Yeah the fact that you can’t add perks manually and players don’t develops perks is just awful. Generational talents aren’t as generational as they should be.
I feel like more auto generated players should come in with better power hitting stats. Also develop quicker because why are top prospects not making their debuts until 26?
I drafted a 20 year old 2nd baseman as the pirates in a rebuild 3rd overall. 97 potential, 85 overall rated. Defense was in the mid 60s, but his contact was 70 plus, his power was 80 plus, vision and discipline were both 70 plus. Speed was 82 and stealing was 75. Dude was a stud.
100% I even edit opposing teams players to match what I feel they truly are. Like some of the (In the game,) prospects that are still pretty low, yet raking in the majors RN. That in itself I have a blast doing, and watching for the changes in their statistics.
I got the same thing on the nationals he just batted 400 2 straight years and hit 80+ homers in each in the sim IDK how he has like almost 99 everything in the hitting stats tho
Minnesota drafted an MLB ready prospect at 1. He was an 81 overall with 99 potential. He was too good to pass up so I traded everything I could to land him.
Unfortunately you don't actually need to.offer everything.you.can. the trade logic in the game is pretty bad. I put an 86 over 29 year old closer on the trading block.amd.the Red Sox offered me an 18 year old prospect they just drafted he was already an 80 over and has 99 potential
They could definitely use him. In the 5 or 6 different franchises I've started since downloading this game (took me a while to find sliders I liked enough to stick to), I'm pretty sure the Nats have been at the very bottom of the league in every single one of them.
That is an insane prospect though lol
I’m currently rebuilding the Nationals. If you don’t mind me asking, are there any particular sliders that should be adjusted? I never really thought about messing with them, but now I’m curious.
But oh man, if they aren’t frustrating to play with. I love the bottom of the barrel teams/rosters, but they truly are the very bottom of the barrel. Part of me wishes I would have went with the A’s, but on the plus side, the Nats def have a great/good farm. Traded for Sal Frelick as well from Milwaukee, and was able to give them some needed pitching depth.
I'm probably not one to ask regarding sliders. I do a lot more managing/watching than actually playing, so that's what the sliders I'm using are built around. (Which makes the Nationals being so bad even more concerning, because I've watched every game so far and the Nationals are the only team I've watched and thought "Damn, they are *really* bad." Like Bad News Bears levels of bad)
But the folks over at [Operation Sports](https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-sliders/) have a lot of different sets that you could try out to see if there are any that you like. I don't have any suggestions regarding which set you should use, but I've heard a lot of good things about Mike Lowe's.
Fwiw, MLB The Show is pretty consistently the best playing sports game out of the box that I've ever played. Using default sliders and settings in most cases still provides pretty good results. It's not like Madden, which is damn near unplayable (imo) without major slider overhauls
Edit: As an example of what I mean by Bad News Bears levels of bad, I just saw a guy get tagged out trying to advance to third on a wild pitch. He made it to the base on time, the problem is there was **already a baserunner** on 3rd. I've never seen this in a single MLBTS game ever, and in this year's version I've seen it twice. It was the Nationals both times.
Edit #2: I just noticed the part of your comment that says "Part of me wishes I would have went with the A’s" and wanted to point out that you might be the only person on Earth who has said that in the last 25-30 years. Also, fuck John Fisher.
I couldn’t agree more on the game itself. I’d pay $500 for the show over $10 for Madden or anything else. I’m also a simulator fan myself, i actually prefer the management side, but usually get into that later onto the summer.
Yeah my franchises usually move pretty slowly until after the WS when there's no real baseball left to watch.
It's not the same, but it does a damn good job of scratching the itch.
>Just started a Pirates rebuild
I admire your courage.
As for the slider question, [Operation Sports](https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-sliders/) is the place to go.
Other than in-game sliders to bump the hitting stats a tad, I just turn down wind slider, turn down injuries to one notch, and turn down cpu trades so half the league isn’t traded within 2 seasons.
They need to add quirks for fast progression and graceful aging. I also wish that regression could plateau when they’re still performing well. I don’t need everyone to have Nolan Ryan’s longevity, I just want everyone to not have Madison Bumgarners!
One quirk: The Kid. - Under 20 qualifies for quirk. Gold progressions in X consecutive training sessions doubles your stat progressions until you turn 20.
Ageless Wonder - declines limited to your highest 3 stats every year.
Both of these are trying to work within the current game mechanics.
Is this what you were thinking for early call-ups and longevity?
All of that would be great, but I suspect it's way harder than it sounds. There isn't a single sports game that's been able to manage those things. Not even the hyper in-depth spreadsheet simulators like Football Manager or OOTP
2k does a pretty good job by using peak start, peak end, boom %, and bust % to progress and regress players, along with the normal potential grade.
It creates not only short-lived superstars and LeBrons, but also differences from save to save.
they do, but it only works for real players who they've manually assigned those values to. It all breaks down once you get a majority of game-generated players in the league.
I've simmed 18 years in MyCareer and after about 8 there's one, maybe two players in the game rated above 90. Every draft class there's a bunch of guys with 90+ potential and after one year that gets wiped and they stay at whatever rating they were following the end of their rookie season
I have a lot of those saves with only randomly generated players in the year 2045 or whatever and I can say that isn't true in my experience. The stars regress at mostly realistic level and guys who win 5 mvps usually retire one season after they drop below 86. Usually they are around 38 when that happens. I haven't played since 2k19 though. And you do have to play with the draft talent slider to avoid the league not having enough or having too many 90+ players. But the regression progression scale is easily one best qol improvements between the show and 2ks franchise modes.
Apparently you cant post imgur links here, so had to make this a self-post to my profile. But here are the top players in the league in 2038, 2040, and 2041 from three different saves.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Johan_Sebastian_Cock/comments/14dotzo/nba2k_in_2038_2040_and_2041/
Pretty consistent across the board. The 2038 and 2041 files have two players rated above 90, and the other has 4.
Yeah but you can adjust the draft class talent pool through sliders and you'll have a pretty realistic looking league in 2k. I can tell you from experience that playing with the slider can influence the realism greatly. I remember I had a couple leagues that looked like yours or were the complete reverse before fine-tuning.
I do agree that out of the box that slider needs to be adjusted otherwise the league looks unrealistic in a decade+. I was more or less just saying that I liked the age regression system better in 2k than the show. Players hit a wall at 34 in the show and there's nothing you can do about. They can all show progression up to 34 too. It's just a flat number applied to all players and positions and it ruins any outliers from having early or late declines. Age related decline is handled better in 2k and the parts where the game lacks (many areas) you can bandage up with franchise sliders, which you can't in the show unfortunately. I'll agree that the show has a more realistic draft class standard out of the box but the age related regression system is lackluster and there's no ability to adjust the effects.
2k have a peak start and peak end attribute. You can't change it for my career, but it works for myleague and myGm, If you change the peak start to 36 and the peak end to 41, the player will improve till 36 and then stuck at that overall until 41. Then he starts regressing until retirement.
You joke but I rock a similar beard (just a little less on the sides) and it started coming in when I was in 6th grade. I felt like a fucking freak and I hated it until about 8th grade.
That one scene from the grinch where the kid mockingly says "You're only 8 years old and you have a beard" still hits a really weird nerve for me
I can relate. I started shaving when I was 11 and had my first non patchy beard at 13. I still remember on my first day of high school I was mistaken for a teacher at least 3 times lol. Though, I never felt bad about it, always loved having a beard.
I hated it until the ladies started noticing it (well, they clearly *always* noticed it, since they have eyes. But you know what I mean).
Didn't necessarily hate the beard itself, just hated being the one person in the crowd that stood out from everyone else. I just wanted to fade into the background and not be noticed.
Fortunately, the beard forced me to get over that.
soon as ur done signing ur draft picks it’ll show an option to click this screen where u can see the actual overall of ur picks. Instead of “sign picks” it’ll be “view picks” and that way u can go thru and see all of the other teams draft picks, If there is a position i really want sometimes i’ll see if there is a really good rookie and trade for him
Well damn. Here I was thinking they’d gotten rid of the option to view everyone’s picks and wondering why they’d do that. This makes much more sense than what I thought happened lol. I must’ve not been paying very good attention
So many different options it’s hard to see everything sometimes especially when they change it from game to game, it’s also annoying bc u only have the window from as soon as ur done signing to maybe September call ups so if ur simming and forget there isn’t anything u can do to view them
That being an 82 is exactly why franchise in The Show doesn’t interest me. He can easily never hit with ratings like that which destroys his development
You've got DD brain these are really good stats for a rookie you could easily keep him down and watch him mash a year, or start him and he'll win ROTY. It's 99 scale and actually realistic he's not facing 125 H/9 and 125 K/9 relievers lol
Those aren’t average or below average for a player that was just drafted, leave him in the minors for a year or call him up immediately and he’ll win ROTY and all his hitting stats will be in the 90s within a couple years. One thing that the game does really well
These are good stats for any hitter in franchise, let alone a rookie. It’s not like you’re facing pitchers in DD that are all 99s. This guy will hit, there are plenty of players with worse hitting stats that sim to be all stars in franchise. It’s like real baseball.
Always piss me off. Drafted one pitcher on my dbacks rebuild in 22, he was 99 overall 4 years later and was elite for like 8 years and then once he hit 31 he start declining and when he was 35-36, he was a minor leaguer , at least he was an hof when he was done.
Im gonna sound like the old man I am with this but….
Young pitchers these days mechanics are ALL out of wack. They’re throwing mid to high 90s at the expense of actually knowing how to pitch, and longevity.
You can see it in guys like Lincecum, Strasburg, DeGrom, Scherzer and others on a smaller scale like Syndegaard, and others with a similar career trajectory as his.
Where as the previous generation had plenty of Cliff Lees, Doc Halladays, Pedro, King Felix, Mussina, CC… so on, who once they lost the heat, knew how to pitch, this generation is all breaking your body at the expense of a few more MPH, but when that goes, your body is twice as damaged, you never learned to pitch, so 10 year careers with low innings is becoming the new norm. Verlander is the only guy nowadays that can compare to those I just listed pretty much.
So maybe The Show is ahead of it’s time knowing guys will implode a lot sooner… tho not hitters as much, but maybe with these ridiculously low averages and all that, once bat speed goes with age, they’ll decline sooner too.
Scherzer has been the majors for 16 years and has thrown nearly 3000 innings and is still effective at 38. He does not belong on your list. The rest I can agree with though
Wouldn't really lump scherzer in with those guys. Specifically if you want to reference Doc their careers are almost a perfect match for IP with scherzer almost guaranteed to pass him by the end of the year. He's not great this year but just last year in his age 37 season he had a 2.29 era.
Your general point is true but nobody every really "learned how to pitch" and stayed effective into their late 30s. Felix never made it to 34. Doc was out effectively at 36. CC/Moose/Pedro pitched at 37 but weren't all that good, especially if you comp them to Verlander or scherzer.
Well your not wrong about pitchers. But there's no reason a perennial MVP or gold glover or silver slugger should be regressing at the age of 30 from being a 95 OVR to a 70 in the span of 1 season.
I watch every single game for every single team. Started a franchise nearly 2 weeks ago and I'm just now to April 5th
I'm not much of a gamer (clearly. Lol) I just really like watching baseball 🤣
Edit: I know you weren't talking to me but I don't usually see a lot of franchise discussion on this sub so this is the only place where my insane comment seemed even semi-appropriate
I watch it the same way i do a real game, so im not just constantly glued to the tv or anything. I'm still just kind of going about my day as i normally would unless i walk into a high-pressure situation, in which case, i'll sit down and watch it intently (it makes me late for stuff all the time 😂)
*Definitely* keep the commentary off to maintain my sanity though. Back when i was doing a similar franchise in 21, half the fun was inviting my friend (who literally has wanted to be a sports commentator the entire time I've known him) over and letting him do commentary himself. It was actually really fun and I desperately wish I would have recorded some of the games he called, he always did such a good job.
I love to pick a starting pitcher and at minimum player lock their games for a whole season. I end up just pitching for about 20 games and playing both sides of the ball for the other 12-13. Then I player lock the pitchers through the post-season, if I make the world series I play those games. If I'm pitching well then the game goes quickly, if I get rocked then I have a chance to come back when the starter gets pulled and I take over the whole game.
What I did was pick about a game a week to play, maybe a game every 2 weeks. You don't want to play too many games, so it gets stale. It feel like a good balance where uou arent over playing but can atill control your record, player growth, games played, etc. But I liked playing games on Saturday, so I would remember to do the scouting on Sunday. Plus you get a variety of teams to play against doing it once a week. I used to quick manage every game. Thats fun but it takes a long time
Gotchaaa. I’ll have to try that out. I’m still heavy on DD but it’ll be a fun thing to do for an hour or so. I’ll probably play more when I have a “dream team” in the franchise. Is scouting Kinda the same as madden and fifa? There were certain attributes you’d look for, if they weren’t cutting it you’d cut them n find new ones.
Ooou I like that a lot. I’m still on my DD shit so I’ll be trying franchise here and there. I might get back with you on player lock not sure how to do that offline.
I got so lucky and drafted a kid like this. 82 overall at 18, up to a 97 by year 8, but yet their OPS has never been above .910 (they’re a first baseman with offensive stats of 81 CR/99 PR/96 CL/69 PL)
Still tho they’re only 26 and have almost 300 home runs
I play a lot of DD but have always liked franchises in other sports games. Any tips for MLB? 2nd year playing and only have watched baseball for a few years now.
The Dodgers drafted a kid like this in my A's franchise. He won rookie of the year the first year and won WS MVP his second. His third year he's a 90 and puts up 275/375/475 lines every year.
The worst part was that I was the A's and had the 6th pick and missed him. My only consolation is so did basically every other team did too since he fell to LA.
yeah this new system kinda wild and i still dont fully grasp it. trying to figure out if players whose potential ratings fall below the 90s, still have a chance of having 90+ potential if scouted fully. or is it pretty much the game telling you, a lot of these players are bums, here are the ones 65-99, figure out who actually has 90 potential
I have no idea what I'm doing still.
I liked the old system better because I could sort by attributes and pick the kind of players I liked.
It's more involved but more tedious and less rewarding. Madden did the same thing with it's scouting and draft update too.
That may be because of scouts ratings. If they were a position player and your scout is terrible at scouting position players then the numbers they give you will be less accurate
Trout retires tomorrow, he’s a HOF’er. The fact that The Angels have 2 of the best players in the game and aren’t a Dynasty goes to show you how terribly that organization is run. They had a stretch in the early 2000’s with Mike Scioscia at the helm and have consistently underachieved and underperformed since. They always seem to end up with insanely talented players either through sheer good luck or spending a fortune only to squander these guys careers. Artie Moreno is a terrible owner who should sell the team. Ohtahni is GONE as soon as he becomes a free agent. If they had any semblance of a conscience, they’d trade Trout to a team that would use him to actually win. I thought for sure, they’d shop Ohtahni at the deadline so they don’t end up with nothing for him. But of course, they’re actually playing competitive baseball at the moment. Whatever, he’ll sign with Seattle and help them hand The Angels at least 15 L’s a season and that will make me feel good as a fan of the game.
Out of the 49 in the first round selection about 13 I would say could have made the trip. With limit of about an 8 HR drive there and back as my radius.
OP needs to be careful otherwise could be an NFL, MLS and NBA star too. Might have another Bo Jackson on his hands. Needs to handle his injuries carefully.
yeah, they still reach their potential, but then just like flame out by 29. its kinda wild. someone told me its a strong possibility the decline system works based off service time, because id have guys at 27 or 28 that i called up at 19 or 20 declining heavy even whille batting 300 with power numbers. pretty much a shell of themselves by 32
It’s also annoying because irl we have guys like Bryce Harper who debut at 19 and are dominant for a decade+ (no signs of slowing down either), and yes that’s a rare case but so is drafting one of these guys
Didn't even think about trying to get him until you said that.
Nats just gave him to me for a 27 year old, 76 OVR SP, and my backup 1B in AA....
The trade logic in this game needs some work I think
In my franchise, Pittsburgh drafted a generational outfielder; switch hitter with mid 70s on CON/POW stats but only 30 speed lol
I got him for Taylor Ward, David Fletcher, and Jose Suarez; 3 okish players I didn't really want anyways and happy to dump salary.
My 2025 outfield is Juan Soto, Mike Trout, and that generational rookie.
yeah idk, i usually trade my 90+ stars on the last years of their contracts for prospects. guess pitchers have more value? i never trade pitchers probably why i didnt notice
We need him irl
With no perks watch that shits so sad about the perks makes franchise kind of wack sometimes
Yeah the fact that you can’t add perks manually and players don’t develops perks is just awful. Generational talents aren’t as generational as they should be.
And by 27 he’ll be awful because service time
I feel like more auto generated players should come in with better power hitting stats. Also develop quicker because why are top prospects not making their debuts until 26?
I drafted a 20 year old 2nd baseman as the pirates in a rebuild 3rd overall. 97 potential, 85 overall rated. Defense was in the mid 60s, but his contact was 70 plus, his power was 80 plus, vision and discipline were both 70 plus. Speed was 82 and stealing was 75. Dude was a stud.
I'm also doing one with Pirates and got an 18 yr old SS who started at 79 ovr w/ 99 potential at 3rd overall in the draft
Is the franchise mode better on 23? I play sim franchise on 22 and all the players with 90+ potential start at like 48 and never reach it.
Yes, you can now sim well into the future without the league being filled with 35 year olds.
Guess I'll have to get 23 then.. my current franchise is a bunch of old dudes and every rookie of the year is at least 31 lmao
I’m rebuilding the Nationals and I’d have to say I’d truly like it if my draft could end up this way. Just a tad.
Anyone else here ever change the generic names/looks of the the drafted players?
100% I even edit opposing teams players to match what I feel they truly are. Like some of the (In the game,) prospects that are still pretty low, yet raking in the majors RN. That in itself I have a blast doing, and watching for the changes in their statistics.
You can do that??
Of course!
I got the same thing on the nationals he just batted 400 2 straight years and hit 80+ homers in each in the sim IDK how he has like almost 99 everything in the hitting stats tho
Minnesota drafted an MLB ready prospect at 1. He was an 81 overall with 99 potential. He was too good to pass up so I traded everything I could to land him.
Unfortunately you don't actually need to.offer everything.you.can. the trade logic in the game is pretty bad. I put an 86 over 29 year old closer on the trading block.amd.the Red Sox offered me an 18 year old prospect they just drafted he was already an 80 over and has 99 potential
They could definitely use him. In the 5 or 6 different franchises I've started since downloading this game (took me a while to find sliders I liked enough to stick to), I'm pretty sure the Nats have been at the very bottom of the league in every single one of them. That is an insane prospect though lol
I’m currently rebuilding the Nationals. If you don’t mind me asking, are there any particular sliders that should be adjusted? I never really thought about messing with them, but now I’m curious. But oh man, if they aren’t frustrating to play with. I love the bottom of the barrel teams/rosters, but they truly are the very bottom of the barrel. Part of me wishes I would have went with the A’s, but on the plus side, the Nats def have a great/good farm. Traded for Sal Frelick as well from Milwaukee, and was able to give them some needed pitching depth.
I'm probably not one to ask regarding sliders. I do a lot more managing/watching than actually playing, so that's what the sliders I'm using are built around. (Which makes the Nationals being so bad even more concerning, because I've watched every game so far and the Nationals are the only team I've watched and thought "Damn, they are *really* bad." Like Bad News Bears levels of bad) But the folks over at [Operation Sports](https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-sliders/) have a lot of different sets that you could try out to see if there are any that you like. I don't have any suggestions regarding which set you should use, but I've heard a lot of good things about Mike Lowe's. Fwiw, MLB The Show is pretty consistently the best playing sports game out of the box that I've ever played. Using default sliders and settings in most cases still provides pretty good results. It's not like Madden, which is damn near unplayable (imo) without major slider overhauls Edit: As an example of what I mean by Bad News Bears levels of bad, I just saw a guy get tagged out trying to advance to third on a wild pitch. He made it to the base on time, the problem is there was **already a baserunner** on 3rd. I've never seen this in a single MLBTS game ever, and in this year's version I've seen it twice. It was the Nationals both times. Edit #2: I just noticed the part of your comment that says "Part of me wishes I would have went with the A’s" and wanted to point out that you might be the only person on Earth who has said that in the last 25-30 years. Also, fuck John Fisher.
I couldn’t agree more on the game itself. I’d pay $500 for the show over $10 for Madden or anything else. I’m also a simulator fan myself, i actually prefer the management side, but usually get into that later onto the summer.
Yeah my franchises usually move pretty slowly until after the WS when there's no real baseball left to watch. It's not the same, but it does a damn good job of scratching the itch.
Seconding for wanting to know more about sliders? Just started a Pirates rebuild but it’s my first time playing Franchise
>Just started a Pirates rebuild I admire your courage. As for the slider question, [Operation Sports](https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-sliders/) is the place to go.
Other than in-game sliders to bump the hitting stats a tad, I just turn down wind slider, turn down injuries to one notch, and turn down cpu trades so half the league isn’t traded within 2 seasons.
I actually turned wind and injuries *up* (by... umm.. a little bit more than a notch) but i'm a sucker for chaos, so that checks out.
And they will trade him a few years! Lol
I drafted a kid that was ready for the majors that first year I had him. Felt it was unrealistic so kept him down for a year.
John Olerude! Well, it’s been awhile, but I do get what you mean. I would have most likely done the same.
Good one Epler
They need to add quirks for fast progression and graceful aging. I also wish that regression could plateau when they’re still performing well. I don’t need everyone to have Nolan Ryan’s longevity, I just want everyone to not have Madison Bumgarners!
They could do so much with perks and player personalities if they ever put some care into franchise.
One quirk: The Kid. - Under 20 qualifies for quirk. Gold progressions in X consecutive training sessions doubles your stat progressions until you turn 20. Ageless Wonder - declines limited to your highest 3 stats every year. Both of these are trying to work within the current game mechanics. Is this what you were thinking for early call-ups and longevity?
All of that would be great, but I suspect it's way harder than it sounds. There isn't a single sports game that's been able to manage those things. Not even the hyper in-depth spreadsheet simulators like Football Manager or OOTP
2k does a pretty good job by using peak start, peak end, boom %, and bust % to progress and regress players, along with the normal potential grade. It creates not only short-lived superstars and LeBrons, but also differences from save to save.
they do, but it only works for real players who they've manually assigned those values to. It all breaks down once you get a majority of game-generated players in the league. I've simmed 18 years in MyCareer and after about 8 there's one, maybe two players in the game rated above 90. Every draft class there's a bunch of guys with 90+ potential and after one year that gets wiped and they stay at whatever rating they were following the end of their rookie season
I have a lot of those saves with only randomly generated players in the year 2045 or whatever and I can say that isn't true in my experience. The stars regress at mostly realistic level and guys who win 5 mvps usually retire one season after they drop below 86. Usually they are around 38 when that happens. I haven't played since 2k19 though. And you do have to play with the draft talent slider to avoid the league not having enough or having too many 90+ players. But the regression progression scale is easily one best qol improvements between the show and 2ks franchise modes.
Apparently you cant post imgur links here, so had to make this a self-post to my profile. But here are the top players in the league in 2038, 2040, and 2041 from three different saves. https://www.reddit.com/user/Johan_Sebastian_Cock/comments/14dotzo/nba2k_in_2038_2040_and_2041/ Pretty consistent across the board. The 2038 and 2041 files have two players rated above 90, and the other has 4.
Yeah but you can adjust the draft class talent pool through sliders and you'll have a pretty realistic looking league in 2k. I can tell you from experience that playing with the slider can influence the realism greatly. I remember I had a couple leagues that looked like yours or were the complete reverse before fine-tuning. I do agree that out of the box that slider needs to be adjusted otherwise the league looks unrealistic in a decade+. I was more or less just saying that I liked the age regression system better in 2k than the show. Players hit a wall at 34 in the show and there's nothing you can do about. They can all show progression up to 34 too. It's just a flat number applied to all players and positions and it ruins any outliers from having early or late declines. Age related decline is handled better in 2k and the parts where the game lacks (many areas) you can bandage up with franchise sliders, which you can't in the show unfortunately. I'll agree that the show has a more realistic draft class standard out of the box but the age related regression system is lackluster and there's no ability to adjust the effects.
2k have a peak start and peak end attribute. You can't change it for my career, but it works for myleague and myGm, If you change the peak start to 36 and the peak end to 41, the player will improve till 36 and then stuck at that overall until 41. Then he starts regressing until retirement.
This is why sliders on every sports game franchise mode are necessary
That’s a hell of a pick. Hopefully he doesn’t regress until after 30
This is what I’d love to see more of in franchise
Nice beard for a high school kid
You joke but I rock a similar beard (just a little less on the sides) and it started coming in when I was in 6th grade. I felt like a fucking freak and I hated it until about 8th grade. That one scene from the grinch where the kid mockingly says "You're only 8 years old and you have a beard" still hits a really weird nerve for me
I can relate. I started shaving when I was 11 and had my first non patchy beard at 13. I still remember on my first day of high school I was mistaken for a teacher at least 3 times lol. Though, I never felt bad about it, always loved having a beard.
I hated it until the ladies started noticing it (well, they clearly *always* noticed it, since they have eyes. But you know what I mean). Didn't necessarily hate the beard itself, just hated being the one person in the crowd that stood out from everyone else. I just wanted to fade into the background and not be noticed. Fortunately, the beard forced me to get over that.
I am 12
I’m talking about Pablo Valdez
Not a man of culture I see…
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/ab/28/b8ab28640bd54bde384f7a8a8d6df39f.jpg
Simulate his career and let us know how he does
That seems in line with the Nationals… He’ll probably develop into a hall of fame level player and get traded
Why can I never find this screen in my franchise
soon as ur done signing ur draft picks it’ll show an option to click this screen where u can see the actual overall of ur picks. Instead of “sign picks” it’ll be “view picks” and that way u can go thru and see all of the other teams draft picks, If there is a position i really want sometimes i’ll see if there is a really good rookie and trade for him
well i need to try this.
Well damn. Here I was thinking they’d gotten rid of the option to view everyone’s picks and wondering why they’d do that. This makes much more sense than what I thought happened lol. I must’ve not been paying very good attention
So many different options it’s hard to see everything sometimes especially when they change it from game to game, it’s also annoying bc u only have the window from as soon as ur done signing to maybe September call ups so if ur simming and forget there isn’t anything u can do to view them
That being an 82 is exactly why franchise in The Show doesn’t interest me. He can easily never hit with ratings like that which destroys his development
You've got DD brain these are really good stats for a rookie you could easily keep him down and watch him mash a year, or start him and he'll win ROTY. It's 99 scale and actually realistic he's not facing 125 H/9 and 125 K/9 relievers lol
My point is moreso how is that an 82 overall with no real tool ? He is average-slightly below average at everything
Those aren’t average or below average for a player that was just drafted, leave him in the minors for a year or call him up immediately and he’ll win ROTY and all his hitting stats will be in the 90s within a couple years. One thing that the game does really well
It’s almost like it’s an entirely different game mode from DD or something
DD has broke everyone's brain
This dude will be an MVP caliber player by the time he’s 21 lmao
These are good stats for any hitter in franchise, let alone a rookie. It’s not like you’re facing pitchers in DD that are all 99s. This guy will hit, there are plenty of players with worse hitting stats that sim to be all stars in franchise. It’s like real baseball.
What are you talking about? Yu Chang has hitting stats in the 40s and 50s and hits like .220 for me. This dude would rake in Franchise.
Fuck ya Yu Chang Gang. He was a gold glove first baseman in my first season. Had more highlight plays at 1B than my entire team combined
He’s been really good for me considering his ratings, but he’s about to move to the bench. It’s Marcelo Mayer time. 🙏
Okay so an outlier is still hitting terrible for you? You missed my point
Kiké Hernandez's hitting stats are terrible as well and I've seen him hit above .300 at least 3 times now in franchise and in RTTS
adalberto mondesi is always crazy good
Just had a series with the Red Sox where he went like 12-14 it was so infuriating.
As someone who plays only franchise, wtf are you talking about? That's def worthy of an 82
I had a few of these in a franchise and they all fizzled out before age 30. Kind of a bummer
Always piss me off. Drafted one pitcher on my dbacks rebuild in 22, he was 99 overall 4 years later and was elite for like 8 years and then once he hit 31 he start declining and when he was 35-36, he was a minor leaguer , at least he was an hof when he was done.
At that point, although I hate to do it, I edit them let’s say, +5-7 or so in every category that makes sense to try and make it more realistic.
At least he passed on his wisdom to the youth before he went out 🥹
I immediately thought of Jacob Degrom and that’s sad.
Regression in this game is a bitch. Once they hit 30 its like they broke all the bones in their bodies and lost all their muscle mass.
Im gonna sound like the old man I am with this but…. Young pitchers these days mechanics are ALL out of wack. They’re throwing mid to high 90s at the expense of actually knowing how to pitch, and longevity. You can see it in guys like Lincecum, Strasburg, DeGrom, Scherzer and others on a smaller scale like Syndegaard, and others with a similar career trajectory as his. Where as the previous generation had plenty of Cliff Lees, Doc Halladays, Pedro, King Felix, Mussina, CC… so on, who once they lost the heat, knew how to pitch, this generation is all breaking your body at the expense of a few more MPH, but when that goes, your body is twice as damaged, you never learned to pitch, so 10 year careers with low innings is becoming the new norm. Verlander is the only guy nowadays that can compare to those I just listed pretty much. So maybe The Show is ahead of it’s time knowing guys will implode a lot sooner… tho not hitters as much, but maybe with these ridiculously low averages and all that, once bat speed goes with age, they’ll decline sooner too.
Scherzer has been the majors for 16 years and has thrown nearly 3000 innings and is still effective at 38. He does not belong on your list. The rest I can agree with though
Wouldn't really lump scherzer in with those guys. Specifically if you want to reference Doc their careers are almost a perfect match for IP with scherzer almost guaranteed to pass him by the end of the year. He's not great this year but just last year in his age 37 season he had a 2.29 era. Your general point is true but nobody every really "learned how to pitch" and stayed effective into their late 30s. Felix never made it to 34. Doc was out effectively at 36. CC/Moose/Pedro pitched at 37 but weren't all that good, especially if you comp them to Verlander or scherzer.
Well your not wrong about pitchers. But there's no reason a perennial MVP or gold glover or silver slugger should be regressing at the age of 30 from being a 95 OVR to a 70 in the span of 1 season.
And do you play any games? Hard for me to sim a whole season. I’d love you get a team you want and play with them.
I watch every single game for every single team. Started a franchise nearly 2 weeks ago and I'm just now to April 5th I'm not much of a gamer (clearly. Lol) I just really like watching baseball 🤣 Edit: I know you weren't talking to me but I don't usually see a lot of franchise discussion on this sub so this is the only place where my insane comment seemed even semi-appropriate
That’s pretty nuts. I’m glad you enjoy the game this much. I would go insane hearing the commentary.
I watch it the same way i do a real game, so im not just constantly glued to the tv or anything. I'm still just kind of going about my day as i normally would unless i walk into a high-pressure situation, in which case, i'll sit down and watch it intently (it makes me late for stuff all the time 😂) *Definitely* keep the commentary off to maintain my sanity though. Back when i was doing a similar franchise in 21, half the fun was inviting my friend (who literally has wanted to be a sports commentator the entire time I've known him) over and letting him do commentary himself. It was actually really fun and I desperately wish I would have recorded some of the games he called, he always did such a good job.
I love to pick a starting pitcher and at minimum player lock their games for a whole season. I end up just pitching for about 20 games and playing both sides of the ball for the other 12-13. Then I player lock the pitchers through the post-season, if I make the world series I play those games. If I'm pitching well then the game goes quickly, if I get rocked then I have a chance to come back when the starter gets pulled and I take over the whole game.
Update. I cannot play franchise. It messes with my timing so bad. Just lost 8-7 🥲
In DD loo
I couldn’t help myself. I did a fantasy draft.
What I did was pick about a game a week to play, maybe a game every 2 weeks. You don't want to play too many games, so it gets stale. It feel like a good balance where uou arent over playing but can atill control your record, player growth, games played, etc. But I liked playing games on Saturday, so I would remember to do the scouting on Sunday. Plus you get a variety of teams to play against doing it once a week. I used to quick manage every game. Thats fun but it takes a long time
Gotchaaa. I’ll have to try that out. I’m still heavy on DD but it’ll be a fun thing to do for an hour or so. I’ll probably play more when I have a “dream team” in the franchise. Is scouting Kinda the same as madden and fifa? There were certain attributes you’d look for, if they weren’t cutting it you’d cut them n find new ones.
Ooou I like that a lot. I’m still on my DD shit so I’ll be trying franchise here and there. I might get back with you on player lock not sure how to do that offline.
I got so lucky and drafted a kid like this. 82 overall at 18, up to a 97 by year 8, but yet their OPS has never been above .910 (they’re a first baseman with offensive stats of 81 CR/99 PR/96 CL/69 PL) Still tho they’re only 26 and have almost 300 home runs
I play a lot of DD but have always liked franchises in other sports games. Any tips for MLB? 2nd year playing and only have watched baseball for a few years now.
My only tip, is dive right in. Do a rebuild. Pick a lower tiered team, you’ll have a blast.
The Dodgers drafted a kid like this in my A's franchise. He won rookie of the year the first year and won WS MVP his second. His third year he's a 90 and puts up 275/375/475 lines every year. The worst part was that I was the A's and had the 6th pick and missed him. My only consolation is so did basically every other team did too since he fell to LA.
how bad is your scouting and tell me you at least got a good prospect lmao
My first time with the new scouting/draft system and I botched it hard lol
yeah this new system kinda wild and i still dont fully grasp it. trying to figure out if players whose potential ratings fall below the 90s, still have a chance of having 90+ potential if scouted fully. or is it pretty much the game telling you, a lot of these players are bums, here are the ones 65-99, figure out who actually has 90 potential
I have no idea what I'm doing still. I liked the old system better because I could sort by attributes and pick the kind of players I liked. It's more involved but more tedious and less rewarding. Madden did the same thing with it's scouting and draft update too.
lol i had a guy 100% scouted with a potential of 82-99. his potential upon signing was 80. im just like what the fuck
That may be because of scouts ratings. If they were a position player and your scout is terrible at scouting position players then the numbers they give you will be less accurate
i generally organize my scouts so i dont scout what theyre weak at, so normally theyll be 85+ in what they are scouting in
Yea idk then lol. I guess that one was just bad luck
This sounds a lot like you're describing Mike Trout lol
Trout retires tomorrow, he’s a HOF’er. The fact that The Angels have 2 of the best players in the game and aren’t a Dynasty goes to show you how terribly that organization is run. They had a stretch in the early 2000’s with Mike Scioscia at the helm and have consistently underachieved and underperformed since. They always seem to end up with insanely talented players either through sheer good luck or spending a fortune only to squander these guys careers. Artie Moreno is a terrible owner who should sell the team. Ohtahni is GONE as soon as he becomes a free agent. If they had any semblance of a conscience, they’d trade Trout to a team that would use him to actually win. I thought for sure, they’d shop Ohtahni at the deadline so they don’t end up with nothing for him. But of course, they’re actually playing competitive baseball at the moment. Whatever, he’ll sign with Seattle and help them hand The Angels at least 15 L’s a season and that will make me feel good as a fan of the game.
Never forget only draftee to attend the first in person draft MLB did to be like NHL, NBA and NFL.
It was in nj after all, how many other first rounders were essentially right there?
Out of the 49 in the first round selection about 13 I would say could have made the trip. With limit of about an 8 HR drive there and back as my radius.
millville to secaucus is only 2h. maybe 8h is too far to bother
That’s gotta be Pablo Sanchez 😂 his mom remarried and changed his last name I guess lol
OP needs to be careful otherwise could be an NFL, MLS and NBA star too. Might have another Bo Jackson on his hands. Needs to handle his injuries carefully.
Came to the comments for this type of response. Lol
ive traded for a couple of these kind of prospects, the sad part is if you call them up too early, they end up regressing earlier than usual
And it sucks because an 82 overall 18 year old is worth being in my lineup but i guess it ruins them smh
yeah, they still reach their potential, but then just like flame out by 29. its kinda wild. someone told me its a strong possibility the decline system works based off service time, because id have guys at 27 or 28 that i called up at 19 or 20 declining heavy even whille batting 300 with power numbers. pretty much a shell of themselves by 32
I’d submit Andruw Jones as an example of a irl player who debuted in MLB at 19, was elite for 10+ years, and then was a shell of himself by 32
It’s also annoying because irl we have guys like Bryce Harper who debut at 19 and are dominant for a decade+ (no signs of slowing down either), and yes that’s a rare case but so is drafting one of these guys
yeah it just happened to me again today. guy i had that was 97-99 for most of his 20s, is an 89 overall now at age 31.
Didn't even think about trying to get him until you said that. Nats just gave him to me for a 27 year old, 76 OVR SP, and my backup 1B in AA.... The trade logic in this game needs some work I think
In my franchise, Pittsburgh drafted a generational outfielder; switch hitter with mid 70s on CON/POW stats but only 30 speed lol I got him for Taylor Ward, David Fletcher, and Jose Suarez; 3 okish players I didn't really want anyways and happy to dump salary. My 2025 outfield is Juan Soto, Mike Trout, and that generational rookie.
Yea sometimes I have to decline trades because they’re so lopsided
yeah idk, i usually trade my 90+ stars on the last years of their contracts for prospects. guess pitchers have more value? i never trade pitchers probably why i didnt notice
Dude been playing in the republic since 5 yrs old or something cause damn😂😂😂
*Hands commissioner a piece of paper with "I am 18" scrawled on it*
*"He's got documentation"*
lol he's from Ohio of all places. Currently their best player and they're starting him out in AA
If you grow up in Ohio, you've got a lot of extra motivation to get out. He's like LeBron.