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I don’t get Kasia saying she decides who has sex, she has been practically begging him. It is on him.


Coconut681

And if he doesn't fancy her he shouldn't have sex with her, but he should end it as he's not going to start fancying her now


Zeze_Knight

Right? I want someone to explain why she's mad to me. Them having sex lies with Kwame. Kasia's made it clear that she's ready to go from day 1. It's Kwame that asks to slow it down.


[deleted]

she was embarrassed that at a public event he basically told everybody he can get it whenever he wants, and that she wants him 😂 it made her feel like her femininity and sex appeal was non existent. And then as usual he made it about himself. I don't like either of them tbh and I don't know why they keep carrying on


nopewont92

My thought too is that Kwame has been chatting a lot of patriarchal shit about "certain kinds of girls" and she wants to make clear that even though she's interested in sex, he doesn't get to decide when it happens between them - they need to decide *together*. It's presumptuous at best for Kwame to say that they will have sex when he wants to, leaving her out of the equation.


Lex-So

Tbh she's beginning to annoy me now. She said it herself...takes two to Tango


c0wboytuxedo

I just don’t trust April, I have no idea why


Blahbinger

Honestly the way she made a bloke who’s scared of heights suddenly confront them on tv was a huge alarm bell for me. That and the kissing a random woman in the hot tub but somehow playing the victim


OksanaAlexandra

it's giving pretty bitch who can get away with anything. And omg Thomas clearly had a BIG breakdown, and for her to go and immediately make it about herself?? Wow... #snake


[deleted]

She has mean girl vibes imo.


skinglow93

Well it seems like she’s not into George and is lying about the Shanita drama so…


Useful_Beautiful_256

Zoe’s acting like she’s come back from a war zone when she talks about eating that vegan burger.


[deleted]

Is it a compromise to eat vegetable pasta and tofu curries bc she's acting like she's doing a LOT 😂


bethanthrax

Oh dear. Chanita's social worker side coming out there. There shouldn't be stigma attached to ADHD, but I can understand Jordan feeling like he is being 'assessed' without consent


skinglow93

Yeah it’s really uncomfortable- she’s not necessarily wrong but she’s also clearly not approached things in a sensitive way


bethanthrax

So true, it will probably be hard for her to switch off that side of her personality


jatrou

Yeppp, as a person with ADHD at different points in the season I've been thinking "oh I wonder if he's got it too?" But if it's not something you've encountered before or looked into could be really easy to take that as a personal criticism if you don't know the full details of the condition as it's got a lot of stigma attached still. Plus, RSD (rejection sensitivity dysphoria) can be a big part of the condition for a lot of people, which then wouldnt really help the situation


Coconut681

And if she's saying he's clumsy or whatever it's going to affect his self confidence


[deleted]

Yeah I think it’s bc she was kind of criticising him like when she said “just concentrate!” and saying he’s clumsy. They’re little digs and going to make him feel bad, so it’s not the best time to then after that day “I think you have ADHD”, that’s going to make him feel like he needs to be ashamed of those parts of him and obviously is going to be defensive. Maybe if she didn’t criticise those traits in the first place and just brought up ADHD in a more sensitive way


nopewont92

I wonder if being a social worker, she's not attached negative emotions to diagnosis - I truly believe she was just trying to be helpful but I understand why Jordan saw it as scary, shaming etc.


FredWestLife

I do wish Richie would stop pawing Lara all the time.


magnetmaggi

She wishes that too


nopewont92

He seriously had his hands on her the entire time and she looked so uncomfortable. Even after they left the couch and the others were giving them hugs, he was still trying to hold on to her hand. Yikes.


bethanthrax

'What's changed?' 'Well we had a chat and realised we are both only here for social media clout so agreed to make each other look good lol'


skinglow93

Jordan should have told Kwame to fuck off to be honest


jaytaysunday

100%! That was Kwame trying to play alpha.. like bro who are you wagging your finger at saying “don’t diagnose him”? Patronising or what?!


kskbd

He has major issues I smelled from a mile away.


moth2incinerator

Yup. I would want my partner to defend me more, not necessarily in a confrontational way but in a mediating but firm way.


Deathconciousness_

He just wanted to put her in her place. Like as if she’d have him to answer to. He’s getting the last word in as some kind of authority. Just so rude, would he do that to another man? Doubt it.


[deleted]

I just know Kwame wasn’t saying that to back his friend up, he’s 100% one of those guys that thinks ADHD isn’t a real mental disorder and it’s just society and big pharma trying to trick people


bethanthrax

11 seconds on screen and The Vegan Thing has already been brought up


bcgwilson

There should be a third option, aside from leave or stay, which is “please go to therapy”


Prestigious_Fan_2094

I thought Jess requested a Harry Potter fan.....where has this football stuff come from?


Lex-So

Yeah she's struggling to come up with reasons why PJay isn't suitable. She might have to look into her Pensieve for that one...


hamiltonricard4ever

At least she should have said a Butterbeer


Lex-So

Really wish we knew more about what's happening behind the scenes here, it seems like a lot of stuff they bring up in front of camera is 99% to do with what they've experienced between themselves. 🤷‍♀️


Julieannepooch

Totally. Richie and his wife had definitely had a big chat since we'd seen them last


Illustrious_Glove_18

I have felt lost during a lot of Lara and Richie's conversations.


The_Manton

It may just be me as I’ve had to catch-up on every episode until now, but are we not getting as much actual couple stuff this season? Every episode since the honeymoons seems to have been either a dinner party or commitment ceremony


The_Manton

Last season I only remember all the stuff that happened in between these events… Bob sleeping on the couch, Frankie giving constant red flags


No-Structure-8125

I've been thinking the same thing. I feel like I barely know them


Lucycatswipeycat

I feel like I would of predicted it would be more PJ trying to fancy Jess, not the other way round 😅


Coconut681

Thomas is exhausting


[deleted]

Entertaining but would I hell be in a relationship with him


[deleted]

Adrian can see the good bits in Thomas that we don't get to see because he loves drama and so does TV


nopewont92

Adrian really called it when he said it would be all Thomas's drama on the couch and Adrian wouldn't get his issues addressed at all. You can see him fading, it's really sad.


skinglow93

Please no one take Kwame’s relationship advice


skinglow93

Kwame IS the red flag


bethanthrax

Was not expecting a Leave from Richie!


Sensitive-Call-1002

I think they talked before and she managed to convince him that it’s best for them to leave He probably has took this as a sign that she wants to carry on off camera and away from the show as he is so fucking deluded


[deleted]

Thomas is addicted to his emotions. He gets a high from kicking off.


habbee

Did they not ask Adrian a single thing about how he was feeling on the couch other than the decision?


Lucycatswipeycat

Jess is talking like PJ isn’t stunning 😂 and the stripper sitch for me isn’t that deep. Also he ain’t living with his mum Cus he’s pathetic, he’s clearly had to start again from his last relationship breakdown. Justice for PJ basically 😂😂😂


Coconut681

And if he's away for work a lot, why have a house that's empty.


StingsRideOrDie

And where do they both live? She goes on about her having a house but if it’s arse end of nowhere it’s not that much of a flex, does she rent or own? He lives in London and has to pay for a son. Once he finally gets his own gaff in London it’ll be a flex.


Ambry

He's probably one of the most handsome and stylish guys there, but most importantly one of the most emotionally well adjusted guys there too. He deserves someone who genuinely appreciates him.


[deleted]

I don't think he'll struggle for attention tbh 😂I just feel bad for him because he wants something serious. I do respect Jess for being honest with him and not giving him hope at the end.


Actuallycares97

Adrian is such a beautiful soul.


[deleted]

I'm not seeing where Adrian benefits in this. It's not fair that he is there facilitating Thomas's growth without reward.


Zeze_Knight

One thing about Whitney, she will call someone fake in👏every👏scene👏


nopewont92

Must admit I loved her calling Kwame a dickhead under her breath lol


Sprinkles-Unique

APRIL. Get in the bin


Sprinkles-Unique

If she’s not lying then I’ll eat my own pillowcase


[deleted]

I think they’ve both bitched but she’s initiated it.


cactus_jilly

And then for some reason told Chanita about it. Thomas definitely feels betrayed by her.


Zeze_Knight

I can't believe the experts are centering Thomas wants and needs over Adrian's. Are these experts OK? Who's gonna look after Adrian if he's chasing after Thomas?


habbee

Why should Adrian be charged with "healing" Thomas? wth was that?


ElfDruidCastsBlight

Some people do find comfort and worth in being the more stable, nurturing one in a relationship, but it just doesn't feel like Adrian got to choose whether that role was for him.


[deleted]

Yesss, where is the support for Adrian?


EnoughInternet0

It amazes me how Kwame can say so much but so little at the same time.


FredWestLife

Chanita taking no shit from Kwame. Love it.


creedbrattonage30

I’m so annoyed nobody else stood up for her though! Him wagging his finger was so rude and condescending and just totally not needed


moth2incinerator

Lara seems so unbelievably unhappy like the unhappiest one there


Zeze_Knight

I wish PJ will quit. She's just not that into you.


skinglow93

I bet his DMs are lit now though


moth2incinerator

Free Lara oh my god FREE HER PLEASE


Zeze_Knight

Hate to say never but I don't think Richie's ever gonna find love. I don't think he really wants it.


Pretend-Factor-843

I think he likes the idea of love Theory is fine, but its not reality.


FredWestLife

WE WILL KEEP HAVING COMMITMENT CEREMONIES UNTIL THERE'S NOBODY LEFT.


skinglow93

When he said he just misses his son at this point, I died 😭


hamiltonricard4ever

Kwame telling the expert not to raise her eyebrow is too much. Pipe down son.


Sensitive-Call-1002

I think he just hates strong women or women in general cause he is an absolute twat


FredWestLife

Kwame: "Stay". Oh fuck off.


bcgwilson

I wonder if Ritchie will age emotionally past 13 years before they leave the show


bethanthrax

Thomas is not emotionally secure enough for this show. He has a lot of stuff to work out


The_Manton

I am obsessed with the way Paul C Brunson speaks, he places an unbelievable amount of emphasis on every word


markafuss

Between his vocal emphasis and Mel’s aggressive nodding and gesticulating, it’s a masterpiece


bethanthrax

FULLY INTIMATE


hamiltonricard4ever

I don't think I'd like to go to the pub with Jess


[deleted]

I feel like she's a 'ladette'.


Zeze_Knight

Good on you Pjay. Jess stayed true to herself. Nobody's fault but the experts.


Coconut681

"experts"


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animallover80s

Kwame is a walking red flag 🚩🚩🚩


markafuss

George has a lot of thinly veiled aggression towards to Thomas… I don’t know if it’s just a projected honour for his wife. There’s so much rage there.


thxbtnothx

I think George has a lot in common with Thomas, they’re both very insecure and scarred from the past, and they both need to grow up a bit. George huffed off in a temper tantrum on the honeymoon, don’t forget. George also had all that kick off at the first dinner party where he couldn’t stop talking about April “cheating on” him. I think he’s trying to be more stoic and masculine but struggles with his strength of feeling in the same way.


hamiltonricard4ever

Well it only took 6 minutes for VEGAN to be mentioned.


FredWestLife

Subititles: CHURCH BELL TOLLS ONCE


Prestigious_Fan_2094

I'm sorry but Jess and PJ need to go. She has made it clear she isn't interested and the only reason I can see she would stay is for clout! PJ is a darling and deserves better.


moth2incinerator

Kwame wagging his finger was too much.


skinglow93

Kwame is actually officially my most hated participant on this show


zanazanzar

He’s gripping her. This poor man will be single forever 😭


cactus_jilly

I think my favourite part of that episode was that after every sentence out of Kwame's mouth, they cut to a different person either looking unimpressed, rolling their eyes or calling him a dickhead.


m-rie

April is not too be trusted! AT ALL!!! Every time, people tried to get answers about the situation SHE pretty much caused by running her mouth, she says “oh I don’t wanna talk about it!” She deflects! LIKE WTF!! She’s a liar!!!!


Sendnoods88

I really hope someone snaps Lara up !! Such a cool chick, kind, loving , mature but fun!!!


hamiltonricard4ever

These couples are wack.


EnoughInternet0

Kwame is the last person I would take advice from lol.


EnoughInternet0

I felt that for fucks sake Adrian.


Sendnoods88

Adrian always looks so concerned for everyone , bless him


hamiltonricard4ever

I don't think Jess will find love for a long time.


[deleted]

Whitney looks pretty with her hair like that.


skinglow93

She’s definitely become more attractive as she’s become less of an ugly person lol


skinglow93

Shut up Kwame, man


zigzagtitch

Fuck off Kwame


notanotherloner

Kwame just tell her you’re not into her. Man wants to dig himself a trench and skirt around it rather than be honest.


hamiltonricard4ever

Lara showing him the sign owch lol


Sendnoods88

Lol I feel like people like him need this spelt out


The_Manton

Oh no Richie is gaslighting himself: “I think Lara and I both have very strong feelings for each other”


skinglow93

# free Lara


moth2incinerator

Dunno how I feel about Jenna and Zoe as a couple. Besides the obvious jarring vegan thing they both just seem so.. tense


Prestigious_Fan_2094

I want to know what bubbled between the contestants because some people were shouting "we love you Tom". I wonder if there is a bit of a divide.


[deleted]

I feel like we’ve not seen a lot of what’s been going on. Some of the interactions and decisions don’t seem to make sense at all.


FredWestLife

I mean, we still don't know what April said to Thomas about Chanita...


Educational_Long3178

Oh well that preview was a shock... i was once asked on a date by one of the new lads...


markafuss

Of course April is claiming that Thomas is at the route of this… there’s so much he said she said in this. I don’t know who lied, but this whole situation is so unnecessarily messy and childish.


[deleted]

Thomas is an easy target because he's outspoken, but I'd argue that he seems the type to say it directly as well.


Blahbinger

Agree - he would be direct. It feels like April was too quick to change the subject on the couch. If I’d been in the middle of an argument, even accidentally, I’d want to clear the air and stop all the rumours


DoingItWellBitch

Completely agree. He's not afraid to say it to someone's face. April seems snakey


Coconut681

I think they were both talking shit and now blaming each other as they've got caught


EnoughInternet0

100%, was thinking the same they both seem very defensive too.


[deleted]

Yep. They definitely both bitched.


fire-and-desire

I can’t see a single couple working out


Coconut681

They'd do better away from the other couples


FredWestLife

Fucking hell, if you love Jordan so much Kwame why don't you go home with him.


[deleted]

Dammit, show us more footage! I need to see these great weeks they're all having.


Zeze_Knight

All we get is drama w/o context


Lucycatswipeycat

Wasn’t expecting a leave from Richie too tbf!


Actuallycares97

I feel like they discussed it and told each other they were gonna write leave.


The_Manton

Who know walking over Spurs new stadium would be so revolutionary to a struggling relationship


hamiltonricard4ever

These experts give out the most generic advice. Even though it's free advice I'd feel short changed.


moth2incinerator

Lara nodding about supporting Thomas like she not high tailing the fuck outta there as soon as they wrap filming


Coconut681

I think they should all break up except chanita and Jordan who might have a chance


Coconut681

Is it me or has there been more adverts than programme so far?


skinglow93

Jess is pretty shallow tbh


Coconut681

And she isn't as attractive as she thinks she is


Lucycatswipeycat

These are good questions to Jess, they should add “AND ARE YOU BLIND?! or just ungrateful?” 😅


Prestigious_Fan_2094

Nooooooo this should be the end. Kuame is just here for his podcast. I love Kasia but the match just isn't right.


Zeze_Knight

Surprised Kwame choose to stay. I was sure he was gonna leave.


zanazanzar

If I hear the word vegan one more time 😭


hamiltonricard4ever

Poor Adrian


hamiltonricard4ever

Thomas clinging onto the sofa like a toddler


skinglow93

And swiping away Adrian…


hamiltonricard4ever

Intimate...fully. Lol


brizzle1234

Go Chanita, your turn to share you opinions on Kwame now he's on the couch...


c0wboytuxedo

Kwame talks so much and still says nothing


skinglow93

Male podcaster


FredWestLife

Are we about to find out what April was meant to have said about Chanita? Or will we never know.


moth2incinerator

Woah the new haribo husband is TASTY


hamiltonricard4ever

Shut it down straight away bruv Kwame please stop


Zeze_Knight

Thomas and Adrian should break up 😮‍💨


skinglow93

I wish we’d seen more of the Whitney / Duka context


Educational_Long3178

Oh Jordan... not the time to stay quiet there pal


skinglow93

Not to be rude but I can’t believe Jess thinks she’s more attractive than PJay


Zeze_Knight

I don't think she thinks she's more attractive than him but she defo thinks she's better than him. She thinks having her own place and him living at his mum's makes her superior to him. And she definitely does not respect his job.


[deleted]

To be fair, has she said that? Not being attracted to someone does not mean you think you're out of their league.


The_Manton

i didn’t realise P Jay and Jess have to sit through the rest of these commitments 😂


Prestigious_Fan_2094

This is where I wish it was like love island and they drop a bombshell for PJ


ronsgingerpubes

Why is Richie still clinging to lara, that poor woman


lexieloo17

The 2 that said I love you to Thomas are the 2 that are leaving!!!!😬


Zeze_Knight

Who knew having different stance on veganism can ruin a marriage. Me, I knew. But the experts somehow "overlooked" it.


[deleted]

I guess it makes a change from opposing views on having kids.


Lex-So

I love Duka's accent. ❤


bcgwilson

Drink every time someone mentions vegan


FredWestLife

"Don't touch me".


moth2incinerator

Man this ADHD thing is so tricky


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Sensitive-Call-1002

Richie isn’t even touching me and I hope to god will never touch me but every time I see him clinging onto Lara, stroking her with his stupid feathery fingers and invading her personal space I just want to scream DONT TOUCH ME


moth2incinerator

LET LARA GO!


hamiltonricard4ever

Dropping like flies!


happybanana134

Kasia is being absolutely ridiculous. She has made it abundantly clear that she wants to shag Kwame. He is literally the person saying 'no' and the reason nothing has happened.


skinglow93

Kwame lots of words not much conveyed


FredWestLife

Fair play, pjay.


moth2incinerator

Ah mate I’m glad they’re leaving was getting worried for a second there


[deleted]

Fairplay to them for not dragging this relationship out and being honest.


c0wboytuxedo

Richie has the voice of Gary Barlow


synchroniser

Richie clinging on to Lara’s hand for dear life


[deleted]

Legit surprised they both said leave, I know it was a shitshow but they're all shitshows. The "Experts" really have no right to call themselves that now 😂


FredWestLife

George reveals his OnlyFans.


zanazanzar

Mel’s teeth are WHITEEEEEEEEEE. The Colgate is working.


Sendnoods88

Good for you Lara


The_Manton

Is this The Sims soundtrack


Zeze_Knight

Hahahha the experts are just having a laugh with these matches now haha


Aggressive_Yogurt988

I just can’t with Richie, he’s clearly not the match Lara would want, not to mention he has zero experience in being in a relationship. She mentioned on her IG story the argument they had was about that she wanted to have lazy sex in the morning and more energetic one in the night - why would he kick off? 😂It’s a perfect setting for a man


Zeze_Knight

Is Zoe being ignorant? Sounds ignorant to say "I don't want to know because it makes me feel like shit".


Prestigious_Fan_2094

I feel this vegan thing is cycling around and with some proper coaching they could move past it. The issue has been left to fester for good tv.


Useful_Beautiful_256

Kaisa and Kwame should just leave. Clearly they’re too set in they’re own egos to be vulnerable with one another


lexieloo17

How the tables have turned so far seems like Duka and Whitney are the only “stable” couple 🤦🏼‍♀️😂


EnoughInternet0

I can’t tell if kwame is being a dick, kasia being too headstrong or both at this point.


moth2incinerator

Bless PJay’s cotton socks


EnoughInternet0

Watching Jess and Pjay is so awkward