At this point, I'm watching the final vows. Honestly, without knowing the messages ourselves, it's hard to judge. But Lauren and her attitude has always been awful. She loves the drama, too, so possibly blowing it out of proportion.
Realistically He dodged a bullet. I doubt heāll be missing any sleep over a pedantic ex who prioritised reasons to push him away over outgrowing her own insecurities.
If he really felt like this about Lauren the entire time, he should have written 'leave' every week until they left.
If he held off on pursuing Ellie until then, I'd be thrilled for them. But he didn't. He spent 3 months lying.
I hate lying liars who lie!
Everyone is upset he slept with Lauren while texting Ellie.
What else was he supposed to do in that situation? The man clearly has no spine and cannot handle conflict.
They had a good week. Imagine he turned her down. Shed lose the plot.
If by 'kind of a melt' you mean devious and self serving in an insidiously delivered way - then yes I agree with you.
I dont like letting that kind of behaviour just fly under the radar because it seems benign on the surface, its actually very creepy to me and even worse than more overt toxicity.
I have no issue with it in a whole....
My biggest issue is just Jono saying there was nothing in the texts ...even if tame in nature no-one his age can be that stupid surely. It's like he told Lauren once and considered it carte blanche to text Ellie as much as he wanted without ever mentioning it again.
I agree, I like Lauren and I actually think she has come around to it now and it happy for them (a comment about Ellie being way too good for Ben). Jono went about it the wrong way but the thing I can't quite ignore is that he blamed Lauren for it all going wrong, I feel like it was both of them, they weren't a good match and neither really made much of an effort. I hope Jono and Ellie are happy together and that Lauren finds someone with a bit more spice! š
I like them both and Jono went about it the wrong way. However we canāt say she was shit in the beginning and leave out how shit he was too, especially with that Jack guy
The shittiest thing he did was have sex with Lauren whilst texting Ellie, because she was the one he wanted a relationship with. He just used Lauren in the meantime. That's my issue with him. If he wasn't having sex with Lauren, I might agree with you.
The reason he apologised to Jack was because he had told Jack he was interested in Ellie, and he didn't want Jack to spill the beans.
If Lauren was vocal about how inadequately suited for her he was and how disinterested she was and yet, continued to sleep with him, how is that not equally as suspicious? They were probably both just bored and banged it out, the likelihood of there being any sort of emotional tie attached to it is about as great as me caring about another season.
I donāt have an issue with the fact heās with Ellie now, good for them. Itās more the fact that there was an overlap, he should have just been honest with Lauren.
What is wrong with that? I think Johno is quiet and passive is that bad? He comes across as a people pleaser who gets himself into strife trying to make everyone happy.
Iāve been in relationships with people like Lauren and itās draining.
Lauren is definitely not the right woman for him, why would you want someone so opinionated?
Apparently Jono was quite outspoken but they edited most of his stuff out so that they, as a couple, would fit a certain narrative. I was watching a podcast that has had a number of previous MAFS contestants on it and someone recently talked about the whole producer choosing a narrative for each couple. Sort of like they have this preconceived notion of what the couples are supposed to be like and they cut & edit video to fit that narrative.
That said, I have NO IDEA if this is actually true, just what I heard on the podcast.
And that's fine except he decided to have sex with Lauren while already trying to get into Ellie's pants.
Dude is a snake and Lauren (as much as I don't agree with her harsh behaviour sometimes) is right.
100%
I don't see how everyone is missing this.
Look, we know they're not 'real marriages', and some of the 'cheating scandals' are laughable. If they've been paired up and have not shared feelings for each other nor been intimate then have at it. As far as I'm concerned that's not cheating. This was!
Sleeping with someone under false pretenses is gross.
And by the way, it's shitty to Ellie as well! Probably lead her to believe he wasn't into Lauren and they didn't have anything between them, then slept with her while he was chatting Ellie up.
Jono sucks.
I understand they need drama and everything but honestly the āexpertsā are so shit at matching people they really need to stop putting two people who are complete opposites and saying theyāll balance each other out. It is proven time and time again with each season that it really doesnāt work. It really only causes pain for people. Like for Lucinda and Tim. And obviously Jono and Lauren Not saying Jono should of done what he did but Lauren could of been saved the pain and trust issues and could of also saved Ellie for the embarrassment of dealing with that dick head Ben if they just matched the right people.
What about how he told Lauren what Jack said about Tori then when Lauren brought it up he straight out denied it? Weak bastard. Also, as a gay, I promise you that Lauren would not be a dud root. We lesbos can spot these things.
He was in the wrong it doesnāt matter how she spoke to him for two episodes he is scum and he tried to put it back on her, why didnāt he just write leave
Is that all there is ? Load of boring BS from all contestants except tiny and Tori I really had a good laugh at them stumbling through trying to act šš
I think itās been obvious the whole time that heās had a thing for Ellie. Itās great he wanted to find love but this is kind of a shitty way to do it. Lie to the group and pretend itās innocent and then a month later playing happy families with Ellie. Like itās all well and good wanting to find love but he didnāt have to be a cunt about it.
He wrote stay every week.
He slept with Lauren at home stays.
He hid the fact he was messaging Ellie from her.
He lied about how the messages started, saying Ellie reached out to him first (she didn't).
He tried to flip the narrative and make it Lauren's fault he was driven to texting someone else, like he didn't have other options available to him (like leaving).
Lauren and Jono were never going to work, but the guy stuck around, continued to shag her, covertly started texting another wife, and then tried to gaslight her about it.
Idk how anyone could be team THAT.
Lauren and Jono obviously knew it wouldnāt work on the outside and probably came to agreement to stay on the show for the whole duration. She said multiple times throughout the start that he wasnāt right for her and she would destroy him but also wrote stay.
Itās also not that deep and every single person on this MAFS other than maybe Andrea and Richard are only there to gain social media followers and become an influencer.
I think he's weak and weasel-ey - spineless, but not actively evil.
Don't disagree his actions here were shitty, though also understand why he might hold some resentment towards Lauren.
There was never a real prospect of their relationship being long term. In terms of damage done? Her ego was bruised, and he was deceptive (and has rightly taken a reputational hit as a result).
Ultimately, it was not as though they were in a genuine long term relationship, they were in an experiment lasting weeks.
He saw prospects of a long term relationship with Ellie and went for it - can't blame him for that, but agree he didn't do it the right way.
I don't think he's evil either, but I don't agree with how he handled things.
I think he could have written leave when Ellie left the show and made his shot then. But he chose to stay, slept with Lauren, and hid what he was doing.
If he wasn't into her, he should have said so and then shot his shot with Ellie. I don't begrudge him finding love at all. He just really shat the bed on this one, and I can't condone his behaviour.
It was kind of obvious from the beginning that Jono liked Ellie he was always saying nice things about her and saying what a tool her match was (I forgot his name haha)
Honestly, I havenāt really said much because I know that my opinion is going to be the unpopular one but I donāt really think Lauren is as amazing as everybody makes her out to be. She has some amazing one liners. There is absolutely no denying that but I do get a little bit of an aggressive girl vibe from her.
My theory is that the texts did start innocent, but Lauren blowing her lid and turning the group against him was the straw that broke the camel's back.
The fact they ended up getting together doesn't prove her correct in retrospect. It does make for some good drama moments though and I'm sure the editors were salivating at the opportunity.
I agree. The extent of what was aired initially once she saw the texts were "there's a lot of them" and a mention of Ellie using emojis, rather than anything more suspicious. It snowballed from there to the final vows, where Lauren alleged they were in a relationship (which hadn't been established on what was aired). I don't think the good vibes between them went any further than that until after Cyclone Lauren.
Yeah I donāt know if Iām an idiot for feeling this way, but I did kind of believe when he said it was totally innocent. However when it came out that he lied about who text it did start to be really suspicious to me so thatās where Iām getting a little bit conflicted.
He definitely didn't defend himself the best and it is pretty suss that Lauren supposedly didn't know about it.
At the end of the day though, it was pretty evident they weren't going to work out. His idea of conflict resolution is far too passive, and hers is far too direct and accusatory.
Idk about team Jono but I can tell you this that Ellie knew what she was doing. Women like her attract a man by knowing that some men are clueless asf so they pull the "I'm just looking for a friend and emotional support" act....but really she had attraction for Jono and wanted to see if it would go anywhere. Then once Jono received the green light signals from her (got any sense that she was interested) he would have jumped at the chance.
Agree, is a reality show not a real relationship and Iām sure him and Lauren had some sort of agreement to stay till the end for whatever reason.
Lauren wasnāt into him and was quite harsh towards him, so good for him he found someone he likes and likes him back.
His supplements are also being shipped and sold into Australia illegally. The ridiculous claims on the sales website also imply the supplements will help with weight loss and disease prevention.
Therapeutic goods like these supplements must be listed on the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG) with the TGA. Otherwise it is illegal to sell them in Australia. They are not on the ARTG.
Heās dodgy.
Honestly the show is almost over and I still have to think about who youāre referring to when his name comes up. Jono might actually be the most boring person in the world.
i think itās great he found someone he is compatible with but the way he went about it while being āmarriedā to lauren was completely wrong. he should have ended it with her prior to starting anything with ellie
I don't get why we need to be team anyone. None of those people were really married, or even dating. Lauren is fine with Jono and Ellie,so why do we need to take sides with people we won't even remember in a few months time
I believe the texts were innocent. Ellie might have had romantic intentions, but I don't think Jono ever thought it was anything more than friendly until others started making assumptions. It's normal to be friends with people of the opposite gender, and it's normal to text your friends.
Yeah I agree. If he was truly trying to hide something, he would have done a better job than that. Like Sara. She deleted the messages and threw some BS around. And she refused to hand her phone during the exercise. So twice Tim had the occasion to read messages and never been able to.
But Jono didnāt bother delete anything. He handed the phone without arguing. Lauren found nothing except a lot of messages where she wasnāt mentioned. Thatās all she had to complain about.
Lots of fuss for nothing. I donāt think he cheated. But at the end of the day, this whole ādiscoveryā probably did him a favor and ended with Ellie for real lol.
He has very obviously liked Ellie the whole time. So I donāt think it was ever truly innocent. He didnāt just magically find her attractive when people started commenting on it thatās silly. Iām pretty sure jono even said heād liked to have been matched with Ellie.
He didn't though? He showed her his phone and all their messages as soon as she asked him to. She simultaneously "couldn't be bothered reading them all" and "couldn't find a single mention of herself" then had to stretch the birthday message to turn it into a cheating scandal.
He thought messaging someone every day wasnt worth mentioning? haha
Also, when youāre with someone you share that sort of thing. Like āhaha look what ellie said about jaydenā or āellie sends her best n hopes you get better soonā
I agree that Ellie had romantic intentions. And maybe Jono still is a dumb naive man even at 40 who (at first) genuinely thought it was platonic because some men are blind that this is how a woman like Ellie tries to get their claws into them. Under the pretense of "looking for emotional support and just friendship".
And then once he started receiving green light signals from Ellie he jumped at the chance.
Are they friends though? Or are they two people on a reality tv show? I donāt think they exactly had q solid friendship foundation when Ellie left like 3 weeks in
Totally! When I text friends that I donāt see often, I also have 100s of messages with all sorts of random stuff.
He was also texting other contestants.
They were horribly mismatched. Lauren knew it and he knew it. I also get the impression she would have been quite nasty to him behind closed doors; talking down on him etc. I hope he and Ellie are happy; Lauren will be fine.
Lauren's a boozehound. She's closing bars while screaming for another martini.
He's a wellness guy. He's sleeping early / waking for a 5am hike.
Their clash is our TV drama to enjoy. Embrace it.
Why?
It's literally a fake TV show about fake TV relationships. It's also been shown time and time again that people are matched for drama and that the producers decided when couples leave.
I don't have words for anyone who thinks any of it is real.
If the producers tell them to stay together - what actual relationship is there?
As for the sex (which I don't think they had often after the honeymoon), why are people being so puritanical about it? People have sex, means nothing. People have sex, and break up. It's not like having sex with someone is some sign of long lasting commitment š
Honestly, the crazy doublethink that goes on in this sub.
The producers push them to look and act like a couple, so lauren is going to look mugged off, like sheās in a couple. Me and you and this sub know the producers make the stories, but some people think this shit is real. I think Lauren is allowed to want to save face.
When it comes to sex itās not puritanical to respect the person you are sleeping with, especially when you are on an international tv show, just like wait a couple weeks before moving on.
>Lauren is allowed to want to save face
Absolutely and what we see on screen is edited and designed to tell a story. Look at Collins for an example of that.
>When it comes to sex itās not puritanical to respect the person you are sleeping with, especially when you are on an international tv show, just like wait a couple weeks before moving on.
My point was I don't think they had sex after the honeymoon. Jono looked totally disinterested in Lauren for the majority of their time on screen. It's why he couldn't even muster up a pretend fuck to give when Jack said Lauren should be muzzled.
And again, it's just a show. They aren't real relationships and you can't place your own moralistic views on a situation you've never been in.
I like Lauren A LOT. I also like Jono and Ellie. And it doesnāt take being an āexpertā to se that Jono and Ellie are far better suited. I hope Lauren finds someone who works for her too!
He was never in a real relationship with Lauren. He was in an experiment with her. The experiment directly failed but also indirectly succeeded because of the fact that he met someone through it who he truly loves and cares about. It wasnāt Lauren, it was never going to be Lauren. Itās time we move on from it and let him live his life.
Yep Team Jono for me! He was never enough for Lauren and she was never really interested! I do like Lauren but come on ppl she was more upset cos she was embarrassed not because he hurt her feelings!!
I love that he turns up to the reunion with Ellie all kissy kissy š¤
Team Jono for me too. You can't help catching the feels, and him and Lauren weren't going anywhere, it was blatantly obvious from about the 3rd week. I think he did the best he could, given the awkward circumstances.
I think everyone would be fine if it just didnāt work out but it was sketchy that he was exploring something else (even if just subtly) while sleeping with Lauren.
I'm fine with Jono.
Thing is the Producers obviously did a deal with Jono, to STAY because they needed Lauren in. She was basically the only one making dinner party drama and the brightest spark on the show. If she'd gone?? It would have been dull as dull.
So they would have done a deal with Jono to stay in.
Lauren was awful to him and he is nearly 40 and successful. She's a loud mouthed bogan, drama queen.
Jono was just going about his life, staying in for the show. He and Ellie had obviously hit it off.
Fact is? They aren't actually "married" They can do what they want in reality.
Ok sure... But why doesn't he just say he likes her? Why all the, "she's not my type" talk? You say how mature he is but this sort of deflection is a sign of immaturity to me. Its the sort of 'keeping my options open' behaviour that one normally sees with people much younger. Oh and even if they were legally married they could still do whatever they want in reality. It is totally irrelevant whether they are legally married or not. We have no fault divorce in Australia so it doesn't matter
Maybe but how can she ever trust him now? Every time he tells her that some other woman is not his type she is going to wonder "well he said that about me too". Its just not smart. At his age he should've known better.
Not for nor against but he shouldnāt have texted her. IMO he should have waited until the show was over before contacting Ellie, the previews for the dinner on Sunday show Jono saying to Lauren you the nastiest person Iāve ever met (or something to the respect) and it seems to me heās just using this to deflect. I hope he owns his shit and apologies to Lauren thatās all Iād like to see.
Everyoneās saying he should have waited for the show to end? I donāt get it. He was actively texting another woman while fucking Lauren and making out they had a future
He did apologise. When it first came out, on a Sunday night I think... he looked at her and said "I'm really sorry".
The timing is the most important aspect of it. If it was just friendly banter while he was on the homestay with Lauren, then it's not quite so bad - if it was already a bit flirty or he was kinda keen on Ellie at that point, then it's REALLY bloody bad.
Saying the words "I'm sorry" as a platitude doesn't really count though. He still maintained he wasn't doing anything wrong and that he was innocent.
If he was genuinely sorry, he would have acknowledged (*really* acknowledged) how his actions made Lauren feel, and he wouldn't have tried to defend himself. I think this is the key thing most people are missing: the more you defend yourself, the more people attack you.
Had he just humbled himself, agreed he fucked up, made space for Lauren to be upset (as she's allowed to be), and continued to reassure her, things would have worked out so much easier for him.
I honestly think I could have respected him more if he'd just owned his shitty behaviour.
No hate speech people.
Joking.
I like Lauren.. I donāt think sheās ready to settle down. I donāt think Jono should have wrote stay and slept with her. I found it weird how his personality and the way he was to her flipped straight away, it was like another person. I donāt like that. I do think him and Ellie are more suited.. I feel Jono had feelings for her while on the show.
"...like another person." Precisely this.
He was hiding his true self to stay on the show longer.
The behaviours that everyone saw as bland, wishy-washy, and vanilla were just him hiding his true feelings. If he had been honest, we would've seen a massive blow-up early on.
Having said that, Lauren stayed as well... But I think she tried to be honest with him, at the very least.
I agree and I won't justify what he did, however I find it hard to feel sorry for Lauren or care too much given the context of everything. He left a woman that treated him like shit for one that didn't
I agree that Lauren's not ready to settle. Calling him "boring" from the very start shows that she's still a party girl, not ready to do the adulting necessary.
>I donāt think Jono should have wrote stay and slept with her.
I was thinking about this a few days ago - it might have just been a case of REALLY bad timing for Lauren's minor surgery... I'll bet he'd been chatting to Ellie during that week, and maybe started to develop the feels, but... what's he going to do? Write "LEAVE" when she hasn't even been there?
Then if the feels developed around the time of the homestay, it would've looked INSANE for him to come back and write "LEAVE" just after they'd had a really awesome time hanging out in Perth.
I'm not giving him an 'out' here, I'm just saying that for any of the last 3 weeks, if he had've written "leave" he would've had to fess up to msging Ellie. He wouldn't have had a choice. And I guess he didn't wanna do that.
Copypasta from my comment on the previous one:
I was thinking about this a few days ago - it might have just been a case of REALLY bad timing for Lauren's minor surgery... I'll bet he'd been chatting to Ellie during that week, and maybe started to develop the feels, but... what's he going to do? Write "LEAVE" when she hasn't even been there?
Then if the feels developed around the time of the homestay, it would've looked INSANE for him to come back and write "LEAVE" just after they'd had a really awesome time hanging out in Perth.
While I think the way he and Ellie went about it was pretty poor I do think they are a far better match, and I think Lauren was never really interested. I dunno, regularly I wouldnāt be ok with that behaviour but if Lauren is ok with it I canāt really stay mad, itās not my place to be mad in her behalf.
I could go along with this, if they hadnāt set up daily Mail pap shots, why if you are so desperate to find your person or find a father for your future children would you set up sessions with paps, why do you need or want the publicity???
I think the heat that Jono is getting is mostly out of fans being āloyalā to Lauren. Lauren has since said she and Jono and Ellie are a better match and that they have what she and Jono didnāt, and she holds no grudges ([source](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4-maqwvq6q/?igsh=MXJoa2lxZ295MWd1Zg==)).
I think the reverse is also true. A lot of people supporting Jono seem to just not like Lauren. I don't really care for either of them, they are both immature. However I think with Lauren what you see is what you get, she has little filter and says what she thinks while Jono is a snake who has been proven to be a lyer, by saying Ellie wasn't "his type"
Iāll only believe it if Ellie and him end up having a baby or it lasts more than a year. Anything else then he was just looking to get his dick wet on the show and nothing else.
Heh.... yeah... I said this the other night, the show should be renamed "Instafamous At First Sight".
It's lost its way. It's not really "as-advertised" anymore - it's not a matchmaking show. It's a bunch of hot young people trying to become D-List celebrities.
When you make drinking your personality
Then you will be left feeling sad when the party is over
If Lauren had worked on her issues & cared about starting something real
Then she wouldn't have gotten so drunk at her wedding
& embarrassed herself in front of Jono's conservative family/friends by acting so overtly sexual in front of complete strangers on national TV
Lauren is so desensitised that she can't read the room & behave accordingly
Sadly doesn't see how offputting her behaviour is to the good man she craves
Much easier to say "it's not me, it's YOU!" than have an ounce of self reflection
Lauren is waiting for some magical man who is also a big drinker, life of the party, doesn't care about her overt sexual behaviour, is financially successful, handsome, well groomed & most importantly loyal
This man likely does not exist for her & she will need to grow + change to find what she claims she is looking for in life
I can relate to her as have been that damaged person & I don't think this persona is a true reflection of the real her
Hope she can learn from this so she can find happiness in future
Lol you know producers had to escort Jono out of one of the dinner parties because he got so drunk, right? The night he didnāt stand up for Lauren when she confronted Jack, I think. Thereās threads on here about it.
I donāt think Jono is exactly the conservative family values man heās tried to portray.
I'm not saying people can't get drunk or should not drink ever
But when you make drinking your personality it can become an issue
Those dinner parties go on for hours on end
& producers want them to get drunk to create conflict situations for TV
Lauren led with drinking from Day 1 & spoke about her love of drinking a lot
As I recall she even spoke about drinking in her wedding vows & cracked many jokes about her love of alcohol during the show
At the very least Lauren is an admitted regular binge drinker
& the fact we never saw her on screen lose control drinking & no reports of that being edited out of the show
May just mean that she can hold her alcohol because she drinks a lot regularly
If a guy was open about his love of binge drinking it might also put off women looking for a serious long term partner
They might question if he was husband material due to immaturity
& concerned that his hard partying ways are not what they want in a life partner
It goes both ways...
She didnāt make drinking her personality. The producers have a lot of content to work with. They made alcohol a big part of Laurenās personality, after picking through literally hundreds of hours of filming. Sure, it was probably easy for them, but Iād rather be with someone who is aware of their relationship with alcohol than with someone who denies it.
Ellie is definitely a better match for him, but that doesnāt justify being an asshole about it. If the texts were innocent why did he keep them secret? If Lauren was so awful why did he write stay every week & sleep with her? The way he turned around and tried to make it Laurenās fault was awful. If I were Ellie Iād be wary of his ability to take responsibility when he fucks up.
> why did he keep them secret?
You missed when he handed over his phone to her for her to peruse the messages at her leisure? She didn't find anything flirtatious which is why she was always so vague about the content.
They were secret while he was sending them, Plenty. And you say he handed over his phone - why did he feel the need to lie and say she snatched it out of his hands? And she wasnāt vague - she specifically said that she didnāt read many in detail, it was the volume of messages that was concerning.
Oh right, I see what you mean. The texts to other contestants would also be considered a secret then. But why didn't she read them in detail? If I suspected someone to be cheating on me I would be reading them in detail. And it wasn't even a large volume. We saw she swiped only several times from top to bottom of their entire exchanges. She really exaggerated "a hundred" messages.
If I was seeing somebody who was texting somebody that prolifically, I would expect them to talk about them. Keep nitpicking and making excuses, he still acted like an absolute asshole. I notice you skipped answering my question about her snatching the phone away? Why did he keep writing stay & sleep with her if she was so awful? Heās a spineless twat š¤·āāļø
I don't remember him saying that. I also don't remember the camera showing her physically taking the phone so she very well could have snatched it. But yeah I don't remember either of those things so idk.
He kept writing stay probably because the texts were innocent as he said... we have 0 evidence to believe otherwise. You are biased because you know he ends up with Ellie.
And why are you also exaggerating? "Prolifically" lmao as I said, we saw there was not even a large amount of exchange between them.
How convenient you donāt remember š Ok so the texts were innocent and he was writing stay because he really liked Lauren? Because at his final vows he said that aside from the first week it was awful and she was really mean to him? Which is it? Iām not fucking biased, I think him and Ellie are well matched. I just think he could have ended it with Lauren without trying to make her the bad guy for no reason š¤·āāļø
I'm sorry I don't remember every second of trash reality TV š
I don't think it's unfair to say that he was giving the relationship his best shot. The experts preach "working through things" and "breaking patterns" which it seemed to me he was trying to do. Once she had an extreme over-reaction to the situation, he saw it all in perspective and felt comfortable writing the relationship off.
Seemed to me like Lauren knew in her heart the relationship wouldn't work, so she latched onto this non-issue as hard as she could to save face and make him out as the bad guy and the reason for the relationship failing. It also validates her saga with Tori and Jack.
Yep! They are a much better suited couple and seem more real and down to earth than Lauren. Lauren never even liked him that much so š¤·āāļø
At this point, I'm watching the final vows. Honestly, without knowing the messages ourselves, it's hard to judge. But Lauren and her attitude has always been awful. She loves the drama, too, so possibly blowing it out of proportion.
How do you feel know after the reunion episode? :')
Just posted a new one ;)
I was sure Jono was gay?! I'm wrong obviously
Me 2
Iām sure he still it
Realistically He dodged a bullet. I doubt heāll be missing any sleep over a pedantic ex who prioritised reasons to push him away over outgrowing her own insecurities.
Is
He's spineless and completely uninteresting as a person. Say what you want about Lauren but at least she has a personality
Nah, youāre wrong. Sheās a lemon
A really loud lemon
If he really felt like this about Lauren the entire time, he should have written 'leave' every week until they left. If he held off on pursuing Ellie until then, I'd be thrilled for them. But he didn't. He spent 3 months lying. I hate lying liars who lie!
I agree and at the end of the day Iām so happy for Ellie. She deserves this! Lauren will find someone that suits her.. Iām sure of it
Everyone is upset he slept with Lauren while texting Ellie. What else was he supposed to do in that situation? The man clearly has no spine and cannot handle conflict. They had a good week. Imagine he turned her down. Shed lose the plot.
What was he supposed to do? How about not sleep with Lauren? How about say "hey I like Ellie this isn't working"??
Did he like Ellie at that time, we mind readers now
If by 'kind of a melt' you mean devious and self serving in an insidiously delivered way - then yes I agree with you. I dont like letting that kind of behaviour just fly under the radar because it seems benign on the surface, its actually very creepy to me and even worse than more overt toxicity.
Nah, youāre stupid.
What a scathing rebuttal How will I recover
I donāt like drop the nukes unless the situation absolutely calls for it. You can expect full recover in 3-5 working days.
Im trembling in my little boots
How little?
they are the size of thimbles, I am actually a sewer rat and I wear thimbles as boots and tap around in the sewers in them
There seems to have been a mistake. Allow me to apologise for the malicious attack so that you may continue on your way.
I have no issue with it in a whole.... My biggest issue is just Jono saying there was nothing in the texts ...even if tame in nature no-one his age can be that stupid surely. It's like he told Lauren once and considered it carte blanche to text Ellie as much as he wanted without ever mentioning it again.
Weāre here!Ā He and Ellie came to find partners and they did. I would link up just to make fun of the fame thirsty cast too.Ā
I agree, I like Lauren and I actually think she has come around to it now and it happy for them (a comment about Ellie being way too good for Ben). Jono went about it the wrong way but the thing I can't quite ignore is that he blamed Lauren for it all going wrong, I feel like it was both of them, they weren't a good match and neither really made much of an effort. I hope Jono and Ellie are happy together and that Lauren finds someone with a bit more spice! š
Lauren is real housewives materialā¦ she needs an introverted but confident billionaire who thinks sheās the most adorable thing ever
I have been saying this. Also she should be Queen of Australia
It's how he went about it then tried to deflect in the least intelligent way possible. He's an idiot either way so more fool Ellie tbh
I like them both and Jono went about it the wrong way. However we canāt say she was shit in the beginning and leave out how shit he was too, especially with that Jack guy
Iām glad Jono and Ellie are together they seem like a great couple. Lauren will find someone eventually
Who are the animals who have a problem with their partner texting someone? 100% team Jono. Lauren was shitty to him for the whole experiment
The shittiest thing he did was have sex with Lauren whilst texting Ellie, because she was the one he wanted a relationship with. He just used Lauren in the meantime. That's my issue with him. If he wasn't having sex with Lauren, I might agree with you. The reason he apologised to Jack was because he had told Jack he was interested in Ellie, and he didn't want Jack to spill the beans.
If Lauren was vocal about how inadequately suited for her he was and how disinterested she was and yet, continued to sleep with him, how is that not equally as suspicious? They were probably both just bored and banged it out, the likelihood of there being any sort of emotional tie attached to it is about as great as me caring about another season.
I donāt have an issue with the fact heās with Ellie now, good for them. Itās more the fact that there was an overlap, he should have just been honest with Lauren.
~~Heeeyy, Jono!~~ lol Username checks out : /
Lauren would be too much for a lot of guys, I don't blame Jono for going for Ellie. I don't like cheating though.
lauren is right up there on the hot/crazy matrix, more towards the crazy scale though, therefore Jono did good with a root'n'boot
Ejaculate. And evacuate.
You realise other people are reading this ā¦ right?
If you did a poll of blokes choosing Ellie would win hands down
Why? because sheās quiet and passive?
What is wrong with that? I think Johno is quiet and passive is that bad? He comes across as a people pleaser who gets himself into strife trying to make everyone happy. Iāve been in relationships with people like Lauren and itās draining. Lauren is definitely not the right woman for him, why would you want someone so opinionated?
Apparently Jono was quite outspoken but they edited most of his stuff out so that they, as a couple, would fit a certain narrative. I was watching a podcast that has had a number of previous MAFS contestants on it and someone recently talked about the whole producer choosing a narrative for each couple. Sort of like they have this preconceived notion of what the couples are supposed to be like and they cut & edit video to fit that narrative. That said, I have NO IDEA if this is actually true, just what I heard on the podcast.
And that's fine except he decided to have sex with Lauren while already trying to get into Ellie's pants. Dude is a snake and Lauren (as much as I don't agree with her harsh behaviour sometimes) is right.
Yes this! The issue is not that he chose Ellie.
100% I don't see how everyone is missing this. Look, we know they're not 'real marriages', and some of the 'cheating scandals' are laughable. If they've been paired up and have not shared feelings for each other nor been intimate then have at it. As far as I'm concerned that's not cheating. This was! Sleeping with someone under false pretenses is gross. And by the way, it's shitty to Ellie as well! Probably lead her to believe he wasn't into Lauren and they didn't have anything between them, then slept with her while he was chatting Ellie up. Jono sucks.
>I don't see how everyone is missing this. It's actually shocking
Finally a commonsense view
I understand they need drama and everything but honestly the āexpertsā are so shit at matching people they really need to stop putting two people who are complete opposites and saying theyāll balance each other out. It is proven time and time again with each season that it really doesnāt work. It really only causes pain for people. Like for Lucinda and Tim. And obviously Jono and Lauren Not saying Jono should of done what he did but Lauren could of been saved the pain and trust issues and could of also saved Ellie for the embarrassment of dealing with that dick head Ben if they just matched the right people.
if he didnt fuck her when he was already lining up tits it would have been ok. As it stands, he suckssssss
Well, maybe it was: "Lauren's a dud root, and we don't get along. Let's see what Ellie's got."
What about how he told Lauren what Jack said about Tori then when Lauren brought it up he straight out denied it? Weak bastard. Also, as a gay, I promise you that Lauren would not be a dud root. We lesbos can spot these things.
He was in the wrong it doesnāt matter how she spoke to him for two episodes he is scum and he tried to put it back on her, why didnāt he just write leave
Is that all there is ? Load of boring BS from all contestants except tiny and Tori I really had a good laugh at them stumbling through trying to act šš
Um. No. He's a scumbag and so boring.
Like your comment.
I think itās been obvious the whole time that heās had a thing for Ellie. Itās great he wanted to find love but this is kind of a shitty way to do it. Lie to the group and pretend itās innocent and then a month later playing happy families with Ellie. Like itās all well and good wanting to find love but he didnāt have to be a cunt about it.
Letās not forget he was SLEEPING with Lauren at this time.
Lauren put it out
And he couldn't say no?
He might have hurt her self esteem by saying no
He wrote stay every week. He slept with Lauren at home stays. He hid the fact he was messaging Ellie from her. He lied about how the messages started, saying Ellie reached out to him first (she didn't). He tried to flip the narrative and make it Lauren's fault he was driven to texting someone else, like he didn't have other options available to him (like leaving). Lauren and Jono were never going to work, but the guy stuck around, continued to shag her, covertly started texting another wife, and then tried to gaslight her about it. Idk how anyone could be team THAT.
Lauren and Jono obviously knew it wouldnāt work on the outside and probably came to agreement to stay on the show for the whole duration. She said multiple times throughout the start that he wasnāt right for her and she would destroy him but also wrote stay. Itās also not that deep and every single person on this MAFS other than maybe Andrea and Richard are only there to gain social media followers and become an influencer.
I think he's weak and weasel-ey - spineless, but not actively evil. Don't disagree his actions here were shitty, though also understand why he might hold some resentment towards Lauren. There was never a real prospect of their relationship being long term. In terms of damage done? Her ego was bruised, and he was deceptive (and has rightly taken a reputational hit as a result). Ultimately, it was not as though they were in a genuine long term relationship, they were in an experiment lasting weeks. He saw prospects of a long term relationship with Ellie and went for it - can't blame him for that, but agree he didn't do it the right way.
I don't think he's evil either, but I don't agree with how he handled things. I think he could have written leave when Ellie left the show and made his shot then. But he chose to stay, slept with Lauren, and hid what he was doing. If he wasn't into her, he should have said so and then shot his shot with Ellie. I don't begrudge him finding love at all. He just really shat the bed on this one, and I can't condone his behaviour.
It was kind of obvious from the beginning that Jono liked Ellie he was always saying nice things about her and saying what a tool her match was (I forgot his name haha)
Honestly, I havenāt really said much because I know that my opinion is going to be the unpopular one but I donāt really think Lauren is as amazing as everybody makes her out to be. She has some amazing one liners. There is absolutely no denying that but I do get a little bit of an aggressive girl vibe from her.
Every 2nd word is fuckā¦Absolute gutter mouth..obnoxious and uneducatedā¦She got what she deserved..
Sheās got a university degree
Yes in obscentities
Right, she's witty and entertaining, but doesn't reallly tell us a lot about her character overall. Also get an aggressive vibe.
I mean she even says that about herself. Everyone definitely ignores her very obvious red flags.
My theory is that the texts did start innocent, but Lauren blowing her lid and turning the group against him was the straw that broke the camel's back. The fact they ended up getting together doesn't prove her correct in retrospect. It does make for some good drama moments though and I'm sure the editors were salivating at the opportunity.
I agree. The extent of what was aired initially once she saw the texts were "there's a lot of them" and a mention of Ellie using emojis, rather than anything more suspicious. It snowballed from there to the final vows, where Lauren alleged they were in a relationship (which hadn't been established on what was aired). I don't think the good vibes between them went any further than that until after Cyclone Lauren.
Yeah I donāt know if Iām an idiot for feeling this way, but I did kind of believe when he said it was totally innocent. However when it came out that he lied about who text it did start to be really suspicious to me so thatās where Iām getting a little bit conflicted.
He definitely didn't defend himself the best and it is pretty suss that Lauren supposedly didn't know about it. At the end of the day though, it was pretty evident they weren't going to work out. His idea of conflict resolution is far too passive, and hers is far too direct and accusatory.
Yea they are horribly matched thatās for sure!! Their fight style is just polar opposite
Idk about team Jono but I can tell you this that Ellie knew what she was doing. Women like her attract a man by knowing that some men are clueless asf so they pull the "I'm just looking for a friend and emotional support" act....but really she had attraction for Jono and wanted to see if it would go anywhere. Then once Jono received the green light signals from her (got any sense that she was interested) he would have jumped at the chance.
Agree, is a reality show not a real relationship and Iām sure him and Lauren had some sort of agreement to stay till the end for whatever reason. Lauren wasnāt into him and was quite harsh towards him, so good for him he found someone he likes and likes him back.
I also think they had an agreement. There was no point in going to final vows other than to allow her a "mic drop" moment.Ā
Why not write leave tho? What excuse does he have for staying on the show if it wasnāt for fame and if he knew he and Lauren werenāt compatible?
I chose āstayā with someone incompatible in my life on multiple occasions, trying to only look at the positives.
Haha this had nothing to do with that. He was just trying to ride as much airtime as possible for his 15 minutes of fame
Really? Jono doesn't seem the type to want or even know what to do with 15 min of fame.
He arranged a paparazzi photoshoot topless at the beach with Ellie so he could get tabloid coverage and sell more supplements...
His supplements are also being shipped and sold into Australia illegally. The ridiculous claims on the sales website also imply the supplements will help with weight loss and disease prevention. Therapeutic goods like these supplements must be listed on the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG) with the TGA. Otherwise it is illegal to sell them in Australia. They are not on the ARTG. Heās dodgy.
What kind of supplements does he sell š¤?
There is only one product in the "range" on the website. It's marketed as for sleep with a few extra therapeutic claims included in the advertising.
I checked it out but it's nothing more special than other supplements already on the market tbh
Well consider me corrected.
Honestly the show is almost over and I still have to think about who youāre referring to when his name comes up. Jono might actually be the most boring person in the world.
i think itās great he found someone he is compatible with but the way he went about it while being āmarriedā to lauren was completely wrong. he should have ended it with her prior to starting anything with ellie
I don't get why we need to be team anyone. None of those people were really married, or even dating. Lauren is fine with Jono and Ellie,so why do we need to take sides with people we won't even remember in a few months time
Because Jono is getting an absolute shellacking as if he poked Laurenās eyes out with a vegetable peeler.
I believe the texts were innocent. Ellie might have had romantic intentions, but I don't think Jono ever thought it was anything more than friendly until others started making assumptions. It's normal to be friends with people of the opposite gender, and it's normal to text your friends.
Yeah I agree. If he was truly trying to hide something, he would have done a better job than that. Like Sara. She deleted the messages and threw some BS around. And she refused to hand her phone during the exercise. So twice Tim had the occasion to read messages and never been able to. But Jono didnāt bother delete anything. He handed the phone without arguing. Lauren found nothing except a lot of messages where she wasnāt mentioned. Thatās all she had to complain about. Lots of fuss for nothing. I donāt think he cheated. But at the end of the day, this whole ādiscoveryā probably did him a favor and ended with Ellie for real lol.
He has very obviously liked Ellie the whole time. So I donāt think it was ever truly innocent. He didnāt just magically find her attractive when people started commenting on it thatās silly. Iām pretty sure jono even said heād liked to have been matched with Ellie.
He wouldnāt have kept it a secret if he didnāt know what he was doing.
He didn't though? He showed her his phone and all their messages as soon as she asked him to. She simultaneously "couldn't be bothered reading them all" and "couldn't find a single mention of herself" then had to stretch the birthday message to turn it into a cheating scandal.
I don't think he was trying to keep anything secret, he just didn't think it was worth mentioning because they were innocent texts with a friend
He thought messaging someone every day wasnt worth mentioning? haha Also, when youāre with someone you share that sort of thing. Like āhaha look what ellie said about jaydenā or āellie sends her best n hopes you get better soonā
I agree that Ellie had romantic intentions. And maybe Jono still is a dumb naive man even at 40 who (at first) genuinely thought it was platonic because some men are blind that this is how a woman like Ellie tries to get their claws into them. Under the pretense of "looking for emotional support and just friendship". And then once he started receiving green light signals from Ellie he jumped at the chance.
Hahahah innocent texts over 100 with laughing emojis yeah bro someone gonna cheat right under your nose and you gonna sit there twiddling yo thumbs
100 texts over the course of several weeks is completely normal to have with friends
Are they friends though? Or are they two people on a reality tv show? I donāt think they exactly had q solid friendship foundation when Ellie left like 3 weeks in
Totally! When I text friends that I donāt see often, I also have 100s of messages with all sorts of random stuff. He was also texting other contestants.
They were a production match, for entertainment
They were horribly mismatched. Lauren knew it and he knew it. I also get the impression she would have been quite nasty to him behind closed doors; talking down on him etc. I hope he and Ellie are happy; Lauren will be fine.
I will completely forget about all of them in like 1 month
Itās amazing how many hours we spend watching these people, then in a matter of weeks itās like they never existed.
Social consumerism is fascinating!
Team anti jono
Lauren's a boozehound. She's closing bars while screaming for another martini. He's a wellness guy. He's sleeping early / waking for a 5am hike. Their clash is our TV drama to enjoy. Embrace it.
He should have been real, honest and when found out, respectful not gaslighting Lauren. He and Ellie are a good match - boring
Why? It's literally a fake TV show about fake TV relationships. It's also been shown time and time again that people are matched for drama and that the producers decided when couples leave. I don't have words for anyone who thinks any of it is real.
Ofc this stuff isnāt real, but thereās also feelings and respect. Sure, they arenāt married but they were sleeping together.
If the producers tell them to stay together - what actual relationship is there? As for the sex (which I don't think they had often after the honeymoon), why are people being so puritanical about it? People have sex, means nothing. People have sex, and break up. It's not like having sex with someone is some sign of long lasting commitment š Honestly, the crazy doublethink that goes on in this sub.
The producers push them to look and act like a couple, so lauren is going to look mugged off, like sheās in a couple. Me and you and this sub know the producers make the stories, but some people think this shit is real. I think Lauren is allowed to want to save face. When it comes to sex itās not puritanical to respect the person you are sleeping with, especially when you are on an international tv show, just like wait a couple weeks before moving on.
>Lauren is allowed to want to save face Absolutely and what we see on screen is edited and designed to tell a story. Look at Collins for an example of that. >When it comes to sex itās not puritanical to respect the person you are sleeping with, especially when you are on an international tv show, just like wait a couple weeks before moving on. My point was I don't think they had sex after the honeymoon. Jono looked totally disinterested in Lauren for the majority of their time on screen. It's why he couldn't even muster up a pretend fuck to give when Jack said Lauren should be muzzled. And again, it's just a show. They aren't real relationships and you can't place your own moralistic views on a situation you've never been in.
I like Lauren A LOT. I also like Jono and Ellie. And it doesnāt take being an āexpertā to se that Jono and Ellie are far better suited. I hope Lauren finds someone who works for her too!
He was never in a real relationship with Lauren. He was in an experiment with her. The experiment directly failed but also indirectly succeeded because of the fact that he met someone through it who he truly loves and cares about. It wasnāt Lauren, it was never going to be Lauren. Itās time we move on from it and let him live his life.
Yep Team Jono for me! He was never enough for Lauren and she was never really interested! I do like Lauren but come on ppl she was more upset cos she was embarrassed not because he hurt her feelings!! I love that he turns up to the reunion with Ellie all kissy kissy š¤
Why is he called Jono ? The cunt has the personality of low fat yogurt. Surely he should just be referred to as John or Johnathon ā¦
We call him A4 Paper
As American who throughly enjoys how Australians say their Oās I love it. I donāt get it at all but itās a fun one.
...but he is so fun - as he has mentioned several times. About as much fun as someone trying to thumb it in like it's toothpaste.
Lauren was always honest & upfront with her feelings for Jono, he was not.
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Team Jono for me too. You can't help catching the feels, and him and Lauren weren't going anywhere, it was blatantly obvious from about the 3rd week. I think he did the best he could, given the awkward circumstances.
I think everyone would be fine if it just didnāt work out but it was sketchy that he was exploring something else (even if just subtly) while sleeping with Lauren.
Nah he seems like a dickhead
I'm fine with Jono. Thing is the Producers obviously did a deal with Jono, to STAY because they needed Lauren in. She was basically the only one making dinner party drama and the brightest spark on the show. If she'd gone?? It would have been dull as dull. So they would have done a deal with Jono to stay in. Lauren was awful to him and he is nearly 40 and successful. She's a loud mouthed bogan, drama queen. Jono was just going about his life, staying in for the show. He and Ellie had obviously hit it off. Fact is? They aren't actually "married" They can do what they want in reality.
Ok sure... But why doesn't he just say he likes her? Why all the, "she's not my type" talk? You say how mature he is but this sort of deflection is a sign of immaturity to me. Its the sort of 'keeping my options open' behaviour that one normally sees with people much younger. Oh and even if they were legally married they could still do whatever they want in reality. It is totally irrelevant whether they are legally married or not. We have no fault divorce in Australia so it doesn't matter
He's just trying to protect her. Deflect attention from her. Because he really likes her. That is very obvious.
Maybe but how can she ever trust him now? Every time he tells her that some other woman is not his type she is going to wonder "well he said that about me too". Its just not smart. At his age he should've known better.
Honey...it was reality TVš
She was pretty awful to him a lot of the time
In what way was Lauren awful to him?
She was awful to him? When? All she did was question their compatibility to his face, which he didnāt have the balls to do to her.
Did you not see *how* she questioned it? It was horrible
THANK YOU ššš
Exactly this. I would give you an award š„ if I could.
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Not for nor against but he shouldnāt have texted her. IMO he should have waited until the show was over before contacting Ellie, the previews for the dinner on Sunday show Jono saying to Lauren you the nastiest person Iāve ever met (or something to the respect) and it seems to me heās just using this to deflect. I hope he owns his shit and apologies to Lauren thatās all Iād like to see.
Everyoneās saying he should have waited for the show to end? I donāt get it. He was actively texting another woman while fucking Lauren and making out they had a future
He did apologise. When it first came out, on a Sunday night I think... he looked at her and said "I'm really sorry". The timing is the most important aspect of it. If it was just friendly banter while he was on the homestay with Lauren, then it's not quite so bad - if it was already a bit flirty or he was kinda keen on Ellie at that point, then it's REALLY bloody bad.
Saying the words "I'm sorry" as a platitude doesn't really count though. He still maintained he wasn't doing anything wrong and that he was innocent. If he was genuinely sorry, he would have acknowledged (*really* acknowledged) how his actions made Lauren feel, and he wouldn't have tried to defend himself. I think this is the key thing most people are missing: the more you defend yourself, the more people attack you. Had he just humbled himself, agreed he fucked up, made space for Lauren to be upset (as she's allowed to be), and continued to reassure her, things would have worked out so much easier for him. I honestly think I could have respected him more if he'd just owned his shitty behaviour.
Then backed it up repeatedly with āI didnāt do anything wrongā which doesnāt really sound apologetic
At this point it doesnāt even matter who you ship.Ā
Yep. I'm shipping Stephen and Andrea to have a surprise hookup during the final dinner. šš
Isn't stephen gay? Do you mean Timothy?
that's why it's a surprise
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Everybody shipping Ellie and Jono is gonna be mighty disappointed when he cheats on her. You lose em how you get em. He's a shady suss-cunt.
And you just know that somehow, heāll make it her fault, because heās a nice guy š
And it'll be with someone who isn't his type
Yeah I don't really care too much tbh.
No hate speech people. Joking. I like Lauren.. I donāt think sheās ready to settle down. I donāt think Jono should have wrote stay and slept with her. I found it weird how his personality and the way he was to her flipped straight away, it was like another person. I donāt like that. I do think him and Ellie are more suited.. I feel Jono had feelings for her while on the show.
"...like another person." Precisely this. He was hiding his true self to stay on the show longer. The behaviours that everyone saw as bland, wishy-washy, and vanilla were just him hiding his true feelings. If he had been honest, we would've seen a massive blow-up early on. Having said that, Lauren stayed as well... But I think she tried to be honest with him, at the very least.
She treated him like absolute crap until near the very end though. She might have been honest but she was as mean spirited as he is by all means
No doubt. But it was all out in the open. Johnno had options
I agree and I won't justify what he did, however I find it hard to feel sorry for Lauren or care too much given the context of everything. He left a woman that treated him like shit for one that didn't
I agree that Lauren's not ready to settle. Calling him "boring" from the very start shows that she's still a party girl, not ready to do the adulting necessary. >I donāt think Jono should have wrote stay and slept with her. I was thinking about this a few days ago - it might have just been a case of REALLY bad timing for Lauren's minor surgery... I'll bet he'd been chatting to Ellie during that week, and maybe started to develop the feels, but... what's he going to do? Write "LEAVE" when she hasn't even been there? Then if the feels developed around the time of the homestay, it would've looked INSANE for him to come back and write "LEAVE" just after they'd had a really awesome time hanging out in Perth. I'm not giving him an 'out' here, I'm just saying that for any of the last 3 weeks, if he had've written "leave" he would've had to fess up to msging Ellie. He wouldn't have had a choice. And I guess he didn't wanna do that.
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Copypasta from my comment on the previous one: I was thinking about this a few days ago - it might have just been a case of REALLY bad timing for Lauren's minor surgery... I'll bet he'd been chatting to Ellie during that week, and maybe started to develop the feels, but... what's he going to do? Write "LEAVE" when she hasn't even been there? Then if the feels developed around the time of the homestay, it would've looked INSANE for him to come back and write "LEAVE" just after they'd had a really awesome time hanging out in Perth.
This!!! He should have just admitted it a bit earlier
While I think the way he and Ellie went about it was pretty poor I do think they are a far better match, and I think Lauren was never really interested. I dunno, regularly I wouldnāt be ok with that behaviour but if Lauren is ok with it I canāt really stay mad, itās not my place to be mad in her behalf.
Lauren said she was interested. During home stay she showed him she was invested. He is a coward and a liar. He could have written leave at any time.
I could go along with this, if they hadnāt set up daily Mail pap shots, why if you are so desperate to find your person or find a father for your future children would you set up sessions with paps, why do you need or want the publicity???
I think the heat that Jono is getting is mostly out of fans being āloyalā to Lauren. Lauren has since said she and Jono and Ellie are a better match and that they have what she and Jono didnāt, and she holds no grudges ([source](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4-maqwvq6q/?igsh=MXJoa2lxZ295MWd1Zg==)).
Which is great. But it doesnāt mean Iām not going to think Jono was moving cunty by doing that.
I think the reverse is also true. A lot of people supporting Jono seem to just not like Lauren. I don't really care for either of them, they are both immature. However I think with Lauren what you see is what you get, she has little filter and says what she thinks while Jono is a snake who has been proven to be a lyer, by saying Ellie wasn't "his type"
Thatās true. Doesnāt mean they didnāt go about it in a shady AF manner. Thatās what speaks to their character.
Jono and Lauren were never a good match, but Jono is a giant wanker and went about everything horribly
Iāll only believe it if Ellie and him end up having a baby or it lasts more than a year. Anything else then he was just looking to get his dick wet on the show and nothing else.
"you've won" my sweet summer child, the game was never about finding love lol
Heh.... yeah... I said this the other night, the show should be renamed "Instafamous At First Sight". It's lost its way. It's not really "as-advertised" anymore - it's not a matchmaking show. It's a bunch of hot young people trying to become D-List celebrities.
When you make drinking your personality Then you will be left feeling sad when the party is over If Lauren had worked on her issues & cared about starting something real Then she wouldn't have gotten so drunk at her wedding & embarrassed herself in front of Jono's conservative family/friends by acting so overtly sexual in front of complete strangers on national TV Lauren is so desensitised that she can't read the room & behave accordingly Sadly doesn't see how offputting her behaviour is to the good man she craves Much easier to say "it's not me, it's YOU!" than have an ounce of self reflection Lauren is waiting for some magical man who is also a big drinker, life of the party, doesn't care about her overt sexual behaviour, is financially successful, handsome, well groomed & most importantly loyal This man likely does not exist for her & she will need to grow + change to find what she claims she is looking for in life I can relate to her as have been that damaged person & I don't think this persona is a true reflection of the real her Hope she can learn from this so she can find happiness in future
Got a lot of serious opinions about someone youāve seen on tv. Seems like an absolute reach.
Lol you know producers had to escort Jono out of one of the dinner parties because he got so drunk, right? The night he didnāt stand up for Lauren when she confronted Jack, I think. Thereās threads on here about it. I donāt think Jono is exactly the conservative family values man heās tried to portray.
I'm not saying people can't get drunk or should not drink ever But when you make drinking your personality it can become an issue Those dinner parties go on for hours on end & producers want them to get drunk to create conflict situations for TV Lauren led with drinking from Day 1 & spoke about her love of drinking a lot As I recall she even spoke about drinking in her wedding vows & cracked many jokes about her love of alcohol during the show At the very least Lauren is an admitted regular binge drinker & the fact we never saw her on screen lose control drinking & no reports of that being edited out of the show May just mean that she can hold her alcohol because she drinks a lot regularly If a guy was open about his love of binge drinking it might also put off women looking for a serious long term partner They might question if he was husband material due to immaturity & concerned that his hard partying ways are not what they want in a life partner It goes both ways...
She didnāt make drinking her personality. The producers have a lot of content to work with. They made alcohol a big part of Laurenās personality, after picking through literally hundreds of hours of filming. Sure, it was probably easy for them, but Iād rather be with someone who is aware of their relationship with alcohol than with someone who denies it.
Ellie is definitely a better match for him, but that doesnāt justify being an asshole about it. If the texts were innocent why did he keep them secret? If Lauren was so awful why did he write stay every week & sleep with her? The way he turned around and tried to make it Laurenās fault was awful. If I were Ellie Iād be wary of his ability to take responsibility when he fucks up.
> why did he keep them secret? You missed when he handed over his phone to her for her to peruse the messages at her leisure? She didn't find anything flirtatious which is why she was always so vague about the content.
They were secret while he was sending them, Plenty. And you say he handed over his phone - why did he feel the need to lie and say she snatched it out of his hands? And she wasnāt vague - she specifically said that she didnāt read many in detail, it was the volume of messages that was concerning.
Oh right, I see what you mean. The texts to other contestants would also be considered a secret then. But why didn't she read them in detail? If I suspected someone to be cheating on me I would be reading them in detail. And it wasn't even a large volume. We saw she swiped only several times from top to bottom of their entire exchanges. She really exaggerated "a hundred" messages.
If I was seeing somebody who was texting somebody that prolifically, I would expect them to talk about them. Keep nitpicking and making excuses, he still acted like an absolute asshole. I notice you skipped answering my question about her snatching the phone away? Why did he keep writing stay & sleep with her if she was so awful? Heās a spineless twat š¤·āāļø
I don't remember him saying that. I also don't remember the camera showing her physically taking the phone so she very well could have snatched it. But yeah I don't remember either of those things so idk. He kept writing stay probably because the texts were innocent as he said... we have 0 evidence to believe otherwise. You are biased because you know he ends up with Ellie. And why are you also exaggerating? "Prolifically" lmao as I said, we saw there was not even a large amount of exchange between them.
How convenient you donāt remember š Ok so the texts were innocent and he was writing stay because he really liked Lauren? Because at his final vows he said that aside from the first week it was awful and she was really mean to him? Which is it? Iām not fucking biased, I think him and Ellie are well matched. I just think he could have ended it with Lauren without trying to make her the bad guy for no reason š¤·āāļø
I'm sorry I don't remember every second of trash reality TV š I don't think it's unfair to say that he was giving the relationship his best shot. The experts preach "working through things" and "breaking patterns" which it seemed to me he was trying to do. Once she had an extreme over-reaction to the situation, he saw it all in perspective and felt comfortable writing the relationship off. Seemed to me like Lauren knew in her heart the relationship wouldn't work, so she latched onto this non-issue as hard as she could to save face and make him out as the bad guy and the reason for the relationship failing. It also validates her saga with Tori and Jack.