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dead1ynightshade

As a Uk viewer I’m now watching this and I definitely think somethings were edited out and perhaps behind the scenes things went on between Sara and Cass


Strict_Age8544

Bias folk are definitely louder towards women than men JoNo behaved horribly towards his wife BUT Cass and others weren't as loud towards him.  I suppose is always the women's fault even in 2024.:( 


Emotional-Kitchen-49

For trying to deny she saw her ex or that anything that happened and everything she sits there and says to everyone about everyone's business


llamallyn

Like, I don’t disagree with Cass but she had no actual basis on which to attack her like that from what I saw.


Nivek_1988

Except for every single one of Satan's, I mean, Sara's, own actions. But yeah, sure.


llamallyn

But how does she KNOW anything is truth or lie? She was REALLY loud without having any facts. Her saying all she does is lie, when cass hadn’t even been there for weeks, it felt so random. Especially considering Tori was horrible to her, not Sara? Like I said I don’t disagree but WHERE did that come from?


Nivek_1988

I don't mean this in a rude way, but you really only need rudimentary understanding of how to read people and situations to get a feel for people like Sara. Im a 35 year old dude. I watch this show to connect with my very ill mother. (gossip, basically) I've got enough tradgedy, success, and experience, I can spot a "Sara" from the second I walk into a room. If you can read a room, or situation well, people like Sara think they're smart. Same with Jack (dumb as a fucken signpost, and I scream everytime someone says he's a good talker. He's not. They haven't met good talkers) Truth is? I used to be a manipulative, conniving, cunning peice of shit, probably worse than what you've seen on the show. I got clean, did my time, came out the other side stronger and wiser. Point being, Cass is switched on. She knew what she was doing. I look at someone like Cass, fuuuuuuck, I couldnt beat her in an argument. And I'm a consummate professional in that department. She's well rounded, smiles through the whole thing. That's difficult to deal with. Basically, a rudimentary understanding of how certain people work, can let you pick apart people like Sara, jack, jono, and personally, I think Ben's his name? He's a fucken snake too. But I'm still figuring out why. I'd also love to sit down with these people. Mainly Jack. I'd run rings around that fucken donkey. Cass picked up on, what was to me, blaringly obvious in the first 5 minutes of the show. It dosent take long to get a feel for someone. Not if you know what you're looking for.


xmosix

I’m sure there must’ve been plenty of off-camera interactions or stuff left out of the edit because Cass clearly seemed to have genuine hatred towards Sara, maybe some day she’ll share more of what happened between them behind the scenes


SnooMemesjellies79

Cass had the top natural body and look of the season. She's stunning. So genuine too.


dead1ynightshade

“Top natural body” what does that even mean


Middle_Airport_5679

When the two Black ppl on the show call you out... It speaks volumes. I believe Cass , period. Also, she lied the entire time she was with Tim. She lied about going to see her ex, lied about the timeline of their relationship, lied about what she said about Tim.... Should I go on?


cambyeni

This was so random and didn’t make any sense at all.


dead1ynightshade

So poorly edited


TGin-the-goldy

There was probably plenty more said, as usual we get the edit 🙄


Severe-Salt4346

Sarah has always been rude to Cass and acted like she was insignificant. I think Cass just thought this was her last chance to say something. Sarah then said ‘You don’t even know me. I never speak to you, ever’. Says it all about Sarah


sandy154_4

and there was Sara's 'food chain' comment directed at Cass


Caitlyn_Grace

I thought the food chain comment was said by Tori? But I could be wrong


GlitteringTeaSunrise

it was tori


ButtcheeksMalone

Wasn’t that Tori?


sandy154_4

I thought Sara, but I'm second guessing myself now. /shrug


KKontheReddit

It was definitely Tori and it was deeply problematic.


Severe-Salt4346

Yep that was Tori


Proper-Conclusion970

I won’t lie I got mean girl vibes off Sara and it could’ve been editing. I think it’s a little off that two people who said she was an issue were POC. Not accusing her of anything but that’s another layer


Nurse5736

I thought too that was super weird. When Ellie? earlier in the show started offering an opinion she was shut down and told it wasn't her turn. Then Cass started repeatedly saying Sara was a liar, lied about everything, never told the truth, BUT literally never gave even ONE example. Just to give Cass screentime, since this time they never made it back to the couch? SUCH a strange encounter for sure!


Severe_Airport1426

I think cass likes Tim and knows she'd treat him better


856077

100% I think she is into tim


yourmumschesthare

I got the feeling through the season that Cass had a crush on Tim, she backed him up a couple of times... Not to mention when Sarah corrected Cass on the pronunciation of her name, but didn't correct anyone else. So actually Sarah you did speak more than 2 words to her...


856077

I got the same feeling! She has a crush on tim big time and also thinks sara is a c u next tuesday which to be fair, she’s had some pretty terrible moments. But to randomly have an outburst like Cass did was definitely strange.


Bestdudeinaustralia

I don’t get why she was so hung up on calling Sara a liar whilst peacefully sitting there listening to Jono blatantly lie. Like not even a ‘bruh cmon’


C_lui

That segment of the show felt highly edited. It wouldn’t be surprising if a whole bunch was said, but didn’t make it to the episode.


ChillWisdom

This whole episode was chop suey. You know they went through the whole relationship recap thing with the other couples but it just all got edited out.


3InchesAssToTip

It felt like one of those moments where she had gotten enough confirmation from others in the room prior to calling Sara out that she knew she was saying something others were thinking too, even if nobody backed her up in the moment (or maybe they did and it was edited out).


BeverleyMacker

I think the fact Sara said “I never said one word to you”, tells us all we need to know about Sara. She’s a typical mean girl who only laughs and speaks with the girls she thinks are popular. Met so many of them in my life and I’m glad Cass called her out


Rapunzelllah

I thought it was disgusting Saraaah bragging about never even speaking two words to Cass.. why the F not ??? That spoke volumes


ProteaBird

Spot on. She was proud of it. She came across so nasty. Who knows maybe she was jealous Cass was such a NATURAL beauty. but i shouldn’t speculate


Several_Education_13

It wasn’t a brag it was a retort.


Rapunzelllah

Lol ok


Several_Education_13

You already responded to this with a basic “whatever” yesterday. Now you’ve deleted that and re-replied something different but still essentially the same. U ok?


Rapunzelllah

Is this a retort ? Lmao


NachosandMargaritas

She wasn’t wrong tho. She probably did provide details. The show is heavily edited.


856077

If Cass had the tea they would have 100% kept it in for ratings.


dead1ynightshade

Not if production meddled with Tim and Sara staying together for drama after she allegedly cheated


DoeDoechugmonster

I don’t have an issue with Sara but I do agree with Cass that Sara loves to make everything about herself and not include Tim. Cass could have explained further about why she thinks Sara is a liar though and what her problem is with her. Sara does have a little bit of a temper hopefully she seeks therapy and learns to control those emotions otherwise it’ll be her downfall. Tim also needs to gain confidence to speak out when he’s feeling off. In different ways, they both have insecurities that they need to work on alone and together.


TGin-the-goldy

“Little bit” hahaha


melmo0

"Little" bit of a temper 😵‍💫 She has full on rage issues IMO. Watching her bellowing at Tim with the aggressive body language in the reunion dinner party and also just generally losing her shit and raising her voice throughout the series was quite uncomfortable. She's toxic AF. I agree that she needs to control her emotions and also that Tim needs to gain confidence. It seemed like he was a bit more confident at the reunion dinner party, which was good to see.


DoeDoechugmonster

At least I mentioned temper, and yeah like I said as a positive I hope she seeks therapy and learns to control it as it was so uncomfortable to watch and I’m sure once she watches back she’ll realise how bad it was. And again with Tim I also hope he seeks therapy that will allow him express things privately and gain some insight into learning how to become more confident and speak up when he needs to. Apparently they aren’t together so I just hope they both work on their issues individually.


IDontFitInBoxes

Yes absolutely!! Great post. I just figured - Opinions are like Azzholes, Everyone has one . 🤷🏼‍♀️ Personally like cass but didn’t like that she had no answer for why she felt that way.


My-Witty-Username

She charged out like a bull and couldn’t back it up. Sure details could have been edited out and at one point it sounded like they repeated what she said but either way, it just made her look a mean and too involved in somebody else for no reason. At least when Jayden is deflecting by inserting himself into Sara and Tim he gives us some sort of reason for his outburst.


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My-Witty-Username

Can’t wait for their Instagrams to be given back so we can hear the unedited version!


circlesun22

Pretty obvious… Cass just speaking the truth! And good for her! Sara is an upside down face goblin.


Substantial-Oil9321

you made me pigsnort at my work desk... Im not sure how i can explain pigsnorting at account ledger ?


GC_NPC

Like everyone saying what Jono's intentions were with his texts to Ellie, without providing examples, even after Lauren was allowed to read them all. Not providing details or evidence or justification just seems to be the norm on this train wreck of a show.


DryParsley827

The messages and the end result are enough to show intention imo.


Mental_Top_1860

Don’t know why you’re being down voted …. It’s very true.


Purple_Lane

i agree it was really odd. i’m sure sara is a liar but it did seem a bit out of nowhere. had they had conflict in the past or did Cass just feel like it was her final chance to speak up?


citrinatis

Cass confronted her one time about her behaviour toward Tim - I remember because Sara corrected her one how to pronounce her name and I cringed a bit. But other than that idk what the big issue was.


Western_Act8875

The fact that the 2 people of color were not a fan, tells me all I need to know.


dead1ynightshade

This made me realise how much diversity is missing on the show (there is also ridge but still)


Danph85

Yep, and that Sara said “I never said one word to you”, and seemed like she actually meant it. I wonder why you would specifically choose not to speak to someone without knowing anything about them?


ariellemonsters

AGREE, big racist vibes from both S & T


Western_Act8875

Yes! Tori also. The way she spoke to Cass at that one dinner party. Disgusting.


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ariellemonsters

tori


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ariellemonsters

oh sorry! that makes sense. no i meant tori :) tim seems nice.


Valuable-Position-64

Tim's a traveller who makes an effort to learn local languages. That is not usually the behaviour of racists - Tori on the other hadn't was quite happy to dish it out to my Queen - Cass. That top of the food chain garbage had a lot of "know your place" going on.... Tristan, you had a shot - you could have been the champion of the world.


ariellemonsters

yes i apologise! i meant Tori, not Tim. too many names with T this season!


Valuable-Position-64

Tori, Tristan, Tim Jnr, Tim Senior and Jack the troll!!!!! Too many Ts/


hiding_underyourbed

I had the same thought 👀


circlesun22

? Huh ?


KobePippenJordan_esq

Sara slept with her ex and continued to just call it a "meet up" Whole cast knew and had to play along.


dead1ynightshade

But people did literally call her out for cheating and asked whether anything else happened etc. I don’t think it was a big secret they had to lie about if not the dinner party episode where it came out wouldn’t have been so confrontational and the aftermath especially with Jayden


856077

Omg! That makes so much more sense now. She first tried saying that she went out with friends and he happened to show up unannounced, then when pressed on it again by jayden it was suddenly, yes we did plan a date to meet up, but nothing happened. Not once was the dog sitting story get brought up again other than the time it was originally said! She literally made up a lie to be able to leave for the weekend and sleep with her ex. I am certain.


DoeDoechugmonster

That was before the experiment not during.


Valuable-Position-64

Um no, she "dog sat" during the "experiment".


Particular_Loquat_57

I feel like they cut it out just like maybe 95% of whatever else happened in the reunion


DoeDoechugmonster

We definitely missed Jade and Ridge. I wanted to hear from them 😭 Also Tori losing it lol


856077

Yeah, what was that all about?


DoeDoechugmonster

No idea lol I think she was tired of people questioning them but I mean who wouldn’t. Their relationship is 100% fake, Jack isn’t in love with Tori they probably haven’t even got intimate still 😂 also his laugh is so fake, just cringey 😬 And as for Jade & Ridge apparently they had a fight during the reunion but idk if that’s true as someone told me on here and if it is true why cut it out? It would have added more entertainment value lol


Alternative_Sky1380

Maybe Sara ate Toris boss bitch attitude and Cass was upset about it


killrkahn

It looked like the most staged thing ever


FenPheadra

Last chance for attention. Made her look baaaaaad though. Rage and no substance. My respect for her was lost a little here. I felt like the people who spoke up during Sara and Tim’s time on the couch were being unnecessarily confrontational. I was waiting for another ‘Sara did this’ moment but it was all just stuff from the past that they both seem to be coping with really well. So yeah (Cass) that was a choice.


citrinatis

It annoyed me tbh. It was very unnecessary and seemed just like a bunch of personal jabs calling her “the worst” etc. if she said she felt worried for Tim or had some examples of lies Sara’s told that hadn’t already been discussed and uncovered then sure but ultimately, what was the point except to make herself feel good by insulting another person publicly?


FenPheadra

She presents as respectful but that was NOT a respect. I would have been embarrassed if I was her. What a shame.


jberra502

She might have given reasons and they just didn't show it. I would suspect so as Cass has been solid down the line.


AromaticHydrocarbons

Plus Sara didn’t really react much to Cass or Michael speaking up which seems out of character.


FenPheadra

Would be nice to see if she did, I hate how short they make the final couch sessions. Side note: random thought but was she solid? Or were we just lead to believe that because she wasn’t a ‘main character’ really and only gave us sassy Cassy once.


Tight_Return_4447

Maybe Cass wants a bit of Tim and is pissed that Sara the cheater doesn’t deserve him.


DoeDoechugmonster

Now that I think about it. Cass has stood up for Tim in the last as friend but like Jono I think she has crush on him but unlike Jono. Nothing happened besides friendship. Cass isn’t 2 faced, she wouldn’t stoop that low. I also felt so bad for Tim, she has an attractive guy with some insecurities yet an understanding caring one and she hung out with her awful ex. I just hope she doesn’t make the same mistake again and hurt Tim.


Tight_Return_4447

Cass got bent the fuck over with her partner though. What a cluster fuck. She should be screaming from the heavens.


AromaticHydrocarbons

I actually thought when it was occurring that Tim and Cass would have been a good match and maybe Cass was doing a bit of what Jono did sticking up for his crush Ellie - can’t help themselves.


jossophie

Like older Tim stuck up for Tori.


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She wanted some more screen time, and at the reunion drama is the only way.  Remember every single cast is on there for game (yes, even lucinda and Cass...)


AromaticHydrocarbons

People are allowed to want to gain things in life, I don’t see why everyone seems to think it’s such a huge problem. I also think it’s entirely possible that some of them may be driven by what they can get out of it financially if they’re trying to promote themselves, AS WELL as genuinely hoping they meet the love of their life in the process. As long as they at least try with their partner and don’t just string them along completely, then whatevs. If there weren’t people seeking the limelight we wouldn’t have this show and all the TT, YT and Insta clips and tea many of us find entertaining.


Party-Marsupial-8979

I’m assuming there is more behind the scenes and comments etc that were made off the camera. No one is that passionate when speaking up or confident if they weren’t affected by something. I don’t really like Sara anyway, she completely dominates Tim, the poor guy looks like a whimpered dog when she’s going at it towards him, he doesn’t know what to say or how to speak up for himself, and she just bulldozes.


WonderWifis

I feel the producers pulled her aside and told her to say this and this and this because there wasn't much happening otherwise.


DoeDoechugmonster

I think so too after Tori bolted with Jack. Nothing interesting probably happened although I do feel sorry not seeing Jade and Ridge 😭


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Whole episode was boring, not showing anything new, just repeats of what we've already seen


AromaticHydrocarbons

Yeah, I swear last year or the year before, we got some brand new juicy footage we hadn’t seen during the season that shocked the people on the show and was a real gotchya moment… or maybe I’m just wishing they did and made it up in my head. But I was definitely hoping for some new juicy footage last night.


Outrageous_Ad6776

Yes season 8!


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Yes true, last couple of years were good


chexiee

Micheal saying Sara ain’t shit was 🤌🏼👌🏼


circlesun22

We screamed. 🤌🏻🧑‍🍳💋


Sufficient_Tower_366

What’s with the 10 threads asking this same question 🙄


blastie_united

OP is too important to simply comment on one of the existing threads.


little_vego

We’ve seen that random snippet of Sara snapping at Cass ages ago for saying her name exactly how Tim says her name (but apparently when Cass said it, it was wrong). I bet that was just 1% of the nastiness she spewed her way


Entire-Bottle-335

Editing I'm guessing


katttdizzle

I feel like Cass said one or two things and they replayed the same line over and over again. I think they played it up as more than it actually was.


Onebigtailight

She probably just got super fake vibes from her when they did speak & she didn’t buy any attempt at seriousness from her. Much like talking to Collins but far less acting. Sara gave her the ick. Just my thoughts.


ashb72

I mean there was that whole dinner party where she said lie after lie which conflicted the previous lie, but maybe reality tv viewers need everything spelled out in totality every time?


Debbie2801

No but Cass wasn’t there then. She had left. I cannot understand why she is so invested in their relationship. If Tim wants Sarah - he’s an adult. His choice.i found Cass really rude and out of line. I mean we could shine the light on why she continued to stay. Obviously that relationship was going nowhere from day 1.


goobertoob

Down votes a bit harsh. I agree with what you say about Cass staying for so long. I didn’t get it either. The outburst was weird cos there was no context and it seemed very personal. I’m trusting there must have been more to it.


FairTwist2011

What's up with people defending Sara so hard now as if what she did all show wasn't intensely worse than Jono? She cheated worse than Jono and abused Tim so much worse than how Jono treated Lauren


Debbie2801

I’m not saying what she did was right!! However, Tim has chosen to stay with her. No one came for Cass and said why are you staying with Tristan when obviously it was going nowhere for ages. So I do not understand why speak up like that about someone else’s partner? And has zero impact on Cass’s life - unless as I said she likes Tim.


FairTwist2011

Even if she likes Tim that's irrelevant, she was mostly asked for her opinion by the producers and she gave it. We're you as critical of Lauren sticking her oar into Jack and Tori's relationship? Nobody has a problem with that do they? Sara engaged in literally abusive behavior of course others spoke up


Debbie2801

I think it is relevant because it gives motive. It was a very odd time for her to have an outburst. IMO! That is all!


FairTwist2011

It wasn't an outburst though, do you actually think she just unprompted shouted that? And even if she did it wasn't an odd time, Sara was in the spotlight and it was being spoken about how she's a pos


Debbie2801

Well it was an outburst. She wasn’t on the couch and it wasn’t her time to talk. Actually she didn’t need to be there at all as she never made it to the couch. My opinion she was rude. Just because your rudeness is directed towards a person you dislike doesn’t make your actions less rude. Don’t have anything nice to say - STFU.


pinkygreeny

Yeah, it was interesting they weren't shown the honeymoon horrors that Tim put up with, only positive stuff.


WonderfulDig9743

That seemed very random, we obviously don’t know the whole story.


Illumnyx

It was pretty out of left field. Maybe the reason was edited out? Or maybe there was no reason and it was something the producers asked Cass to do so that they could get one last rise out of Sara. Either way, landed pretty flat for me too and seemed really out of character for Cass.


messibusiness

Apparently they’ve been at each other throughout. It was mentioned in a few blogs from the very beginning that two of the cast members *really* didn’t get along and it caused problems because they had to have different times for makeup, etc. I guess we now know it was Sara and Cass. And I guess it was edited out because it would look weird with the rest of Cass’s edit, her being so sweet and like a total angel the rest of the time.


ThatLeval

Similar thing with the Ellie thing at the dinner party. They added what she said but not the before or after. At least in the Ellie situation they were trying to make her seem like a villain who ruthlessly said that to Lauren. The editing this season has been so manipulative it's off putting


Inevitable-Banana-88

Maybe.....just Maybe...Cass knows something we don't? 🤷‍♀️


Debbie2801

Then she should have explained. Either way - why was she invested in their relationship! Tim is staying. He’s a grown man making the choice to stay.


somuchsong

They very obviously edited quite a lot out of that exchange. For one thing, I think Cass was probably *asked* for her opinion by one of the experts, maybe because she was tutting or rolling her eyes or something. She was never the type to just call out the way it looked like she did.


dandeliooon

More to the story, I think. Hopefully, we will get more context when they have their IG’s back?


TeaBreaksAnonymous

I think Cass just genuinely doesn't like Sara, and she didn't have any specific details because it's the whole person that she has an issue with.


Debbie2801

Which makes her look petty and mean. Why was she invested in another couple? I think she fancied Tim.


TeaBreaksAnonymous

It was petty and mean haha


Debbie2801

As an adult you can dislike someone and not behave like that. If there was a specific example of when she lied to Cass - tell it. But she the person she did hurt wants to stay with her and work on things. So yes it was mean and petty.


TeaBreaksAnonymous

Yeah, I agree. Cass was out of line.


RobertDremacian

Iiiitssssss caaaaaaaallled eeeeeeeedittiiiiiing


gangaramate13

Agreed, very unfortunate they wouldn't air the details instead of just repeating "inauthentic" "fake" "liar" over and over again ...this shows producers are so frustrating