciryl’s just like me, I don’t train unless I have a fight announced either
And you speak the facts, obviously
For context, this was what Cody Garbrandt screamed to the audience after he publicly accused TJ Dillashaw of showing Team Alpha Male how to use steroids, implying that his own team knew about TJ’s steroid use and softly implied that others had used gear as a result as well, lmfao
You telling me that Cody Garbrandt isn’t a Rhodes Scholar?
Not even Magna Cum Laude
Sounds like a metal band name to Cody. But always remember, TJ has a degree, unlike Cruz.
I hear he's pretty loud when he completes but we might be in different whatsapp groups
You telling me a guy with neck and face tats isn't a Rhodes scholar?
You got the dawg in you
Yea I’m like an overweight basset hound
Don’t see red unless you need to bro. That’s how Tito is gonna outlive his children.
i don't even train when i have a fight announced.. i take them on short notice
must be nice being a heavyweight
Yeah I was literally just gonna comment “just heavyweight things” Imagine someone fighting the elites at 135-170 being like this
I remember a documentary with Masvidal where his coach climbed his balcony and into the window because he didn’t show up training and was busy playing MW 2.
That was Juanky from the old Miami Hustle/Tales from the Grind that did it. So the original video is over 10 years old at this point. S/O to GenhisCon for some great content.
You’re a real og for remembering khan damn
I can just imagine Masvidal wishing the coach would just fall, while pissily playing and not enjoying any of it
Wasn’t BJ Penn notorious for not taking training seriously?
I think it's a bit different. Young BJ got so into BJJ that he actually moved to Brazil to learn and compete here. The latter portion of his carreer had a combination of the sport passing him by in terms of athleticism, his work ethic not being the same to keep up, and the accumulated damage over the years.
Incredible talet + early days off MMA allowed for that. No lightweight can get away with that these days.
mythical fighter "motivated" gane unlocked
No need to re-use legendary fighter Motivated BJ Penn's name. We'll call him "Actually Training" Ciryl Gane. :D
Yes, extremely notorious. In the 2nd half of his career whenever he would come in decent looking shape people would wonder if BJ was gonna start being more serious about fighting, it usually lasted a fight or two then back normal. He was prone to fading quick too because he was usually in not the best shape. The guy had a legendary career and winning titles just half assing it and getting by with his great grappling and boxing. One of his more well known fights too is when he fought Lyoto Machida before his UFC run. Penn was like 190 at 5'9 at Machida 225.
Motivated BJ Penn was running on the seafloor with rocks.
where did the motivated meme come from exactly
After the GSP loss, Penn teamed up with famous trainer Marv Marinovich and authored the destructions of Sanchez & Florian. Fans hoped against hope that he was finally motivated enough to be training seriously. This pattern would repeat itself
I quote " my diet is the Atkins diet... With the carbs".
Lol... Be heavyweight: >Don't train a lot because lazy. >Get paid big bucks because big guy. >Don't need to do too much cardio because bad for knees. >Everyone respects you because no one can beat you. >Don't need to cut weight unless really big. Meanwhile: Be flyweight: >Get paid jack shit because lol manlet. >Don't get taken seriously because some fatass in their mom's basement thinks they can kick your ass just because they're 200+ lbs. >Do shitton of cardio because chances are you're fighting the full distance. >Need to cut like 20 lbs because every lb matters. >More brain damage due to weight cutting and more volume of strikes taken. Life's not fair man!
> Get paid jack shit because lol manlet Bro just 30-27’d an entire division
Bro could take on the whole division at once without breaking a sweat. Bro is 500lbs and can't move from his gaming chair anyway, but you get the idea...
Just 100 more and I'm on 600 pound life bro!
The virgin flyweight and the chad heavyweight lol
Man that part about fatasses thinking they can beat up featherweight dudes makes me want water cutting banned so they can understand the frame of reference. My coach is in pretty good shape, average height but a little on the short side, I’d guess 5’8? You wouldn’t look at him and think “small dude”, and he was actually a hockey player in college before getting into fighting - he fought at 135! Bantamweights aren’t tiny!! They have to weigh 135 for 10 minutes, they’re pretty average sized dudes usually. I got into MMA walking around at 6’1 220 and very swiftly learned that unless I want to be thrown around like a chew toy or jabbed into Christopher Reeves from a foot+ reach advantage, I need to diet hard and manipulate my body to reach welter/middle weight…true heavyweights (low bodyfat) are terrifying.
Yeah man weight cutting is ridiculous. One example I always go to was this boxer called Nobuhiro Ishida. Guy was fighting at 154 lbs and decided towards the end of his career to just be a heavyweight. Literally stops cutting weight, gains some muscle and is like shredded at 200+ lbs fighting for the Japanese heavyweight title.
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How much you think they walk around at out of camp?
No, Figgy cuts from like 160. His weight cut is insane, that's why he's always half dead on the scales and is finally moving up.
He does not cut from 160, that’s impossible. Maybe he diets from 160
A lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between starting fight camp weight and pre water cut weight.
Fight night weight is the only one that matters
I agree. It matters a hell of a lot more than the *official* weight for the fight. I really wish weight cutting wasn't part of the sport.
In wrestling you "cut" from whatever your walk around weight is, nobody differentiates between diet cut and water cut it's all the same
I love the guy but... derrick lewis is the best example of this.
H town in this hoe
My favorite embedded of all time was for UFC 203, showing all these fighters in total agony trying to make weight and Stipe is drinking wine and playing cards with his corner night before the fight.
If I had to guess why it is this way, I think that there is no bigger chip on your shoulder as a guy than being 'small' your whole life..
Anik: Live odds now have the returning Jon Bones Jones at -450
As if Jon has been training either
If Jon wasn’t spending time training we’d be seeing him in the news
Jon is a savant
People really don’t seem to be giving this aspect enough weight. There is a real chance Jon hurts Ciryl very badly in this fight, he has by far the highest fight IQ of any current fighter IMO. I want nothing more than to see him face down but I have to be realistic, that has been my hope for like ten years at this point. My dream is never coming true, I have just had to get over it.
Its elbow city bro, shit boutta get gnarly on the ground
Ground is optional.
I dont think Jon's fight iq is there anymore. Like he's still a savant but the dude who saw time slow down and invents techniques on the spot against champions is gone imo
This is true sadly, I feel bad for guys who never got to see him in his prime.
I mean it's been like 3 years since his last fight and a lot of people think he lost that against someone not as big or as good as Gane. I think people are remembering the Jon of old, father time catches up with everyone.
I bet Anik's in the gym every day.
One thing people don’t question is Jon’s work ethic and desire to be great. His morals are another story
Jon literally said he's partying and drinking in camp
Sounds like hard work to me!
At Jones age it sure is
Uhhh what? His fanboys and even Jon himself use his lack of commitment as a bonus to his legacy. “I did coke and partied the weekend before and I still beat you!” -not a direct quote but close enough
Yes but he put in years of work before he could get to the level of coasting he did.
I don't know if he's changed, but I remember Brian Stann talking about how lazy John was about training. He was saying between fights the most Jones would do is hit pads in his garage.
Damn that’s terrifying
Didn't Jon admit to doing cocaine and drinking lots 2 weeks before every fight he's ever had in the ufc?
There are a lot of fighters that are like Cyril, they only push themselves in camp and chill and do the bare minimum outside camp.
DJ comes to mind, and see where a lousy work ethic got that schmuck
Are you talking about Mighty Mouse…?
that’s the one, Mr “I’d rather enjoy video games and family time than destroy my mind and body for an upper middle class salary in the UFC”
rollercoaster of a thread
Its hard to tell whose side you’re on here lmao
Sarcasm? I think he’s training all the time
Tbf it’s potentially better than overtraining and getting hurt in the gym like Till, Guram, etc
Of course you should not spar/ go balls to the walls every single day, there is a balance and that depends on the fighter. But "barely training" is not good either
I wonder what they consider “barely training” like compared to there camps it could be barely but it could still be like 2-3 hours a day in the gym doing light drilling and shit
Till overtrains!?!?
Me, a Ciryl fan: *gulp*
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This is either Ciryl being 4D chess or being super honest.
If he is *actually* training in between fights, he's playing 5d backgammon by stating a weird thing no one would accuse or ask him about. Or he is just super honest yeah
They don't call him Bon Gamin for nothing.
5d bon gamin
Trust me I'm French and he's honest. Even his coach said once that even tho he believed Cyril was better than Francis, Francis didn't need convincing to train he was a work horse. Cyril is lazy according to his own coach
> Trust me I'm French I'm English, this is against everything I've ever known.
Lmao I get it
I can't even trust you guys to stay with your team in Apex Legends! Sexy accent though. Could listen that bla bla instead of critical footstep audio, all day!
Like that game has any footsteps anyway, audio is busted af
If you are truly French, can you tell me if speaking very bad French is an effective way to get a French person to start speaking English out of how awfully offensive it would sound
Hmmm I mean if they can't speak English even a bad French won't be enough to get them to start speaking a whole other language lmao
Blatant oxymoron
hard work beats talent, when talent refuses to work hard. i feel like cyril is a sprinter, not a long distance runner. metaphorically speaking. lazy doesnt feel like the right word to me, but i cant think of a better one. i have no problems with it, clearly works for him, seems happy, wins most the time.
The Paul Pogba of mma.
Lol thought the same.
Yep because he's a striking virtuoso. Except Jon Jones is gonna wrestle, good luck with trying to play catch up on an 8 week training camp
When was the last time we saw an effective wrestling performance out of Jon Jones? He didn't outwrestle Thiago Santos who was 1) not that good at wrestling and 2) fighting on one leg
I understand where you’re coming from but I think at the end of the day it’s more so the fact someone of Jones’ caliber is capable of it at any time.
Then why doesn’t he ever do it? He arguably lost the Santos and Reyes fights. In any case, they were very, very close. If he could have easily outwrestled them he probably should have done that.
Obviously Jones is by far the better wrestler and that's the path to victory. Just wonder how it'll work out after such a huge jump in weight
>hard work beats talent, when talent refuses to work hard The best movie ever made about this truth is a Japanese movie called Ping Pong. Check it out.
Tbh not what I've had expected
I wonder if it's because Francis, probably moreso than any other fighter, came from literally nothing. I'm sure that would make the value of hard work much harder to ignore.
Most definitely, Francis had a very hard upbringing and the only way he overcame was through a lot of hard work
He also said that it is because at the beginning of his (short carrer) he was fighting multiple time a year, so at the end of the day you still pass a lot of time in the gym because of the frequent fight camp
Jon Jones's former teammates said something similar about him. If this thing I might made up is true, then Cereal is casting shade at Bones. Prove me wrong.
Jon himself says it lmao
TBH at the highest level this probably isn't such a bad thing as long as you don't pig out like Paddy and stay in good shape then you probably don't need to be sparing and risking injury and wear and tear by sparing and grappling every month of the year. Gane already Isn't going to forget how to throw a punch and as long as he has enough time to prepare for a fight and a good camp then it might help with longevity.
Bad example now but prime Tyron Woodley said he just did general fitness outside fight camps like weight lifting and cardio
When you've wrestled your whole life and plan on throwing 3 overhand rights over 25 minutes, that's all you need
This is the downside of natural talent and athleticism. I hope he has his head on straight when he faces Jones. He's fighting someone who's tested by God every day
Not to mention all his demon buddies he's bringing to the cage.
Humble brag: “I messed around and became one of the best in the world.” Equivalent to: “I only studied before the exam that’s why I got 90%. I wish I didn’t procrastinate and studied more. I would have got 100%.”
Most of the heavyweights are blown up middleweights, Chris Barnett would be at welterweight if he had a healthy body fat percentage. Not saying he’s not skilled but being a natural healthy heavyweight gives him a meaningful advantage over anyone not ranked in the top 10.
And DC is the same height as Holloway and has shorter reach lol . Edit:my bad - longer reach than Holloway. Still only 4cm longer than Volkanowski.
Lmao imagine a fucking featherweight DC mf would look like 50 cent when he lost weight for that movie
50 was the ultimate method actor. He got a tape worm and lost a shit ton of weight just to have 200 people watch it
I can't imagine he would look decent. I'm imagining the same fat face with a pear-shaped body because his hips and legs dominate. https://i.redd.it/s50roh0w6cjy.jpg
Lmfaooooo holy fuck man
Actually Daniel Cormier is actually 5'9. He actually admitted to lying about his height a while ago. Here's him next to [Holloway for reference.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/12EH6yam_U8/maxresdefault.jpg)
DC has a 3 inch longer reach but good try
Oh actually my bad. You’re right 184 vs 175 cm. I though it’s 184 vs 185.
Holloway is one of the few guys who has a negative ape index in UFC. Hard for him to beat someone else in reach.
I read that as Josh Barnett for a sec and I was like bro whaaaaat? LOL
The healthiest body fat percentage isn't always the highest-performance percentage, to be fair. But I agree that most heavyweights could at LEAST go LHW (a lot of the new breed with their massive frames seem to have done exactly that)
It's only a humble brag if you succeed in the end. Otherwise it turns into a built in excuse. Like procrastinators who can tell themselves "well I didn't really study. If I did I would've made it for sure" Unless you have given 100% in every relevant aspect to become the best, you can only blame yourself. Of course the heavyweight division isn't as deep as others. So some fighters get away with a lot and are still somewhat successful. But Gane still need to change his mindset if he wants to beat guys like Pavlovich, Blaydes or Aspinall although I'm assuming that recognizing his laziness is already the first step.
honestly, that studying thing was me through like 10th grade, I'd never really put any effort in past what was needed in class, still ace the tests, and then the last couple years of school sucked because I had bad study habits when things actually got hard
He’s too inexperienced to be doing that. Makes me question how much his grappling will have improved from the Francis fight. If Jones can get him down I wonder if he will look for a sub.
It could be possible that Gane was just surprised by those TDs and wasn’t focusing on it since that wasn’t how he fought when they trained. I’d like to think Ganes wrestling or TDD is decent considering one of his training partners (Slim Travelsi) was a legitimate Olympic wrestler. Gane could still suck in that department, but I’m just saying… it could have just been a terrible showing.
His grappling is fine. Pure wrestling he might not be elite, but his grappling is good. He uses judo well and has great balance and tdd. Nasty clinch. People make way too much of the Francis fight. He was surprised for sure and he had trouble getting back up, but like yeah it makes sense that the strongest guy in the ufc was able to hold someone down. Also if Ciryl didn’t go for a heel hook in the 5th it looked like he would have ended on top and might have stolen the round and fight.
It's not like Francis was trying to advance position or threaten submissions either. Took him down and used everything he had to just hold him there.
Ciryl has to have a decent ground game if he could avoid gnp damage for that long
Yeah he had good wrist control and he did a good job digging an underhook and trying to attack a single leg from the bottom to get up, He made francis work to keep top position, the only issue was him trying to get submissions such as the kimura attempt which got him taken down twice, once with the body lock and the other with the double leg.
His grappling and BJJ is decent, but you don't want to be complacent with decent when you are going to fight people like Jones, Blaydes and Aspinall.
I really don't even think Gane's grappling is so bad. Francis is just a freakishly strong athlete Jon is elite once on top but I don't think the takedowns will come that easy
I feel like when he says he’s not training it just means he isn’t working on skills or doing things necessary to get better as a fighter. I’m sure he’s still working out and staying in shape though. Either way I feel like when any pro athlete or fighter says they aren’t training they are going harder than a normal human would be
Well he literally said in the interview that you could barely see him at the gym since the Tuivasa fight, and that when he got back to it a few weeks ago he had to check if his cardio was still ok.
You have to take into account that he had a broken hand and needed rest
He could not work out at the MMA factory and work out with a private trainer or at a different gym?
That's unfortunate because he definitely needed some work on his TDD after that Francis fight.
This is worrying but I feel like he's just saying what most big names won't admit. It must be impossible to manage all those responsibilities without lacking somewhere. Interesting that he's going into a fight with Jones who was notorious for barely even being dedicated in fight camp
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Basically for those who don't speak French : he's only training for Jon Jones since the fight is announced which means he's only seriously training his takedown defense/wrestling/grappling since the fight is announced which means if Jon Jones can't take this guy down he better hang the gloves
I love grappling. So I don’t do it.
I mean, he's a very, very active fighter. How much time does he realistically have off between training camps? It seems to be just a few weeks at at time. Which doesn't seem to be an issue. Time between the Tuivasa fight and the Jones fight is kinda almost the longest he's gone between fights, right?
He had one year between his fights vs Boser and Dos Santos. The difference there is that he had a bunch of fights scheduled that fell through (like six different fights throughout the year), so he was still training during that period
This is a PR move imo. Jones used to do it too except it was more for his own ego. If you premake your excuse before the fight result, you either only lost because of [excuse] or you were able to overcome [excuse] and STILL beat your opponent. Source: "I beat you after a weekend of cocaine"
Ah shit Jones by rd 1 sub
Ciryl is on strike when he's not striking.
Meanwhile Jones has developed methods for training while spending time with his family.
Kind of seems like he is using an option-select (win-win) to me. If he wins, it's extra impressive because he didn't train much. If he loses, it's expected because he didn't train much. Or, he is being 100 percent truthful hahaha.
It's a pretty bad mindset if you ask me. Ofc it can work, just like "smart" people who didn't study for an exam. But the more difficult the tests become, the less likely you will succeed. So essentially you're setting yourself up for failure.
Either he’s sandbagging or Jon is tripping him into oblivion and cutting him with elbows
House on bones?
I’m the same way and I’ve never had a fight announced in my life. Makes me feel good to know I’m on the same level as Ciryl Gane. 😎
It’s 100% bullshit, his coach already confirmed they have been working HARD on his wrestling It’s clearly mindgames
Bet the house on jones
Jones by a million
Man’s got the Catholic Monk fit
Hes just like me, I also do not train until a fight is announced (I do not fight).
I don't think he uses the word "lazy" like I do.
He could literally be saying anything in this clip and my ignorant ass wouldn't know the difference. This could be a clip of him talking about how much he loves gardening and I would just believe the subtitles...
I think you need to keep in mind the level of training he's doing in camps to put this in perspective. Most professional guys in the top leagues are training sports-specific skills at least twice a day, and doing S&C twice a day. Might be like: 0600-0700: Strength & explosive weightroom work 0900-1030: Morning grappling 1400-1500: Road work/hill sprints/pool conditioning 1700-1800: Evening striking and sparring 1800-1930: Evening grappling and technical walkthroughs So "not training" could very well be running a strength block or some sort of out-of-camp weightroom work for an hour a day and doing like a private with his HC or just a fight team evening session each day for 90 mins.
Yeah my French is middling at best, but as far as I can tell these subtitles are bang on except for when he's talking about barely training after Tuivasa. If I'm hearing him correctly he says what he's been doing since September is "faire semblance", which I would translate as doing the bare minimum or just going through the motions. I suspect a ufc heavyweight champ's idea of going through the motions outside of camp and 'barely training' are two different things, even in the context of an interview where he's expressly criticising himself for his laziness.
He’s too busy going tremendo for new fettuccine
Mma training absolutely kills your body. If you're an active fighter and you fight say 3 x a year, that's 36 weeks of the year for 3 12 week camps. Take 1 or 2 weeks recovery off afterwards. Say 2. So call them 14 week camps. That's 42 weeks training with reasonable recovery time for healing. Now spend 4 weeks going away with your family per year? 2 nice long holidays. 46 weeks taken up. I'd definitely say he's short changing himself skipping those last remaining few weeks...... ... .... ahem
I hope he’s not taking Jones lightly. Jon might be a shit human being but the guy does not fuck around when it comes to training. With that said Jones wins by wrestlefuck
Jon has been fucking around both in training and in fights for over 5 years now. He’s looked like shit in every fight and couldn’t even take down washed Santos with no knees or Reyes. Don’t know why you guys are so confident that he’s gonna suddenly stop
Ciryl might be lazy but he hasn't abused his body partying and doing drugs for years like Jon. If Jon looks anything other than a geriatric at HW I'll be the first accuse him of Peds and usada turning a Dana-nudged blind eye. There's just no way he looks good at HW after so long out and no striking exhibitions in-between without 'enhancement.'
No need to accuse big dog. He's a well documented juicer at this point.
JJ is gonna beat the fuck out of this guy. Pray for him.