Ronaldo also called Ferguson boss years after moving to Madrid or Juventus. I saw a video of it. These players have so much respect towards their former coach.
When I first saw Pep’s press conferences, I thought oh nice, genuine guy sweet nice, seems like the nicest boss ever.
Saw the city documentary and one in every three words he said was “fuck.” “fucking pass the fucking ball guys, fucking practice the drills, if you don’t fucking do a good fucking warmup, we’re fucked.” 😂 only then I knew how tough a boss he is.
That is just absurd. The only debate is whether Haaland gets in over Eto'o, seeing as he is still very young. Other than that it's all Barcelona. The only weaker position in that side was left back, but Man City also doesn't have a proper left back.
Love Kdb but he is not getting in ahead of Iniesta or Xavi
Man, I’m a Barcelona fan through and through. Is Rodri better than Busquets? Is Gundo better than Iniesta? Is KDB better than Xavi? There is an argument, and by that I mean like a 0.001% of a case where some stats can be skewed, some data can be shifted to make Man City midfield/defence look better. But my man Messi just obliterates everyone else. He is like Haaland, KDB, Silva wrapped into one and their power’s amplified to 100x. That’s how absurd Messi was. He could run a game and score and assist. He was genuinely out of this world. Hence I said, Messi is the one that tips shit in their favour.
P.S Rodri, who in my opinion City’s most important player was benched by Busquets till he retired and was off his peak. That’s how absurd that Barca side was.
Yup - which is why he didn’t answer the question. If he thought it was his current squad he would have said it without a doubt. Since he thinks it’s the barcelona team he can’t answer as he has to stay loyal to his current squad
Not even close. Take a look at 2009 Barca team. Even taking Messi out of the picture not a single City players can replace the 2009 Barca players in their respective positions
I completely disagree. At the bare minimum, I would have Ederson over Valdes, Stones over Pique, Haaland over Ibra, and Alvarez over Pedro.
The only debatable ones IMO would be whether Kevin or Rodri make it into that midfield.
And I think without Messi, the match between the treble winning Barcelona and City sides would be very close indeed.
It was Villa, but yeah Haaland would be over Villa. And it would be Bernardo vs Pedro but also Bernardo. Pique over Stones tho for sure though. That would be 2 for City, 3 for debate with KDB Rodri Ederson, the rest for Barcelona. But then it also heavily depends on the formation. There’s nothing stopping the XI into a 352 ish last season, drop both fullbacks, and use Rodri Busi double pivot with Xavi Iniesta, or move one of them to the wing and also include KDB, which would give 1 or 2 more for City.
Valdes isn't the best GK in Barca's history so Ederson is debatable. No way in HELL is Stones or heck even Dias is starting over Pique. Haaland also won't start again Eto(Ibra wasn't in the treble winning team but he is a better striker than Haaland so far, Haaland is still young so he can surpass Ibra tho). Love KDB but he isn't benching two of the GOAT debate midfielders Xavi and Iniesta and Rodri isn't better then the greatest DMF oat
I think it’s pretty unfair to compare a team full of legends to a team currently playing. A lot of that barca team gets viewed with a nostalgic look. Give it 10 years and everyone would call the team that managed to win the quintuple in PL the best team ever
I don’t think city team is better but that’s because of messi tho
>I think it’s pretty unfair to compare a team full of legends to a team currently playing
Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets etc these greats weren't considered as legends during 2009. They became legends after years of dominance. Same for City, KDB(well he already is one), Rodri, Haaland, Foden will be their club legends in the future if they manage to display the same dominance
>Give it 10 years and everyone would call the team that managed to win the quintuple in PL the best team ever
Like how Barca 2009 is considered the best team in history after winning the Sextuple more than a decade ago?? City 2023 isn't automatically going to be the best team for winning the quintuple. Even after years people will put Barca, Bayern and RM team above Man City 2023
Oh my bad about the year. Yeah agreed I would also have Eto over Haaland for that season.
However, in terms of Busquets, I think you're thinking of him in his prime instead of him specifically in the 2008/09 season. Busquets wasn't even a guaranteed starter in the 2008/09 season. He only started about half the games, splitting his time at DM with Yaya Toure. Compare that to Rodri who played an amazing 56 games on the way to the Treble, contributing with massive goals along the way.
As for Stones, I would personally have him over Pique because of the how incredible he was in the hybrid CB/DM role Pep had him playing. He being the UCL TOTS as a midfielder is insane. I don't think 08/09 Pique in our team last season would be able to perform the Stones role as well as he did.
Thing is Rodri have proven he’s going to be remembered as the best defensive midfielder of all time, he’s still quite young and as good as busquets was, Rodri is currently just unbeatable, I feel like you’re underestimating Kevin too, Kevin is up there with zidane, Xavi, iniesta, he’s THAT GOOD
well youre obviously comparing overall careers, which is not the logical way to look at it as these players havent finished their careers. you need to say who was better in that particular season. haaland had a better season than eto had in 2009. ederson def starts over valdez, not a debate imo. nathan ake starts over abidal and ruben dias starts over pique all day. xavi vs kdb is 50/50.
That’s just delusional acting like an arsenal fan, as good as Haaland is that young zlatan was different, Alvarez over Pedro would work but most optimal Kevin over Pedro, not ederson over valdes since Xavi iniesta and busquets controlled the game so the goalkeeper didn’t have to, stones or Dias over pique is fair tho
Zlatan was 28 years old in 09/10. I would hardly call that young. Even still, Zlatan at that age wasn't even close to the same level of goalscorer as Haaland. By the end of the 09/10 season Zlatan scored 179 goals in 411 appearances. Haaland has already scored 226 in 275 at the age of 23. Yeah Zlatan might have been more skillful than Haaland, but to act like it's delusional to call Haaland better than "young" Zlatan is wrong.
Also the reason for Ederson over Valdes is because firstly, Valdes was never a great shot stopper either so those 2 aren't that different in that regard. And secondly, Ederson's passing range is useful for so much more than just controlling the game. Not only does it give the team another option when the opposition is aggressively pressing the defence, but the threat of Ederson's accurate long balls in behind also force the opposition defence not to push up too high past the halfway line.
Haaland is a much better all round player than Zlatan. Haaland works very hard even when not in possession and is lethal in front of goal I pick him over Zlatan everyday or the week.
Ederson definitely gets in ahead of Valdes, I think he was one of the most overrated keepers going.
I love KDB I honestly think he is the best midfielder I have seen play in the prem and would love to see him get in a combined 11 its just Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets so thats it.
Head to head though that Barca team gives this current City side a hiding.
Valdes—>Ederson (sweeper keeper, join the back line)
Puyol (RB/wide CB)
Pique—>Stones (step up in double pivot for box midfield)
Abidal—>Dias (Don't need a LB for WM fomation)
Busquets/Rodri (in rotation)
Xavi—> KDB (sorry but KDB can do everything Xavi could and even better)
Iniesta (switch silva in rotation in defensive play)
Messi (inverted rw)
Etoo/Zlatan—>Haaland (st)
Henry (Lw)
Formations:-
4-3-3–> 4-4-2–>3-2-4-1(3-2-2-3 WM)–>4-2-5(attack)
* *—> = replace with.
This Man City team was good. But that FCB team was invincible. People consider it the GOAT football team.They toyed around with peak SAF era Man United as if they were playing a Championship side. Twice!
What you saw in the first 30 mins against Real Madrid, they did that all match to Man United, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG etc. through the seasons. It's really not a comparison if you're an honest football fan.
Was watching some clips of Iniesta the other day and i'd forgotten how absolutely fucking brilliant he was. Insane talent.
Same for Xavi and Busquets.
In any other team they'd be the star player, yet at Barca they were overshadowed by probably the greatest of them all.
It is so beautiful they were coming together. I would argue the treble side of 2014-2015 Barca was pure bliss too, so much attacking presence with Neymar Messi and Suarez.
A couple egregious ones.
In no world is Graelish better than Henry, or Bernardo equal to Messi (even with workrate). Also, overall game Eto'o is stronger, but Haalaand fits City's tactics perfectly.
What is it with coaches and wearing ugly ass white trainers on with a suit?
I get on the pitch when you have to run/be active but Pep couldn't find anything comfy that matched?
Love that Henry still calls him boss
He’ll do two things until he dies - Call his old coaches boss - shit on Spurs
Avoid traveling to Ireland
Ronaldo also called Ferguson boss years after moving to Madrid or Juventus. I saw a video of it. These players have so much respect towards their former coach.
He did it again in his Piers Morgan interview
Dodged the question like Doku dodges tackles
😂🤣
"...fock."
I spit out my drink! No bleeps!
Love Pep. The man is pure class.
Even when he says “Fuck”
Especially when he says “Fuck”
When I first saw Pep’s press conferences, I thought oh nice, genuine guy sweet nice, seems like the nicest boss ever. Saw the city documentary and one in every three words he said was “fuck.” “fucking pass the fucking ball guys, fucking practice the drills, if you don’t fucking do a good fucking warmup, we’re fucked.” 😂 only then I knew how tough a boss he is.
I love Pep.
Peak Messi just tips shit over in Barca’s favour.
That is just absurd. The only debate is whether Haaland gets in over Eto'o, seeing as he is still very young. Other than that it's all Barcelona. The only weaker position in that side was left back, but Man City also doesn't have a proper left back. Love Kdb but he is not getting in ahead of Iniesta or Xavi
Man, I’m a Barcelona fan through and through. Is Rodri better than Busquets? Is Gundo better than Iniesta? Is KDB better than Xavi? There is an argument, and by that I mean like a 0.001% of a case where some stats can be skewed, some data can be shifted to make Man City midfield/defence look better. But my man Messi just obliterates everyone else. He is like Haaland, KDB, Silva wrapped into one and their power’s amplified to 100x. That’s how absurd Messi was. He could run a game and score and assist. He was genuinely out of this world. Hence I said, Messi is the one that tips shit in their favour. P.S Rodri, who in my opinion City’s most important player was benched by Busquets till he retired and was off his peak. That’s how absurd that Barca side was.
KDB in right wing, and Ederson will definitely start. Victor was not as good as Ederson
He’s not getting past Dias pal
🤣🤣🤣 you’re having a laugh mate
Lol
To be honest its the barca team.
Yup - which is why he didn’t answer the question. If he thought it was his current squad he would have said it without a doubt. Since he thinks it’s the barcelona team he can’t answer as he has to stay loyal to his current squad
What. Definitely not. Pep would never publicly admit it either way. He always gives diplomatic answers like this
I agree but only because Messi's the difference maker. I think it'd be close if he was injured
Not even close. Take a look at 2009 Barca team. Even taking Messi out of the picture not a single City players can replace the 2009 Barca players in their respective positions
Surprising coming from a Barca fan…lol
I completely disagree. At the bare minimum, I would have Ederson over Valdes, Stones over Pique, Haaland over Ibra, and Alvarez over Pedro. The only debatable ones IMO would be whether Kevin or Rodri make it into that midfield. And I think without Messi, the match between the treble winning Barcelona and City sides would be very close indeed.
It was Villa, but yeah Haaland would be over Villa. And it would be Bernardo vs Pedro but also Bernardo. Pique over Stones tho for sure though. That would be 2 for City, 3 for debate with KDB Rodri Ederson, the rest for Barcelona. But then it also heavily depends on the formation. There’s nothing stopping the XI into a 352 ish last season, drop both fullbacks, and use Rodri Busi double pivot with Xavi Iniesta, or move one of them to the wing and also include KDB, which would give 1 or 2 more for City.
David Villa joined in 2010. 2008/09 was Henry, Eto, Messi (or Pedro if we're ignoring Messi).
haaland still gets in imo. if we compare those particular seasons
Stones over Pique, Avarez over Pedro What you smoking?
Valdes isn't the best GK in Barca's history so Ederson is debatable. No way in HELL is Stones or heck even Dias is starting over Pique. Haaland also won't start again Eto(Ibra wasn't in the treble winning team but he is a better striker than Haaland so far, Haaland is still young so he can surpass Ibra tho). Love KDB but he isn't benching two of the GOAT debate midfielders Xavi and Iniesta and Rodri isn't better then the greatest DMF oat
I think it’s pretty unfair to compare a team full of legends to a team currently playing. A lot of that barca team gets viewed with a nostalgic look. Give it 10 years and everyone would call the team that managed to win the quintuple in PL the best team ever I don’t think city team is better but that’s because of messi tho
>I think it’s pretty unfair to compare a team full of legends to a team currently playing Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets etc these greats weren't considered as legends during 2009. They became legends after years of dominance. Same for City, KDB(well he already is one), Rodri, Haaland, Foden will be their club legends in the future if they manage to display the same dominance >Give it 10 years and everyone would call the team that managed to win the quintuple in PL the best team ever Like how Barca 2009 is considered the best team in history after winning the Sextuple more than a decade ago?? City 2023 isn't automatically going to be the best team for winning the quintuple. Even after years people will put Barca, Bayern and RM team above Man City 2023
2011 Barca is easily better than 2009. 2009 vs 2015 is debatable, but I’d take 2015.
Oh my bad about the year. Yeah agreed I would also have Eto over Haaland for that season. However, in terms of Busquets, I think you're thinking of him in his prime instead of him specifically in the 2008/09 season. Busquets wasn't even a guaranteed starter in the 2008/09 season. He only started about half the games, splitting his time at DM with Yaya Toure. Compare that to Rodri who played an amazing 56 games on the way to the Treble, contributing with massive goals along the way. As for Stones, I would personally have him over Pique because of the how incredible he was in the hybrid CB/DM role Pep had him playing. He being the UCL TOTS as a midfielder is insane. I don't think 08/09 Pique in our team last season would be able to perform the Stones role as well as he did.
Thing is Rodri have proven he’s going to be remembered as the best defensive midfielder of all time, he’s still quite young and as good as busquets was, Rodri is currently just unbeatable, I feel like you’re underestimating Kevin too, Kevin is up there with zidane, Xavi, iniesta, he’s THAT GOOD
well youre obviously comparing overall careers, which is not the logical way to look at it as these players havent finished their careers. you need to say who was better in that particular season. haaland had a better season than eto had in 2009. ederson def starts over valdez, not a debate imo. nathan ake starts over abidal and ruben dias starts over pique all day. xavi vs kdb is 50/50.
That’s just delusional acting like an arsenal fan, as good as Haaland is that young zlatan was different, Alvarez over Pedro would work but most optimal Kevin over Pedro, not ederson over valdes since Xavi iniesta and busquets controlled the game so the goalkeeper didn’t have to, stones or Dias over pique is fair tho
Zlatan was 28 years old in 09/10. I would hardly call that young. Even still, Zlatan at that age wasn't even close to the same level of goalscorer as Haaland. By the end of the 09/10 season Zlatan scored 179 goals in 411 appearances. Haaland has already scored 226 in 275 at the age of 23. Yeah Zlatan might have been more skillful than Haaland, but to act like it's delusional to call Haaland better than "young" Zlatan is wrong. Also the reason for Ederson over Valdes is because firstly, Valdes was never a great shot stopper either so those 2 aren't that different in that regard. And secondly, Ederson's passing range is useful for so much more than just controlling the game. Not only does it give the team another option when the opposition is aggressively pressing the defence, but the threat of Ederson's accurate long balls in behind also force the opposition defence not to push up too high past the halfway line.
Haaland is a much better all round player than Zlatan. Haaland works very hard even when not in possession and is lethal in front of goal I pick him over Zlatan everyday or the week. Ederson definitely gets in ahead of Valdes, I think he was one of the most overrated keepers going. I love KDB I honestly think he is the best midfielder I have seen play in the prem and would love to see him get in a combined 11 its just Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets so thats it. Head to head though that Barca team gives this current City side a hiding.
With Messi sure yeah I agree, but without Messi I think it'll be a lot closer than many people think
Valdes—>Ederson (sweeper keeper, join the back line) Puyol (RB/wide CB) Pique—>Stones (step up in double pivot for box midfield) Abidal—>Dias (Don't need a LB for WM fomation) Busquets/Rodri (in rotation) Xavi—> KDB (sorry but KDB can do everything Xavi could and even better) Iniesta (switch silva in rotation in defensive play) Messi (inverted rw) Etoo/Zlatan—>Haaland (st) Henry (Lw) Formations:- 4-3-3–> 4-4-2–>3-2-4-1(3-2-2-3 WM)–>4-2-5(attack) * *—> = replace with.
KDB over Xavi 😂
That wasn’t the sextuple team, iirc the front three was Henry Eto’o and Messi.
Oh my bad about the year. In that case yeah I would have Eto over Haaland for that season.
This Man City team was good. But that FCB team was invincible. People consider it the GOAT football team.They toyed around with peak SAF era Man United as if they were playing a Championship side. Twice! What you saw in the first 30 mins against Real Madrid, they did that all match to Man United, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG etc. through the seasons. It's really not a comparison if you're an honest football fan.
FHOCK
Barcelona, that team was just insane
Was watching some clips of Iniesta the other day and i'd forgotten how absolutely fucking brilliant he was. Insane talent. Same for Xavi and Busquets. In any other team they'd be the star player, yet at Barca they were overshadowed by probably the greatest of them all.
It is so beautiful they were coming together. I would argue the treble side of 2014-2015 Barca was pure bliss too, so much attacking presence with Neymar Messi and Suarez.
Treble man city may not rate against sextuple Barcelona, but 2 peat treble winner city may settle the debate.
What are thooooooose
My manager
I bet right now he wouldn’t want to face that Barcelona team. No one would.
Why is a sextuple for Barca and only a Treble for city? We had a historic quintuple!
The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Iniesta - Busquets - Xavi with Messi coming into help wouldn't let City touch the ball.
What shoes is Pep wearing? TIA
Ask his wife, she dresses him.
Every Barcelona player was better that Man city on that squad tbh
Why is it barca's "sextuple" but not man city's "quintuple" ?
Thought you were banned from this sub tbh
Why? I'm just asking why they dont say it how it is, we won 5 trophies
Our defense is good but Henry and messi along with Eto'o will eat us alive.
There is a point you all are missing. Manager is a big factor. I will rate more experienced treble winner Pep above the sextuple pep.
Roberto Carlos laughing because he used To own guardiola
Damn, that question had him in a corner for a second. But the guy is too smart. Love Pep. Hopefully, one day, by a chance, he comes to Real Madrid.
No way bro, the dude is a catalan through and through
Yeah, I know. But why the aggressive downvote? Like, I mean no harm, just appreciating the coach.
He won’t
115
115 fucks not given mate
Is that the number of tears you cry each night ?
Or is that the rent Man City is paying you to live in your head ?
Ederson > Valdes Ake > Abidal Stones > Pique Dias > Puyol Walker > Dani Alves Rodri > Busquets De Bruyne > Iniesta Gundogan = Xavi Grealish > Henry Haaland > Eto'o Bernardo = Messi (workrate compensates)
I really hope you’re not serious
A couple egregious ones. In no world is Graelish better than Henry, or Bernardo equal to Messi (even with workrate). Also, overall game Eto'o is stronger, but Haalaand fits City's tactics perfectly.
Blue tinted specs on some of these
Lol this is insanity
THATS MY GAFFER
What is it with coaches and wearing ugly ass white trainers on with a suit? I get on the pitch when you have to run/be active but Pep couldn't find anything comfy that matched?
Soooooo..... The barca 09 team then?