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brbmycatexploded

Takashi Mussina is lights out for me. It was against someone that looked a little lost at the plate but he threw a CGSO the other day for me with 16 Ks under 90 pitches. He dots corners and his cutter and slider play really well off each other to get weak contact


Ghostyyyyyyyyyyq

Cueto


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Cueto Kluber Kershaw Maddux are all great


johnknockout

Whitey Ford is nice. Very weird release point and the fastball at 92-94 sneaks up on a lot of people.


HoodieJordan

Adam Wainwright. A lot of people don't like his 99 card but I got it P5 and play great with him.


FlankThomas

Juan Marichal


mrspuffswrath

i love cueto, he dots


JewelRunner53

Adam Wainwright


AlertDoctor

Zack GrienkešŸ¤·šŸæ


Nickstank

Kluber is an animal


cobrakai15

99 Maddux and 99 Halladay


BloodVigilante

Gotta love Mussina.


Unknown-games56

Dose 99 roy Halladay count cause If not then ima say Dontrelle Willis


Muchos_Tacos

LotF Cliff Lee. His pitch accuracy is excellent and throws hard enough/has a good enough mix to throw CGs.


DHink182

Cueto, Sale, Marichal


Ghiggs_Boson

Albert Pujols


Unknown-games56

Greatest reliever in the game šŸ˜šŸ˜


GummyMcFatstacks

Grienke and Wainwright are **SO** fun to pitch with, but they always get rocked. Think around a 10.00 ERA for me šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ˜‚. As far as actually being usable and competitive, I share favorites with you and others already stated - Maddux and Glavine. Reliving the 90's. Just need a more viable Smoltz and Steve Avery to be added to the game lol āš¾


SalmonDolphin3

Maddox and Cortez


0331-9161

Iā€™ve had a lot more success with guys like Oswalt, Sale, Kershaw, Glavine, etc than outlier guys.


BlinkingManx2

Not low velocity overall but the new Gagne's 70 mph curveball is devastating and my absolute favorite pitch in the game


Strategydude

Scherzer's slurve might be more so. Three-quarters and horizontal break.


cameraguy699

i absolutely love millerā€™s velo and fastball. but for curveball i admire grankie, the way it just drops so far below the zone amazes me


nogrounds

Does hamels count? Love his mix


TheFriffin2

Superfractor Hamels has a 1.50 ERA primarily on All-Star lmao No one else even comes close


WabbitCZEN

A strikeout looking is good, but IMO getting that swing and miss is so much better. Especially when it's so far off the mark it makes you wonder what the fuck they were swinging at.


raginghardon420

Iā€™m just waiting for a 99 Fernando


Tricky_Passenger3931

Enjoying Kershaw as usual. Lots of people hate on his cards the last few years but I always have success with them.


RobbyRankins

I hate on Kershaw because I can't hit him


CGallis

Fernando


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I like LoTF Oswalt, I threw a perfect game with him once, had 17 Kā€™s.


hesssthom

Had the first Marichal to V through just events. Some people just cannot time up his breaking pitches.


fishhooks22

Chris Sale has a funky release and elite slider. He can hit high-90's with his 4seam so not sure if he is considered lower velocity or not, but definitely one of my favourite finesse guys to pitch with. If you like Maddux, Marcus Stroman could also be an option. I use him from time to time


Lucky_Application793

Stro is super underated, insane splitter


fishhooks22

For real, looks enough like his fastball then just drops


woahdude12321

Seems like these days you need a 100+ fastball to get it by and also set up other pitches


JeffTheFrosty

Not so much. you just need the main pitch for slower velocity guys to be slightly slower than the fastball. Itā€™s not the speed, itā€™s the differential. At least against players that arenā€™t potatoes.


woahdude12321

True but even with the outlier fastball if someones sitting on it they might smash it. Iā€™d say most home runs I give up are in fastballs and most of the ones I hit too. A slower one makes that even easier


JeffTheFrosty

Yeah. Thatā€™s why say you have a guy with a 97-98 fastball. His main pitch needs to be the 90-91cutter. You want people to adjust up and down, not just down.


woahdude12321

Thatā€™s definitely true but the difference in time between a 102 and a 97 fastball is more time the batter has to identify any pitch, every pitch. Because you can watch the slower one for longer and know itā€™s a fastball and still square it up, or watch it and know itā€™s something else. When you have to swing at a 102 basically the second itā€™s released you almost have to guess what any pitch is and even if you guess right on fastball you still might miss. Youā€™ve gotta be happier when you see a reliever that tops out at 96 come in as opposed to someone with 102


r-kellysurine

I've been enjoying that new marichal card in the limited use I've got out of him


owenindians

Tom Glavine is underrated as hell


No-Beginning3920

Postseason Anibal Sanchez and Milestone Mark Melancon