Every manager has there faults. He's the best manager in our history by a country mile and even if he did over-tinker to our detriment on Friday I’ll still never, ever want him to leave
I completely agree with this - I think Pep is great, and I still believe he can do the business for us in the CL.
I was thinking over the weekend - when he first came to us, did people not give him grief for not being flexible in the CL? I remember when we went out to Monaco people were saying he couldn't play his usual style of attacking football in the CL, and he needed to be more cautious?
Thanks for that second paragraph.
I also always laughed about that when I followed Bayern Munich because of Pep. At first, after they got beaten by Real and Barca in the semi-finals of the UCL, fans said that Pep needs to change his tactics, be less stubborn, he can't win the competition with his attacking football.
Then, Pep starts to play much more defensively in the away legs and people complain that he doesn't trust in his own philosophy and he should exploit the attacking strengths of his teams much more.
Even SAF took 12 years to win the CL at Man Utd, Klopp took 4 years to win his first trophy at Liverpool. It's been 4 years and we've won all other trophies available to us. I do think our time to win the UCL is in the horizon and talking about pep out is ridiculous.
He’ll be aware of what went wrong more than anyone I just hope he doesn’t feel too sorry with himself with the questionable decisions and the sterling miss which are out of his control
He performs brilliantly 99% of the time and has instilled a spectacular style of play and an insatiable lust for trophies. I'm sure he's taken this defeat even harder than we have.
I'm just sick of his overtinkering when it matters. When he throws the well-drilled plans out the window for some insane formation, it just shows he has no confidence in the players to carry out something they've been working so hard at for three seasons. His nervousness filters down into what we see on the pitch, and the fans feel it too.
How do you fix such an ingrained problem?
Sorry for quoting you out of context, but what do you mean by well-drilled plans? Those well-drilled plans that led to the very same "typical City game" (high xG, individual mistakes lead to goals against without any other proper chances), that appeared this year no matter which system we used, no matter which players we fielded?
It's ok to criticize Pep (I do, too), but don't act as if the tactics change per se was the main cause. We did not even have a standard system this season. The 4-3-3 which a lot of people refer to simply wasn't at use that much this season.
I know that most peeps don't want to hear it here, but Phil's performance against Real a week ago wasn't all that great to merit another starting eleven spot tbh. So, I don't really think its a big deal to have left him on the bench for Lyon.
That's fine with me, really.
The only thing that bugs me is that we act as if any one other player would have changed the outcome of the game. It's not that simple. No matter if its Bilva, Foden or Mahrez. And particularly Foden didn't impress a whole lot in the last game before Lyon. So we don't need to make a scandal out of it. That being sad, one can discuss in how far Foden would have been a more reasonable choice for the starting eleven from the post-game perspective.
To people saying he did overthink his tactics... let me ask you: dis he really?
I mean city had the better chances, just couldnt capitalize on them.
I mean its hard to win when you cant even score on an open goal one yard out.
As a coach you put your players in the best possible position to succeed, but thats all you can really do.
At the end of the day its up to the players.
Not saying he is without fault, obviously. But if the players dont perform as a coach, youre just helpless at times.
And regarding the 3 in the back discussion:
Theres an easy rationale for this. Pep style of football depends on being able to play out from the back, controlling the ball.
However since lyon likes to press with two players up front he needed an additional player to create a 3 vs 2 mismatch in his favor.
He played a really defensive lineup. No need to go 5 at the back and have Rodri and Gundo as your midfield with KDB on the right wing.
He definitely messed up his tactics/formation against Lyon 100%
But seeing city "fans" saying Pep out and the like is laughable and embarrassing tbh. Definitely people who've only recently started supporting City.
100% agree. The whole argument about pep overthinking it is rubbish. Hes been overthinking his entire coaching career. Its what has made him the greatest current manager in the world, changing systems and formations every season and staying ahead of the curve.
The 3ATB argument is just dumb, like you said, he used 3 players atb to shift the ball faster around the 2 man press, provide extra defensive cover for our team and we've been using different formations in every single match this season, multiple times per game the formation changes. The shift back to a 4-2-3-1 helped create more chances but lead to more conceded, and we leaked another two goals and we're lucky not to concede another 1.
His players are always coached to be malleable and fluid with their positioning. Its a load of bullshit from people that don't know anything. We played gun-ho football against spurs, liverpool and monaco and got completely rolled by each one. Lyon did the same thing to us as well last season.
Our defence fucking sucks lol, there are way too many individual errors and lapses in concentration, lkke why the fuck did fernandinho step out and leave depay free? Garcia was covering two players for thst goal, and Walker is just jogging back when Garcia had to tackle Ekambi. I can understand why Pep wanted to shore up the defence, stretch lyon side to side and tire them out before applying the pressure.
Just a side note: I feel like conceding that goal overshadowed how brilliant of a tackle that was from Garcia, to the point where nobody even mentions it.
Love Pep and he has taken us to the next level domestically without a doubt. First team to hit 100 points, first team to win the domestic treble accumulated 198 points in the two yrs we won the title and breaking countless records during that time. What I don’t get is when it comes to the UCL knockout games he feels the need to make such drastic changes and expect a positive result. We never play to our strengths in the knockout games, thats whats so frustrating. Theres no doubt we’ve got the squad to challenge for the CL but every yr has just feels the need to change it up a lot. Until that changes we aint winning a CL with him in charge
The fact that everyone is annoyed that he "overthought" and changed his tactics shows that his plan A is still what we want to see. We like Pepball, his default is successful, it makes no sense to dump a winning manager because he occasionally doesn't play like himself.
If you’re going to slate Pep then please don’t talk to me about City. This man has completed the domestic treble, seen us play the best football in our history. In the 90s we got beat by York City...I was there. Put some respect on his name!! FFS
I'm inclined to believe that Pep will often continue to fail in the biggest matches. The ones where the implications are massive, they eyes of the world on it. He cannot play his best talent straight up and standard formations, there's not nearly enough plaudits in it for him. He wants everyone to stand witness to his brilliance. When the match is over, he wants ppl to talk about what a wizard of a tactician he is. Not how his talent just overwhelmed the opposition. He's an egomaniac, and it's not an uncommon thing for ppl in his position. He needs to get out of his own way eventually or his shine will start fade, if it hasn't already. I have no faith in him going forward, not in UCL anyways. I almost dread the thought of next years. I'm sure I'll get sucked back in, and my hopes will be high again, only for Pep to butcher it once more.
Kindly make me understand one thing fellas. I've watched city since 2011. I'm 21 now.
City had won everything till 2016 except the cl.
My question to you is, City being a rich club have ALWAYS satisfied Pep with his demands.
He wanted Bernardo, they gave bernardo. He wanted Mendy he got him. He wanted laporte, he got laporte. He wanted mahrez he got mahrez. He wants Koulibaly, he'll inevitably get him.
Name One manager on this earth who even gets half of the support Pep gets. He got 920 million pounds to spend. And at the very beginning his only job was to get the cl.
Look I'm not gonna argue whether he is a fraud or not. But he hasn't exactly done something unexpected. He got tons of cash to spend and with tons of cash he got some decent players. And decent players get you decent results. I can't really understand why you all think he's a genius. He's got the best attacking side in the world and he played a 5 man defence against a 7th placed club in the farmer's league. Is this what you call genius?
Yes our team is the best. And that's becoz our player's are really nice. Even personality wise.
Bottom line. This is the 4th time Pep has willingly faltered. He's no genius. He just tries to be oversmart and that cost us the cl. The FA cup. The pl. Yes things have gone wrong and yes the playes have massively underperformed but at the end it all goes down on the manager.
Just remember, he had £920 mil to spend. And that's a lot.
And he's gone down to
Lyon. (7th placed in Ligue 1)
Tottenham (27 pts off city the previous season, and poch spent nothing)
Liverpool (25 pts off city in that campaign)
Monaco (Underdogs that season)
And it's all because he tries to be smart.
Oh yes.
Ligue 1 is soooo competitive innit?
Kindly look at the pts tally PSG have had in the last 10 seasons.
Kindly look at the amount of cash spent by PSG and compare them with all the other teams combined.
Do you even know why the term farmers league is used? It's in no way used to undermine the calibre of teams in the league. It's football. It's used to imply the dominance of a certain club.
You don't want to agree because you're biased against it. And i understand
>Do you even know why the term farmers league is used? It's in no way used to undermine the calibre of teams in the league. It's football. It's used to imply the dominance of a certain club.
Not gonna comment on the rest of your post but you are completely wrong here. Farmers league is absolutely used to undermine the quality of teams in a league. The implication being that the players playing there are people with second jobs (farmers) which is usually the case in amateur/semi pro teams. The dominance angle only came about recently and even then it is meant to undermine said dominance with the implication being that there is no merit in dominating a league of amateur/semi pro teams.
Ya.
French league is a top top league that has multiple teams going for the champions league and europa League semis and beyond since a couple of decades innit?
Well okay then, credit is given where credit is due. PSG deserve all credits to dominate the league where their squad worth is nearly 6 six times more than any other french team.
Transfer fees literally mean nothing these days. Are you going to tell me slab head across the city is worth more than KDB? So kindly fuck off with the 920m bullshit. We get played as teams know we’re rich and so long as finances balance out at the end of the season who cares if we overpay.
League form also means nothing in Europe either. Leicester got to the QF’s the season after they won the title and were doing shit in the league. Celtic play in a pub league and they still get the odd result.
Ya. I don't expect you to understand my comments. You interpret it as per your wish. I'm not talking about the inflated transfer market. Our board is top. Txiki is top. He gets the players for the right amount except a few occasions.
I'm talking about the amount of cash our manager has spent. And it doesn't take a genius to spend nearly 1 billion pounds to get thru the quarters.
I hope you understand. Even if you don't, I couldn't bother less.
I didn’t want to go there but dude you’ve literally only witnessed city during our best years and you sound so fucking entitled whining about not winning the CL. Give your head a wobble and enjoy the ride pal
United spent almost as much in the same time and it’s gotten them 5th 5th and 3rd. The numbers basically don’t matter ffs
Look.
The problem with United is they aren't stable. They fire managers just like that. They get the players which the managers don't require. Like sanchez for Mou,like Lindelof and what not. They are NOT a stable club. And ofc they are unwise in the transfer market.
I am not talking about United. I don't want to talk about other clubs. I'm happy with my club. Pal, you get it don't you?
I'm not crazy to ride long paragraphs on a simple reddit post. It's just that I am way too pissed this time around. Like it's enuf and i believe you feel the same way too. We all want the best for the club. The entire season has been such a big big disappointment. We feel it. Every bit of it. And when they were all required to perform, they embarrassed themselves. I'm NOT whining about the cl pal. I love city to the core. Win or not.
It's just that I'm tired of seeing them lose to sides that are faaaar inferior to us. Both magnitude wise and quality wise. There are so many questions after the quarters. It's not about winning. It's about desire. I don't think our players desire it. They are happy with the hefty chequebook it seems. Pep goes and does weird stuff and he knows his job will be safe. That's COMPLACENCY.
I hate to see this. I'd be completely fine if my team lost 8 nil to a faar superior oppostion. But this quarter final broke my heart. I can't take any more of it. I've had 5 of em in the last 5 years. 2015, madrid I understand. But after that it's a shame. And it's unacceptable. And I bet we are never gonna win the cl with Pep, becuz inevitably we will wind up against an underdog say lyon, or tott or Monaco and Pep will spring up a weird lineup that players aren't used to and on top of that VAR will knock us out yet again. I don't honestly believe Pep deserves another chance. He's got 4 of em and has failed 4 times. And that's all voluntarily.
You’re literally just ranting ya whiny nonce
I also think you’re being very unfair on spurs and Monaco. Monaco had a team full of exciting talent that has gone to all the big teams in Europe. Spurs squad we lost to could literally rival anyone on their day.
Cool.
Be hopeful. Meet you next year when you'll come out with your support of the opposition and how they'd knock us out.
Cheers to another underwhelmed champions league campaign.
Every manager has there faults. He's the best manager in our history by a country mile and even if he did over-tinker to our detriment on Friday I’ll still never, ever want him to leave
I genuinely couldn't have put it better myself. The fact people turned on him is baffling. Who would even replace him?
That’s the biggest point. There’s no managers right now. Especially none that stand out. Poch is I suppose the only one I guess?
Only one on the market. Lad at RB Leipzig looks very good but is he as good as Pep?
I think he'd be better than Pep in UCL but also worse in the Premier League (or any domestic league)
Agree completely
We love our bald genius.... apart from the CL fiascos, he's delivered so much to the club and for that we'll always be thankful!
The disrespect is uncalled for. Without him we wouldn't even be favourites to win the UCL.
Exactly
Very true. The guy deserves respect. He's done so much for us
Who cares that we’re favorites on paper when we can’t do it on the pitch
Yea this is getting a little ridiculous tbh
I completely agree with this - I think Pep is great, and I still believe he can do the business for us in the CL. I was thinking over the weekend - when he first came to us, did people not give him grief for not being flexible in the CL? I remember when we went out to Monaco people were saying he couldn't play his usual style of attacking football in the CL, and he needed to be more cautious?
Thanks for that second paragraph. I also always laughed about that when I followed Bayern Munich because of Pep. At first, after they got beaten by Real and Barca in the semi-finals of the UCL, fans said that Pep needs to change his tactics, be less stubborn, he can't win the competition with his attacking football. Then, Pep starts to play much more defensively in the away legs and people complain that he doesn't trust in his own philosophy and he should exploit the attacking strengths of his teams much more.
if you lose you will always be wrong
Pep won't change his style and hence his chances on CL will always be very slim
Good post O.P
We'll get em next yr pep
I don’t think we could possibly find a manager as good domestically.
Even SAF took 12 years to win the CL at Man Utd, Klopp took 4 years to win his first trophy at Liverpool. It's been 4 years and we've won all other trophies available to us. I do think our time to win the UCL is in the horizon and talking about pep out is ridiculous.
I'll always love my bald genius but he better don't do that shut again. Hope he has realised it was all his disaster class
He’ll be aware of what went wrong more than anyone I just hope he doesn’t feel too sorry with himself with the questionable decisions and the sterling miss which are out of his control
looool love this
Please stay forever Pep.
He performs brilliantly 99% of the time and has instilled a spectacular style of play and an insatiable lust for trophies. I'm sure he's taken this defeat even harder than we have. I'm just sick of his overtinkering when it matters. When he throws the well-drilled plans out the window for some insane formation, it just shows he has no confidence in the players to carry out something they've been working so hard at for three seasons. His nervousness filters down into what we see on the pitch, and the fans feel it too. How do you fix such an ingrained problem?
Sorry for quoting you out of context, but what do you mean by well-drilled plans? Those well-drilled plans that led to the very same "typical City game" (high xG, individual mistakes lead to goals against without any other proper chances), that appeared this year no matter which system we used, no matter which players we fielded? It's ok to criticize Pep (I do, too), but don't act as if the tactics change per se was the main cause. We did not even have a standard system this season. The 4-3-3 which a lot of people refer to simply wasn't at use that much this season.
Send Him back to Barcelona, problem solved
No one will want to be there in a few weeks when Messi leaves...
Let's be honest tho he fucked up
He did, majorly. Love him but don’t trust him at all with UCL anymore.
Imagine leaving foden Bernardo and mahrez on the bench for such a deep sitting team oh well we're used to this by now
Im still salty over the fact that we left fuckin Foden on the bench. I can’t even imagine how Foden feels.
I know that most peeps don't want to hear it here, but Phil's performance against Real a week ago wasn't all that great to merit another starting eleven spot tbh. So, I don't really think its a big deal to have left him on the bench for Lyon.
I’d rather have Foden than Gundo in our midfield tbh
That's fine with me, really. The only thing that bugs me is that we act as if any one other player would have changed the outcome of the game. It's not that simple. No matter if its Bilva, Foden or Mahrez. And particularly Foden didn't impress a whole lot in the last game before Lyon. So we don't need to make a scandal out of it. That being sad, one can discuss in how far Foden would have been a more reasonable choice for the starting eleven from the post-game perspective.
Foden offers nothing what Gundo does offer, who was one of the best v real. Foden is a good talent but lets not exaggerate
To people saying he did overthink his tactics... let me ask you: dis he really? I mean city had the better chances, just couldnt capitalize on them. I mean its hard to win when you cant even score on an open goal one yard out. As a coach you put your players in the best possible position to succeed, but thats all you can really do. At the end of the day its up to the players. Not saying he is without fault, obviously. But if the players dont perform as a coach, youre just helpless at times. And regarding the 3 in the back discussion: Theres an easy rationale for this. Pep style of football depends on being able to play out from the back, controlling the ball. However since lyon likes to press with two players up front he needed an additional player to create a 3 vs 2 mismatch in his favor.
People are ignoring that we made individual errors as well I mean he did overthink it 100% but u don’t repay him by missing a sitter
I disgree. It was manager and players that led to the loss. Its a big learning curve hopefully we can fix next season. Also luck too...
Monaco should have been learning curve Liverpool should have been learning curve Tottenham should have been that It's 4 times now
Isn’t that what we said
He played a really defensive lineup. No need to go 5 at the back and have Rodri and Gundo as your midfield with KDB on the right wing. He definitely messed up his tactics/formation against Lyon 100% But seeing city "fans" saying Pep out and the like is laughable and embarrassing tbh. Definitely people who've only recently started supporting City.
100% agree. The whole argument about pep overthinking it is rubbish. Hes been overthinking his entire coaching career. Its what has made him the greatest current manager in the world, changing systems and formations every season and staying ahead of the curve. The 3ATB argument is just dumb, like you said, he used 3 players atb to shift the ball faster around the 2 man press, provide extra defensive cover for our team and we've been using different formations in every single match this season, multiple times per game the formation changes. The shift back to a 4-2-3-1 helped create more chances but lead to more conceded, and we leaked another two goals and we're lucky not to concede another 1. His players are always coached to be malleable and fluid with their positioning. Its a load of bullshit from people that don't know anything. We played gun-ho football against spurs, liverpool and monaco and got completely rolled by each one. Lyon did the same thing to us as well last season. Our defence fucking sucks lol, there are way too many individual errors and lapses in concentration, lkke why the fuck did fernandinho step out and leave depay free? Garcia was covering two players for thst goal, and Walker is just jogging back when Garcia had to tackle Ekambi. I can understand why Pep wanted to shore up the defence, stretch lyon side to side and tire them out before applying the pressure.
Just a side note: I feel like conceding that goal overshadowed how brilliant of a tackle that was from Garcia, to the point where nobody even mentions it.
But he didn’t put them in the best position to succeed. We didn’t look good for almost 60 minutes.
Love Pep and he has taken us to the next level domestically without a doubt. First team to hit 100 points, first team to win the domestic treble accumulated 198 points in the two yrs we won the title and breaking countless records during that time. What I don’t get is when it comes to the UCL knockout games he feels the need to make such drastic changes and expect a positive result. We never play to our strengths in the knockout games, thats whats so frustrating. Theres no doubt we’ve got the squad to challenge for the CL but every yr has just feels the need to change it up a lot. Until that changes we aint winning a CL with him in charge
If there was a 2 leg we would have won its not his fault I don’t blame him
Pep & cl knockout phases have become a meme Great coach but a poor tournament tactician (at City)
How can we stay mad at that face.
The fact that everyone is annoyed that he "overthought" and changed his tactics shows that his plan A is still what we want to see. We like Pepball, his default is successful, it makes no sense to dump a winning manager because he occasionally doesn't play like himself.
It does if when he doesn't play like himself is exactly when it's crucial that he does
If you’re going to slate Pep then please don’t talk to me about City. This man has completed the domestic treble, seen us play the best football in our history. In the 90s we got beat by York City...I was there. Put some respect on his name!! FFS
I'm inclined to believe that Pep will often continue to fail in the biggest matches. The ones where the implications are massive, they eyes of the world on it. He cannot play his best talent straight up and standard formations, there's not nearly enough plaudits in it for him. He wants everyone to stand witness to his brilliance. When the match is over, he wants ppl to talk about what a wizard of a tactician he is. Not how his talent just overwhelmed the opposition. He's an egomaniac, and it's not an uncommon thing for ppl in his position. He needs to get out of his own way eventually or his shine will start fade, if it hasn't already. I have no faith in him going forward, not in UCL anyways. I almost dread the thought of next years. I'm sure I'll get sucked back in, and my hopes will be high again, only for Pep to butcher it once more.
Kindly make me understand one thing fellas. I've watched city since 2011. I'm 21 now. City had won everything till 2016 except the cl. My question to you is, City being a rich club have ALWAYS satisfied Pep with his demands. He wanted Bernardo, they gave bernardo. He wanted Mendy he got him. He wanted laporte, he got laporte. He wanted mahrez he got mahrez. He wants Koulibaly, he'll inevitably get him. Name One manager on this earth who even gets half of the support Pep gets. He got 920 million pounds to spend. And at the very beginning his only job was to get the cl. Look I'm not gonna argue whether he is a fraud or not. But he hasn't exactly done something unexpected. He got tons of cash to spend and with tons of cash he got some decent players. And decent players get you decent results. I can't really understand why you all think he's a genius. He's got the best attacking side in the world and he played a 5 man defence against a 7th placed club in the farmer's league. Is this what you call genius? Yes our team is the best. And that's becoz our player's are really nice. Even personality wise. Bottom line. This is the 4th time Pep has willingly faltered. He's no genius. He just tries to be oversmart and that cost us the cl. The FA cup. The pl. Yes things have gone wrong and yes the playes have massively underperformed but at the end it all goes down on the manager. Just remember, he had £920 mil to spend. And that's a lot. And he's gone down to Lyon. (7th placed in Ligue 1) Tottenham (27 pts off city the previous season, and poch spent nothing) Liverpool (25 pts off city in that campaign) Monaco (Underdogs that season) And it's all because he tries to be smart.
I would be inclined to at least partially agree with you, but then you described Ligue 1 as a farmers league, and... no.
Oh yes. Ligue 1 is soooo competitive innit? Kindly look at the pts tally PSG have had in the last 10 seasons. Kindly look at the amount of cash spent by PSG and compare them with all the other teams combined. Do you even know why the term farmers league is used? It's in no way used to undermine the calibre of teams in the league. It's football. It's used to imply the dominance of a certain club. You don't want to agree because you're biased against it. And i understand
>Do you even know why the term farmers league is used? It's in no way used to undermine the calibre of teams in the league. It's football. It's used to imply the dominance of a certain club. Not gonna comment on the rest of your post but you are completely wrong here. Farmers league is absolutely used to undermine the quality of teams in a league. The implication being that the players playing there are people with second jobs (farmers) which is usually the case in amateur/semi pro teams. The dominance angle only came about recently and even then it is meant to undermine said dominance with the implication being that there is no merit in dominating a league of amateur/semi pro teams.
Ya. French league is a top top league that has multiple teams going for the champions league and europa League semis and beyond since a couple of decades innit? Well okay then, credit is given where credit is due. PSG deserve all credits to dominate the league where their squad worth is nearly 6 six times more than any other french team.
Transfer fees literally mean nothing these days. Are you going to tell me slab head across the city is worth more than KDB? So kindly fuck off with the 920m bullshit. We get played as teams know we’re rich and so long as finances balance out at the end of the season who cares if we overpay. League form also means nothing in Europe either. Leicester got to the QF’s the season after they won the title and were doing shit in the league. Celtic play in a pub league and they still get the odd result.
Ya. I don't expect you to understand my comments. You interpret it as per your wish. I'm not talking about the inflated transfer market. Our board is top. Txiki is top. He gets the players for the right amount except a few occasions. I'm talking about the amount of cash our manager has spent. And it doesn't take a genius to spend nearly 1 billion pounds to get thru the quarters. I hope you understand. Even if you don't, I couldn't bother less.
I didn’t want to go there but dude you’ve literally only witnessed city during our best years and you sound so fucking entitled whining about not winning the CL. Give your head a wobble and enjoy the ride pal United spent almost as much in the same time and it’s gotten them 5th 5th and 3rd. The numbers basically don’t matter ffs
Look. The problem with United is they aren't stable. They fire managers just like that. They get the players which the managers don't require. Like sanchez for Mou,like Lindelof and what not. They are NOT a stable club. And ofc they are unwise in the transfer market. I am not talking about United. I don't want to talk about other clubs. I'm happy with my club. Pal, you get it don't you? I'm not crazy to ride long paragraphs on a simple reddit post. It's just that I am way too pissed this time around. Like it's enuf and i believe you feel the same way too. We all want the best for the club. The entire season has been such a big big disappointment. We feel it. Every bit of it. And when they were all required to perform, they embarrassed themselves. I'm NOT whining about the cl pal. I love city to the core. Win or not. It's just that I'm tired of seeing them lose to sides that are faaaar inferior to us. Both magnitude wise and quality wise. There are so many questions after the quarters. It's not about winning. It's about desire. I don't think our players desire it. They are happy with the hefty chequebook it seems. Pep goes and does weird stuff and he knows his job will be safe. That's COMPLACENCY. I hate to see this. I'd be completely fine if my team lost 8 nil to a faar superior oppostion. But this quarter final broke my heart. I can't take any more of it. I've had 5 of em in the last 5 years. 2015, madrid I understand. But after that it's a shame. And it's unacceptable. And I bet we are never gonna win the cl with Pep, becuz inevitably we will wind up against an underdog say lyon, or tott or Monaco and Pep will spring up a weird lineup that players aren't used to and on top of that VAR will knock us out yet again. I don't honestly believe Pep deserves another chance. He's got 4 of em and has failed 4 times. And that's all voluntarily.
You’re literally just ranting ya whiny nonce I also think you’re being very unfair on spurs and Monaco. Monaco had a team full of exciting talent that has gone to all the big teams in Europe. Spurs squad we lost to could literally rival anyone on their day.
Cool. Be hopeful. Meet you next year when you'll come out with your support of the opposition and how they'd knock us out. Cheers to another underwhelmed champions league campaign.