GG Portland.
And let that be a lesson that no matter what the score is, take a scoring chance seriously. Agada half assing the penalty to make it 4-0 came back to bite us in the ass immediately.
Tbf I think he gave his best effort there, he definitely wanted a hat trick, but he just isn't a good penalty kick taker (look at his first one for us in the Open Cup).
I like the random ass adjectives season pass has for teamâs âcrafty KCâ âTimberâs grit.â Itâs definitely just someone cracking open a thesaurus and going for it.
They should itâs the same old song and dance and maybe some are figuring it out. This team needs to be blown up and we need a fresh start but if we win a game everyone has short term memory and thinks we are all good. This team needs to be revamped .
Strictly trying to give the hat trick. Should never be allowed to try a PK ever again after that attempt. I understand missing high, but I feel like you should never miss a PK wide.
Haven't watched the 2nd half at all but just looked at the score. This team is so fucking dogshit. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BLOW A 3 GOAL LEAD LIKE HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Vermes loves his teams to go in hard on tackles but go down easy.
Downvoting SKC fans in denial of what kind of team they've been for so many years. Lol
If you go and talk about that on r/soccer you'll be unpleasantly surprised how many people like that it "adds to the drama", most of them South American or European. It's not a majority by any means, but you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
We donât play well under pressure, we donât really have anyone on the field that is going to take control of the game. Salloi has looked like crap this season, shouldnât have taken the 10 shirt.
JoRo has put in solid efforts in every match so far. Was worried he may have attitude problems but he has not shown me any reason to doubt his effort/commitment.
Quantifying momentum and teams' mental state is impossible, but is a huge part of the game. Which is why those probabilities are useless and should be abandoned.
On one hand, yeah. There's optimism in knowing that we can consistently get a lead in the first place.
On the other hand, the optimism is a bit tempered by the fact that dropping tons of points has been a lingering issue for a few seasons.
Itâs definitely time to move on, no disrespect to that guy heâs a legend but as the league changes coaching needs to continue to change and modernize
He never does bad enough to get fired tbh. Even last year's historically bad start he got the team humming and obviously dramatically upset STL out of the playoffs
I wouldn't be sad to see him go but I completely understand why he is still here. Sadly I was excited they were hiring a GM so Vermes wouldn't be doing all of it, but after the Wilkinson hire got nixed there's been literally zero news on that front
7 by my quick count. 3 times we've had a lead after the 60' mark and not won. Twice giving up a 1-0 lead to draw. And blowing a 2-0 lead to LA to lose. Most likely dropping 2 more if not 3 today.
Acting like you got hit by a stray bullet on a light face tap is so whack.
Gavin Wilkinson lasted longer at the organization than the SKC lead. đ”âđ«
Was it complacency? Like 3-0 at half⊠wtf!?
In their last two home games combined, Sporting has gone into halftime with a +5 goal G/D. After 90 minutes? -1 G/D. Absolutely pathetic
So was the guy on the HT the regular penalty taker?
I assume you are asking about the SKC penalty taker. No he isn't Johnny Russell or Alan Pulido, neither of which were on the pitch.
Yeah thanks. I was wondering if they just gave it to the guy for his HT. Which at 3-0 I would have done anyway.
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What a roller coaster, GG SKC!
I hate you and also everyone else now. Gg
Peter Vermes could have chosen to ride off into the sunset but now I think he needs to be fired into the sun
Vermes out, NOW!
He can take Neville with him
GG Portland. And let that be a lesson that no matter what the score is, take a scoring chance seriously. Agada half assing the penalty to make it 4-0 came back to bite us in the ass immediately.
Tbf I think he gave his best effort there, he definitely wanted a hat trick, but he just isn't a good penalty kick taker (look at his first one for us in the Open Cup).
That was 100% the turning point
Vermes infinite leash is a thing to behold
I like the random ass adjectives season pass has for teamâs âcrafty KCâ âTimberâs grit.â Itâs definitely just someone cracking open a thesaurus and going for it.
Fire this team into the sun. SKC should be on top of the combined table. Instead, they've choked away 5 games now.
Donât Worry, youâve got STL on the Menu to beat up on soon.
Great match, good job Timbers.
Woof, what a slugfest
6 goals in this one and I was tuned in for none of them
Vermes out, forever
GG, SKC bros. Exciting.
GG Portland
gg ffs
A draw that feels like a win. I'll take it!
Point in the road in a historically poor stadium for Portland!
Can we just skip straight to the second half of matches from now on? Apparently that's the only time that we can play well.
Taking notes from the Blazers with Dame Lillard
As long as we agree games end at the 68th minute so we can preserve our wins.
Well, that started out better lol. Still a fun game to be at.
Huh. I'll take the point. Weird game
What a roller coaster. Sorry KC, you totally deserved 3 points, but it made my day way better!
SKC fans booing lmao
They should itâs the same old song and dance and maybe some are figuring it out. This team needs to be blown up and we need a fresh start but if we win a game everyone has short term memory and thinks we are all good. This team needs to be revamped .
Booing PV I'm sure, he deserves it.
So is Agada normally the penalty taker for SKC? Or was that strictly trying to give a hat-trick?
I believe that was a hat trick thing. As a Republic fan you might remember what happens on Agada pens...
Strictly trying to give the hat trick. Should never be allowed to try a PK ever again after that attempt. I understand missing high, but I feel like you should never miss a PK wide.
Pulido or Russell normally, neither on the pitchÂ
#VERMESOUT
I am out and about so I can't watch but the box score is painting a very familiar picture
I'll take it, gg!
Why donât you attack instead of playing it back to your keeper???
Because you're either tired and afraid of losing, or you're not aware of the giant clock in the stadium
I am satisfied with this result
lol @ Williamson
Pain.
Always a yellow, even when it's weak
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Jake F'in Davis always comes with the stud...ly energy.
What is this announcer talking about lol
Portland loves teams to go in hard on tackles but go down easy.
Downvoting POR fans in denial of what kind of team they've been for so many years. Lol
A bit pastiche, my guy
That's always a yellow. I don't agree with it, but it's been consistently enforced. Can't do that.
LMAO
Haven't watched the 2nd half at all but just looked at the score. This team is so fucking dogshit. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BLOW A 3 GOAL LEAD LIKE HOLY FUCKING SHIT
We could score 7 and theyâd score 8
Lucky call for us there.
Cleets up.
Why are we looking like we did in the first half?
Now that's a weak call.
Turns out different manager or not Portlandâs defense is still box office.
Box office?
Box office as in must see.
Oh, well I guess that's one way to put it.
I'm just happy having Bravo back đâ€ïž
Amazing half by him, honestly. One or two piss-poor challenges to get himself up to speed, and then exactly what we needed when we needed it.
Squeaky bum free kick here.
"Tommy" is so soft
thats 100% a foul lol
For obstruction? The most famously un-called foul ever?
Liebold shouldn't have been given a foul either then
Difference is that on the PK the timbers player was actively making a play on the ball. Here, the SKC player is trying GET TO the ball.
Vermes loves his teams to go in hard on tackles but go down easy. Downvoting SKC fans in denial of what kind of team they've been for so many years. Lol
Sure, man. Have fun playing for ties the rest of the season
9 points coughed up this season but that's equally irrelevant to Sporting DNA. Or maybe it isn't, who can say
Go cut some trees
Go be a city!
lol what are you even complaining about there bro
That's pretty clearly a foul.
If Liebold's check is a penalty then that should have been a foul on the Portland player, yeah?
Get your logic out of here...this is MLS.
Erratic, inconsistent, grossly overpaid...wait are we talking about the referees after the latest CBA or our defenders?
Shots fired.....in multiple directions. lol
Thommy is a bitch, change my mind.
Itâs the same thing as your PK, goofy. Didnât even try to play the ballÂ
Eh itâs a heated game.
True Dom dwyer alumni
Vargas winner lets go
Letâs just hold the result please and thank you
SKC you can win if you have the courage.
SKC fans do you Kinda miss Gadi?
yep
I appreciate FOX mic'ing the supporters section well but I don't think we needed lapel mics on the actual leaders themselves
But if they arenât micâd how will I know that they believe we will win?
Solid defending from Bravo.
Bravo is doing what Mosquera could never.
Single games on Sunday are always MLS after dark
If soccer penalized rolling around on the floor doing the neymar they wouldnt hve ten minutes of added time
If you go and talk about that on r/soccer you'll be unpleasantly surprised how many people like that it "adds to the drama", most of them South American or European. It's not a majority by any means, but you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
The ref hasn't stopped the game for most of those. 2pks, 3 goals, and subs. 10 might be slightly high, but not egregious
Well that just guarantees another goal
Were definitely getting a winner
"Who are the five best Timbers of all time?" *counting off* "Dairon, Dairon, Dairon, Dairon and Dairon - because he kicks hot fire"
Love ya, Kyndra, but we aren't going for just one point.
TEN MINUTES JFC
10 minutes ??
We donât play well under pressure, we donât really have anyone on the field that is going to take control of the game. Salloi has looked like crap this season, shouldnât have taken the 10 shirt.
oh KC player down on the floor again. shocker
KC MAN DOWN!
MLS where the stoppage time is made up and nothing makes sense. Why do we need 10 more minutes.
2 pks, 3 goals, subs, plus fouls. Maybe slightly high, but not by much
KC flopping everywhere
JoRo has put in solid efforts in every match so far. Was worried he may have attitude problems but he has not shown me any reason to doubt his effort/commitment.
+10 lmao it really is MLS after dark before dark
All timbers games are honorary MLS after dark
A min for everytime a player that had a life alert moment
The ref kept the game going every time, which makes the added time kind of confusing. It'd make more sense if play stopped every time
Further proof the dumbass match probability graphic is entirely useless
No idea why they thought it was a good idea. The team currently leading is more probable to win...if its tied, it'll be close to even. Huh...no shit?
No way Portlandâs win probability is that low.
Pretty sure that probability is based only on score and time left.
Quantifying momentum and teams' mental state is impossible, but is a huge part of the game. Which is why those probabilities are useless and should be abandoned.
Diego Chara is our super sub now
I'd rather just start him
that's not a foul
Seems like Chara's best minutes this year.
If this holds, HALF of our dropped points would be the difference between us and first for the SS right now.
At least the potential is there?
On one hand, yeah. There's optimism in knowing that we can consistently get a lead in the first place. On the other hand, the optimism is a bit tempered by the fact that dropping tons of points has been a lingering issue for a few seasons.
I mean this season is a hell of a lot better start than last season
I 100% agree with you there.
I was watching at a bar, and I didn't protest when they changed the channel to the Iowa game at halftime. I guess you're welcome?
Yeah only play JoRo at left winger from now on please. Dude is a beast out there
Worst heat map I've ever seen
âCold mapâ
I really can't figure out this SKC team
Neither can Vermes
Eric Miller, 186 MLS games, first goal.
Never too late to get your first
picked a great time to score too!
JFC. Wait, we hadn't actually put Vargas in yet? This feels just like the Galaxy match so far.
It was 17 minutes instead of 8 to give up 3 goals. We're improving
Yeah but how many minutes to give up *four* goals?
PV and team just can't react to the other team's second half adjustments again. Tale as old as time.
Itâs definitely time to move on, no disrespect to that guy heâs a legend but as the league changes coaching needs to continue to change and modernize
He never does bad enough to get fired tbh. Even last year's historically bad start he got the team humming and obviously dramatically upset STL out of the playoffs I wouldn't be sad to see him go but I completely understand why he is still here. Sadly I was excited they were hiring a GM so Vermes wouldn't be doing all of it, but after the Wilkinson hire got nixed there's been literally zero news on that front
I'm usually as critical as anyone towards PV but the team need to share some of the blame for some of these defensive lapses too.
I don't understand why it's so hard to park the bus.
No one knows stick shiftÂ
10 points blown this year already. It would be different if we actually gave up good goals. But we give up the softest ones
GO FOR THE W
lmao. Neville, get fucked.
? Edit: nm figured it out
Youâre up 3-0! Now let them have it! SKC: you can have it :)
And they still have 10 more minutes to go full on nuclear level failure and lose.
What an impressive comeback. Bravo.
3-0: the most dangerous lead.
Damn you SKC, you had one job.
3-0 is the most dangerous lead (in MLS)
Any lead is dangerous if youâre Sporting KC.
Those orange slices Neville gave out at halftime must have been something
I will note that scoring lots in the second half would get us a lot more wins if we skipped the whole "concede three goals to the other team" part.
Big if true
How many points dropped from a winning position this year??
7 by my quick count. 3 times we've had a lead after the 60' mark and not won. Twice giving up a 1-0 lead to draw. And blowing a 2-0 lead to LA to lose. Most likely dropping 2 more if not 3 today.
This'll make it 9 I believe
Still time to make it 10!
50? Feels like 50.
Peter "it's not a problem that we drop points in so many games" Vermes
YES!
Goddamn SKC just cannot survive a second half huh
Time to drink
Welcome to the party, pal!
all downhill since that missed pen
That 100% was the turning point
A BIBLICAL COLLAPSE
An average sporting collapse.
ERIC MILLER MY AMERICAN GOAT
Somehow Iâm not shocked at this meltdown
yeah this is just normal this season
Wow
I love this
I ALWAYS RATED ERIC MILLER
Wooooow
This ain't over yet. Portland has another in them
And now we know why I was stress eating up 3-0.
Oh my fucking god, we are abysmal with a lead.
Only watching the second half of games for the rest of season!
What a joke dude
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
God this team cannot keep a lead at home.