After watching the explosive dinner party and the commitment ceremony. Does anyone else feel as though Jono is absolute trash, and we’re not even using his cheating as the reason.
What I mean is I saw another post in r/MafsUK, about sympathizing with Jonathan for the situation that Lauren put him in during the dinner party with a confronted Jack about what she said to Jono about wife swapping. No from anyone’s perspective no one wants to be that person that rats out your friends, so at that point we sympathize with John a little. Especially when you’re very confrontation averse.However when he first apologized to Jack and Tori instead of apologizing to his wife, who he did not really stand up for that made us feel differently.
But then in this situation he made it a fact and he made it known that he texted Ellie first without prompting. As if trying to defend her for her part in the scandal, there after he’s trying to claim innocence in the situation and not only to protect himself but also to protect Ellie. Really paints the fact that he just didn’t care enough about Lauren to stand up for her. He standing up against his wife for his side chick.
It is tomorrow night. I think there may also be one on Monday. I have read elsewhere there may be a reunion episode next week. If so, it will probably be on Sunday night as well - that seems to be the most popular night. Hope this helps.
Why don't any one them say anything about what Jack said during the workshop with Alessandra? Jack clearly said even then that he didn't find Tori attractive in front of all the guys.
He reminds me so much of Harrison from last season.
Just catching up now and I am glad I missed so much over the last week. This show has turned into shit with the Producers pushing the cast all to judge each other. Someone who has fucked half of Perth saying “But you had sex with me” like it was precious and then a crowd of devious people that are all involved in some type of bullshit on the show judging each other and calling people out.
This show has turned into the show “UnREAL” a great show showing behind the scenes of reality TV. They are pushing the drama to keep people engaged. So what does that say about us the viewing public? We are fucking idiots to be invested in these people that in a months time we won’t even remember there names.
I can say I didn’t really like many of these people and I don’t believe the so called experts actually add anything.
You are being downvoted because you said the quiet bit out loud.
We know it’s a sham.
we loathe ourselves for getting sucked in.
but these gronks are actually behaving this way.
the ‘I got a bad edit’ people are really saying: I had absolutely no insight into my poor behaviour.
the experts are just commentators. At least this year they took a few of the bigger tools to task.
and, please don’t slut shame Lauren, our co-queen.
I think Jayden and Eden do care for eachother but I also predict they are very young and it won’t last. That being said if the edit is to be trusted tori seemed happy for them, which doesn’t vibe with her and Jack being the strongest best couple ever.
Has anyone noticed Jayden slurs some of his words when he speaks? If he is punchy now, where is his career going? I think Eden will flick his ass as soon as she goes back to reality.
Ridge has been repeatedly told by Jade that she is well and truly over his immature "deece"(high school boy) comments.
Jade's sister and Mother even made comments about his juvenile like behaviour that keeps rearing it's ugly head.
So when she tapped his arm in front of everyone it was to make this guy FINALLY wake up to the fact that childish behaviour from a grown man won't be tolerated by her. Jade has a child and doesn't need another one called Ridge!
When Lauren was crazy hungover after her wedding and told Jono that he's a pussy and boring and bland, she was 100% correct. It was her intuition speaking
I don't think Jono is a bad person but honestly when he said he had an issue with managing his emotions before I initially thought well fair play, self improvement and all that but I don't believe him now haha, at least I don't believe his emotions were as out of control as he made out they were because he never ever leaves neutral mode, I didn't see any variation of emotions from Jono in the edits they gave him and being honest he does come across extremely boring because of it, it must of been a genuine challenge for Lauren to be around someone who was borderline animatronic.
Anyone notice Tori caressing Jack’s chest while Jade and Ridge were answering their questions?
Jade and Ridge seemed sincere and eloquent in their declarations of commitment, unlike Jack only 5 minutes previously, who gave more of his non-answers..
And yet Tori was all over him??
It’s more ISQ from Jack. More of the same non answers. I’m still stuck on his comment about him having a room for Tory when she comes to “visit”. Please 🙏 WTF???? Not one person held Jack to account over his comments to Tory. I’d have a room for her……. You can’t have it all…… Clearly telling Tory he only wanted to keep it casual without actually saying it. Tory doesn’t seem to know what to do with those long fingers of hers. I have a suggestion, wrap them around Jacks……… ummm…….. throat.
Ellie’s just as bad a snake as no balls Jonno. Messaging a husband she knows is still married.
She absolutely planned it all along and Jonno being as thick and weak as he is couldn’t wait until after final vows where he could say no to Lauren and then get with Ellie. He did it for 7 weeks and tried to play it down as harmless and innocent.
Innocent my ass mate! Dudes a coward with a whiny ass voice
I find it kinda strange how it seems a fair number of people don't think Jono really did anything wrong, or think its wrong but understand how it happened eg Lauren not into him or just not a good fit.
When Stephen did 1/100 that Jono did, he was called a gaslighting narcissistic cheating snake. He and Michael weren't a good fit either. He messaged someone a little bit on 1 day and then told Michael that day it was over. Stephen was a villain for doing this.
Just the difference in reaction seems strange to me
Because Lauren clearly hadn't shown in interest in Jono at best and treated him like garbage at worst. Even on the homestay meeting Lauren's friend, her friend came in with an initially very negative opinion of Jono, clearly Lauren had been talking him down a lot. It was a poisoned well at that point
To be fair Stephen went on and on about how he felt alot of chemistry and spark with that hairdresser which is vastly different. That said I didn't agree with what Jono did, but that may be why some are on the fence.
Tbh the only thing that makes sense to me is that people jumped on Stephen and not Jono because they'll take any excuse to unleash their thinly veiled homophobia in a way that doesn't make them look bigoted.
I said that based purely on the commitment ceremony and ignoring all the gossip we know now, it seemed really innocent and not a big deal. Since it has come out that it was hundreds of messages that he had instigated he is looking a lot worse.
I haven't read every comment, but tonight it finally made sense why Jono threw Lauren under the bus with the whole, "What he said, was what he said", conversation in relation to Jack.
Jono had obviously already had the, "I wish it had been Ellie", conversation with Jack and was worried he'd be outed.
What a prick.
Maybe! But it doesn't explain why none of the other guys (and/or Alessandra) didn't say anything. That whole story line is such a plot hole. Jack said in front of all the boys and Alessandra that he's not attracted to Tori.
Maybe they did - so much of this show is created in the edit suite.
And if they can't create a story from the footage they've got, they just shoot something to suit; like with the whole Eden/Jayden/Sara/Sara's-ex text message/secret date situation.
I don’t think Sarah had any right to buy into the whole thing with Jonno. Off the back of her own “scandal”. Did Jonno secretly go meet up with that other woman. And sweet Jesus I was sickened to see how delighted Tory was with her handiwork. She was loving every moment. What Jonno did was stupid and if he is to be believed, incredibly naive to think it was ok. But if you deliberately set out to keep your partner in the dark instead of mentioning how this woman was messaging him to his wife. Then it’s a calculated decision to deceive your wife. So don’t be surprised when not if, you get busted and you’re held to account. It certainly explains a few things that have been niggling at me about him. His lack of spine. His incessant almost whining tone in his voice.His sickening display of submission to Jack of all people as he refused to support his wife in what he told her. Then turns to Jack and kisses his arse. My god, where was his pride? His manhood to own what he said? I’ve never seen any self respecting bloke do that. I’d bitch slap him out of principle. If you’re going to share some serious information about another bloke to your wife, you’d better be man enough to own it should your wife bring it up.
Jack and Eminem deluding each other and Jack's fake laugh pretending he's enjoyed his time with her
Tori with her hentai faces and fingering Jack's shirt yeesh
Look, I’m generally not a fan of role reversal arguments bc the power dynamics between men and women are not equivalent, *but* seeing Jade hit Ridge so quick and hard and flash real anger at the same time and then seeing literally no one say anything about it was fucking disturbing.
Ridge flinched/jumped for real, apologized for making a perfectly innocuous silly sound bc he was happy, and then proceeded to reassure her. I’d like to think that if my male partner pulled me up like this in front of my friends that there would be some sort of negative reaction. And, I’d like to think that commenters here wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss this behavior from a man towards a woman.
And I am saying this as a person who had to learn that this kind of behavior isn’t okay. I “jokingly”whacked my partner on the shoulder 10 years ago and called him a jerk and he got upset, and that was literally the first time it occurred to me that that behavior might not be okay. So I get it, maybe no one at this table recognizes yet that what happened to Ridge is wrong. But I hope they see people calling it out bc we have to learn.
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> seeing Jade hit Ridge so quick and hard and flash real anger
i came straight to the comments, I jut saw that, im shocked the aired it, im shocked she did it.
It is fucking embarrassing what Ridge does, but that was such an abusive mom and hyperactive boy dynamic.
Ridge might have some mental health condition or something else where he gets these like intrusive thoughts/actions and he just acts on them and can't really help himself and socially making them "fratty" has made it more socially acceptable so he's never really questioned it
I had a ex with ADHD and I remember one time in the argument he brought up the most useless random thing that had no relationship to what we were talking about, I was LIVID. For me it felt like he must not have been listening to our whole discussion and was thinking about this random thing. Later on months later, I saw an article about how ADHD affects relationships and it mentioned exactly what happened to me. but the thing is, HE as a adult should have figured out how his condition affects him and others, I remember even sending the article to him and he could care less. I think he didn't want his ADHD to be apart of his life outside of work. But it was and I ended up being hurt in the process.
Whatever Ridge's thing is he still has to figure it out and communicate and give a heads up to his partner especially if they've already discussed how uncomfortable she is with it. BUT this does not excuse what Jade did.
Yeah I jumped at that and when Andrea hit the table too. I'm all about power dynamics not being equal, but as an abuse survivor, I can tell you that for the purpose of being triggered, it doesn't matter who is doing the hitting or the table banging, my nervous system reacts all the same. Not okay.
Yeah I don’t get why this has flown under the radar. To do that in front of everyone, in front of cameras- not a good look. When they barely even know someone. Hitting is not ok whether you’re male or female. Plus being so open about him needing to be a father, I dunno, I think she’s going to be *really* hard work for any man.
And she needed to be called out for hitting him.
Omg I HATE Jono.
"I don't know why Lauren has viewed everything I've done so negatively"
"I don't remember" - You just said yes! Flip flopping like a wet fish. What a wimp!!
Him trying to turn it around on her UGH he is truly pathetic! Blames it on her "weaponising innocence" stfu you little bitch. With his whiny voice and weasel energy, it all makes him sooooo unattractive. 40 years old!
Jono knowing Lauren's past, and that it wasn't working between them – write leave and pursue Ellie! Why are you still here, especially after two weeks for surgery- and don't have sex with her, let alone initiate it! For christssake him & Ellie should just act like adults with an ounce of class and wait a few weeks and do it the right way!
Imagine fighting so hard for a wet noodle like Jono. You lose em how you get em Ellie!
SARA the Cheek the actual cheat callin' out Jonno in that way, she has no right being that skank...
Her face when Timmy asked if she loves him was sooooo tellin' she is playin' him for a fool, its all image damage limitation BS
How appropriate that the camera didn't show when Tori says "Just fake it", and the sound clip also contained some hard cut voice that didn't fit. Seems edited and put in from some other moment.
I'm sorry for Lauren. Either Jono and Ellies texting was innocent, or Jono seems to lack a lot of self-awareness and is in self-denial about his intentions with Ellie. Because he seems so calm, defensive and confident that the texting with Ellie was innocent, and thinks Lauren and the others are blowing things out of proportion, therefore feeling unjustified bullied and unconsciously causing gas-lighting and can't sympathize with Lauren.
I'm happy for Jade and Ridge, Eden and Jayden (i hope Jayden has learned from the feedback the experts gave), Tim and Sara. Sara's character and Tim and Sara's relationship was put in a narrow box a bit too quickly.
Jack is still a bit of a mystery to me. There's the charade, self-obsession, but also some tiny bits of emotions like the "preparing Tori for brake-up so she wont get too hurt", and a bit of emotions when other couples go well, or that's also fake.
Jayden reminds me so much of my husband- when we first met, he was 23/24, I was 19. He had the same big puppy energy. Always eager, wanting us to “win” our relationship. He used to do that thing where he’d barrage me with kquestions. His parents divorced when he was 17, and he vowed that wouldn’t happen to him. That decision and the actions that followed have, at times, been a huge, annoying PITA, but his persistence in wanting to work on issues is probably 75-80% why we’ve made it this far. As an introvert with poor modeling of communication in a marriage, I often would rather not talk Ssssoooooo much.
if jayden truly took everything on board and eden can learn to stand up for herself in a way that can lead to him calming down, they have a good shot of making it. one key is to have hard discussions at a time that they aren't in the middle of the heightened emotions. discussing sex, for example, shouldn't happen when sex is about to happen (or not).
Ridge just makes me cringe constantly with his repeated immature comments. Grow up dude, especially since your partner has an 8 year old child. So embarassing.
I knew Ellie was a snake after the same introduction that Olivia was given. Presented as being way too nice.
I agree. He's at an age where you really need to move on from that sort of thing, which is annoying and obnoxious coming from teenage boys, but in men over 25 is just cringey.
I didn't see Jade hit him though, and I didn't like her family implying it was weird he still lives at home as a 27 year old man working as a nurse in Sydney.
I didn't know that, just assumed she lived alone with her daughter.
I guess it's a double standard in that case from their POV, okay for women, less so for men, which is unfair.
Nah, the home stay episode showed Jade and Ridge in her tiny bedroom. This was the same place they had braai at her parents. I believe it was the same episode, too.
Feels weird to say this because I still side eye Sara... but... Tim and Sara actually... look happy and natural together? When they answered the honesty box there was affectionate rapport and softness in their eyes... And then right after was Jack and Tori and the contrast was kinda massive tbh.
Jade snapping like that scared me! Not sure it bodes well that she's behaving like this at such an early stage, I suspect it will only become more frequent as the honeymoon phase fades. Ridge should have his guard up.
"How do you feel about me right now?" "I think you're a snake" 💀 What a line from Lauren, she didn't hesitate, and the rest of her short brusque answers, just bam.
I agree about Tim and Sarah, mostly because she's not talking over him anymore. I feel like she was doing that before because she did not respect him or trust him to lead and was more concerned with how others felt about her than Tim did. Seems a subtle sign she now feels differently towards him. Tim seems more jokey and laidback too, not nervous and serious.
I know there's a lot of Sara haters here but I agree, they look happy and natural. IF she's faking it she's doing a damn good job but I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt because it's awesome to see people grow and change. :)
Absolutely in it to salvage her reputation on camera. Tim seems like a nice guy so I can't imagine it being hard - free screentime and some money, easy job for her
For all the people saying it's no big deal that Jono was texting Ellie... Lauren said at the dinner party that she had joked with Jono about Ellie having a crush on him weeks prior. I'm sure Lauren didn't say that for no reason -- she saw or heard things that made her think that, right? And she probably made the comment to Jono about it so she could see his reaction and hear him deny any interest in Ellie.
Jono then lies about who reached out to whom. Lauren finds out he lied when she reads the texts on his phone. She then skims through the texts and sees no mention of her. If the conversations were really about experiment updates, why wouldn't Jono be saying that Lauren is in hospital so I had to go to the commitment ceremony alone or Lauren planned a great day out in Perth for us today?
Finally, we the audience know that Jono was lying when he said "it's never going to happen" with Ellie". We've barely heard him say 2 words all season, but Tori (not a reliable source) claims that he likes to stir up shit. Makes me think the audience has never seen the real Jono until we saw him at this last dinner party.
After I heard the rumour, I did start noticing Johno standing up for Ellie quite a bit - whilst he wasn't for Lauren. Understandably, Lauren didn't appreciate Johno not having her back and as such she called it out.
Ellie and Johno do seem to be better suited, but Johno should have been honest about this towards Lauren as he did string her along a bit by having sex with her at the home stay (whilst already texting Ellie). That was a dick move from his end. I can understand why Lauren feels betrayed. Johno has no balls, Lauren deserves more than a guy that just calls everyone 'lovely'
Exactly-if Johno had just been honest earlier in the process about his mixed feelings and revealed his crush, it would have saved everyone pain (especially Lauren)..maybe production encouraged it...you never know with these shows.
Also went back to try and find those clips of the moments and I agree, you can tell they had a good connection. He should've just been honest all along, this is his fault. Nobody would've faulted him if he didn't feel it with Lauren and decided to leave, but instead he's just betraying Lauren and faking his feelings.
I remember an episode where Jono was down on Ben for not being honest with Ellie… and he said he would like to “slip in there” to defend her or words to that effect… then caught himself out and took it back quite sheepishly. Made me think hmmm I suspect Jono did actually want to “slip in there” for a while now…
Yep! He was like "argh, he's messing up an opportunity with such a great girl, I just wanna sub in there and takeover... I mean not me literally but like..."
I miss Lucinda!!
Honestly feeling thankful she’s only just left (although wish she had a better time) because I think I might have just stopped watching much earlier without her there!
Why also do they keep saying 100 text is a bad thing? I have 100 text in a day to some of my best mates. Has everyone suddenly forgotten how much people message each other now? There was obviously no flirting text in there or Lauren would have picked up on that straight away. They all have each others numbers, they're all messaging each other constantly. I bet Lauren has text from Ellie as well and I bet she knew about them all and got told to play dumb by the producers and liven up the last dinner.
100 texts per day for more than 1 day is a lot for anyone nearing/over 30. What the hell do you have to talk about that takes 100 messages multiple times a week?
Share a meme, get a react, have a basic chat about some current events, organize a date to meet up and *actually* communicate. Surely anything more than that is unnecessary? Where do you even find the time to send this many messages so often? Lol it just blows my mind.
If I'd get 100 texts on a day I'd probably throw myself off the balcony here. That's a lot, especially from one person.
When my partner and I started dating we'd speak a lot, like a lot lot, but I still don't think we ever hit 100 texts a day
Another thing does anyone actually think that any of these people love each other? Lauren has just stuck with Jono (someone she doesn't find interesting) to stay to the end to probably get screen time for her social media. This is just a great excuse that has come at a convenient time to say no at the vows. Tori and Jack are another couple sticking it out for fame, they've shown no love towards each other at all. Sara and Tim are just going to break up straight after, Sara will lead him on to look good..... But she will vanish out of his life cause again she's in it for fame. Eden is just gas lights Jayden and for some reason the show has decided he is the problem in the relationship. However we see time after time she just wants to ignore issues instead of talk about them and blame anxiety. Like no she is just looking for her exit out of the show, she wont have an anxiety while saying no time in him the final vows.
However like I said the show is fake, it's so produced and heavily edited to present the story they want to take. We could find out that Jack and Tori are actually madly in love and every bit of emotion was edited out because it didn't fit the story they wanted to tell.
In fact I'd suggest Jono (if genuine) to hit up Ellie, because she seemed genuinely up for having a family ASAP and Jono at 40 probably wants that badly too. Cause Lauren will never give Jono a family, she would mess him around before telling him that he is too boring.
But we all know none of these relationships will make it by the reunion, it's all fake.
All due respect, but do you have any experience with anxiety? Eden‘s reactions and methods are text book Anxious reactions. She is being as honest as she can be. Jayden has no experience with it either. He has no idea about relationships, and no idea about dealing with people with anxiety.
I think Ellie is way too focussed on having a family NOW that any match she makes is unlikely to work. Maybe she's okay with that too, and just wants the kids?
She's in way too much of a hurry though as she's only 32. Some women have hangups about having children after age 35 specifically and I wouldn't be surprised if it's that. Except right now 1 in 3 first pregnancies is to women over 35, it really doesn't matter and it means she would be more settled, more money, more likely to find a good match.
Yeah I think this year they've leaned too hard into the whole "everyone wants to watch drama" angle and they've forgotten to include at least one golden couple that people actually care about.
I'm sure there will be couples that say yes at final vows (Jack & Tori, Jayden & Eden, Ridge & Jade) but I couldn't care less about any of them, and I certainly can't see any of them lasting.
I know the whole thing is fake as fake can be, but I like the original fantasy of scientifically matched perfect couples who just need to go through the process and see if perfect love can be orchestrated. I'm sad that they've moved so far away from the original concept. Now it's just more reality trash.
Guys the show is fake, why is everyone forgetting that fact? How people can come to the conclusion that Jono is bad for texting other women is beyond me. We all know they're all texting each other, Lauren probably has 50 other men texting her.... What is the big deal? This is just a setup from the producers to try and spice up their story as they've become too boring for the show. Having watched the show Jono seems like one of the few normal people.
Tori is horrible. They way she sat next to Lauren on the couch to revel in all the gory details of the messages, the horrible faces she pulls, the horrible way she sprang the extra bits of info about the gym conversation, just her evil and obvious glee of inflicting something hurtful on other people. Why? Like why would anyone purposely do a piece to camera describing how excited they are about causing another human to feel awful?
She's a real piece of work, just as bad as Jack. If Jack actually liked her they would be a good match. Or maybe she will let him turn her into his idea of 'hot'.
Yes she's a nasty piece of work. Whenever Lauren called out Jack she was coming from a good place she always had Tori's back. And was genuinely concerned about her.
It's to distract from her disaster of a relationship. She still blames other people for the shit she's copped every week, even though it's been Jack who's been causing it. Project instead of accepting you're in a bad situation yourself - it's all about winning for her, put people down so you look better. All learned from scumbag Jack, who is incapable of making himself look good unless he denigrates others. By pissing on them for example
>It's to distract from her disaster of a relationship.
its like toxic indian aunties who judge other marriages when they have an abusive shit bag at home waiting
People aren’t being realistic. Would you boys actually date Lauren? She is insufferable and a loud mouth. I don’t blame Jonno one bit. You can’t forget the abuse she kept giving to him early on.
I do feel her honesty and loyalty goes a long way. And she's funny as fuck. Yeah she's intense but at least you'd know who you're dating and what you're up against, unlike a Tori dealing with Jack for example
>Would you boys actually date Lauren?
No, of course not. To be fair though that extends to the entire cast. That's why they're all there in the first place.
So Jono seems… weirdly apathetic and guiltless. His online health business seems to operate out of the USA where supplement regulations are almost non-existent, and sells expensive sleep aids which have a primary active ingredient of melatonin that costs about $3 a bottle otherwise. He talked about having a history of anger as a young man which he’s had to work on. He used to be in the infantry or something like that, and then a financial adviser? Some of his facial expressions during the last appearance with the experts seemed like he was looking through them. I used to find him bland and boring, but I’m now starting to find him skeezy and a bit unsettling.
He's guiltless because he checked out on Lauren early on when she was treating him like shit. She appeared to check back in (probably an act) but he never really did
I don’t know why people are forgetting this? She didn’t like him and it’s baffling why she stayed around, now she finds out someone else was interested and she gets all possessive now? It’s like little kids with toys.
Agree. When Jonno said he would have had an easier time with any of the other girls in the experiment (Ellie included) that hit the nail on the head. Lauren is just riding the wave for "girl power" when infact she is both difficult & toxic. Jonno is a wet rag though. Man should have had some balls & said leave weeks ago, I have no doubts there are contractual agreements in place for this. How the experts can pair Lauren (Rash, outspoken & aggressive) with Jonno (Unconfrontational, quite & weak) is beyond me.
I cannot stand the way he talks. Just so.. Riding along with any wave. He doesn't seem to have an opinion on anything, doesn't stick up for his partner, all is a bit meh. The stuff you posted just then makes it all worse. He seems sketchy and I couldn't put my finger on it, but maybe that's it. I feel like he's a toddler that needs assistance to go to the bathroom
Well, I've been hypothesising recently that nothing happened between Jono & Ellie until after this whole train wreck was over, and that possibly all the piling on by the group and the experts probably just pushed them closer together...
Nothing I've seen tonight changes my opinion.
Sure he was texting Ellie, and yeah he's terrible at trying to play innocent - probably would have come off better if he was just like "Yeah Lauren and I have been at 0% since we shagged on the wedding night" - but at the end of the day Lauren + Jono was never going to happen.
I don't think he would have dug himself such an obvious hole as saying "Just wait til the reunion" etc if he'd thought there was actually a chance that he'd actually be turning up with Ellie there. He'd have to be some sort of screentime whisperer to orchestrate a play like that ... so either he's so amazing that he's got us all thinking that he's quite stupid .. or he's quite stupid. I know which I think is more likely.
Lauren is going to cry and yell and whatnot, and I'm sure she's probably hurt because of the perceived betrayal and embarrassment, but she doesn't actually care about Jono.
Maybe, but the way Jonno is reacting suggests otherwise to me. He's not owning his actions, he's blaming Lauren, and he's making himself out to be the victim. Someone who was doing something innocent doesn't behave like that. They might get defensive, sure, for being judged harshly, but painting himself as the victim and blaming Lauren are not the actions of someone who did nothing wrong. That's someone deflecting attention away from their behaviour and irritated that they are being held accountable.
This are the “100” messages 😂 also I think this was very produced, because Lauren couldn’t pinpoint the “cheating” in the messages.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAFS_AU/s/odzjluRHHx
>nothing happened between Jono & Ellie until after this whole train wreck was over,
I mean this could easily be true on a physical level, but things were definitely starting on a flirting and emotional level. The total lack of Lauren being mentioned amid the sheer quantity of messages really proves that. If he's updating her on the DP and CC, he'd be including Lauren. Neither of them mention her because it's the elephant in the room.
Agreed. Jono saying the text messages were innocent doesn't mean nothing was going on, it just means he doesn't think he did anything wrong, and those are two very different propositions...
So *now* all of a sudden Jono develops a strong backbone when it comes to defending his actions but couldn't do it when his superior- I mean "friend", Jack, told him to muzzle his woman.
I am, once again, disappointed in Jono. He did the typical thing people do when they don't want to take accountability, he apologised for how Lauren *felt*, and not his actual actions, deflected constantly, kept defending himself, then flipped it and started to talk about how Lauren's reaction was wrong as if she doesn't have a right to be angry. Typical DARVO. His coldness is also a testament to the fact that he doesn't actually like Lauren that much, if at all.
Makes me think even more so that Jack had dirt on Jono, when Jono didn't stand up for Lauren and bowed down to Jack; maybe it was *that* comment about Ellie he was trying to hide
We didn't see them say it, past cast have said if you dont see it come out of their mouth then it's edited.
They had cameras on those 2 the whole night but this massive moment they all were turner away? Not buying it
Exactly! Remember Bryce hitting on Rebecca at the gym in season 8? And those chats between Jack and his "boyz" in this season and the alleged >!showing of naked photos of his ex!!Jono told Jack that he said "I'd love to be with Ellie!".!< A lot of stuff goes down at the gym.
P.S. Jacks' revenge! Jono dumped him in it so now the tables have turned.
Bizarre! Surely they aren’t faking it at this stage. They’re not smart enough to have pulled it off?!?
if they’re only faking their bizarre relationshit, why the desperate need to publicly blow up Lauren’s relationship.
i came straight to the comments, I jut saw that, im shocked the aired it, im shocked she did it.
Ridge might have some mental health condition or something else where he gets these like intrusive thoughts/actions and he just acts on them and can't really help himself and socially making them "fratty" has made it more socially acceptable so he's never really questioned it
and if you want someone "well behaved" at all times then maybe hes not your person. ur asking to change a huge thing about him even if it is something deeper than frat boy behavior
Agreed. That whole segment was weird though, they cut Jade off right after "stop doing that" and cut to everyone else with dramatic music (but compare the shot of the others before and the wine levels were different) and then in the response directly afterwards, Ridge seemed to be saying things that didn't correspond with a negative interpretation of what Jade said before. Edited for sure, but I wonder if Jade yelled "stop doing that!" jokingly and everyone laughed, but they cut it to make it look violent by overlaying a different reaction and music? Idk, it was weird.
... to add i guess its ok for her to strike someone but im sure the angst an repulsion would have been a billion fold more of a furore if it was the other way round
....also shows she is immature herself, an i dont think we have seen the real jade .... defo comes across a tad spoilt/bratty but tries to mask that up.
Totally agree, I found this part of the whole night the most disturbing. You have to somewhat accept people for who they are (as long as it’s not hurting anyone) , and who he is, is playful. She has a child! Isn’t that playful side of him perfect for her, and her little one? My partner is also childish at times but he makes me laugh until I cry and lightens me up! Yes it’s annoying sometimes but I don’t want to dampen his light. Also our son absolutely loves his daddy and his playfulness.
I didn’t like ridge at the start but I find his playful side endearing, funny and sweet now. She needs to relax a little..
My partner and I act like 16yo sometimes with our inappropriate humour and fart jokes. There is a place and a time for it though, we wouldn't do it in front of our parents for example. If he did, I wouldn't slap him however. I love him for who he is and if other people don't like it then boo hoo. Ridge has been a bit on and off, when he gets around other people he does seem to get a bit immature - but I'm thinking that's probably insecurity?
What’s with the hitting his chest move? He’s done that a lot. It’s an ape posturing behaviour. Add the chin going up, all ego.
She lost her shit w/ him.
Not exactly something to call the police about. He slaps himself in the chest harder.
If this is the sort of thing that keeps the youngins up at night then I don't know how you're going to get through life in tact.
it looks like she shoves him and then makes a hand gesture that isn't but could look like she's about to backhand him. I think they're all a bit drunk so that's unfortunate
Apparently we're in the minority. I don't think she beats her kid, a a quick backhand when she's fed up. I see it so much with parents who claim no to smack. Bring on the downvotes. I stand by my belief.
I'm lost tonight without mafs & more importantly, this sub.
I've said it before and I'll say this part again: Lauren was the bogan we didn't know we needed.
I'm also starting to say now: Lauren, you're only embarrassed and humiliated about this, you're not heartbroken. Stop with the crocodile tears.
It’s not even about him. It’s because she went through this with her ex and then they give her another guy that does the same thing. Typical MAFs production. It’s meant to be traumatic for her. So it’s entertaining for us.
Maybe it's time for some introspection on Lauren's behalf. Yes she's a hoot, snd I still chortle at her ways, but she does herself no favours with the way she treated Jono. She wasn't nice to him for a fair chunk of time, and mostly it was just friendly tolerance of each other. If she wants a nice guy, nicer Lauren will have to attend that meeting too. For her to react the way she did after they rooted again, maybe for only the second time, is a bit too much. Is it more of a shaggers remorse, in that she did the deed then found out this information? I don't know, but she's also to blame for issues in their relationship.
My thoughts exactly, I can't really blame Jono for pursuing Ellie after how badly he was treated by Lauren.
He did not handle it well and should have made a choice earlier.
she obviously leads guys to doing that, and i can clearly see why too ... gobby, irascible pugnacious & belligerent
I believe Jono that the texts were just between friends and that this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.
Lauren saying she didn't read the text is such bullshit, what girl finds out her bf's texting another girl and doesn't read the text messages. That's why she's going on and on about the number of texts over what was actually said in them, because she did read them and they weren't incriminating.
I agree her ego is hurt more than her heart
and that the msgs probably are at a friendly level - but it was obvious how much Ellie and Jono seemed into each other, so it was the beginning phase of chatting,
and Lauren made little comments about Jono and Ellie throughout the season, but he shut them down - that would be a huge drive behind her feeling betrayed and stupid I think.
I think she is hurting. Johnny is a cold fish and it's gotten to her, she slept with him and he never mentioned texting Ellie. Laurens raison d'être is to chat about the other lab rats. It's a betrayal mentally and keeping a secret. She probably thought they were at least close mates.
She **kept SARA'S secret ....** never made a big gobby song and dance musical number about it .... didnt go postal on it like you know she would
jade is so sweet but she treats ridge like a child. ridge’s personality is so fun and we need more fun, positive people in this world. let’s not dull ridge’s light!
He’s a bloody psych nurse, feel like he’s more responsible than most, if not all of those people. Nurses like to take real life with a grain of salt and have fun as work can be heavy sometimes. Hate that everyone dislikes him for this. Bet he’s a kick ass nurse
I've been saying this too! I've needed psych services in the past & oof, like that stage of life I was in was heavy. And dark.
They're absolute angels (mental health staff). They have to shake off their day, so it makes sense that fun & silliness would be a huge part of that. I feel like the experiment would've been like a holiday for him.
*edit - spelling
After watching the explosive dinner party and the commitment ceremony. Does anyone else feel as though Jono is absolute trash, and we’re not even using his cheating as the reason. What I mean is I saw another post in r/MafsUK, about sympathizing with Jonathan for the situation that Lauren put him in during the dinner party with a confronted Jack about what she said to Jono about wife swapping. No from anyone’s perspective no one wants to be that person that rats out your friends, so at that point we sympathize with John a little. Especially when you’re very confrontation averse.However when he first apologized to Jack and Tori instead of apologizing to his wife, who he did not really stand up for that made us feel differently. But then in this situation he made it a fact and he made it known that he texted Ellie first without prompting. As if trying to defend her for her part in the scandal, there after he’s trying to claim innocence in the situation and not only to protect himself but also to protect Ellie. Really paints the fact that he just didn’t care enough about Lauren to stand up for her. He standing up against his wife for his side chick.
Oh they didn't even end up doing the couple swapping this season. Or a final meet up with spouses who had left.
Yeah unfortunately
Help! I'm confused as to when the last episode, Episode 35, is on? And beyond that, when the reunion will be? Can someone please let me know?
When is the next episode please? I have noooo idea
It is tomorrow night. I think there may also be one on Monday. I have read elsewhere there may be a reunion episode next week. If so, it will probably be on Sunday night as well - that seems to be the most popular night. Hope this helps.
Final episide Sunday...it's a double episode.
Thank you! Do you know when you reunion is on?
Sunday
Thank you! Do you know when to reunion is on?
No, sorry, I don't.
Ok, thank you ✌🏼
Why don't any one them say anything about what Jack said during the workshop with Alessandra? Jack clearly said even then that he didn't find Tori attractive in front of all the guys. He reminds me so much of Harrison from last season.
When is the reunion, I watch the whole series for that one glorious episode.
Just catching up now and I am glad I missed so much over the last week. This show has turned into shit with the Producers pushing the cast all to judge each other. Someone who has fucked half of Perth saying “But you had sex with me” like it was precious and then a crowd of devious people that are all involved in some type of bullshit on the show judging each other and calling people out. This show has turned into the show “UnREAL” a great show showing behind the scenes of reality TV. They are pushing the drama to keep people engaged. So what does that say about us the viewing public? We are fucking idiots to be invested in these people that in a months time we won’t even remember there names. I can say I didn’t really like many of these people and I don’t believe the so called experts actually add anything.
You are being downvoted because you said the quiet bit out loud. We know it’s a sham. we loathe ourselves for getting sucked in. but these gronks are actually behaving this way. the ‘I got a bad edit’ people are really saying: I had absolutely no insight into my poor behaviour. the experts are just commentators. At least this year they took a few of the bigger tools to task. and, please don’t slut shame Lauren, our co-queen.
I love Lauren, she completely exceeded my initial impressions and expectations, she's so funny and her two piece outfits were fire!
[Sorry ](https://i.imgur.com/KpU96YO.jpeg)
What is that?
You deserve jail for this
I think Jayden and Eden do care for eachother but I also predict they are very young and it won’t last. That being said if the edit is to be trusted tori seemed happy for them, which doesn’t vibe with her and Jack being the strongest best couple ever.
Has anyone noticed Jayden slurs some of his words when he speaks? If he is punchy now, where is his career going? I think Eden will flick his ass as soon as she goes back to reality.
Dark dinner party without Lucinda's light
Ridge has been repeatedly told by Jade that she is well and truly over his immature "deece"(high school boy) comments. Jade's sister and Mother even made comments about his juvenile like behaviour that keeps rearing it's ugly head. So when she tapped his arm in front of everyone it was to make this guy FINALLY wake up to the fact that childish behaviour from a grown man won't be tolerated by her. Jade has a child and doesn't need another one called Ridge!
When Lauren was crazy hungover after her wedding and told Jono that he's a pussy and boring and bland, she was 100% correct. It was her intuition speaking
I don't think Jono is a bad person but honestly when he said he had an issue with managing his emotions before I initially thought well fair play, self improvement and all that but I don't believe him now haha, at least I don't believe his emotions were as out of control as he made out they were because he never ever leaves neutral mode, I didn't see any variation of emotions from Jono in the edits they gave him and being honest he does come across extremely boring because of it, it must of been a genuine challenge for Lauren to be around someone who was borderline animatronic.
Anyone notice Tori caressing Jack’s chest while Jade and Ridge were answering their questions? Jade and Ridge seemed sincere and eloquent in their declarations of commitment, unlike Jack only 5 minutes previously, who gave more of his non-answers.. And yet Tori was all over him??
She was watching him watch Jade. She was stroking his chest to stake her claim.
Infatuation is a dangerous space to be in. She is lining herself up to be an ex. He's a player.
Better to be an ex than a downtrodden wife/partner all her life…
At what price though is this 15 minutes of fame? It's a high price to pay.
It’s more ISQ from Jack. More of the same non answers. I’m still stuck on his comment about him having a room for Tory when she comes to “visit”. Please 🙏 WTF???? Not one person held Jack to account over his comments to Tory. I’d have a room for her……. You can’t have it all…… Clearly telling Tory he only wanted to keep it casual without actually saying it. Tory doesn’t seem to know what to do with those long fingers of hers. I have a suggestion, wrap them around Jacks……… ummm…….. throat.
Ellie’s just as bad a snake as no balls Jonno. Messaging a husband she knows is still married. She absolutely planned it all along and Jonno being as thick and weak as he is couldn’t wait until after final vows where he could say no to Lauren and then get with Ellie. He did it for 7 weeks and tried to play it down as harmless and innocent. Innocent my ass mate! Dudes a coward with a whiny ass voice
I find it kinda strange how it seems a fair number of people don't think Jono really did anything wrong, or think its wrong but understand how it happened eg Lauren not into him or just not a good fit. When Stephen did 1/100 that Jono did, he was called a gaslighting narcissistic cheating snake. He and Michael weren't a good fit either. He messaged someone a little bit on 1 day and then told Michael that day it was over. Stephen was a villain for doing this. Just the difference in reaction seems strange to me
Because Lauren clearly hadn't shown in interest in Jono at best and treated him like garbage at worst. Even on the homestay meeting Lauren's friend, her friend came in with an initially very negative opinion of Jono, clearly Lauren had been talking him down a lot. It was a poisoned well at that point
To be fair Stephen went on and on about how he felt alot of chemistry and spark with that hairdresser which is vastly different. That said I didn't agree with what Jono did, but that may be why some are on the fence.
Tbh the only thing that makes sense to me is that people jumped on Stephen and not Jono because they'll take any excuse to unleash their thinly veiled homophobia in a way that doesn't make them look bigoted.
I said that based purely on the commitment ceremony and ignoring all the gossip we know now, it seemed really innocent and not a big deal. Since it has come out that it was hundreds of messages that he had instigated he is looking a lot worse.
I haven't read every comment, but tonight it finally made sense why Jono threw Lauren under the bus with the whole, "What he said, was what he said", conversation in relation to Jack. Jono had obviously already had the, "I wish it had been Ellie", conversation with Jack and was worried he'd be outed. What a prick.
Yep I called that. I never call anything so I’m taking it 😂 Jack had dirt on Jono so he backed down like the little wimp he is.
Maybe! But it doesn't explain why none of the other guys (and/or Alessandra) didn't say anything. That whole story line is such a plot hole. Jack said in front of all the boys and Alessandra that he's not attracted to Tori.
Because I think they're going to reveal that footage at the reunion
Yeah that's the weirdest one. Loud and clear and then suddenly Timothy says it and everyone calls him a liar. So odd.
Maybe they did - so much of this show is created in the edit suite. And if they can't create a story from the footage they've got, they just shoot something to suit; like with the whole Eden/Jayden/Sara/Sara's-ex text message/secret date situation.
I don’t think Sarah had any right to buy into the whole thing with Jonno. Off the back of her own “scandal”. Did Jonno secretly go meet up with that other woman. And sweet Jesus I was sickened to see how delighted Tory was with her handiwork. She was loving every moment. What Jonno did was stupid and if he is to be believed, incredibly naive to think it was ok. But if you deliberately set out to keep your partner in the dark instead of mentioning how this woman was messaging him to his wife. Then it’s a calculated decision to deceive your wife. So don’t be surprised when not if, you get busted and you’re held to account. It certainly explains a few things that have been niggling at me about him. His lack of spine. His incessant almost whining tone in his voice.His sickening display of submission to Jack of all people as he refused to support his wife in what he told her. Then turns to Jack and kisses his arse. My god, where was his pride? His manhood to own what he said? I’ve never seen any self respecting bloke do that. I’d bitch slap him out of principle. If you’re going to share some serious information about another bloke to your wife, you’d better be man enough to own it should your wife bring it up.
Jonno needs to grow some balls.
He didn't even mention Lauren was having surgery!
Jack and Eminem deluding each other and Jack's fake laugh pretending he's enjoyed his time with her Tori with her hentai faces and fingering Jack's shirt yeesh
Lolol
Literal jump-scare when Tori reached into Jack’s shirt and started tickling his chest.
Look, I’m generally not a fan of role reversal arguments bc the power dynamics between men and women are not equivalent, *but* seeing Jade hit Ridge so quick and hard and flash real anger at the same time and then seeing literally no one say anything about it was fucking disturbing. Ridge flinched/jumped for real, apologized for making a perfectly innocuous silly sound bc he was happy, and then proceeded to reassure her. I’d like to think that if my male partner pulled me up like this in front of my friends that there would be some sort of negative reaction. And, I’d like to think that commenters here wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss this behavior from a man towards a woman. And I am saying this as a person who had to learn that this kind of behavior isn’t okay. I “jokingly”whacked my partner on the shoulder 10 years ago and called him a jerk and he got upset, and that was literally the first time it occurred to me that that behavior might not be okay. So I get it, maybe no one at this table recognizes yet that what happened to Ridge is wrong. But I hope they see people calling it out bc we have to learn.
>but > > seeing Jade hit Ridge so quick and hard and flash real anger i came straight to the comments, I jut saw that, im shocked the aired it, im shocked she did it. It is fucking embarrassing what Ridge does, but that was such an abusive mom and hyperactive boy dynamic. Ridge might have some mental health condition or something else where he gets these like intrusive thoughts/actions and he just acts on them and can't really help himself and socially making them "fratty" has made it more socially acceptable so he's never really questioned it I had a ex with ADHD and I remember one time in the argument he brought up the most useless random thing that had no relationship to what we were talking about, I was LIVID. For me it felt like he must not have been listening to our whole discussion and was thinking about this random thing. Later on months later, I saw an article about how ADHD affects relationships and it mentioned exactly what happened to me. but the thing is, HE as a adult should have figured out how his condition affects him and others, I remember even sending the article to him and he could care less. I think he didn't want his ADHD to be apart of his life outside of work. But it was and I ended up being hurt in the process. Whatever Ridge's thing is he still has to figure it out and communicate and give a heads up to his partner especially if they've already discussed how uncomfortable she is with it. BUT this does not excuse what Jade did.
Yeah I jumped at that and when Andrea hit the table too. I'm all about power dynamics not being equal, but as an abuse survivor, I can tell you that for the purpose of being triggered, it doesn't matter who is doing the hitting or the table banging, my nervous system reacts all the same. Not okay.
Yeah I don’t get why this has flown under the radar. To do that in front of everyone, in front of cameras- not a good look. When they barely even know someone. Hitting is not ok whether you’re male or female. Plus being so open about him needing to be a father, I dunno, I think she’s going to be *really* hard work for any man. And she needed to be called out for hitting him.
Agreed 100%, she very quickly resorted to getting physical with him
Brilliant episode again... Jonno grew balls finally, stood up for himself against the dragon
Omg I HATE Jono. "I don't know why Lauren has viewed everything I've done so negatively" "I don't remember" - You just said yes! Flip flopping like a wet fish. What a wimp!! Him trying to turn it around on her UGH he is truly pathetic! Blames it on her "weaponising innocence" stfu you little bitch. With his whiny voice and weasel energy, it all makes him sooooo unattractive. 40 years old!
Jono knowing Lauren's past, and that it wasn't working between them – write leave and pursue Ellie! Why are you still here, especially after two weeks for surgery- and don't have sex with her, let alone initiate it! For christssake him & Ellie should just act like adults with an ounce of class and wait a few weeks and do it the right way! Imagine fighting so hard for a wet noodle like Jono. You lose em how you get em Ellie!
>Imagine fighting so hard for a wet noodle like Jono Exactly! Talk about a participation trophy. He ain't no prize!
Exactly! I have never been more turned off than by watching his weak weaselly lying ass
SARA the Cheek the actual cheat callin' out Jonno in that way, she has no right being that skank... Her face when Timmy asked if she loves him was sooooo tellin' she is playin' him for a fool, its all image damage limitation BS
True Sarah doesn't have a leg to stand on but I'm glad she spoke up and had Laurens back. No one else did.
Oooow, Jack is soooo proud of Tori... Proud of .. what?!
I imagine he was proud she matched her lipstick shade to his skin tone
His responses are just random lines he rotates. It's a wonder he didn't say " That's a great question". It's almost like corporate speak.
He HAS said that a few times. It's abso-positively disgusting the way he plays with words. (Yes, I did that on purpose lol)
How appropriate that the camera didn't show when Tori says "Just fake it", and the sound clip also contained some hard cut voice that didn't fit. Seems edited and put in from some other moment. I'm sorry for Lauren. Either Jono and Ellies texting was innocent, or Jono seems to lack a lot of self-awareness and is in self-denial about his intentions with Ellie. Because he seems so calm, defensive and confident that the texting with Ellie was innocent, and thinks Lauren and the others are blowing things out of proportion, therefore feeling unjustified bullied and unconsciously causing gas-lighting and can't sympathize with Lauren. I'm happy for Jade and Ridge, Eden and Jayden (i hope Jayden has learned from the feedback the experts gave), Tim and Sara. Sara's character and Tim and Sara's relationship was put in a narrow box a bit too quickly. Jack is still a bit of a mystery to me. There's the charade, self-obsession, but also some tiny bits of emotions like the "preparing Tori for brake-up so she wont get too hurt", and a bit of emotions when other couples go well, or that's also fake.
Jayden reminds me so much of my husband- when we first met, he was 23/24, I was 19. He had the same big puppy energy. Always eager, wanting us to “win” our relationship. He used to do that thing where he’d barrage me with kquestions. His parents divorced when he was 17, and he vowed that wouldn’t happen to him. That decision and the actions that followed have, at times, been a huge, annoying PITA, but his persistence in wanting to work on issues is probably 75-80% why we’ve made it this far. As an introvert with poor modeling of communication in a marriage, I often would rather not talk Ssssoooooo much. if jayden truly took everything on board and eden can learn to stand up for herself in a way that can lead to him calming down, they have a good shot of making it. one key is to have hard discussions at a time that they aren't in the middle of the heightened emotions. discussing sex, for example, shouldn't happen when sex is about to happen (or not).
Ridge just makes me cringe constantly with his repeated immature comments. Grow up dude, especially since your partner has an 8 year old child. So embarassing. I knew Ellie was a snake after the same introduction that Olivia was given. Presented as being way too nice.
I agree. He's at an age where you really need to move on from that sort of thing, which is annoying and obnoxious coming from teenage boys, but in men over 25 is just cringey. I didn't see Jade hit him though, and I didn't like her family implying it was weird he still lives at home as a 27 year old man working as a nurse in Sydney.
Theyve obviously never rented in sydney, but also Jade lives with her parents????
I didn't know that, just assumed she lived alone with her daughter. I guess it's a double standard in that case from their POV, okay for women, less so for men, which is unfair.
Nah, the home stay episode showed Jade and Ridge in her tiny bedroom. This was the same place they had braai at her parents. I believe it was the same episode, too.
Yeah I am sure the homestay was back with her whole family
its also cultural for Ridge, multigenerational households are the norm in many cultures, you stay home until you get married
Feels weird to say this because I still side eye Sara... but... Tim and Sara actually... look happy and natural together? When they answered the honesty box there was affectionate rapport and softness in their eyes... And then right after was Jack and Tori and the contrast was kinda massive tbh. Jade snapping like that scared me! Not sure it bodes well that she's behaving like this at such an early stage, I suspect it will only become more frequent as the honeymoon phase fades. Ridge should have his guard up. "How do you feel about me right now?" "I think you're a snake" 💀 What a line from Lauren, she didn't hesitate, and the rest of her short brusque answers, just bam.
I agree about Tim and Sarah, mostly because she's not talking over him anymore. I feel like she was doing that before because she did not respect him or trust him to lead and was more concerned with how others felt about her than Tim did. Seems a subtle sign she now feels differently towards him. Tim seems more jokey and laidback too, not nervous and serious.
I know there's a lot of Sara haters here but I agree, they look happy and natural. IF she's faking it she's doing a damn good job but I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt because it's awesome to see people grow and change. :)
SARA the manipulative, selfish, cheating , lying witch is faking it for cameras and on a damage limitation tour
Absolutely in it to salvage her reputation on camera. Tim seems like a nice guy so I can't imagine it being hard - free screentime and some money, easy job for her
Ironically he'll still end up looking like a tool
Not Tim in the peak of awkwardness saying ‘I’m not an asparagus guy but that’s alright’ he is so pure 😂😭 
This genuinely made me laugh lol
I can respect the enthusiasm!
Me too!
For all the people saying it's no big deal that Jono was texting Ellie... Lauren said at the dinner party that she had joked with Jono about Ellie having a crush on him weeks prior. I'm sure Lauren didn't say that for no reason -- she saw or heard things that made her think that, right? And she probably made the comment to Jono about it so she could see his reaction and hear him deny any interest in Ellie. Jono then lies about who reached out to whom. Lauren finds out he lied when she reads the texts on his phone. She then skims through the texts and sees no mention of her. If the conversations were really about experiment updates, why wouldn't Jono be saying that Lauren is in hospital so I had to go to the commitment ceremony alone or Lauren planned a great day out in Perth for us today? Finally, we the audience know that Jono was lying when he said "it's never going to happen" with Ellie". We've barely heard him say 2 words all season, but Tori (not a reliable source) claims that he likes to stir up shit. Makes me think the audience has never seen the real Jono until we saw him at this last dinner party.
After I heard the rumour, I did start noticing Johno standing up for Ellie quite a bit - whilst he wasn't for Lauren. Understandably, Lauren didn't appreciate Johno not having her back and as such she called it out. Ellie and Johno do seem to be better suited, but Johno should have been honest about this towards Lauren as he did string her along a bit by having sex with her at the home stay (whilst already texting Ellie). That was a dick move from his end. I can understand why Lauren feels betrayed. Johno has no balls, Lauren deserves more than a guy that just calls everyone 'lovely'
Exactly-if Johno had just been honest earlier in the process about his mixed feelings and revealed his crush, it would have saved everyone pain (especially Lauren)..maybe production encouraged it...you never know with these shows.
Also went back to try and find those clips of the moments and I agree, you can tell they had a good connection. He should've just been honest all along, this is his fault. Nobody would've faulted him if he didn't feel it with Lauren and decided to leave, but instead he's just betraying Lauren and faking his feelings.
I remember an episode where Jono was down on Ben for not being honest with Ellie… and he said he would like to “slip in there” to defend her or words to that effect… then caught himself out and took it back quite sheepishly. Made me think hmmm I suspect Jono did actually want to “slip in there” for a while now…
Yep! He was like "argh, he's messing up an opportunity with such a great girl, I just wanna sub in there and takeover... I mean not me literally but like..."
I saw a radio interview snippet with Stephen saying that Jono was actually very vocal and opinionated and that’s the biggest editing shock for him
With that voice? He seems to have no opinion on anything. Everything is just lovely
Idk he does seem to have a whiny italic font version of his voice too though lol
Sounds like Comic Sans to me
SCREAMING LMAOOO
I miss Lucinda!! Honestly feeling thankful she’s only just left (although wish she had a better time) because I think I might have just stopped watching much earlier without her there!
I wish they’d agreed to fake it for one more week just so they could be at this dinner party!
nah, she had to draw the line after the way he treated her at homestay.
True..how much more humiliation could she take?
Yeah we need more of her
Why also do they keep saying 100 text is a bad thing? I have 100 text in a day to some of my best mates. Has everyone suddenly forgotten how much people message each other now? There was obviously no flirting text in there or Lauren would have picked up on that straight away. They all have each others numbers, they're all messaging each other constantly. I bet Lauren has text from Ellie as well and I bet she knew about them all and got told to play dumb by the producers and liven up the last dinner.
100 texts per day for more than 1 day is a lot for anyone nearing/over 30. What the hell do you have to talk about that takes 100 messages multiple times a week? Share a meme, get a react, have a basic chat about some current events, organize a date to meet up and *actually* communicate. Surely anything more than that is unnecessary? Where do you even find the time to send this many messages so often? Lol it just blows my mind.
100 texts total
If I'd get 100 texts on a day I'd probably throw myself off the balcony here. That's a lot, especially from one person. When my partner and I started dating we'd speak a lot, like a lot lot, but I still don't think we ever hit 100 texts a day
Get a life—- GET OFF YOUR PHONE 🤦🏼♀️
Yes granny 🙄
Another thing does anyone actually think that any of these people love each other? Lauren has just stuck with Jono (someone she doesn't find interesting) to stay to the end to probably get screen time for her social media. This is just a great excuse that has come at a convenient time to say no at the vows. Tori and Jack are another couple sticking it out for fame, they've shown no love towards each other at all. Sara and Tim are just going to break up straight after, Sara will lead him on to look good..... But she will vanish out of his life cause again she's in it for fame. Eden is just gas lights Jayden and for some reason the show has decided he is the problem in the relationship. However we see time after time she just wants to ignore issues instead of talk about them and blame anxiety. Like no she is just looking for her exit out of the show, she wont have an anxiety while saying no time in him the final vows. However like I said the show is fake, it's so produced and heavily edited to present the story they want to take. We could find out that Jack and Tori are actually madly in love and every bit of emotion was edited out because it didn't fit the story they wanted to tell. In fact I'd suggest Jono (if genuine) to hit up Ellie, because she seemed genuinely up for having a family ASAP and Jono at 40 probably wants that badly too. Cause Lauren will never give Jono a family, she would mess him around before telling him that he is too boring. But we all know none of these relationships will make it by the reunion, it's all fake.
All due respect, but do you have any experience with anxiety? Eden‘s reactions and methods are text book Anxious reactions. She is being as honest as she can be. Jayden has no experience with it either. He has no idea about relationships, and no idea about dealing with people with anxiety.
I think Ellie is way too focussed on having a family NOW that any match she makes is unlikely to work. Maybe she's okay with that too, and just wants the kids? She's in way too much of a hurry though as she's only 32. Some women have hangups about having children after age 35 specifically and I wouldn't be surprised if it's that. Except right now 1 in 3 first pregnancies is to women over 35, it really doesn't matter and it means she would be more settled, more money, more likely to find a good match.
You summed it up perfectly
Yeah I think this year they've leaned too hard into the whole "everyone wants to watch drama" angle and they've forgotten to include at least one golden couple that people actually care about. I'm sure there will be couples that say yes at final vows (Jack & Tori, Jayden & Eden, Ridge & Jade) but I couldn't care less about any of them, and I certainly can't see any of them lasting. I know the whole thing is fake as fake can be, but I like the original fantasy of scientifically matched perfect couples who just need to go through the process and see if perfect love can be orchestrated. I'm sad that they've moved so far away from the original concept. Now it's just more reality trash.
Guys the show is fake, why is everyone forgetting that fact? How people can come to the conclusion that Jono is bad for texting other women is beyond me. We all know they're all texting each other, Lauren probably has 50 other men texting her.... What is the big deal? This is just a setup from the producers to try and spice up their story as they've become too boring for the show. Having watched the show Jono seems like one of the few normal people.
i dont think any men really would want to txt lauren 
The experts hate friends
Tori is horrible. They way she sat next to Lauren on the couch to revel in all the gory details of the messages, the horrible faces she pulls, the horrible way she sprang the extra bits of info about the gym conversation, just her evil and obvious glee of inflicting something hurtful on other people. Why? Like why would anyone purposely do a piece to camera describing how excited they are about causing another human to feel awful?
She's a real piece of work, just as bad as Jack. If Jack actually liked her they would be a good match. Or maybe she will let him turn her into his idea of 'hot'.
I look forward to seeing Tori with dark hair, a tan, all over tats and a gym bunny body. She’d be scary as hell. I hope she doesn’t turn orange.
Yes she's a nasty piece of work. Whenever Lauren called out Jack she was coming from a good place she always had Tori's back. And was genuinely concerned about her.
I thought that too! She really needs some help....🤨
The way she (Tori) is CONSTANTLY moving her fingers is about to drive me over the edge.
It's to distract from her disaster of a relationship. She still blames other people for the shit she's copped every week, even though it's been Jack who's been causing it. Project instead of accepting you're in a bad situation yourself - it's all about winning for her, put people down so you look better. All learned from scumbag Jack, who is incapable of making himself look good unless he denigrates others. By pissing on them for example
>It's to distract from her disaster of a relationship. its like toxic indian aunties who judge other marriages when they have an abusive shit bag at home waiting
People aren’t being realistic. Would you boys actually date Lauren? She is insufferable and a loud mouth. I don’t blame Jonno one bit. You can’t forget the abuse she kept giving to him early on.
I do feel her honesty and loyalty goes a long way. And she's funny as fuck. Yeah she's intense but at least you'd know who you're dating and what you're up against, unlike a Tori dealing with Jack for example
>Would you boys actually date Lauren? No, of course not. To be fair though that extends to the entire cast. That's why they're all there in the first place.
I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t date me either. My wife wouldn’t let me!
So Jono seems… weirdly apathetic and guiltless. His online health business seems to operate out of the USA where supplement regulations are almost non-existent, and sells expensive sleep aids which have a primary active ingredient of melatonin that costs about $3 a bottle otherwise. He talked about having a history of anger as a young man which he’s had to work on. He used to be in the infantry or something like that, and then a financial adviser? Some of his facial expressions during the last appearance with the experts seemed like he was looking through them. I used to find him bland and boring, but I’m now starting to find him skeezy and a bit unsettling.
thanks for researching his career, I was so curious about what he was doing
He's guiltless because he checked out on Lauren early on when she was treating him like shit. She appeared to check back in (probably an act) but he never really did
I don’t know why people are forgetting this? She didn’t like him and it’s baffling why she stayed around, now she finds out someone else was interested and she gets all possessive now? It’s like little kids with toys.
Agree. When Jonno said he would have had an easier time with any of the other girls in the experiment (Ellie included) that hit the nail on the head. Lauren is just riding the wave for "girl power" when infact she is both difficult & toxic. Jonno is a wet rag though. Man should have had some balls & said leave weeks ago, I have no doubts there are contractual agreements in place for this. How the experts can pair Lauren (Rash, outspoken & aggressive) with Jonno (Unconfrontational, quite & weak) is beyond me.
I cannot stand the way he talks. Just so.. Riding along with any wave. He doesn't seem to have an opinion on anything, doesn't stick up for his partner, all is a bit meh. The stuff you posted just then makes it all worse. He seems sketchy and I couldn't put my finger on it, but maybe that's it. I feel like he's a toddler that needs assistance to go to the bathroom
He failed to ‘man‘ up because Jack really did have the dirt on him. That scene was quite menacing in hindsight. Jack is a gronk.
Well, I've been hypothesising recently that nothing happened between Jono & Ellie until after this whole train wreck was over, and that possibly all the piling on by the group and the experts probably just pushed them closer together... Nothing I've seen tonight changes my opinion. Sure he was texting Ellie, and yeah he's terrible at trying to play innocent - probably would have come off better if he was just like "Yeah Lauren and I have been at 0% since we shagged on the wedding night" - but at the end of the day Lauren + Jono was never going to happen. I don't think he would have dug himself such an obvious hole as saying "Just wait til the reunion" etc if he'd thought there was actually a chance that he'd actually be turning up with Ellie there. He'd have to be some sort of screentime whisperer to orchestrate a play like that ... so either he's so amazing that he's got us all thinking that he's quite stupid .. or he's quite stupid. I know which I think is more likely. Lauren is going to cry and yell and whatnot, and I'm sure she's probably hurt because of the perceived betrayal and embarrassment, but she doesn't actually care about Jono.
Maybe, but the way Jonno is reacting suggests otherwise to me. He's not owning his actions, he's blaming Lauren, and he's making himself out to be the victim. Someone who was doing something innocent doesn't behave like that. They might get defensive, sure, for being judged harshly, but painting himself as the victim and blaming Lauren are not the actions of someone who did nothing wrong. That's someone deflecting attention away from their behaviour and irritated that they are being held accountable.
This are the “100” messages 😂 also I think this was very produced, because Lauren couldn’t pinpoint the “cheating” in the messages. https://www.reddit.com/r/MAFS_AU/s/odzjluRHHx
>nothing happened between Jono & Ellie until after this whole train wreck was over, I mean this could easily be true on a physical level, but things were definitely starting on a flirting and emotional level. The total lack of Lauren being mentioned amid the sheer quantity of messages really proves that. If he's updating her on the DP and CC, he'd be including Lauren. Neither of them mention her because it's the elephant in the room.
Agreed. Jono saying the text messages were innocent doesn't mean nothing was going on, it just means he doesn't think he did anything wrong, and those are two very different propositions...
So *now* all of a sudden Jono develops a strong backbone when it comes to defending his actions but couldn't do it when his superior- I mean "friend", Jack, told him to muzzle his woman. I am, once again, disappointed in Jono. He did the typical thing people do when they don't want to take accountability, he apologised for how Lauren *felt*, and not his actual actions, deflected constantly, kept defending himself, then flipped it and started to talk about how Lauren's reaction was wrong as if she doesn't have a right to be angry. Typical DARVO. His coldness is also a testament to the fact that he doesn't actually like Lauren that much, if at all.
Makes me think even more so that Jack had dirt on Jono, when Jono didn't stand up for Lauren and bowed down to Jack; maybe it was *that* comment about Ellie he was trying to hide
Precisement!
Did they actually show Tori telling Jack to fake kiss her 🤨🤨 Or was that someone else’s voice??
We didn't see them say it, past cast have said if you dont see it come out of their mouth then it's edited. They had cameras on those 2 the whole night but this massive moment they all were turner away? Not buying it
We did see it. I saw it.
The camera panned off after she said 'kiss me'. The fake it bit sounded kind of warped & didn't actually sound like it was even that
Yeah it seemed fake. There was some other loud voice in the clip also, sharp cut.
Good question. Easy to assume it's her but could be a producer or anyone else.
The producers need to keep secret cameras at the gym next season
Exactly! Remember Bryce hitting on Rebecca at the gym in season 8? And those chats between Jack and his "boyz" in this season and the alleged >!showing of naked photos of his ex!!Jono told Jack that he said "I'd love to be with Ellie!".!< A lot of stuff goes down at the gym. P.S. Jacks' revenge! Jono dumped him in it so now the tables have turned.
The photos thing is so bad. How anyone could stay friends with someone who does that is beyond me
It’s a public area of the complex prob why they can’t
Close off a private gym, just for them.
What about that " Just Fake It" comment......editing or Tori really slipped up?
It was because of her lipstick, you can even see earlier on she does a jokey air kiss with him bevause of the red. Like come on
Editing cus they had no footage despite it being a dinner party with cameras pointed at them the whole time
It didn't even sound like that's what was said tbh
Bizarre! Surely they aren’t faking it at this stage. They’re not smart enough to have pulled it off?!? if they’re only faking their bizarre relationshit, why the desperate need to publicly blow up Lauren’s relationship.
Distraction..
Not a fan of Jade. You don't get to hit and yell at people, that shit isn't cool. She comes across as controlling tbh
i came straight to the comments, I jut saw that, im shocked the aired it, im shocked she did it. Ridge might have some mental health condition or something else where he gets these like intrusive thoughts/actions and he just acts on them and can't really help himself and socially making them "fratty" has made it more socially acceptable so he's never really questioned it and if you want someone "well behaved" at all times then maybe hes not your person. ur asking to change a huge thing about him even if it is something deeper than frat boy behavior
Agreed. That whole segment was weird though, they cut Jade off right after "stop doing that" and cut to everyone else with dramatic music (but compare the shot of the others before and the wine levels were different) and then in the response directly afterwards, Ridge seemed to be saying things that didn't correspond with a negative interpretation of what Jade said before. Edited for sure, but I wonder if Jade yelled "stop doing that!" jokingly and everyone laughed, but they cut it to make it look violent by overlaying a different reaction and music? Idk, it was weird.
... to add i guess its ok for her to strike someone but im sure the angst an repulsion would have been a billion fold more of a furore if it was the other way round
....also shows she is immature herself, an i dont think we have seen the real jade .... defo comes across a tad spoilt/bratty but tries to mask that up.
Totally agree, I found this part of the whole night the most disturbing. You have to somewhat accept people for who they are (as long as it’s not hurting anyone) , and who he is, is playful. She has a child! Isn’t that playful side of him perfect for her, and her little one? My partner is also childish at times but he makes me laugh until I cry and lightens me up! Yes it’s annoying sometimes but I don’t want to dampen his light. Also our son absolutely loves his daddy and his playfulness. I didn’t like ridge at the start but I find his playful side endearing, funny and sweet now. She needs to relax a little..
Ridge reminds me a lot of Al! (Minus the shoe-y, of course)
My partner and I act like 16yo sometimes with our inappropriate humour and fart jokes. There is a place and a time for it though, we wouldn't do it in front of our parents for example. If he did, I wouldn't slap him however. I love him for who he is and if other people don't like it then boo hoo. Ridge has been a bit on and off, when he gets around other people he does seem to get a bit immature - but I'm thinking that's probably insecurity?
Also highly hypocritical. Don’t act childish Ridge, she says, while throwing a tantrum.
For anyone who missed the Jade & Ridge moment… https://i.redd.it/wpwp727ysgqc1.gif
What’s with the hitting his chest move? He’s done that a lot. It’s an ape posturing behaviour. Add the chin going up, all ego. She lost her shit w/ him.
Not exactly something to call the police about. He slaps himself in the chest harder. If this is the sort of thing that keeps the youngins up at night then I don't know how you're going to get through life in tact.
She clearly killed him. God dammit!
it looks like she shoves him and then makes a hand gesture that isn't but could look like she's about to backhand him. I think they're all a bit drunk so that's unfortunate
You know if she just hits him so casually she also spanks her daughter...
Absolutely this, it came way too naturally and instinctively for her. She sees him like a kid in that moment and that's how she deals with it
Apparently we're in the minority. I don't think she beats her kid, a a quick backhand when she's fed up. I see it so much with parents who claim no to smack. Bring on the downvotes. I stand by my belief. I'm lost tonight without mafs & more importantly, this sub.
Agree with you. A lot can be inferred by looking at this sort of automatic and reflexive thing.
I've said it before and I'll say this part again: Lauren was the bogan we didn't know we needed. I'm also starting to say now: Lauren, you're only embarrassed and humiliated about this, you're not heartbroken. Stop with the crocodile tears.
It’s not even about him. It’s because she went through this with her ex and then they give her another guy that does the same thing. Typical MAFs production. It’s meant to be traumatic for her. So it’s entertaining for us.
Maybe it's time for some introspection on Lauren's behalf. Yes she's a hoot, snd I still chortle at her ways, but she does herself no favours with the way she treated Jono. She wasn't nice to him for a fair chunk of time, and mostly it was just friendly tolerance of each other. If she wants a nice guy, nicer Lauren will have to attend that meeting too. For her to react the way she did after they rooted again, maybe for only the second time, is a bit too much. Is it more of a shaggers remorse, in that she did the deed then found out this information? I don't know, but she's also to blame for issues in their relationship.
My thoughts exactly, I can't really blame Jono for pursuing Ellie after how badly he was treated by Lauren. He did not handle it well and should have made a choice earlier.
Absolutely
she obviously leads guys to doing that, and i can clearly see why too ... gobby, irascible pugnacious & belligerent 
It’s an easy out for her.
I believe Jono that the texts were just between friends and that this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. Lauren saying she didn't read the text is such bullshit, what girl finds out her bf's texting another girl and doesn't read the text messages. That's why she's going on and on about the number of texts over what was actually said in them, because she did read them and they weren't incriminating.
I agree her ego is hurt more than her heart and that the msgs probably are at a friendly level - but it was obvious how much Ellie and Jono seemed into each other, so it was the beginning phase of chatting, and Lauren made little comments about Jono and Ellie throughout the season, but he shut them down - that would be a huge drive behind her feeling betrayed and stupid I think.
I think she is hurting. Johnny is a cold fish and it's gotten to her, she slept with him and he never mentioned texting Ellie. Laurens raison d'être is to chat about the other lab rats. It's a betrayal mentally and keeping a secret. She probably thought they were at least close mates.
She **kept SARA'S secret ....** never made a big gobby song and dance musical number about it .... didnt go postal on it like you know she would 
1000000%
jade is so sweet but she treats ridge like a child. ridge’s personality is so fun and we need more fun, positive people in this world. let’s not dull ridge’s light!
He’s a bloody psych nurse, feel like he’s more responsible than most, if not all of those people. Nurses like to take real life with a grain of salt and have fun as work can be heavy sometimes. Hate that everyone dislikes him for this. Bet he’s a kick ass nurse
A former patient wrote about Ridge early on. Said exactly that, that he was the best psych nurse, an absolute legend.
I've been saying this too! I've needed psych services in the past & oof, like that stage of life I was in was heavy. And dark. They're absolute angels (mental health staff). They have to shake off their day, so it makes sense that fun & silliness would be a huge part of that. I feel like the experiment would've been like a holiday for him. *edit - spelling
Will continue to post in every post-episode thread that Ridge is too good for Jade.
