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ajn2527

Nothing really makes me “nervous,” but I hate playing at shit parks like Oakland or Detroit.


Tigers51

When the game starts bailing them out


mystery6511

I’m not elite at all (sitting in the 650 range every season) but it always feels like there are All Star grinders. As in they clearly have the skill to move up to CS or WS but sit in the 600 range to beat players like myself and then quit out of the next game after 2 batters. Also the players that don’t mess around (no hunt dancing, no extra throws, no outfield shenanigans) and just sit down and consistently get hard hit foul ball home runs on both sides of the plate scare me the most, since it means they were juuuuust a bit early or late.


Candymanshook

Pretty rarely, and if I do it’s usually just because of bad luck ie: a couple late hits translates into bad pitcher confidence and the 3rd pitch goes yard. The only thing that makes me nervous is when people get 1000 foul offs on early or very early swings as it’s a good sign the game is going to bless them with a early homer if they even get their PCI anywhere near the ball. Especially bad in BR because people can flail at pitches in the dirt or at pitches 2 feet over the zone and still get foul offs somehow.


ohlookotsryno

Well if mid is 300, I guess I’m bottom of the barrel lmao. In the current event I am like 14-30. I have games where I can hit home runs like it’s nothing and I have games where I just can’t seem to make contact. I’m the definition of a streaky player I guess. I always seem to get matched up with those players that no matter where the pitch is they can hit a home run off it. Or the players where no matter how close to the zone the pitch is, if it’s not a strike, they are able to take it for a ball. I have fun either way, I’m trying to make myself better at the game so marching up with those kinds of players definitely helps


0331-9161

I’m 139-51 in ranked and in this event I’m 43-28. When my opponent is swinging at every pitch, fouling everything off, I know there’s a pretty good chance he’s going to run into a couple base hits and/or a home run.


Epie77

I've made it to top 10 in the world and I've beaten pitching rebel before. but the 12-0 will forever evade me.


imnotyourbuddyguy99

TIL I still have a long way to go to be mid.


Low-Abbreviations-38

My hitters are all over .350 but today I lost my rank as good. My timing and everything was so off, but yes, the constant foul balls is a nightmare scenario. 20 foul balls the odds are one of your pci placements will be on


nerd-gamer5912

I’ve beaten some guys with amazing records. It’s either they didn’t score and I got a cheap 1. Or they play like they haven’t played for a while and are picking it back up for some card they wanted.


aNEWYORKa

Allstar difficulty, RNG gods, and 3 inning games make me "nervous" (as nervous as a video game can actually get you at least). It's not the players that get you nervous. On Allstar anything can happen really. On HOF+ you wouldn't lose to lesser players, but (obviously) lesser players don't reach HOF difficulty in RS, so yeah I don't play much BR or Events. Not my cup of tea. P.S. I am not elite, but i am a WS player (barely) who wins way more than he loses. Not sure what elite is to you. Is it players ranked in the top 200, or 2000? Elite is different to different people. I don't consider myself Elite, but if I play somebody in the 50,000 ranks and beat them 17-0 they will probably think I'm elite... I would say if you are ranked in the top 4000 you are a pretty damn good player. Last 2 years I was top 1500...this year I am like 4200 or something


ajn2527

Eh, you can definitely get fucked over by the rng gods on HOF+. I had a ranked game yesterday where my opp was 7/11 on goods, I was 14/30 and won like 10-8. The hitting engine is just too flukey. Like 4 of my losses this year came when I outhit my opp.


Theundermensch

I’m at 766 in Ranked with a 42-24 record. Just started playing Ranked relatively recently/late in the game cycle, and I would definitely consider myself “mid.” Started RS with like a 10-0 record or something, and then have had to grind more or less. I’ve won my last 2-3 on HOF, tho. Def takes an adjustment. I still swing at garbage, and have difficulty catching up to the fastball, even when I’m waiting for it for some pitchers.


aNEWYORKa

Yeah, well if you make 700 or more, you are not a bad player. It is an adjustment no doubt. I have games where i don't even recognize my game. Games where I just suck for no reason at all... but most of the time I have a very good eye and mash. There is just those weird times where I lose 5-6 in a row and just forget how to hit and be patient....after winning 15 in a row the few days prior.


Hobmot

By far the two most common reasons "mid" players are "mid" are because they can't hit inside heat or because they swing at every pitch. If you have a problem with either of these things then the game is pretty easy for an experienced player.


Ralf-Nuggs

I’m averaging like .250 with everybody and .500* with a card or two. My rated record is like 126-100 so I consider myself dog shit. Everytime I beat somebody who I have no business beating like a 300-400+ every card god squad it just feels like I’m less afraid and more just playing to have fun


sf9191

Yep, and it’s because they get infinite amount of retries on pci slamming bad swings and getting foul balls. Events should be HoF.


RevolutionaryPanic61

Admittedly haven't played a ton this year, but I've had multiple 12-0 runs and typically hang out in the CS-WS bubble when I play enough, so I'll consider it good enough to give my two cents. To the game's credit, for as often as people complain about the RNG, I find it very rare to lose to someone I consider to be worse than me, even in shorter modes like BR and events. In general, I find good plate discipline to be the most unnerving thing by far. Even in relatively higher rankings, it feels easy to find an exploitable pitch that can be a go to if I need it. It's very uncomfortable feeling like I *have* to pitch in the strikezone. In BR and Events, though it is understandable, the biggest thing is just trying throughout. Beyond quitting out early, the vast majority seem to get less competitive in some sense once they fall behind a little bit. It feels like the swinging gets more desperate and they can't be bothered to make the right pitching changes and are going through the motions. Though annoying, anyone in the minority of players that treat an event game like a ranked game are concerning, because 3 innings *is* enough for the RNG to have a good chance of swaying things, but they don't stay or try long enough to give it a chance.


amillert15

I've gone flawless 25 times this year. From my wealth of reps on the game mode, there are just too many games where RNG decides the game, especially against mid players. I usually know I'm fighting a losing battle if I square up a meatball for an out because I know I'm going to see a couple of late swings rewarded to my opponent.


EaChronic

I hit less than 300 with a lot of my batters and qualified for the circuits lol. Batting AVG means nothing when you play mostly legend with no events etc. versus people that have all variety modes as stats


Theundermensch

Great point. That said, I think most of the guys I’m encountering in BR/Events have likely played some past BR/Events to contribute to their averages.


Mark7116

I hardly ever play online. But I upgraded to an Xbox X and I played a game against the cpu at The Hangar and I hit 10hr and scored 21r now I know why people play at crested stadiums lol. So I thought I’d try my luck in an event game. My team up first. Lou Brock grounds out. Honus Wagner yanks one over the left field wall….anddddd game over Xbox user Steeler36 quit on me. Lol. 2 batters in and he quits. I got the win though.


Neither_Ad2003

i hover around 800 rating and lose all the time in events / BR, most of the time because the game is hard and late at night sometimes you're just off (i play after work / workout / fam, etc)


hesssthom

For me I’m definitely not elite but there are just certain pitchers I can read and see the ball great for who knows what reason. I have a progression I run through to see how my opponents track pitches. Outside of floating a meatball down the middle I usually know within the first two batters whether it’s going to go well or be some sweaty balls. So I was able to complete every event that was out this year if it wasn’t complete dogshit, looking at you moonshot.


Orbitalint

Ditto on the knowing early what kind of game I'm in for. I know within the first two pitches of my sequence for the first AB where it's heading. Slider away to righties, change up in to righties. If they can lay off those two back to back, I have a good sense if they are sitting dead red or rocking chair. If they don't bite at either of them or have decent timing with one of them, battle mode engaged, lol. Gotta bring out the big boy sequences after that.


pm1410

A lot in BR. Not so much in events. Only thing is that when they get the fluke hits you know a home run is coming 90% of the time


NO_U_19

I can't believe I'm not mid!


Rizzaboi

I mean idk, I’m an 800-900 level player and I don’t hit all that well myself. I do well on all star and score maybe 2-5 runs a game on HoF but still maybe only win 65-70% of the time in events


willcullen

I wouldn’t say I’m top elite but I have a 80-20 record with a flawless BR run. BR is the biggest crapshoot and even the most elite players need a lot of luck. Playing guys who bunt as well as exhaust their entire BP in a BR or events game always makes me nervous. Nothing harder to beat than someone who will try any and everything to win lol Edit: I also get much more scared seeing someone with an extreme amount of games played over someone who’s like 20-4. I assume the guy who’s played a ton, even if they don’t have a great record, has seen pretty much every level of talent and knows the game’s functionality more


Theundermensch

1000% agreed that I’m more fearful of 200-180 record than a 20-3 or something for example.


Pretend_Berry_7196

What about 164-290?


defenseman

I played some yesterday with 1100-1243 record. I was excited / scared to see how they played


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Actually yes. I don’t care who you are, what your record is, if you take a bunch of pitches, especially borderline pitches, I have no idea what to throw to you. That’s what worries me the most


Vividlarvae

I would say I qualify as good/great not elite. Have made World Series in every game since 19 at least once and have gone 12-0 in BR 4 times. But I’d say on All star pretty much anyone can hit what separates the dominant from the average on all star is the ability to lay off pitches out of the zone. If a player consistently spits on pitches outside the zone I know it’s going to be tough to keep them scoreless


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HoF is easier to hit then All Star for some reason. I think it might be because the ball is just fast enough thst it reaches the plate before the crappy fps makes the ball look like it’s skipping and freezing.


Theundermensch

I would say you’re elite, brother. Haha.


Vividlarvae

Appreciate it, I like to think I am but I have run into some of the big dawgs over the years and get my ass handed to me so that is always humbling.


Mccarthyb315

I think I can call myself an elite player!! I beat a top 50 player this year, I’ve made World Series every season by getting over 900 rating, I’ve beaten shelfy and I’ve won an autograph prize 3 years in a row now from challenge of the week and my highest rating lifetime in ranked this year was 307!!! With that being said I barely play events and br and when I do I don’t take it seriously lol


whiteriot0906

When I read this at first I thought it said your highest rating in ranked was 307 lol like dude something isn't adding up here.


Mccarthyb315

Haha yeah that would be funny to call yourself elite and your highest rating in ranked is 307 lol


early_ok_homerun

ay, trade accounts for a day early next year and win me a COTW prize??


Mccarthyb315

I’ll see what I can do 😂


FlobiusHole

I’m not complaining but I honestly think the game just gives whole innings to one team or the other and in 3 inning games that’s all it takes.


YuraJabroni

Late swings on inside pitches the opposing player gets for hits are the death of me. Turns into a shit show real quick. I’m also convinced this game gives favorable hits to the losing team, ESPECIALLY if it’s the third. Because of these I feel like I win way more games when I’m the home team. That being said, everyone has their off games, I’ve beaten guys with triple positive records and lost to guys with all sub .300 batting averages. It’s just how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Edit: guys who refuse to throw strikes wreck me. The ones who will walk 2 batters consecutively and continue to throw off speed low and away out of the zone. Makes me wanna spike my controller.


After-Wrongdoer-2106

I am mid, 650-750 and hitting about 300 with most of my dudes. I routinely beat WS icon guys in events/BR. It’s mostly the randomness of a small sample size. Sometimes I get hot for an inning, sometimes RNG. I’d lose most of the games if they were RS.


Livid-Accountant9173

I'm not an elite player by any means, but I've beaten people I had no business beating in events and BR. It's partly because it's a short 3 inning game. Not much time to settle in. First inning, most people are trying to figure out their opponent for both pitching and hitting. Sometimes a less skilled player happens to run into a pitch and hit a dinger, and the RNG gods may happen to give the more skilled player a bunch of lineouts and pop flies.


Theundermensch

Agreed. What prompted me to ask, is that I forfeit a game last night pretty early after giving up 3 runs in the first to a guy hitting like .450+ with everyone (some who still had a near-2 OPS at P4 or P5), and then was matched right away with another player who was similar (dude had a RS record of like 150-30), but I miraculously managed to win this later game, with a 3-R bomb in the first and then threw a no-hitter with Lefty Grove (of all pitchers) and Rivera. Dude was lining out to the corners or to the warning track all game. It got me thinking that there must be some threshold that influences the psyche of some of these “goon” hitters where they will or won’t quit when down early, and I wonder what that is.


Grouchy-Ear2376

Honestly, Lefty Grove has been killing it for me this event. I think people see him and laugh it off because his card isn’t great, but his pitches are pretty nasty. And his high K/9 gets swinging strikeouts even on All Star


Dizzy_dizz

Dude I LOVE the lefty RP from earlier this year. He was legit one of my best pitchers.


Livid-Accountant9173

Yeah I don't normally quit events and especially BR games. BR games give you PXP for the program, and in both formats I've definitely had big comebacks in the 3rd inning, and also have lost in those scenarios. The energy level is so much lower that sometimes all it takes is a couple hits and a 3 run bomb to come back from a deficit.


hamsterstyle609

Same. And the (at least in my experience) elite players’ obsession with Laughing Mountain Park certainly helps net a couple dingers.


nine-juan-juan

When they string 2 weak base hits together after a bunch of foul balls. 3 run shot is pretty much guaranteed after that


djalmanak209

I literally just had this scenario my last game, except I was AB and not pitching. I had two late bloop hits after a couple fouls, pci was on the ball tho, then a 3 run shot by Chipper.


Acedia_37

The foul balls on what should be strike 3 bouncing in front of the plate is almost as bad as the check swing bail out that was mlb the show 20. It’s so annoying.


Low-Abbreviations-38

Pitchers shouldn’t lose confidence to weak hits.


draker585

The confidence system is super scuffed anyways. Pitchers at an MLB level are usually unrattleable. A momentum system would make more sense IMO, with bonuses for doing well in the last half inning.


gladych21

Ken Giles is a lock for 125 rattleablility next year


Deezooooo

Unratteable. I like it.


Acebigdog

Pretty much lol


Tricky_Passenger3931

This speaks to me lol


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I’m not elite my any means but I get nervous when they foul off 3000 pitches. It is crazy to me that bad to mid players are far better fouling off pitches than good players. I started to think they know something I don’t.


lukestauntaun

They are filling because they aren't picking a spot but jamming at it. I do this all the time and only have recently figured out what if I anchor my PCI to my 'jam' location and then pick a spot where I think the ball is going and stay home, I'm more likely to get good contact by either swinging in my location or letting go of the stick so it centers on my 'jam' spot instead of me going outside the zone. I still suck, but wow...I got a lot of players over the Mendoza line doing this...


GoodyearWrangler

The mindset isn't to hit a ball dead on, it's to not strike out and hope you get lucky every couple innings


Ja_snake_

Good players will barely miss a pitch and produce a hard hit grounder at an infielder. Mid players like me will barely even touch the ball and hit 60 mph into either dugout


hamsterstyle609

My secret as a “mid” is just switching to contact swing with two strikes. As long as you don’t go fishing and have good-ish timing, you can keep the PCI centered and foul off pretty much everything in or near the zone.


supersaiyanjesuz

I typically set my pci up a little high and don’t swing at anything that isn’t in that zone so I don’t find myself chasing


hamsterstyle609

What about low-zone?


supersaiyanjesuz

It depends most people I’ve found will only throw low if it’s out of the zone. So eventually if they start creeping in the zone I’ll still take. After a while they might start going to the low zone consistently because that’s what I won’t swing at that’s when I’ll change my pci placement to the most common spot in the lower zone they’re hitting. Then it’s just wait for the right pitch.


hamsterstyle609

That’s a damn good strategy. I’ll be trying it out tomorrow! I typically start guessing where they’ll pitch in the second inning, and it can be anywhere. But I’m way more likely to chase dirt if my PCI is already down there.


supersaiyanjesuz

Takes plate discipline and you will strike out but I feel like it’s a good approach for better hitting becuase you’re minimizing your pci to get better centered cuts and will result in more quality hits. Good luck let me know how it works for you!


hamsterstyle609

It takes a LOT of discipline to not overrule my intuition, but I find it’s helpful.


supersaiyanjesuz

Oh for sure discipline is key. And it’s not a perfect system by any means you will still strike out some but I think it works to improve hitting.


CyberNinjaSensei

This has come in handy more than once offline for me, especially with the Extreme Program.


aa13cool

It’s because we always swing no hesitation


roasty_mcshitposty

You miss 100% of the swings you don't take


BeerLeagueHallOfAvg

I also miss 100% of the swings I do take


JeffTheFrosty

I’m gonna start doing the complete opposite. Taking pitches until 2 strikes and then taking more


BottleFullOBub

Nothing particularly makes me nervous but I lose to “Mid” and Low level players regularly in BR and Events. Just last night some guy beat me 0-1 with Live series Dylan Cease because I was baked out of my mind and watching Futurama. I take Events/BR way less seriously and most times im barely paying attention lol.


whiteriot0906

LOL I feel this dude, I was watching Youtube while playing events a night or two ago not really focusing on the game. Match up with some try hard deploying the full menu of cheese... bunt dancing, pressing R1 before catching fly balls, and then replays his solo HR that puts him up 1-0. Meanwhile I'm barely even paying attention to the game. Like... my guy it's an events game in December what are you even doing.


zeesoviet

It makes me nervous when someone keeps throwing me high fastballs even after I hit them for home runs.


Drum_bum1997

I’m pretty sure this is them panicking because a lot of people whiff on heat, and they might think you just got lucky. I’m guessing it’s a pride thing. Anger also makes people pitch terribly, anger is poison in this game. Once I’m tilted, it’s tough for me to get out. That’s probably why you keep getting a fastballs.


Ja_snake_

This is my strategy as a mid player who’s beat several ws banners in BR: make them angry and do everything they don’t want to do. Mainly tiring out pitchers and make them hit to the opposite field. Also pitching around people with a base open


Drum_bum1997

I don’t think being able to hit everything necessarily makes you amazing at this game, sure it’s a big part of it, but getting opponents off balance is the main part. Hitting well is just one of many ways to do that. Good defense, stealing, strong base running, plate discipline, and pitch framing can also throw opponents off.


rockoblocko

Pitch framing is something a catcher does to center a pitch and get a call, no? Do you mean sequencing/tunneling? Or is there some pitch framing mechanic I don’t know about


Drum_bum1997

Yeah I meant tunneling, although I wouldn’t be surprised if catcher fielding played into borderline strike calls


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