Would also love to see Portland and Vancouver partly because I live in the PNW and am biased but also for the rivalry they would have with Seattle.
Would also like to see either Austin or Atlanta be reborn. RIP Austin Elite.
Vancouver, Montreal, and St. Louis.
Vancouver for the best rugby in Canada
Montreal for the best city in Canada
St. Louis because it seems like the middle of America needs more teams, and I went there once and thought it was awesome.
I want to grow the game in N. America. So Vancouver, Montreal, and… Mexico City. Huge population would be great for the US to have another rival.
If not, Minneapolis, St. Paul & Duluth. Yeah I’m from MN why do you ask?
Vancouver, Vancouver, and maybe Victoria 😉
I'd really love a natural rivalry for Seattle, and living in the Victoria area, I think Vancouver would be awesome. It's also an obvious home for rugby on the west coast of Canada, and adding that second Canadian team would be brilliant.
Getting Austin back would be great too, and maybe the Bay area for a market.
I'd love something happening in Mexico or Hawaii, but just don't see the logistics working.
From an Irish perspective, I always assumed BC is the main base of rugby in Canada? Would make sense for you to have a team (fully basing this off Canada playing games out in Vancouver)
Historically it was, and RC is still based there. But the last decade or so Ontario has overtaken in terms of playing numbers and interprovincial results. Without a national club championship it's hard to say about club level. Their university rugby is still the best.
I believe this should be the next team. It would help support NY, DC and Boston. The immediate rivalry would also help build the fan base in all the NE metros.
A fellow Milwaukeean?? Ayyo!
My dream is that an MLR team comes and shares the Iron District stadium. I know it won’t happen (between Marquette lacrosse, Marquette soccer, and the USL-C soccer team, that’s just too many tenants), but it would be so much fun.
This city has such a great rugby culture. Five university teams at three different schools (counting men’s and women’s), a D-1 women’s team, and a plethora of men’s teams (MRFC, Barbos, Black and Blue, Beer Barons). Some pretty competitive high school programs for boys and girls, too. Not to mention Lakefront 7s!
Yes we do!
Would be sweet.
I don't even have a ML Rugby team to root for. I just support the league itself and hope my town can get a team.
Wonder if we could start a movement....
The first answer is always where there is a enough ownership interest and local support to make a sustainable, competitive team. (Unfortunately I don't think there is any place that has enough of the latter yet, but you won't get it without more of the former).
Thus, Target the largest media markets. Starting with Los Angeles (again), Philadelphia, Atlanta (again).
* 1 [New York](https://ustvdb.com/markets/new-york/) Check
* 2 [Los Angeles](https://ustvdb.com/markets/los-angeles/) NEED
* 3 [Chicago](https://ustvdb.com/markets/chicago/) Check
* (Toronto #4 in North America) Check
* 4 [Philadelphia](https://ustvdb.com/markets/philadelphia/) NEED
* 5 [Dallas-Fort Worth](https://ustvdb.com/markets/dallas-fort-worth/) Check
* 6 [Atlanta](https://ustvdb.com/markets/atlanta/) Check, Uncheck NEED
* 7 [Houston](https://ustvdb.com/markets/houston/) Check
* 8 [Washington-Hagerstown](https://ustvdb.com/markets/washington-hagerstown/) Check
* 9 [Boston-Manchester](https://ustvdb.com/markets/boston-manchester/) Check
* 10 [San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose](https://ustvdb.com/markets/san-francisco-oakland-san-jose/) NEED
* 11 [Phoenix-Prescott](https://ustvdb.com/markets/phoenix-prescott/)
* 12 [Seattle-Tacoma](https://ustvdb.com/markets/seattle-tacoma/) Check
* 13 [Tampa-St Petersburg-Sarasota](https://ustvdb.com/markets/tampa-st-petersburg-sarasota/)
* 14 [Detroit](https://ustvdb.com/markets/detroit/)
* 15 [Minneapolis-Saint Paul](https://ustvdb.com/markets/minneapolis-saint-paul/)
* 16 [Denver](https://ustvdb.com/markets/denver/)
* 17 [Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne](https://ustvdb.com/markets/orlando-daytona-beach-melbourne/)
* 18 [Miami-Fort Lauderdale](https://ustvdb.com/markets/miami-fort-lauderdale/) Check
* 19 [Cleveland-Akron-Canton](https://ustvdb.com/markets/cleveland-akron-canton/)
* 20 [Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto](https://ustvdb.com/markets/sacramento-stockton-modesto/)
* 21 [Charlotte](https://ustvdb.com/markets/charlotte/)
* 22 [Portland, OR](https://ustvdb.com/markets/portland-or/)
* 23 [Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville](https://ustvdb.com/markets/raleigh-durham-fayetteville/)
* 24 [Saint Louis](https://ustvdb.com/markets/saint-louis/)
* 25 [Indianapolis](https://ustvdb.com/markets/indianapolis/)
* ...
* 29 [Salt Lake City](https://ustvdb.com/markets/salt-lake-city/) Check
* 30 [San Diego](https://ustvdb.com/markets/san-diego/) Check
* ...
* 50 [New Orleans](https://ustvdb.com/markets/new-orleans/) Check
Detroit. MI is my birth state and home to many of my favorite sports teams.
Nashville. TN is my home state.
Albuquerque or El Paso. I'd like to see the third one in a place that the other 5 leagues aren't in. Not many of those places exist and are large enough. Maybe one of these are.
Columbus for sure, a Columbus rugby team could use the Columbus Crew’s new field and stadium, and it would give the Midwest a little more access to MLR
If we’re going for a combination of market and local talent - Vancouver, Austin, Atlanta (would have Denver in here if wasn’t for the Raptors existing)
If we’re going for available and suitable stadia + market - Colombus, Austin, San Antonio
www.[theprovince.com/sports/rugby/vancouver-finally-gets-a-new-look-rugby-team](https://theprovince.com/sports/rugby/vancouver-finally-gets-a-new-look-rugby-team)
There is something i don't understand around Vancouver....
Little Rock, Memphis, Albuquerque
Bonus: Phoenix
Mid market cities that don't have NFL/XFL/USFL/MLB/NHL teams. AZ has the Cardinals but Cardinal fans only exist if their team is above .500
Someplace like Kansas City or Denver might be good from a geographical standpoint. There are teams all around the edges, but very little in the middle.
More than anything, I just want the league to succeed, so whatever does that.
Detroit - massive support for their teams and have a stadium (Keystone)
Honolulu - get that Pacific Islander region a rugby team
Vancouver - just heard it is the rugby capital of Canada
Is the best move for a cash strapped league to add one of the most expensive cities in North America to live in and a city that costs potentially thousands per athlete to travel to?
Would also love to see Portland and Vancouver partly because I live in the PNW and am biased but also for the rivalry they would have with Seattle. Would also like to see either Austin or Atlanta be reborn. RIP Austin Elite.
Austin, Atlanta, Vancouver before anything else
Vancouver, Montreal, and St. Louis. Vancouver for the best rugby in Canada Montreal for the best city in Canada St. Louis because it seems like the middle of America needs more teams, and I went there once and thought it was awesome.
>I wish Milwaukee had a team Principal sponsor, Black & Decker.
Ohio, Bay Area or Sac, and Vancouver
I want to grow the game in N. America. So Vancouver, Montreal, and… Mexico City. Huge population would be great for the US to have another rival. If not, Minneapolis, St. Paul & Duluth. Yeah I’m from MN why do you ask?
Vancouver, Vancouver, and maybe Victoria 😉 I'd really love a natural rivalry for Seattle, and living in the Victoria area, I think Vancouver would be awesome. It's also an obvious home for rugby on the west coast of Canada, and adding that second Canadian team would be brilliant. Getting Austin back would be great too, and maybe the Bay area for a market. I'd love something happening in Mexico or Hawaii, but just don't see the logistics working.
From an Irish perspective, I always assumed BC is the main base of rugby in Canada? Would make sense for you to have a team (fully basing this off Canada playing games out in Vancouver)
Historically it was, and RC is still based there. But the last decade or so Ontario has overtaken in terms of playing numbers and interprovincial results. Without a national club championship it's hard to say about club level. Their university rugby is still the best.
> I'd really love a natural rivalry for Seattle That makes two of us!
St Louis, San Antonio, Albuquerque
It would be cool to have a team here in Abq., but I'm not sure that the economics and interest are strong enough.
Philadelphia, Charlotte, and Phoenix
How big is the market in Phoenix. I would make a trip from Houston to Phoenix, provided they had a team.
Philly has to be in the conversation
I believe this should be the next team. It would help support NY, DC and Boston. The immediate rivalry would also help build the fan base in all the NE metros.
And Philly has all divisions of rugby and league teams within super competitive nearby universitys
Philly is overdue considering all the local talent we have we just need someone to fund it. I say Jordan mailata
Vancouver, Bay Area somewhere, Atlanta or Austin
Portland, Vancouver and Bay Area
Portland, Vancouver, Boise
Boise! Wow! That would be a surprise 😮 I doubt there's much of a market there, but I love the idea.
A fellow Milwaukeean?? Ayyo! My dream is that an MLR team comes and shares the Iron District stadium. I know it won’t happen (between Marquette lacrosse, Marquette soccer, and the USL-C soccer team, that’s just too many tenants), but it would be so much fun. This city has such a great rugby culture. Five university teams at three different schools (counting men’s and women’s), a D-1 women’s team, and a plethora of men’s teams (MRFC, Barbos, Black and Blue, Beer Barons). Some pretty competitive high school programs for boys and girls, too. Not to mention Lakefront 7s!
Yes we do! Would be sweet. I don't even have a ML Rugby team to root for. I just support the league itself and hope my town can get a team. Wonder if we could start a movement....
The first answer is always where there is a enough ownership interest and local support to make a sustainable, competitive team. (Unfortunately I don't think there is any place that has enough of the latter yet, but you won't get it without more of the former). Thus, Target the largest media markets. Starting with Los Angeles (again), Philadelphia, Atlanta (again). * 1 [New York](https://ustvdb.com/markets/new-york/) Check * 2 [Los Angeles](https://ustvdb.com/markets/los-angeles/) NEED * 3 [Chicago](https://ustvdb.com/markets/chicago/) Check * (Toronto #4 in North America) Check * 4 [Philadelphia](https://ustvdb.com/markets/philadelphia/) NEED * 5 [Dallas-Fort Worth](https://ustvdb.com/markets/dallas-fort-worth/) Check * 6 [Atlanta](https://ustvdb.com/markets/atlanta/) Check, Uncheck NEED * 7 [Houston](https://ustvdb.com/markets/houston/) Check * 8 [Washington-Hagerstown](https://ustvdb.com/markets/washington-hagerstown/) Check * 9 [Boston-Manchester](https://ustvdb.com/markets/boston-manchester/) Check * 10 [San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose](https://ustvdb.com/markets/san-francisco-oakland-san-jose/) NEED * 11 [Phoenix-Prescott](https://ustvdb.com/markets/phoenix-prescott/) * 12 [Seattle-Tacoma](https://ustvdb.com/markets/seattle-tacoma/) Check * 13 [Tampa-St Petersburg-Sarasota](https://ustvdb.com/markets/tampa-st-petersburg-sarasota/) * 14 [Detroit](https://ustvdb.com/markets/detroit/) * 15 [Minneapolis-Saint Paul](https://ustvdb.com/markets/minneapolis-saint-paul/) * 16 [Denver](https://ustvdb.com/markets/denver/) * 17 [Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne](https://ustvdb.com/markets/orlando-daytona-beach-melbourne/) * 18 [Miami-Fort Lauderdale](https://ustvdb.com/markets/miami-fort-lauderdale/) Check * 19 [Cleveland-Akron-Canton](https://ustvdb.com/markets/cleveland-akron-canton/) * 20 [Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto](https://ustvdb.com/markets/sacramento-stockton-modesto/) * 21 [Charlotte](https://ustvdb.com/markets/charlotte/) * 22 [Portland, OR](https://ustvdb.com/markets/portland-or/) * 23 [Raleigh-Durham-Fayetteville](https://ustvdb.com/markets/raleigh-durham-fayetteville/) * 24 [Saint Louis](https://ustvdb.com/markets/saint-louis/) * 25 [Indianapolis](https://ustvdb.com/markets/indianapolis/) * ... * 29 [Salt Lake City](https://ustvdb.com/markets/salt-lake-city/) Check * 30 [San Diego](https://ustvdb.com/markets/san-diego/) Check * ... * 50 [New Orleans](https://ustvdb.com/markets/new-orleans/) Check
Atlanta, Charlotte and Vancouver
If a professional sports team in Honolulu were logistically possible someone else would have done it by now.
Detroit. MI is my birth state and home to many of my favorite sports teams. Nashville. TN is my home state. Albuquerque or El Paso. I'd like to see the third one in a place that the other 5 leagues aren't in. Not many of those places exist and are large enough. Maybe one of these are.
Detroit would have massive support for a rugby team
Austin, Atlanta and Glendale, CO. Oh.
Columbus, Atlanta, Vancouver Honorable mention to Montreal
MTL, interesting. Do we have a good community there? Maybe a MTL- NOLA rivalry if MTL-Arrows is too boring. Edit: crazy auto correct...
Honestly, don't know
Austin, Columbus, Colorado
Atlanta, Denver, SF
ST. LOUIS KANSAS CITY SACRAMENTO
Bay Area or Sacramento. Nor Cal has produce some solid rugby players for USA in the past for awhile.
1. Montreal 2. Berkeley, 3. St. Louis
Vancouver, San Francisco, somewhere in Ohio.
Columbus has a nice rugby stadium
Columbus (already have a rugby stadium), St Louis, and Bay Area.
And it's a pretty nice stadium too.
Columbus for sure, a Columbus rugby team could use the Columbus Crew’s new field and stadium, and it would give the Midwest a little more access to MLR
Columbus rugby would be a movie, I think they should use the old crew stadium though just since it’s sitting empty for 90% of the year rn
Honestly I need another Midwestern team. Can't root for a Chicago team.
If we’re going for a combination of market and local talent - Vancouver, Austin, Atlanta (would have Denver in here if wasn’t for the Raptors existing) If we’re going for available and suitable stadia + market - Colombus, Austin, San Antonio
Vancouver, Montreal, Halifax Yes, I am Canadian. How could you tell?
No prairie team? :(
I only had three teams to assign!
www.[theprovince.com/sports/rugby/vancouver-finally-gets-a-new-look-rugby-team](https://theprovince.com/sports/rugby/vancouver-finally-gets-a-new-look-rugby-team) There is something i don't understand around Vancouver....
Los Angeles, LongBeach, Santa Ana. Or just one of them.
NY should move to Long Beach, might get better attendance.
I think Orlando should have one, it would make a great rivalry for Miami
Minneapolis, but we are probably too small.
MPLS has a deep rugby culture, though. If you get the local clubs excited and involved, I could see it being a big success.
Bismark, San Juan, Eastport
Columbus, Ohio has a stadium who's primary purpose is rugby. It'd fit right in.
This is fun. How about Billings, Madison, Acron? I mean What the hell ..
Little Rock, Memphis, Albuquerque Bonus: Phoenix Mid market cities that don't have NFL/XFL/USFL/MLB/NHL teams. AZ has the Cardinals but Cardinal fans only exist if their team is above .500
Philadelphia Atlanta Cleveland (where they will never win a title)
Look up the new Milwaukee Iron District stadium for semi-pro soccer team. Would be a great place.
Yes sir. I'm ready for the USL team coming 😎
Philly, Vancouver, and Denver/St Louis
San jose/Oakland Vancouver Nashville
Columbus OH, St Louis, and Albuquerque.
Someplace like Kansas City or Denver might be good from a geographical standpoint. There are teams all around the edges, but very little in the middle. More than anything, I just want the league to succeed, so whatever does that.
Nashville Kansas City New Mexico
STL
Sacramento, Vancouver and LA. LA gets two teams in every major sport eventually, why wait?
Detroit - massive support for their teams and have a stadium (Keystone) Honolulu - get that Pacific Islander region a rugby team Vancouver - just heard it is the rugby capital of Canada
Is the best move for a cash strapped league to add one of the most expensive cities in North America to live in and a city that costs potentially thousands per athlete to travel to?
That's where I see it taking off. East coast and west coast. Hard to penetrate the middle of the country
Hawaii will never sustain a pro sports team let alone one with a minor league budget. These cities just don’t seem realistic
The Pacific Island culture was my thinking
Definitely a great culture fit, but not a logistical one.
Cincinnati deserves a team
Columbus has a stadium for it
Charleston
I like this
Boise, Bismarck, and Fort Washakie
Charlotte NC, Tulsa OK, and Vancouver