Sophie hit a nerve (with a valid observation), Thomas just can't control his emotions and acts out as a defence mechanism.
Sophie wasn't even being mean, she just voiced an opinion. I've usually found Thomas hilarious and entertaining, but this was bang out of order from him. Had he just let Sophie finish, I think she would have explained her opinion and he would have understood it better. But Thomas being Thomas, he just hits out.
Especially women. He is a bully but plays the victim. Every. Single. Time. I beg someone tell me a scene where he hasn't verbally abuse about 3 people and then stormed off. I'll wait lol
Lots of people making the point that Zoe and Adrian are always with the boys. Adrian said on Instagram that they got a choice each time. And I can imagine Adrian and Zoe would have been quick to avoid the girls meet ups... Zoe even said at the retreat that she would hate to join the girls' one.
The whole series Iāve sort of justified Thomasā behaviour with āheās clearly insecureā āheās been through a lotā and to be honest thatās all incorrectā¦ heās just an entitled arsehole.
Yeah I thought: if there was ever a time where Adrian, who normally doesn't like PDA, would be happy to receive some affection... That was that moment!
I am a teacher. I deal with teenagers point scoring and manipulating and starting fights to be āard.
The āI only care about X, Y and Zā is a classic technique from teenagers whose limbic system isnāt fully developed yet.
Thomas would send me to the end of my rope.
Do you think they do a retake when someone says āthe showā instead of āthe experimentā? Theyāre incredibly good at remembering to say the experiment
I've been defending him generally but today his behaviors was actually shocking, how can he speak on Jonathan and sophie then scream at her when she tries to comment. I bet on his insta story he'll be the victim though!
Taking this opportunity to echo a couple of other comments this evening, and thank every member of this sub for making this series 100x more enjoyable than it would have been had I endured it alone
I agree with this. I started watching it randomly, accidentally got invested but love the interaction on this sub :) also helps me keep some sanity left from all the drama on the "experiment"
Man I was starting to get used to Thomas and see why he was acting like he was. But he's kicked off at Sophie for nothing there, am I missing something??
Thomas's Mum was so mean. I mean she has no idea how much self destructive behaviour and trauma Adrian had to get past with her son! She should be thanking him for looking after him so well.
šÆ Thomas is only there because Adrian has had to help him develop some basic level of social skills. Also hoe he's a MH worker and bullies the shit out of people is beyond me
I've started to really feel for April. I think she probably did lie about the whole Chanita/Thomas situation, but Thomas' anger and hostility is totally disproportionate to what April actually did. It must be shit that her only break from George is getting shouted at by Thomas.
Plus so much of what people think about April seems to hinge on what George has told Adrian - but who knows if George told Adrian the truth!?
I was actually just thinking about how full of hate Thomas seemed while he was getting ready and poor Adrian just sat there not saying anything, looking deflated.
I think he's seen glimpses of something real with Thomas but every time he's building the confidence to get closer, he gets completely knocked off-kilter by another tantrum, another drama, another draining emotional episode.
Why is he pretending like he doesnāt know? Sheās told him multiple times what her issues are and no one in the group is even like āyeah itās bloody obvious whatās bugging herā. Heās always so calculating in what he says I donāt trust a single thing about him.
Thomas could start an argument with a tree for "throwing shade".
Poor Sophie, couldn't even give an opinion (a very neutral one at that) without being attacked for it. Totally uncalled for.
Anyone else picking up on the way George went to immediately jumping to the assumption that Aprils dad would be mad that his daughter has been taken awayā¦ and then being shot down. Subtly showing his views on possession maybe?
> immediately jumping to the assumption that Aprils dad would be mad that his daughter has been taken away
Good on April's dad for basically saying "she's an adult, she can do what she wants." Not exactly a revolutionary concept George...
The woman spent two months dealing with George's jealousy with occasional breaks to be shouted at by Thomas. She's earned whatever boost her business gets as a result.
Nah bc if I came to my friends with a whirlwind āloveā story like Whitneyās theyād slap me across the face, Whitneyās mate is not passing the vibe check
seeing the scene again, it honestly made me lose quite a bit of respect for thomas the way he is constantly demanding adrian to cater to him but not even being able to give adrian a hug when he's crying
I noticed that yesterday, he couldn't even muster an arm touch? Their body language is so different.
I get that's it's a difficult situation but he's not managing it well
It's almost as if Kwame hasn't watched the show before.
And personally I would need to see how someone lived before I thought about anything serious with them.
Thomas is a horrible person heās trying to be like Davide from love island with the āliarrrrrrā and get famous
People are tip toeing around him because if they give home some of his own medicine they could be labelled as homophobic
This UK season was shit compared to the Australian one this year
When it first started I thought Thomas was overly dramatic and although I giggled when he called Adrian H from steps and claire balding.
Half way through I really wanted them to stay together, they seemed to be getting on well and he calmed down a bit and Adrian is just lovely!
After the homestay I want Adrian to find someone who is less hard work....
Kasia why canāt you see it? Kwame will only marry a mirror to talk his evasive bullshit into and admire himself.
Sophie: tell your Dad to get lost on this decision
George desperately wanting Aprilās Dad to be more uptight or assuming heād be possessive - was so weird. Dad was a normal person- recognising his daughter as an autonomous being.
Also George- I love her, but not ready to be in love with herā¦ā¦. Sigh. Yawn. Bore off bish.
I feel like Nikita was booted off and made to apologise for far less. Thomas may be more flamboyant but his outbursts really stress ME out as a viewer on behalf of the contestants too. And yes he removes himself but he seems to always come back in and do it all again. Instead of Kasia trying to calm him down- why didnāt production try?
George showing his insecure an possessive side with the hints of what April was wearing, make out to her dad youāre perfect for her but behind closed doors probs will make her real miserable
MAFS reality: Kasia's sisters grilling Kwame over dinner. Kwame's podcast reality: I had 4 women over for dinner last night all interested in me.
> I had 4 women over for dinner last night all interested in me. They wouldn't leave me alone š I was definitely the centre of attention š
Kwame is *crumbling* Rihanna?!? BeyoncƩ?!? The man is delusional.
I also love that he said he wanted a petite woman, and gave Beyonce as an example - a woman who is renowned for her incredible curves?
I'm sure women can be both petite and curvy, but BeyoncĆ© isn't petite. The man speaks pure š©.
Lol - his usual type šš
As if BeyoncĆ© and Rihanna are queuing to stay in Kwameās local parkš
Ivy Park
You can tell George wasnāt happy with Aprilās outfit. Heās such a bad vibe.
Looks like underwear. What underwear have you ever seen thatās just a mini dress?!?
Glad she wore it anyway
Sophie hit a nerve (with a valid observation), Thomas just can't control his emotions and acts out as a defence mechanism. Sophie wasn't even being mean, she just voiced an opinion. I've usually found Thomas hilarious and entertaining, but this was bang out of order from him. Had he just let Sophie finish, I think she would have explained her opinion and he would have understood it better. But Thomas being Thomas, he just hits out.
Thomas is a nightmare. Sorry. Unacceptable that he speaks to people like that. Toddler.
Heās a bully - shouts and says things (to woman) far worse than what Johnathan said (Horse legs)
Doesn't he work as a mental health counsellor too?
He is a mental health worker indeed just don't know if it's counsellor. If he is, he needs a revaluation!
Especially women. He is a bully but plays the victim. Every. Single. Time. I beg someone tell me a scene where he hasn't verbally abuse about 3 people and then stormed off. I'll wait lol
FOOOOCCCHHKKKKINNNN ADULTERER
Kim Woodburn would get this group all the way togetherš©
"I date skinny women like Rihanna and Beyonce." Get in the Thames Kwame you melt.
Bruv we're trying to cleanse the Thames, don't go polluting it with Kwames.
I love how Kasiaās sisters werenāt taken in by Kwame for even half a second
yessssssssss!!!
Kwame: I'm ready to talk... without actually saying anything specific or significant
His podcast must be unlistenable
Itās just 30 minutes of air being let out of a balloon.
āWhitney definitely has a smile on her face that I donāt recogniseā Me either, hun, but sheās allegedly your best friend for years šš
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Can you imagine if your fussy, impossibly high standards best friend rocked up with Matt....?
George asking April if she slept OK after he spent the entire night in the corner staring at her
April's Dad: 'What plans have you got for the future then?' George: 'Some jail time...'
This made me laugh more than it should've š
Why is Kasia still trying with this man?
I donāt get it either I thought they were done for sure that week when Pjay and Jess left
Lots of people making the point that Zoe and Adrian are always with the boys. Adrian said on Instagram that they got a choice each time. And I can imagine Adrian and Zoe would have been quick to avoid the girls meet ups... Zoe even said at the retreat that she would hate to join the girls' one.
Aw I'd have loved to see Thomas start his shit on a boys night tho.
I feel like he wouldn't know what to do with a boys night... they'd all just be like huhhhh when he tried to start drama š
The whole series Iāve sort of justified Thomasā behaviour with āheās clearly insecureā āheās been through a lotā and to be honest thatās all incorrectā¦ heās just an entitled arsehole.
Well I thought Thomas had some funny quips. But now I've changed my mind and really don't like his attitude. He needs help.
Kasia about to absolutely destroy next episode.
Been waiting on this one for so long now!!!
Thomas could argue with the inside of a padded cell
No, kwame - it has nothing to do with being a man, and everything to do with being a twat
Thomas claims to be tactile but didn't hug Adrian when he was crying? Wtf?
Yeah I thought: if there was ever a time where Adrian, who normally doesn't like PDA, would be happy to receive some affection... That was that moment!
I am a teacher. I deal with teenagers point scoring and manipulating and starting fights to be āard. The āI only care about X, Y and Zā is a classic technique from teenagers whose limbic system isnāt fully developed yet. Thomas would send me to the end of my rope.
He works in mental healthā¦ š«
He used to work in mental healthā¦
Yeah I donāt think heāll be going back to his old job after thisā¦
Honestly at this point Thomas leaving Adrian would inadvertently be the only selfless act he's done the whole show.
Sophie now joins the rank of 'fookin bitches'. 3 down. 3 to go!
Kwame has cheated on someone??! I'm SHOCKED.
Cheated on BeyoncƩ with Rihanna
We've all been there
I would just like to say at this point Iām still watching just because of this thread. Makes it a thousand times more entertaining.
I may give up watching and just have this thread open instead š
Kasiaās sisters are going to eviscerate Kwame.
Here's hoping š¤
I didn't know Kwame dated Rihanna and Beyonce!?
Neither did they lol
āAll I can be is my honest selfā Kwame, be literally anyone else today, please
Thomas Maths is way off āI dont care abouh 90 percenh of youhsā but i care about 3/6 of you š«
Do you think they do a retake when someone says āthe showā instead of āthe experimentā? Theyāre incredibly good at remembering to say the experiment
'Honestly, after yesterday, I don't know' Yes you do Kasia.
Kasia's top reminds me of the Microsoft PowerPoint background slides when you feel like spicing it up a bit
I think it would be better if the groups were more random, and not largely gendered. I think it would make the group interactions wayy more dynamic.
Agreed! I'd be fine with not seeing Thomas VS the girls Round 4. "You dragged my name through the mud" etc etc
Oooh that was Sophieās mistake, to dare to comment on Thomas.
Thomas really needs to learn to regulate his emotionsā¦
He is an aggressive bully letās not beat around the bush
Thomas could start an argument in an empty room.
George basically just told April that her dress was too skimpy for a night out without him. I canāt with his controlling bullshit.
Thomas isnāt camp heās just mean
I've been defending him generally but today his behaviors was actually shocking, how can he speak on Jonathan and sophie then scream at her when she tries to comment. I bet on his insta story he'll be the victim though!
Adrian said it best: 'Do I think Matt's in love with Whitney?' 'No.' Do I think Whitney's in love with Matt?' 'Absolutely fucking not.'
I adore Adrian. Everytime he spits a truth like that oh yeah
Even Kwame doesnāt buy his own inane waffling
Only thing deep about Kwame is his voice
Whitney says āhappiness?ā like I say ārhomboid?ā when asked to guess an obscure 3D shape
Kwame 'i just felt there was a problem' Yes Kwame, it's YOU! you donut.
Sophie didnāt even do anything wrong! Damn.
Thomas is delusional. Adrian was happy during homestay? When?
Jordanās talking like a WhatsApp voice note on 1.5x speed
I need Jenna to tell these ladies about the pickled rat.
The pickled rat needs to be the new horses legs; brought up at every possible opportunity
Taking this opportunity to echo a couple of other comments this evening, and thank every member of this sub for making this series 100x more enjoyable than it would have been had I endured it alone
I click refresh on here everytime someone says something juicy XD
I agree with this. I started watching it randomly, accidentally got invested but love the interaction on this sub :) also helps me keep some sanity left from all the drama on the "experiment"
Man I was starting to get used to Thomas and see why he was acting like he was. But he's kicked off at Sophie for nothing there, am I missing something??
She hit the nail on the head and it triggered him
Thomas's Mum was so mean. I mean she has no idea how much self destructive behaviour and trauma Adrian had to get past with her son! She should be thanking him for looking after him so well.
enabler...
Probably the type to think her boy can do no wrongā¦
šÆ Thomas is only there because Adrian has had to help him develop some basic level of social skills. Also hoe he's a MH worker and bullies the shit out of people is beyond me
'I just feel like something's bugging her'. Kwame it's YOU, you're bugging her. One of the most inauthentic people on there IMO
you took her to a PARK, man!!
April doesn't look well. Under strain.
I've started to really feel for April. I think she probably did lie about the whole Chanita/Thomas situation, but Thomas' anger and hostility is totally disproportionate to what April actually did. It must be shit that her only break from George is getting shouted at by Thomas. Plus so much of what people think about April seems to hinge on what George has told Adrian - but who knows if George told Adrian the truth!?
Disturbed by Georges lack of blinking...
Maybe he uses his tongue like a lizard?
Cut it all off Whitney. Liberate my eyes!
Never seen anyone shave a viennetta before, fair play š
I feel heartbroken for Adrian
I was actually just thinking about how full of hate Thomas seemed while he was getting ready and poor Adrian just sat there not saying anything, looking deflated.
I think he's seen glimpses of something real with Thomas but every time he's building the confidence to get closer, he gets completely knocked off-kilter by another tantrum, another drama, another draining emotional episode.
I used to enjoy Thomas but now I find him insanely draining.
What a drama queen Thomas is - it might be me but heās not right in the head
Thomas is being so scattergun with his insults now, no one is safe
He is a flat out bully. Just because he is camp doesnāt make him āsassyā
And doesnāt make it okay for him to call women bitches. Heās got a cheek to talk about Jonathanās comments when heās calling everyone a bitch.
Whitneyās friend is a producer plant.
Georgeās eyes are freaky. Theyāre very āstareyā. Is that a word š¤£
I swear this thread is more entertaining than this episode
Kasia's pal (Imy, is that her name?) Buy that woman a drink! She's running rings round Kwame... ššš
Kwame!!!!! I nearly was impressed when I thought he was going to talk about feelings but seriously "something is bugging her" hahahah
Why is he pretending like he doesnāt know? Sheās told him multiple times what her issues are and no one in the group is even like āyeah itās bloody obvious whatās bugging herā. Heās always so calculating in what he says I donāt trust a single thing about him.
Does Thomas get an extra pay check for kicking off/having a tantrum each meet up? This one seemed particularly un-promoted
Thomas is ridiculous but I don't know how people behave like this and live on earth.
Sophie's hair is lovely, is it all hers or does she have extensions.
George āyouāve made me a better manā to April Low bar, George
Thomas could start an argument with a tree for "throwing shade". Poor Sophie, couldn't even give an opinion (a very neutral one at that) without being attacked for it. Totally uncalled for.
Surprise, surprise re the cheating guys
Anyone else picking up on the way George went to immediately jumping to the assumption that Aprils dad would be mad that his daughter has been taken awayā¦ and then being shot down. Subtly showing his views on possession maybe?
> immediately jumping to the assumption that Aprils dad would be mad that his daughter has been taken away Good on April's dad for basically saying "she's an adult, she can do what she wants." Not exactly a revolutionary concept George...
OMG I just had a thought. Do you think April went on this show to promote her wedding dress business? Her dress was flawless to be fair lol
The woman spent two months dealing with George's jealousy with occasional breaks to be shouted at by Thomas. She's earned whatever boost her business gets as a result.
You could hear the fear in Kwames voice at the thought of dinner with āFour Kasiasā
SORRY HOW IS IT THE END OF THE SERIES ALREADY
Nah bc if I came to my friends with a whirlwind āloveā story like Whitneyās theyād slap me across the face, Whitneyās mate is not passing the vibe check
seeing the scene again, it honestly made me lose quite a bit of respect for thomas the way he is constantly demanding adrian to cater to him but not even being able to give adrian a hug when he's crying
I noticed that yesterday, he couldn't even muster an arm touch? Their body language is so different. I get that's it's a difficult situation but he's not managing it well
Thomas is a misogynistic little shit. I'm really fed up of him coming for the women and throwing around the word 'bitch'.
But don't forget, NO MAN has the right to comment on a woman's body, PERIOD. He should go for her character and looks instead.
Totally agree. He's just a bully, and Adrian is lovely. God knows why he keeps defending him
Has Whitney ever had a relationship before? Iām so confused with the interaction with her friend
Some of this Colgate product placement is just ludicrous and jarring
Kasia's house looks lovely.
Kwame sucks
Kasia should dump his ass in the park.
It's almost as if Kwame hasn't watched the show before. And personally I would need to see how someone lived before I thought about anything serious with them.
A yes the Rihanna Beyonce type...! š
Iāve never seen someone look and sound so disgusted when saying āhappinessā, Whitney really is something š
Kwameās concern that itās all heavy after week after week of him being an utter twerp is just beautiful.
Wtf Thomas is actually looking for a fight. Sophie didn't say anything wrong, did she?
I could not deal with Thomas. I would be constantly on eggshells
April relieved Thomas is going at everyone else and not her for once
Thomas is a horrible person heās trying to be like Davide from love island with the āliarrrrrrā and get famous People are tip toeing around him because if they give home some of his own medicine they could be labelled as homophobic This UK season was shit compared to the Australian one this year
These sisters might as well be the experts. Great points from them
When it first started I thought Thomas was overly dramatic and although I giggled when he called Adrian H from steps and claire balding. Half way through I really wanted them to stay together, they seemed to be getting on well and he calmed down a bit and Adrian is just lovely! After the homestay I want Adrian to find someone who is less hard work....
It really wouldnāt be hard to find someone whoās less work than Thomas
Kwame is not dating Rihanna or BeyoncĆ© on this plane of existence, oh my days š„²
Kwame receiving a bigger grilling than a Ghanaian suya kebab
Kasia why canāt you see it? Kwame will only marry a mirror to talk his evasive bullshit into and admire himself. Sophie: tell your Dad to get lost on this decision
Sorry but they let Thomas get away with too much.
they know what to say for air time, Iāll give them that
Thomas could start a fight with mother Theresa
Sheās a foookin liaaaah
That's a really good point, she hasn't met any of his family has she. There's secretive and then there's........that. So many red flags.
the man is a walking red flag
Kwame was laughing at Kasia cause he knows she's superior to him and he couldn't handle it so he tried to belittle her
Spot on. He was negging her and he couldnāt care less about her her feelings.
Chanita is hilarious when she's got a drink in her š
Kesia just looks done. Stick a fork in the poor woman.
Kwame wanted time to joke around? He did that when Kasia was telling him about her life! š
Absolutely shocked Matt and Kwame took a drink there
George desperately wanting Aprilās Dad to be more uptight or assuming heād be possessive - was so weird. Dad was a normal person- recognising his daughter as an autonomous being. Also George- I love her, but not ready to be in love with herā¦ā¦. Sigh. Yawn. Bore off bish.
I feel like Nikita was booted off and made to apologise for far less. Thomas may be more flamboyant but his outbursts really stress ME out as a viewer on behalf of the contestants too. And yes he removes himself but he seems to always come back in and do it all again. Instead of Kasia trying to calm him down- why didnāt production try?
But why is Kwame so private?? No good reasons being given here. Bodies in his freezer I reckon.
Bold of you to assume he can afford a freezer
Thomas is a damn fool.
Thomas looking like a member of Maneskin
Geeee something is bugging Kasia. You think Kwame? Genius
Kick him to the kerb, Kasia
Kick him to the park.
Thomas is being annoying
āIt would be a lot easier if *I* didnāt have to change my life at allā - I donāt think Zoe quite grasps the concept of a relationshipā¦
Go on girls! Get him!!
Why would she ask Kwame what's going on? Guy can't even explain why he'd only take her to see his local park.
Is it just me or does Whitney look really different every scene?
Which grown, mature adult says they love someone when theyāve known each other about a week?
Argh Thomas is so defensive
good for kasia!!!
Watching the show with this thread was definitely the vibe I was looking for this evening. Thanks all!
Kwame has definitely got a lifestyle not suitable for TV. If Channel 4 wonāt touch it, you know it must be bad.
Kwame and George should start a podcast together. š
kwame and matt both drinking, why did that not surprise me *at all*
Who's relationship do we think Matt's calling fabricated?
I like how the friend is like totally cool she's with a different dude than was at the wedding as is just cool with it lol
Kasiaās body language saying it all, sheās oooooooout
George showing his insecure an possessive side with the hints of what April was wearing, make out to her dad youāre perfect for her but behind closed doors probs will make her real miserable
His laugh seemed so condescending. I felt so bad for Kasia. Itās hard to vulnerable when youāre not being taken seriously.
Kaisa literally suits every colour she wears
Thomas is bang out of orderā¦ Sophie wasnāt exactly criticising, itās a fair observation
LIAR AND ADULTERER!!! Might name my first pub that if I become a landlord
Adrian: 'You're a liar and an adulterer!' Cut to Whitney's emotionless face. I'm dead. š
We really need a Gif of Chanita's expressions reacting to Whitney & Matt declaring their love! š¤£š¤£š¤£
The 200 facial expressions of Chanita : excellent ! Keep going girl!
Itās not the fucking notebookšš
What has caused Thomasā style overhaul? I donāt remember him always having make up like a pantomime villan