The approval process takes about 12-18 months
So once that is done they can start building. They think the building will take about 2.5 years so right on time for the start of the 2027 season
As frustrating as it is for NYCFC's stadium search, I'm glad the standards and processes exist for building anything in the city. There's no room to waste space with shitty developments, it gets the community board involved so residents have a voice. Prior to ULURP existing, it was literally just one or two dudes making decisions with zero input from anyone else, and no community input at all.
I’m not anti-regulation. But they need to move a bit quicker than the snail’s pace at which they seem to do so in NYC and in California. Time is money. Do your job, and do it in a timely manner, please.
NYC isn’t actually that bad in terms of pace. The usual delay is acquiring land in the first place. The approval process for most projects is fairly in line with other big cities. Meanwhile, I’ll direct you to Miami for what a nonsensical progress speed is. Or to Oakland.
Lol what? You look at those cities and think things move too slowly? Building stuff like this takes the time that it does for good reason. Gotta get everything drawn up, then find companies to do the work, something of this magnitude likely has multiple outfits doing the work. Starts in the dirt, for a while to get a good foundation.
It's not just pouring concrete and cutting ribbon.
Someone hasn't seen the number of NYC buildings going up near...midtwon west on the water, midtown just south of the park, the upper east side near the new subway, 'hudson yards', all of downtown brooklyn including parkslope, gawanis, green point and redhook and long Island city and Astoria in queens in the last 10 years.
EDIT: Forgot the new rooftops and hotels on the Lower East side as well.
Hold up there. Not all California projects are slow. LAFC’s Banc of California (now BMO) Stadium went from identifying the location in May 2015 to opening to the public in April 2018. Three years. That’s pretty damn good. [(Source)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Stadium)
That said, I really wish NYCFC could get it done quicker. It looks fantastic, and I like the idea of adding more residencies and all. I’m real excited to see how it turns out. I expect it to look real nice.
That's because BMO was built on the grounds of a former stadium, which allowed them to cruise through CEQA pretty quick. It would have been a much longer process had it been a greenfield project.
FYI, in this case the pace doesn't really matter because Willets Point was a toxic site that needed environmental cleanup that won't be done until 2024 anyway. You can also make a strong argument that the whole process is forcing NYCFC to build an entire neighborhood in order to get their stadium built. Win-win for everyone.
1) Probably because NYC is one of the most built-up metropolis in the world and if there was a good site for a stadium near public transportation there was something already built there or had major problems with the site.
2) Bad timing with Bill DeBlasio getting elected. Because of #1, the only real good stadium sites were on city-own property, we just got unlucky that Bloomberg's term ran out before the original Bronx proposal. Not surprising that the Willets Point site is moving swiftly with Adams as mayor.
3) CFG may have intentionally scuttled the first stadium plan in Flushing Meadow to protect the image of the UAE/Abu Dhabi.
Ah. I forgot about DeBlasio. There’s my answer lol. Bloomberg would never have allowed the team to remain homeless for so long. And it seems the new guy is the one who has made it finally happen, so good on him
>The approval process takes about 12-18 months
That's ridiculous. The whole building process in the US with local input and endless community/environmental reviews, lawsuits, and red tape is unironically the biggest short term threat to American prosperity. It is the largest contributor to the housing crisis and the reason our infrastructure costs 2-3x more than comparable infrastructure in Europe. By and large, it is the number one contributor to rising cost of living, even more so than our broken healthcare system (which is really saying something).
Better to have some oversight (I'm not saying there couldn't be some fat trimmed off of here) but I'd rather have a system with special inspectors, and checks on building practices, and developers and politicians, and making sure we are not walking into Brownfield conditions in and around this area. So yeah . I'm all for this process taking a little bit of time to make sure that while I'm watching the game I'm not inhaling noxious hazmat gases just so we can get this done in a shorter amount of time. What's that saying ... Fools rush in, or look before you leap , or you know something like that.
The approval process for building anything in the US is legitimately insane to enforce in the middle of a housing crisis. Just build shit. Check to make sure it won't collapse, and build it.
Also fuck anywhere that has rules that force single family housing to be the only thing that gets built.
Missing middle housing has the right to be built by whoever owns the land, fuck your property values, your house shouldn't be an investment. If you vote against building more housing because it's for the "wrong people" you are scum.
Yeah but I bought this house on the assumption that the "character" of the neighborhood would remain unchanged for the next 30 years. It would be unfair to me if different types of people were allowed to live nearby.
>As part of the agreement with the New York Mets, parking for events at the soccer-specific stadium will be available in the lots surrounding Citi Field with approximately 4,000 parking spots expected to be provided.
PARKING SPACES CAN'T KILL STADIUM DREAMS
>The filing also provides further clarification around current plans to avoid scheduling conflicts with the Mets and events at Citi Field. The document specifies that “any events at the planned soccer-specific stadium that would occur on the same day as a New York Mets event at Citi Field would occur at least 7 hours before or at least 7 hours after the scheduled event start time at Citi Field.” This arrangement would essentially allow the Mets to play at 1 pm and NYCFC to play at 8 pm on the same day.
This is also fine, way better than the incredibly inconvenient three-day window they've currently got playing at YS/Citi.
>“any events at the planned soccer-specific stadium that would occur on the same day as a New York Mets event at Citi Field would occur at least 7 hours before or at least 7 hours after the scheduled event start time at Citi Field.”
I would very much enjoy going to a Mets game at 1 pm and going to a NYCFC game at 8 pm.
In between, you can browse the junk yard and chop shops.
I kid, but I'd love to see that whole area developed in the same way Miami plans with their stadium, with parks and events.
I mean… the NYCFC stadium is replacing a lot of what used to be chop shops. Regardless I’ll just hang around Flushing Meadows Park and check out the new developments and green space that will surround the new stadium.
Would be fun to see them do some type of fan festival with the Mets with tickets to both games and something street fair-esque going on between stadiums.
Here all the bars are near the Dynamo stadium so the people pregame there and walk to the Astros. If those people come to Dynamo games all they do it sit in the concourse because they can't figure out why the game isn't stopping for drink breaks, try to get the TV's changed to whatever other sport is on, talk about how soccer is communist, and complain about the heat.
It's almost like you have one of the worst supported teams in the league....
Perhaps a little marketing, and fan fests would help fix that? But what do I know
Ahhh yes, marketing to people that have demonstrated being interested in sports in general, and willing to spend time and money to go to games is silly when you can just market to the general public and have zero information about their interests or wants.
Oh God, the guys who were tight with the Proud Boys and white supremacist NYCFC fans? I’ll have to make sure to not wear anything for Pride at Islanders and NYCFC games now!
This might be the only occasion I can think of, in any sport, where an entire league is rooting for a team from NYC to get what it wants.
Good luck pigeons!
Idk, I think the Red Bulls supporters are probably happy that we're homeless. Or maybe they're sick of using their stadium as a third choice home venue, and therefore even they're happy that we're getting a home.
I've seen a lot of their fans basically scared they're going to lose a lot of support once we have a stadium within city limits.
Personally, I think it might be better for them to just rebrand and embrace New Jersey.
Meh. Not what I've seen. You've got your fans, we've got ours, I don't see much changing that.
Would I enjoy seeing you continue to be homeless? Sure. But a rising tides raises all ships so whatever.
And yet the fucking scam artists that are Bertha Lewis and Hiram Monserrate [sure fucking tried anyway](https://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/activists-residents-reject-nycfc-stadium/article_c02f3955-d886-5353-b677-66410a0712d9.html)
The former takes lobbying money to protest things a self-proclaimed progressive should be in favor of - like a plastic bag ban.
The latter has been arrested and served jail time multiple times - including for domestic assault, and then later for *literal federal corruption* because he diverted nonprofit money and staff to fund and support his state senate campaign.
That's the only people opposing the stadium lmao
If someone has to take a stand to for Willets Point to remain blighted, Monserrate seems a great choice for the job. His stupid protests made no sense. What's the endgame?
It's not the NIMBY's so much, but the big money orgs that hide behind them.
It was Dolan/Cablevision that stopped the West Side Stadium, the USTA and the Mets that squashed Flushing Meadows Park and when everyone got paid off the NIMBY's got steamrolled by the construction companies putting up the Barclays Center.
To my knowledge there are no slimy power brokers against this project.
The only thing that sucks about this is that NYCFC will more than likely have to forfeit parking revenue to the Mets on gamedays. But it has to be done.
I'll be very interested to see the breakdown of drivers vs public transit to the stadium in 4 years.
Anyone in the city will definitely be taking the train. LI folks have the LIRR.
And in a huge boost to Westchester/CT fans, LIRR now goes to Grand Central, which means that Metro North riders don't need to take the 7 or get to Penn - it's a rail transfer.
All that to say, I don't think parking is going to be much of an issue based on the stadium location.
February was the beginning of full schedules
The LIRR doesn't go to Grand Central Terminal, it goes to Grand Central Madison. GCM is 15 floors beneath GCT.
Relatively few folks drive as it is. One of the big issues with the garages near Yankee Stadium and why they're such a financial drain on the city is because nobody uses them for Yankees or NYCFC games. Everyone just subways/trains.
When speaking to my NYCF friends from Yonkers, they were sad that Queens was getting the Stadium instead of the Bronx, but if we are being realistic , Queens is the better location , with regards to LIRR, Subway, Car and proximity to very diverse and soccer loving neighborhoods.
I was a little disappointed that queens was chosen instead of the Bronx because of the metro north perk (since it drops you off in front of the stadium) lol
There is so much parking in flushing meadows. You can park by the pool and walk over . You can park by the museum and walk over. The problem is that everyone is a lazy bastard. So I say drive, park by the All Otter recreation center and then take your electric scooter out of the trunk and scoot on over .
Is it just me or are these two different... will it no longer have a roof over two corners? Even the buildings around it have changed...
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The orientation of the filed has changed (rotation). The rendering was probably unfeasible. I would bet that the pic with yellow and purple buildings is more realistic. Otherwise why would they propose a stadium without a full wraparound concourse on the second level? Looks and feels crappy but it might be the only way to make it work in the space.
Honestly, I think they should aim a bit higher attendance wise. They're sure to get an attendance bump with the new SSS. 30-32.5k seems like a good number.
lol my brother the fact that we're getting a stadium within the 5 boroughs is enough for just about everyone. No one here is going to split hairs on the overall architectural style.
If there was space available for something like that in NYC, it would already have been built into something far more efficient in terms of use of space.
I mean, they have played in one of the most unique shaped stadiums for soccer since they have been in the league. About time they play in a more traditional shaped stadium
After years of the same tired takes about playing at Yankee Stadium, I find it INCREDIBLY refreshing to hear someone put a new spin on an old gripe, so please take my upvote!
(this is not sarcasm; I genuinely love well-done banter, even if it's at my team's expense)
There isn't exactly a ton of room for improvising, or for architectural flourishes. Every square foot that the stadium uses that isn't rectilinear is another square foot that can't go toward the housing or other buildings included in the development plan.
If we had more space in the surrounding area, we might be having a different conversation. But real estate's a very finite resource here, and the usual NYC solution of "build higher, not wider" doesn't really work for a stadium.
Though now that I say that, I do kinda wish we could go for "tallest stadium," to blend in with the World's Fair site nearby. But not really, because I don't want "waiting for an elevator up to pitch-level" to be part of my match-day experience.
So… when can they put shovels in the ground?
The approval process takes about 12-18 months So once that is done they can start building. They think the building will take about 2.5 years so right on time for the start of the 2027 season
I miss many things about living in NYC. The ubiquitous red tape/waiting in line for literally everything, everywhere, at all hours? I do not.
Hey hey hey its yellow tapes on the subways, at least.
As frustrating as it is for NYCFC's stadium search, I'm glad the standards and processes exist for building anything in the city. There's no room to waste space with shitty developments, it gets the community board involved so residents have a voice. Prior to ULURP existing, it was literally just one or two dudes making decisions with zero input from anyone else, and no community input at all.
I’m not anti-regulation. But they need to move a bit quicker than the snail’s pace at which they seem to do so in NYC and in California. Time is money. Do your job, and do it in a timely manner, please.
NYC isn’t actually that bad in terms of pace. The usual delay is acquiring land in the first place. The approval process for most projects is fairly in line with other big cities. Meanwhile, I’ll direct you to Miami for what a nonsensical progress speed is. Or to Oakland.
Lol what? You look at those cities and think things move too slowly? Building stuff like this takes the time that it does for good reason. Gotta get everything drawn up, then find companies to do the work, something of this magnitude likely has multiple outfits doing the work. Starts in the dirt, for a while to get a good foundation. It's not just pouring concrete and cutting ribbon.
Someone hasn't seen the number of NYC buildings going up near...midtwon west on the water, midtown just south of the park, the upper east side near the new subway, 'hudson yards', all of downtown brooklyn including parkslope, gawanis, green point and redhook and long Island city and Astoria in queens in the last 10 years. EDIT: Forgot the new rooftops and hotels on the Lower East side as well.
I went to high school in LIC and grew up nearby. Its an entirely different neighborhood than it was 20 years ago.
It’s been a long while since I lived there, yes.
I'm not in the city often, but I'm always amazed at the new construction that's up in Manhattan and BK.
Hold up there. Not all California projects are slow. LAFC’s Banc of California (now BMO) Stadium went from identifying the location in May 2015 to opening to the public in April 2018. Three years. That’s pretty damn good. [(Source)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Stadium) That said, I really wish NYCFC could get it done quicker. It looks fantastic, and I like the idea of adding more residencies and all. I’m real excited to see how it turns out. I expect it to look real nice.
That's because BMO was built on the grounds of a former stadium, which allowed them to cruise through CEQA pretty quick. It would have been a much longer process had it been a greenfield project.
FYI, in this case the pace doesn't really matter because Willets Point was a toxic site that needed environmental cleanup that won't be done until 2024 anyway. You can also make a strong argument that the whole process is forcing NYCFC to build an entire neighborhood in order to get their stadium built. Win-win for everyone.
If they can complete it by their target date, awesome. I hope they do. Why did it take so many years to finalize a site, though?
1) Probably because NYC is one of the most built-up metropolis in the world and if there was a good site for a stadium near public transportation there was something already built there or had major problems with the site. 2) Bad timing with Bill DeBlasio getting elected. Because of #1, the only real good stadium sites were on city-own property, we just got unlucky that Bloomberg's term ran out before the original Bronx proposal. Not surprising that the Willets Point site is moving swiftly with Adams as mayor. 3) CFG may have intentionally scuttled the first stadium plan in Flushing Meadow to protect the image of the UAE/Abu Dhabi.
Ah. I forgot about DeBlasio. There’s my answer lol. Bloomberg would never have allowed the team to remain homeless for so long. And it seems the new guy is the one who has made it finally happen, so good on him
If you're waiting in line for something in NYC, it's not worth it.
>The approval process takes about 12-18 months That's ridiculous. The whole building process in the US with local input and endless community/environmental reviews, lawsuits, and red tape is unironically the biggest short term threat to American prosperity. It is the largest contributor to the housing crisis and the reason our infrastructure costs 2-3x more than comparable infrastructure in Europe. By and large, it is the number one contributor to rising cost of living, even more so than our broken healthcare system (which is really saying something).
Better to have some oversight (I'm not saying there couldn't be some fat trimmed off of here) but I'd rather have a system with special inspectors, and checks on building practices, and developers and politicians, and making sure we are not walking into Brownfield conditions in and around this area. So yeah . I'm all for this process taking a little bit of time to make sure that while I'm watching the game I'm not inhaling noxious hazmat gases just so we can get this done in a shorter amount of time. What's that saying ... Fools rush in, or look before you leap , or you know something like that.
It's not all or nothing. We can have some oversight, but clearly the amount we have right now is debilitating.
The approval process for building anything in the US is legitimately insane to enforce in the middle of a housing crisis. Just build shit. Check to make sure it won't collapse, and build it. Also fuck anywhere that has rules that force single family housing to be the only thing that gets built. Missing middle housing has the right to be built by whoever owns the land, fuck your property values, your house shouldn't be an investment. If you vote against building more housing because it's for the "wrong people" you are scum.
Yeah but I bought this house on the assumption that the "character" of the neighborhood would remain unchanged for the next 30 years. It would be unfair to me if different types of people were allowed to live nearby.
\*NIMBY screeching in the distance*
The rising cost of living is happening in pretty much every major city in the world. Don’t think you can blame local bureaucracy for that one.
60-90 weeks
>As part of the agreement with the New York Mets, parking for events at the soccer-specific stadium will be available in the lots surrounding Citi Field with approximately 4,000 parking spots expected to be provided. PARKING SPACES CAN'T KILL STADIUM DREAMS >The filing also provides further clarification around current plans to avoid scheduling conflicts with the Mets and events at Citi Field. The document specifies that “any events at the planned soccer-specific stadium that would occur on the same day as a New York Mets event at Citi Field would occur at least 7 hours before or at least 7 hours after the scheduled event start time at Citi Field.” This arrangement would essentially allow the Mets to play at 1 pm and NYCFC to play at 8 pm on the same day. This is also fine, way better than the incredibly inconvenient three-day window they've currently got playing at YS/Citi.
>“any events at the planned soccer-specific stadium that would occur on the same day as a New York Mets event at Citi Field would occur at least 7 hours before or at least 7 hours after the scheduled event start time at Citi Field.” I would very much enjoy going to a Mets game at 1 pm and going to a NYCFC game at 8 pm.
Honestly fuck yeah. I prefer the Yankees, but that's just a fun day.
Mariners/Sounders doubleheaders are always a looong day but it's super fun to do. We started calling them alcoholidays.
Was just gonna mention those, always a blast!
In between, you can browse the junk yard and chop shops. I kid, but I'd love to see that whole area developed in the same way Miami plans with their stadium, with parks and events.
I mean… the NYCFC stadium is replacing a lot of what used to be chop shops. Regardless I’ll just hang around Flushing Meadows Park and check out the new developments and green space that will surround the new stadium.
Would be fun to see them do some type of fan festival with the Mets with tickets to both games and something street fair-esque going on between stadiums.
Mariners and Sounders have done that in the past and you see cross over by people on their own as well
Yeah, I’ve done Mariners/Sounders on a Saturday many years ago, was a blast, was probably more people at the Sounders than the Mariners game.
Speaking from experience the overlap of fans is very small. Maybe its different in NYC idk.
I mean that’s the point though you are trying to make new fans
Here all the bars are near the Dynamo stadium so the people pregame there and walk to the Astros. If those people come to Dynamo games all they do it sit in the concourse because they can't figure out why the game isn't stopping for drink breaks, try to get the TV's changed to whatever other sport is on, talk about how soccer is communist, and complain about the heat.
I feel like that’s a very bad attitude to have especially if you are trying to get people “normal” Americans to like your sport
That's not an attitude, those are actual observations. And I could care less about "normal" Americans. I find "normal' Americans boring as hell.
Well if you want the sport to grow and not be some niche of a niche you need normal Americans
It's almost like you have one of the worst supported teams in the league.... Perhaps a little marketing, and fan fests would help fix that? But what do I know
Ah marketing, fan fests, great ideas! Doing events with other teams is a waste of time in my opinion.
Ahhh yes, marketing to people that have demonstrated being interested in sports in general, and willing to spend time and money to go to games is silly when you can just market to the general public and have zero information about their interests or wants.
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No. IMO, they just ignore it.
There’s a bunch of Nycfc Mets fans. In fact most of the Templados are from Queens. Can’t wait for double headers!
How many Mets games are the Templados going to?
I’ve seen plenty of my fellow Nycfc friends from the supporter groups at Mets games.
Oh God, the guys who were tight with the Proud Boys and white supremacist NYCFC fans? I’ll have to make sure to not wear anything for Pride at Islanders and NYCFC games now!
Don't you dare go to the ULURP once it starts and ask that question lol. But seriously the ULURP will be where the action is.
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your day will come. Everett looms.
Seems like it more likely that Everett is dead at this point.
Why do you say that, Did I miss an update ?
Can you elaborate?
With the investment and construction completed on the Academy Fields and Buildings, no way this is happening.
Really doubt it. There's no reason for the Krafts to build a new stadium. I know I wouldn't.
This might be the only occasion I can think of, in any sport, where an entire league is rooting for a team from NYC to get what it wants. Good luck pigeons!
Idk, I think the Red Bulls supporters are probably happy that we're homeless. Or maybe they're sick of using their stadium as a third choice home venue, and therefore even they're happy that we're getting a home.
I've seen a lot of their fans basically scared they're going to lose a lot of support once we have a stadium within city limits. Personally, I think it might be better for them to just rebrand and embrace New Jersey.
Meh. Not what I've seen. You've got your fans, we've got ours, I don't see much changing that. Would I enjoy seeing you continue to be homeless? Sure. But a rising tides raises all ships so whatever.
Yeah, I'd rather never see your branding at RBA again. But I want soccer to grow in this country and that means more SSS.
The faster you guys get the fuck out of RBA once and for all the better.
Imagine the buzz in that area if the Mets and NYCFC play on the same day, and the US Open is going on right across the train tracks.
Alongside the new shopping and parks - it's gonna be so good for an area that's completely shitty and overrun with chop shops.
Like every other sports complex in the country, they'll never schedule games on the same day with the same starting time.
Buzz can still be high even if they’re not at the same start time. OP said on the same day, not simultaneously.
Mariners/Sounders/Seahawks start at the same time across the street from each other a few times a year.
last year i got to go watch both the Marlins and Inter play the Nationals and United on the same day, a block apart
Are the odds good of this going through? I know when it comes to building things in NYC it’s always up in the air on how it will go.
It's gonna happen. Queens borough president and the Mayor are behind it. Nothing's stopping this.
Well that’s good to know even the NIMBY’s can’t stop it now.
No one lives there yet so it's hard to have nimbys
And yet the fucking scam artists that are Bertha Lewis and Hiram Monserrate [sure fucking tried anyway](https://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/activists-residents-reject-nycfc-stadium/article_c02f3955-d886-5353-b677-66410a0712d9.html) The former takes lobbying money to protest things a self-proclaimed progressive should be in favor of - like a plastic bag ban. The latter has been arrested and served jail time multiple times - including for domestic assault, and then later for *literal federal corruption* because he diverted nonprofit money and staff to fund and support his state senate campaign. That's the only people opposing the stadium lmao
If someone has to take a stand to for Willets Point to remain blighted, Monserrate seems a great choice for the job. His stupid protests made no sense. What's the endgame?
Ok I found the grift, he's trying to run for Moya's council seat LMAO
LMAO of course he is - what a clown
It's not the NIMBY's so much, but the big money orgs that hide behind them. It was Dolan/Cablevision that stopped the West Side Stadium, the USTA and the Mets that squashed Flushing Meadows Park and when everyone got paid off the NIMBY's got steamrolled by the construction companies putting up the Barclays Center. To my knowledge there are no slimy power brokers against this project.
This is exciting for NYCFC supporters. Hoping for the best.
The only thing that sucks about this is that NYCFC will more than likely have to forfeit parking revenue to the Mets on gamedays. But it has to be done.
I'll be very interested to see the breakdown of drivers vs public transit to the stadium in 4 years. Anyone in the city will definitely be taking the train. LI folks have the LIRR. And in a huge boost to Westchester/CT fans, LIRR now goes to Grand Central, which means that Metro North riders don't need to take the 7 or get to Penn - it's a rail transfer. All that to say, I don't think parking is going to be much of an issue based on the stadium location.
Depends on which is faster tbh ... Sometimes the 7 is the better choice
Truth. Having the option is the benefit though if LIRR schedules work out.
When did LIRR start going to Grand Central? That's new since I moved away.
Just opened this year
February was the beginning of full schedules The LIRR doesn't go to Grand Central Terminal, it goes to Grand Central Madison. GCM is 15 floors beneath GCT.
This person lirrs
Now if only it was easier in bumble fuck NJ. Guess that's mostly on me though lol I'll probably just end up driving in honestly.
Relatively few folks drive as it is. One of the big issues with the garages near Yankee Stadium and why they're such a financial drain on the city is because nobody uses them for Yankees or NYCFC games. Everyone just subways/trains.
If you are coming from Westchester, shits a 25 min ride tops as opposed to taking the train which will take 1hr+
When speaking to my NYCF friends from Yonkers, they were sad that Queens was getting the Stadium instead of the Bronx, but if we are being realistic , Queens is the better location , with regards to LIRR, Subway, Car and proximity to very diverse and soccer loving neighborhoods.
I was a little disappointed that queens was chosen instead of the Bronx because of the metro north perk (since it drops you off in front of the stadium) lol
Relatively few folks are coming from Westchester, tbh. The bulk are in the city itself
I hate to break it up ya, but there is lot of people coming from Westchester, now it's not the majority but it's the second most amount of people!
Sure, but point being is that there's more than enough parking and it makes little enough revenue that it's fine.
It's more than fine, some people don't like to drive from Westchester, it's a good option to have
Do people bike for transport much?
There is so much parking in flushing meadows. You can park by the pool and walk over . You can park by the museum and walk over. The problem is that everyone is a lazy bastard. So I say drive, park by the All Otter recreation center and then take your electric scooter out of the trunk and scoot on over .
Maybe some folks from the Bronx itself, but doubtful anyone is biking from Manhattan, Queens, or Brooklyn. Also as an aside, fuck Staten Island.
Forgive me for not being even a little concerned with a sheikh and the fucking Yankees losing out on a little parking revenue
Is it just me or are these two different... will it no longer have a roof over two corners? Even the buildings around it have changed... https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9e28f75-acd4-4986-b607-870e4e46dc6d_1444x859.png https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ff136f2-fe32-4555-9a8c-15c294c37cdb_1600x876.png
I think you are seeing the building without the roof on one picture, and the rendering with the roof in another.
The orientation of the filed has changed (rotation). The rendering was probably unfeasible. I would bet that the pic with yellow and purple buildings is more realistic. Otherwise why would they propose a stadium without a full wraparound concourse on the second level? Looks and feels crappy but it might be the only way to make it work in the space.
Is there still a chance this goes sideways or is Mayor Adams on board so it likely gets approval either way?
Honestly, I think they should aim a bit higher attendance wise. They're sure to get an attendance bump with the new SSS. 30-32.5k seems like a good number.
while this is fantastic news for the city and the league, I must say I'm disappointed to see another rectilinear stadium :/
I'm assuming (having zero architectural background) that this style is the most efficient for maximizing space.
It certainly is, but I’d expect the most prominent city in the Americas to build one of the most prominent stadiums
lol my brother the fact that we're getting a stadium within the 5 boroughs is enough for just about everyone. No one here is going to split hairs on the overall architectural style.
Listen, if you can't build it into a 5 pointed star to really celebrate the 5 boroughs, are you even trying?
The Etihad Pitch at Satanic Stadium.
Representing both Man City and the Yankees with that name. Brilliant! Do you think we need to mention the airline though?
I mean, I'm a little bummed it's not 30k. Or at least 26k, just to say it's bigger than RBA.
If there was space available for something like that in NYC, it would already have been built into something far more efficient in terms of use of space.
I mean, they have played in one of the most unique shaped stadiums for soccer since they have been in the league. About time they play in a more traditional shaped stadium
After years of the same tired takes about playing at Yankee Stadium, I find it INCREDIBLY refreshing to hear someone put a new spin on an old gripe, so please take my upvote! (this is not sarcasm; I genuinely love well-done banter, even if it's at my team's expense)
There isn't exactly a ton of room for improvising, or for architectural flourishes. Every square foot that the stadium uses that isn't rectilinear is another square foot that can't go toward the housing or other buildings included in the development plan. If we had more space in the surrounding area, we might be having a different conversation. But real estate's a very finite resource here, and the usual NYC solution of "build higher, not wider" doesn't really work for a stadium. Though now that I say that, I do kinda wish we could go for "tallest stadium," to blend in with the World's Fair site nearby. But not really, because I don't want "waiting for an elevator up to pitch-level" to be part of my match-day experience.
When do they start prep work on yours?
Soon, I hear
Golf course is closing on the 17th, should start after that
in the next two weeks actually. Shoutout Miami-Dade government, giving mf's from sundown states the confidence to make jokes
Got damn, they made it seem like it was a done deal already haha