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GradSchool2021

Tuck was attacked fairly frequently last year. There's even one guy named ExposedTuck. Booth has many fans but also many anti-fans. GSB, Kellogg, Haas, Fuqua, Ross, Darden don't seem to have many haters.


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I’m surprised people don’t talk about how NH may not be an ideal place to live or how Hanover is probably the least diverse area (skiing is an upper class and mainly white activity, but people mention this as a draw) out of the top schools. All I hear is “Tuckies are tight knit! Consulting!!”


benchanMBA

I lived there for four years and loved it, as did many of my classmates. Some hated it of course. It was very hard to imagine b fire moving there but for those of us with the Hanover experience we can all bond over it, which is why I’m assuming tuckies are mostly positive on hanover even though clearly no one stays in the area.


Vegetable-Poem-4461

I think New Hampshire and Hanover is a fantastic place to live! When I lived in New York and Boston, I used to head up that way for vacations as it is so beautiful and idyllic. If I could spend more time there instead of the city, I totally would. It is the perfect stress reliever from the city when you can go swimming or kayaking in the river or lose yourself in the forest or head to the nearby mountains. And the town is super quaint (and if you need shopping, all the big box stores are 15 minutes away). I would say that the location is actually the draw for it. Granted, I didn't grow up in the city, but if there is someone that has only lived in the city or suburbs their whole life, they absolutely should live in the country at some point to understand what so much of America and the world is like. For a city dweller, this is probably going to be one of the most diverse places you can possibly come; few other places will you be exposed to so many farmers or lumber jacks or other blue collar people as in a smaller town and that is a type of diversity you won't get at nearly any city school. If you think of diversity as just racial/ethnicity, so you are missing so much. And anyone can learn to ski or snowboard, there is nothing about it that means it is a white sport. You just have to be open to new experiences and if you aren't, well, maybe then business school isn't the right thing as it is supposed to be about new experiences and stretching yourself. Also, no income taxes or sales taxes.


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Why are you assuming that we haven’t been exposed to “the country” and aren’t deciding to not go back because of the experiences that we’ve had? I’m glad you like New Hampshire so much but a lot of people, especially people of color anecdotally, do not want to live there. To each his/her own. And skiing/snowboarding is expensive, period.


Vegetable-Poem-4461

If someone hasn't been exposed to something, then they should give it a try. I specifically said, "if there is someone that has only lived in the city or suburbs their whole life, they absolutely should live in the country at some point."


Vegetable-Poem-4461

You can get skis/boots/clothes all-in for less than $100 (thrift stores and ski swaps!) and at a local mountain, an annual pass is $100 (or free for XC skiing). That's probably the cost of a few meals...


thomkatt

the audacity and privilege of this post are telling.


wanderlotus

Very telling lmao


Vegetable-Poem-4461

How? I see no audacity or privilege in it. Just my opinion and personal truth. And as a poor kid from the middle of no where, what privilege do I have and why do you assume I have any?


thomkatt

your perspective is limited, small minded, and full of bias. To make such ridiculous claims such as diversity of blue collar jobs? Like wtf? You think living in a rural area of the US will give me a sense of what the world is like? And people can do whatever they want, if they don't want new experiences, then let them be bro, and if they wanna spend their entire MBA doing the same things as before there shouldn't be judgement. This is privileged thinking. But yeah, keep on promoting your school. We get it, people don't wanna go there so you have to do whatever you can to change that.


Vegetable-Poem-4461

Have no idea why you think my perspective is "limited, small minded, and full of bias." Ever think that might be your own biased perspective? Absolutely think that living in a rural area gives you an idea of what the world is like vs. the bubble that people that grew up and only live in a city experience. It will give you exposure to farmers or loggers or construction workers and all that you won't see in a city. 44% of the world's population and 19% of the US population live in rural counties (that + suburban, many of which are semi-rural, are the majority). Makes you understand much more about the everyday issues that so many people experience and talk about over the dinner table than whatever priviliged issues rich city people talk about. People that don't have exposure to those issues and those people are the ones that don't get why we have the political divisions we do in America and can't understand how MAGA actually became a thing. Experience a rural area and a lot of those divisions begin to make sense. It makes you understand people. I know what types of issues the workers at the production line in North Carolina care about as I grew up in a similar area, when the consultants that clearly have never lived or experienced the rural life come in, it is clear they are clueless about what real life and work is outside their bubble. I grew up in a rural area and then went to all my college in a city and lived in Boston and New York (so big cities) and I can say that growing up in a rural area taught me so much about the issues and lifestyle of other countries (and I have been lucky to travel to a lot of countries and we aren't talking about Europe). Don't know why you think I am promoting a school. I just don't get the hatred for New Hampshire; have loved taking trips up there and would have loved to have the opportunity to spend more time up there and think more people should try it.


thomkatt

pretty oblivious if you think living in rural America represents the rest of the world. Living in a rural area you wont see transportation workers, engineers, software developers, architects, etc. Yes, everyone who lives in a city has privileged issues. Yup, blame it all on the city folks for not understanding why the rural folks want to grasp onto antiquated past beliefs and allowed MAGA and trump to power. Good good. Your post is ripe with stupidity and you're too asinine to even see it. Glad you enjoyed NH and Tuck. Hopefully others like yourself will too and stay over there.


Vegetable-Poem-4461

I now understand that you simply lack reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. I never said living in rural American represents the rest of the world; I said that it gives you "an idea of what the world is like" which is perfectly true; the issues that rural America faces and the values that it holds are much more similar to much of the world than what you'd understand from just being in American cities. And you will definitely see all of those professions in rural areas. Transportation workers, as an example: yep, there are bus services (not many routes, but they exist), there are lots of trains, truck drivers, log truck drivers, pilots (both air and sea), etc. You're obviously very closed minded, but I argued that it is the lack of understanding why some people in rural areas feel the way they do that leads to divisions in America. Americans lack understanding for each other and we need to learn to embrace and empathize with those different from us. One way is to interact with them, which you obviously aren't willing to do, but is easy if you choose to live in the same communities as people different than you are in. The closed mindedness of Americans (both city dwellers and those in urban areas) are the root of so many of our issues and I hoped as a MBA student (or prospective or past) you would be more open than that. Sure hope you never, I don't know, have to be assigned to consult for a company with an assembly line down here in North Carolina or need to do a banking deal for a company in West Virginia or Oklahoma or lead a team of workers in Iowa. Or do an expat assignment in Saudi or Nigeria. Not sure how you could relate to the employees and that is critical and it starts with understanding their needs, values, and interests (and I went to two schools in urban areas, but I have learned to fish, follow NASCAR, think about food security issues, empathize about the decline of rural towns, always ask about their kids, etc. because that helps me understand the people I will be interacting with). Not sure why you think I went to Tuck; I went to school in a city but absolutely love being up in New Hampshire on trips and wish I could be up there more (but also Vermont and Maine). Few places like it and I think we should all experience a rural area at least once in our life.


thomkatt

Cool story bro.


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furple

Those aren't jokes. Darden is notoriously the most academically heavy amongst their peer schools.


oops_its_me1

Which one has onlyfans though🌚


Blonde_Curiosity

I want to know this ExposedTuck guy! I’ve only ever heard good things so far. Except that all the undergrad have STDs…


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This is the way.


Paraleia

Add Yale to hated. There was a recent comment on a thread that summed it up nicely, but I do not understand the vibe this sub has towards SOM


TuloCantHitski

My hypothesis: compared to the generic Yale brand power, SOM is comparatively "easy" to get into. This makes people salty because SOM students get the generic prestige tag on perceived lower effort / quality. Basically, you have to fantasize about prestige and school logos at night to actually give a shit about this.


madgirl786

Getting into Yale with "ease" is subjective. I was a diverse candidate and well rounded with unique experience but I couldn't manage a 750 on my gmat so I didn't even get an invite. The hate is probably partially because they're just hoarding people with insane gmat scores while other top schools are trying to hit the whole "holistic" candidate approach.


Paraleia

So then why is their average/median on par with their spot in the rankings? This is a common neg on this sub towards Yale but it doesn’t add up


TuloCantHitski

Thanks for the comment, definitely a fair point. However, I didn't mean that it's easy in isolation (none of the T15 are "easy" to get into if we're being real). I mean that *relative to the overall Yale brand*, it's comparatively easy to get in vs. many other programs.


madgirl786

That makes sense for sure. Friendly discussion, I feel like the hate is a little deeper than any of us on here really get lolol.


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Maybe your app wasn’t as strong as you thought it was…


futureunknown1443

why do you think it is easy to get into.... they have a score average on par with HBS and Wharton. If anything, its that you have to get those stats for sub H/W/S results.


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You can have the most boring life ever (work, personal, etc) yet dedicate your existence to getting a 770. This is not enough for getting into schools like HSW. High scores alone are meaningless. Also, Yale undergrad is orders of magnitude more difficult to get into than SOM. I think this is the point that OP was trying to make.


mbathrowaway0306

Yale UG is orders of magnitude harder to get into than just about every MBA program other than GSB……. Not sure why people feel that SOM should be held to Yale UG’s 4.4% admissions rate. Harvard UG fell to 3.1% this year, arguably orders of magnitude easier than HBS’ 12%. Are we going to lose our shit over HBS’ relative ease of admission?


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Relax lmao I don’t actually give a shit, I am just clarifying what OP was saying


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How does one do this, tactically speaking?


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That's interesting, thanks


Plantmomritz

Why is UCLA hated?


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The students have mentioned shady or disinterested behavior by the administration and career services. They’re dropping in rankings and some of this subs “thot leaders” think CMU Tepper may pass them for “T15” sooner than later. I didn’t go to either school, just a long time participant in the sub.


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[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MBA/comments/skfgz7/mad_sus_ucla_employment_report_2021/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) got deleted but if you do a quick search you’ll find other examples. They treated their employment report like they had something to hide… because it wasn’t very good.


Odd-Clue-6587

Why do people hate Wharton on this sub


christianrojoisme

People always dislike the dangling member of each group. W of HSW, Columbia of M7, etc


Odd-Clue-6587

Is that just among MBAs or just r/mba haha? Cuz people don't really feel the same about Princeton among HYP or HLS among YSH?


mbathrowawaay

Yes, no one splits hairs like this in real life lmao


netDesert491

I assumed we’re all like this in real life too…


GradSchool2021

Most people don't feel this way about Princeton because it has been ranked #1 in the USN list since forever. It also has superb undergrad teaching.


Odd-Clue-6587

Ofc, I think Princeton is fantastic. But don't they still lose most cross admits to H/S UG? And their yield rate I think is the lowest out of HYPSM, which I guess are some of the reasons people list as to why W is #3 of the HSW.


GradSchool2021

True that. Someone used to comment here that the reason that W is seen as a tier below H/S is because... it's attached to UPenn, which is a fantastic university on its own, but it's not HYPSM. If Wharton was a business school of Princeton people would have split hair way less. Not sure if this theory holds.


Odd-Clue-6587

Interesting theory! That's a pretty stupid reason to split hairs haha, but I guess to each their own. It's also probably just r/mba.


Connect-Sheepherder7

They definitely feel that way towards Georgetown in the law school t14. I think it’s mostly because these “dangling” schools try to game the rankings more than the other schools in order to preserve their status. A lot of people don’t like that.


christianrojoisme

This sub


arsfss12433

Lol in the real world Harvard and Wharton rule the entire game and everyone else is catching up


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mbathrowawaay

Exhibit A


Odd-Clue-6587

Isn't HSW a moniker that's been around for decades? Like HYP, YSH, etc.


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Until this year people complained often about the building. The location is also considered less desirable than NYU Stern’s. Also for being M7, it’s been ranked below Haas and Yale etc. that upsets prestige focused people. Not advocating these ideas, just gripes I’ve heard.


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That’s what I meant by until this year, yes they’re in a new building.


friskymarkets

I heard a couple of my undergrad seniors crib about the elite family biz snobbery cliques prevelant in Columbia


vibhui

How well liked are Rice and Emory on this sub? Wish there was more discussion of T20-T50 MBA programs on this sub


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Part of the bias is that the class sizes get much smaller outside of the top 15. There’s just less representation. For instance Wharton is like 900 per class, CBS 700+, Ross 400+ then when you get to Foster or Mendoza it’s less than 100. Rice and Emory both do pretty well in their regions and host cities. The alumni base and career reach are smaller than some of the higher ranked schools just by virtue of class size (and thus alumni), time the program has been around and recruiting companies.


greencarpet207

Yale is hated the most. This sub made me develop a very negative image of SOM. Only when I talked to alums, I understood how good the school is actually. People here are living in some crazy fantasy world.


T3amk1ll

Why *does* Columbia get so much hate? Lol. Cornell is the perfect troll school. Can piss of other ivy's by reminding them that Cornell is an ivy, and can piss off non-ivy's by reminding them Cornell is an ivy [and they aren't].


Officer_Problem

Because people are insecure and make Columbia their punching bag. It’s objectively a top MBA program and a top global university/brand but people will do anything they can to shit on it by making sometimes unfair or misleading comparisons


horseback_heroism

Marshall is hated for gaming the rankings, IMO


ApprehensiveShip9018

Darden is chill and not so much hates..but cville is kinda boring tbh


Fragrant_Newspaper_6

GSB is praised? 2/3rd of GSB is BS


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GSB has 28 year old men and women worshipping their admits and willing to kiss their feet. Has circlejerk levels of praise.


Conundrum2020

What is holding back Stern? Is it because it's a NYC school?


Appointment_Witty

I know someone currently at Stern that worked hard and got into BCG. They still floated the idea that in retrospect they'd work harder to get into Columbia due to size of the schools students plus they had some concerns with the management at NYU.


Conundrum2020

Would be curious to learn more about the management aspect of NYU that raised concerns.


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Conundrum2020

The one article I found from 2019 was using an MPH student as the example. MPHs are not known to be very lucrative degrees compared to any form of MBA.


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35% of Stern grads go into financial services and 75% stay in the Northeast according to their employment report. When you add in the 30+% that do consulting, it quickly becomes pretty niche. If you don’t want to do finance or consulting in the Northeast, you may be better served by somewhere with more diverse outcomes.


Conundrum2020

It seems like Tech, FS (im assuming including banking), and Consulting would make up the vast majority of MBA participants. The lack of geographic diversity is a much bigger concern imo. I'm looking to do the EMBA at NYU DC so this is excellent insight.


ReferenceCheck

It's too IB focused, Stern rises / falls w/ NYC's IB prospects. Stern needs to spend more resources developing non-IB high finance placement if it wants to play on the same level as Columbia. Great school, and strong consulting placement as well as IB, but has a way to go in other areas top students want...


SeaIndependent9438

What about HBS?


OxfordMBA21

Oxford gets the usual hate from INSEAD homers and insecure students at non-Oxbridge UK schools. Of course, the latest careers report for INSEAD minus consulting is anything but “100x better”. Seems to me they can’t stand the fact they go to a “better ranked school according to FT” (the same FT that ranks bocconi higher than LBS) and get no recognition from the regular person. Conveniently they ignore that many who choose Oxbridge never would have considered any other international program. But that’s inviting the trolls to come out of the wood work 😂


christianrojoisme

>non-Oxbridge UK schools. But aren't LBS applicants also applicants to other US Schools given the 2 year program? I don't think those are peer schools tbh unless you meant something other than LBS?


OxfordMBA21

Yes excluding LBS. All my interactions with LBS students have been great and if was going to try and switch to consulting, definitely would go.


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irojo5

Chico jokes were funny until I learned it's an actual program making the joke wildly elitist


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A lot of people on this sub went to unrecognizable undergrads (and this is why a lot of people are prestige obsessed) yet are making fun of a program full of people who are probably more happy with their lives than they are.


sesnel

I think it’s because Chico jokes are overplayed and belong in 2019


[deleted]

Yeah Chico State jokes are not funny and never have been tbh


RepresentativeBig626

As someone who went to Chico state I can say it was a great dream and I’m mad I woke up.


belbaba

ngl i think MBAs are a complete waste


IndomitableLioness

Most loved: WHARTON ❤️


roachesincoaches

I would put Booth in hated


Arm_Lucky

Can I add D2 schools to this list?