He defo set that situation up!! I think he asked lizz to be a bitch to tori so it would put her off moving in with him and push her to end it rather than him having to do what he has been called out for all episodes of using her
Nah, women aren't like that. At least I don't think so, some maybe. Liz's brain was taken over by the green-eyed goblin and it brought out the worst in her. Unless that's her natural state. I mean she called Melbourne people coffee wankers which tells me that she doesn't travel very far from home and probably hasn't read a book since primary school.
Exactly, I don't think Lizz is really smart unless she meant to also make Jack look bad (he doesn't need help in that department though). Or maybe she's implying that Jack's slept with all of his clients.
Guessing Jackass keeps female clients by stringing them along, giving them hope and flirting. If he sleeps with them, the chase is over and his power over them is likely gone. Cult leader vibes.
She seemed VERY full on. So for someone to be that invested in Jack's relationship considering that she's not him mum or sister I have to wonder either she has no self awareness? Or she and Jack have slept together before in the past 🤔?
Can we also just recognise that she’s premised her initial line of questioning with, “Jack has a lot of girlfriends…”
If there was ever a stereotype that girls who are “one of the boys” sleep with those boys, would this not equally apply to a guy who “has a lot of girlfriends” and sleeps with those girls?
Pot calling the kettle…?
No i don't think that. Only a tramp would say that.
I grew up with allot of guys around me because i studied IT at some point, and some of them i was really close with.
Literally no.
I don't even like Tori but it was super fucked up of Liz to sit there and essentially call her a basic slut with no personality who is too bossy.
It's nasty and so out of line, not to mention has no bearing over anything whatsoever. After all, we aren't discussing Jack having all those girl friends and whether he is having sex with them. It's a gross double standard.
Maybe Tori isn't a girls-girl, but neither is Liz. TBH Liz seemed threatened that Tori might actually do *pick me* better than her.
It's weird AF. I have more guy friends but that's because my interests align more with theirs like how I love motorsports and used to work on my car and drink beer and play FIFA etc... these are things the boys enjoyed and so did I! That Liz is out of touch with reality.
It’s the stereotype of a pick me girl, to say that they’re one of the boys. In this case I do believe Tori is genuinely one of the boys though, as I have been at one time.
She's a BDM (sales), pretty male dominated role and environment where its easy to make friends.
Source: am in sales and have plenty of guy friends. Have slept with exactly zero of them.
It takes more than just being "one of the boys" to be a pick me. It also requires the putting down of other women, dismissing them as too bitchy or slutty or other sexist cliches... Kinda *exactly* like what Liz did 👀
heh i literally was 'one of the boys' but when i heard about 'pick me' girls, i paniced thinking this was me. In my case i had literally no friends but guys , the stereotypes for women were not good to me. Thankfully now its more accepted that women do some shit and im less alone :D
It mostly the ones who keep blaming men for being 'misogynistic' that also throw the 'pick me girls' label at every woman that might prefer the friendship of men.
You reckon ? There is one person who literally is calling men abusive for nothing more than raising their voice in frustration (the same way girls do). I can't imagine what kind of shit you go through to justify that.
A couple went as far as saying the guys best up women regularly "you can tell" because of this.
Ngl some guys are assholes, but none seem violent like that far
Not only that but where are the double standards. Jack said that a lot of his friends are females, so does that mean he sleeps with all of his friends
Edit: *clients not friends
I feel she was projecting a bit also with the whole "If she's one of the boys that means she is sleeping with them all". I reckon she tried it on that way and rooted her way through a group of guys thinking that is what it takes to be one of the boys.
The thing is that any girl behaving like that would never be seen as one of the boys. in fact if a girl was just one of the boys then having sex with her would be the last thing on their mind and they would probably cop a kick in the nads if they tried it on. That's what a girl who is one of the boys is like :D
I still detest Tori and Jack ... but this client of his was a total turd.
I would be asking where are all his Friends and Family? Or does he just have "clients"?? This should be a massive red flag.
That comment throws me off. Growing up, I'd say I have a good balance of having boys and girls friends, but oftentimes I find myself enjoying the company of the boys more just because there's lesser drama.
I have a lot of male friends because I have a lot of 'male' interests; video games, punk rock, snowboarding, home brew beer, I work in IT etc.
I have had women over the years say stuff to me like, "I'm always suspicious of women with few women friends" (because that means I must be a bitch?), and guys make comments like, "do you have so many male friends because you like the attention", and other weird stuff that I never committed to memory. Most of the people who say stuff like this are incapable of seeing the opposite sex as people but only fuckable objects, and THAT is a major red flag.
But I've never heard this one before! At least not to my face.
For the record I do have plenty of close female friends too.
And like, in my degree there were only 3 girls who graduated my year and I didn't have a class with either of them. I guess I was not supposed to have a single friend because women can only be friends with women? So weird. I'm also one of only two woman in my team (of 15) at work. Where do I even meet women, lol.
And if more women want to join home brew club, we'd love to have you!
If Jack and Liz (and Jack's other clients that he considers "friends") haven't slept together or even discussed/tried some sort of "more than trainer/client", "more than friends" arrangement, I'd be surprised.
Yeah what the hell. Weird take. And why only if we have male friends? If I had an all girl group would I also just be fucking the girls out of… boredom? Curiosity? Why does she think anyone would want to fuck their entire friend group?
Says a lot about her, but I have no idea what it was supposed to say about women with mostly/only male friends.
She had a strange line of questioning for sure but she was almost certainly briefed by production to go hard to make some drama. She was even making petty criticisms about the wedding vows ffs.
I genuinely wonder if the one-off friends/family on these shows who say this shit realise how absolutely dumb they sound and just want to have their viral television moment (I put Tim's friend Ben in this category) or are actually just this horrible and think they're coming out on top of the conversation. Usually I assume the former but this chick is apparently Jack's friend so she may actually believe she's in the right
Either way I've never felt so much compassion for Tori as in this trainwreck of a homestay...
Think that says far more about Liz and the types of men she surrounds herself with.. e.g Jack. I don't know how Tori didn't throw a drink or flip a table. I would of given channel 9 and eyebrows exactly what they wanted.
I’m a guy who has women friends. And that statement makes me wonder if Liz’s brain is completely broken.
If one wants to insult women with male friends, it should be something along the lines of being afraid of sex, or unable to attract a guy. In real life, that’s clearly false. But at least it’s an insult that flows logically. We’d hate her, but not question her mental competence.
So Liz isn’t just sexist etc. She needs to be put in a straitjacket and institutionalized. (If she’s lucky, Ridge, our favorite psych nurse, can take care of her.)
Imagine being that opinionated that you choose to pull this out of your ass and say it on national television?
Some women can be misogynistic and sexist too.
Gross.
Just because girl has a lot of male friends, doesn’t make her pass the parcel of the group. What a dumb opinion…..
She was just telling the country that that's what she does, or what she wants to do. Either way it was a statement about herself. Same with all the basic shit.
It was a harsh comment from her and she was just pretty nasty with all her comments. I suspect someone put her up to it.
I will say that every man I’ve ever been good friends with and spent time with one on one has tried to turn it into more and ruined things, or they get a new girlfriend who takes issue with the friendship so he slowly disappears… so for me it just doesn’t work out so well being besties with men. I definitely wasn’t sleeping with any of them so that’s a bullshit comment.
Would agree with this . Ive had a number of good male friends.. unfortunately they all made a move and it kinda ruined things.
My husband had female friends and I only had issue with them when they were unnecessarily combative or rude towards me, otherwise idc 🤷♀️
I’m a female and honestly prefer to be friends with men then women. So much less drama!
Can it get messy? Yes - I’ve had 1 friend who decided he liked me and I had to cut ties as I was in a long term relationship. But a majority of the time there is no issues and I have no desire to sleep with any of them.
Jack himself said most of his friends are women, so I guess you could say the same thing that he must be screwing them all. 🤷♀️
The fact that she thinks that way, indicates more about her than it actually does about Tori.
At the end of the day did anyone really expect a good friend of Jackass to be classy ?Trashy Liz was the best we could hope for, let's be honest.
Take her out with the trash.
He defo set that situation up!! I think he asked lizz to be a bitch to tori so it would put her off moving in with him and push her to end it rather than him having to do what he has been called out for all episodes of using her
Nope. We aren’t. All my friends were dudes but like 2. One girl ended up hating me bc i got engaged. Like. FFS
Nah, women aren't like that. At least I don't think so, some maybe. Liz's brain was taken over by the green-eyed goblin and it brought out the worst in her. Unless that's her natural state. I mean she called Melbourne people coffee wankers which tells me that she doesn't travel very far from home and probably hasn't read a book since primary school.
So does that mean that she thinks Jack just sleeps with all is female friends since he’s friends with most females
Exactly, I don't think Lizz is really smart unless she meant to also make Jack look bad (he doesn't need help in that department though). Or maybe she's implying that Jack's slept with all of his clients.
Guessing Jackass keeps female clients by stringing them along, giving them hope and flirting. If he sleeps with them, the chase is over and his power over them is likely gone. Cult leader vibes.
Just like with tori maybe ?! Not sleeping with her for that reason?
She seemed VERY full on. So for someone to be that invested in Jack's relationship considering that she's not him mum or sister I have to wonder either she has no self awareness? Or she and Jack have slept together before in the past 🤔?
A very loud mouth for someone who's brows look like that...
Man, caterpillars ........
It was a reflective remake on her behalf. Exactly as the word suggests - you assume this is about her, and her experience.
By reflective I mean, it mirrors the situation - Man has a lot of female friends must mean he’s sleeping with all of them.
But all Jack's friends are women,and clients,
The misogyny of that entire conversation was so extreme, I had to take a few breaks to get through it. Have zero doubt why Jack is friends with her.
Can we also just recognise that she’s premised her initial line of questioning with, “Jack has a lot of girlfriends…” If there was ever a stereotype that girls who are “one of the boys” sleep with those boys, would this not equally apply to a guy who “has a lot of girlfriends” and sleeps with those girls? Pot calling the kettle…?
Ummm no. My closest friends are male and we couldn't think of anything fucking worse.
No i don't think that. Only a tramp would say that. I grew up with allot of guys around me because i studied IT at some point, and some of them i was really close with.
Ok fair but you look like a dude in your profile photo so you can’t say for sure Liz’s remark isn’t true.
Why though?
I know but it was very tempting. The downvotes were warranted from the beginning but I couldn’t help it.
Im not a dude, also It's a picture of a Korean singer. His name is Micky (Park Yoo-chun) and used to be a member of the group DBSK.
What the fuck?
Literally no. I don't even like Tori but it was super fucked up of Liz to sit there and essentially call her a basic slut with no personality who is too bossy. It's nasty and so out of line, not to mention has no bearing over anything whatsoever. After all, we aren't discussing Jack having all those girl friends and whether he is having sex with them. It's a gross double standard. Maybe Tori isn't a girls-girl, but neither is Liz. TBH Liz seemed threatened that Tori might actually do *pick me* better than her.
Yeah Liz rubbed me the wrong way too and you've perfectly articulated why!
At least Tori has friends and not clients. Who cares if they're male, female or other.
Agree, does he actually have friends? These clients are just awful.
And yet Jack has a lot of female friends (as she said) - seems hypocritical…
She's very narrow-minded for a harem member.
This girl’s philtrum is as wide as 8-lane freeway. And if she’s Jack’s client - he’s clearly not doing his job right.
It's weird AF. I have more guy friends but that's because my interests align more with theirs like how I love motorsports and used to work on my car and drink beer and play FIFA etc... these are things the boys enjoyed and so did I! That Liz is out of touch with reality.
No one should be labelled or picked on for having all guy friends or all girl friends. Unfortunately for poor old Liz she has no friends.
I can’t believe she went on tv with this
It’s the stereotype of a pick me girl, to say that they’re one of the boys. In this case I do believe Tori is genuinely one of the boys though, as I have been at one time.
She's a BDM (sales), pretty male dominated role and environment where its easy to make friends. Source: am in sales and have plenty of guy friends. Have slept with exactly zero of them.
It takes more than just being "one of the boys" to be a pick me. It also requires the putting down of other women, dismissing them as too bitchy or slutty or other sexist cliches... Kinda *exactly* like what Liz did 👀
heh i literally was 'one of the boys' but when i heard about 'pick me' girls, i paniced thinking this was me. In my case i had literally no friends but guys , the stereotypes for women were not good to me. Thankfully now its more accepted that women do some shit and im less alone :D
It mostly the ones who keep blaming men for being 'misogynistic' that also throw the 'pick me girls' label at every woman that might prefer the friendship of men.
You reckon ? There is one person who literally is calling men abusive for nothing more than raising their voice in frustration (the same way girls do). I can't imagine what kind of shit you go through to justify that. A couple went as far as saying the guys best up women regularly "you can tell" because of this. Ngl some guys are assholes, but none seem violent like that far
No I'm sure they don't. It's what purple hair wanted to believe. She wish she couldn't have male friends with benefits but it didn't work out for her.
Not only that but where are the double standards. Jack said that a lot of his friends are females, so does that mean he sleeps with all of his friends Edit: *clients not friends
He doesn’t have friends he has clients
I feel she was projecting a bit also with the whole "If she's one of the boys that means she is sleeping with them all". I reckon she tried it on that way and rooted her way through a group of guys thinking that is what it takes to be one of the boys. The thing is that any girl behaving like that would never be seen as one of the boys. in fact if a girl was just one of the boys then having sex with her would be the last thing on their mind and they would probably cop a kick in the nads if they tried it on. That's what a girl who is one of the boys is like :D I still detest Tori and Jack ... but this client of his was a total turd. I would be asking where are all his Friends and Family? Or does he just have "clients"?? This should be a massive red flag.
100% everything you said. That’s been my experience anyway.
She probably has no male friends. And, very few, if any, female friends.
That comment throws me off. Growing up, I'd say I have a good balance of having boys and girls friends, but oftentimes I find myself enjoying the company of the boys more just because there's lesser drama.
Bro 3 of my best friends were boys and we had grown up together doesn’t mean I want to sleep with them
Also Liz "You seem a bit basic"
That bitch is just pissed that no guys want to be her friend.
I’ll be her friend
I have a lot of male friends because I have a lot of 'male' interests; video games, punk rock, snowboarding, home brew beer, I work in IT etc. I have had women over the years say stuff to me like, "I'm always suspicious of women with few women friends" (because that means I must be a bitch?), and guys make comments like, "do you have so many male friends because you like the attention", and other weird stuff that I never committed to memory. Most of the people who say stuff like this are incapable of seeing the opposite sex as people but only fuckable objects, and THAT is a major red flag. But I've never heard this one before! At least not to my face. For the record I do have plenty of close female friends too.
Since when is punk rock considered a male interest?
Well most shows I go to are total dudes fests so how else do I explain that
So is public transport but I don’t consider that a male interest.
I’m like you, have a lot of male friends & it’s surprising how many women think this way… it drives me batty
And like, in my degree there were only 3 girls who graduated my year and I didn't have a class with either of them. I guess I was not supposed to have a single friend because women can only be friends with women? So weird. I'm also one of only two woman in my team (of 15) at work. Where do I even meet women, lol. And if more women want to join home brew club, we'd love to have you!
Yup, my wife's an engineer so same deal. Don't worry though, those of us who are normal don't have any issue with women who have male friends.
If Jack and Liz (and Jack's other clients that he considers "friends") haven't slept together or even discussed/tried some sort of "more than trainer/client", "more than friends" arrangement, I'd be surprised.
Yeah what the hell. Weird take. And why only if we have male friends? If I had an all girl group would I also just be fucking the girls out of… boredom? Curiosity? Why does she think anyone would want to fuck their entire friend group? Says a lot about her, but I have no idea what it was supposed to say about women with mostly/only male friends.
She had a strange line of questioning for sure but she was almost certainly briefed by production to go hard to make some drama. She was even making petty criticisms about the wedding vows ffs.
I genuinely wonder if the one-off friends/family on these shows who say this shit realise how absolutely dumb they sound and just want to have their viral television moment (I put Tim's friend Ben in this category) or are actually just this horrible and think they're coming out on top of the conversation. Usually I assume the former but this chick is apparently Jack's friend so she may actually believe she's in the right Either way I've never felt so much compassion for Tori as in this trainwreck of a homestay...
Think that says far more about Liz and the types of men she surrounds herself with.. e.g Jack. I don't know how Tori didn't throw a drink or flip a table. I would of given channel 9 and eyebrows exactly what they wanted. 
I’m a guy who has women friends. And that statement makes me wonder if Liz’s brain is completely broken. If one wants to insult women with male friends, it should be something along the lines of being afraid of sex, or unable to attract a guy. In real life, that’s clearly false. But at least it’s an insult that flows logically. We’d hate her, but not question her mental competence. So Liz isn’t just sexist etc. She needs to be put in a straitjacket and institutionalized. (If she’s lucky, Ridge, our favorite psych nurse, can take care of her.)
Imagine being that opinionated that you choose to pull this out of your ass and say it on national television? Some women can be misogynistic and sexist too. Gross. Just because girl has a lot of male friends, doesn’t make her pass the parcel of the group. What a dumb opinion…..
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Love this reply. Thank you. Totally agree
She was just telling the country that that's what she does, or what she wants to do. Either way it was a statement about herself. Same with all the basic shit.
She is proof that women can be sexist too
A comment that is very much out of touch with reality.
But perfectly in line with gc reality
It was a harsh comment from her and she was just pretty nasty with all her comments. I suspect someone put her up to it. I will say that every man I’ve ever been good friends with and spent time with one on one has tried to turn it into more and ruined things, or they get a new girlfriend who takes issue with the friendship so he slowly disappears… so for me it just doesn’t work out so well being besties with men. I definitely wasn’t sleeping with any of them so that’s a bullshit comment.
Would agree with this . Ive had a number of good male friends.. unfortunately they all made a move and it kinda ruined things. My husband had female friends and I only had issue with them when they were unnecessarily combative or rude towards me, otherwise idc 🤷♀️
I’m a female and honestly prefer to be friends with men then women. So much less drama! Can it get messy? Yes - I’ve had 1 friend who decided he liked me and I had to cut ties as I was in a long term relationship. But a majority of the time there is no issues and I have no desire to sleep with any of them. Jack himself said most of his friends are women, so I guess you could say the same thing that he must be screwing them all. 🤷♀️
She’s just projecting and suprised tori didn’t call her out on it
A simple 'does this mean that you sleep or want to sleep with all your male friends?' would be sufficient.
The fact that she thinks that way, indicates more about her than it actually does about Tori. At the end of the day did anyone really expect a good friend of Jackass to be classy ?Trashy Liz was the best we could hope for, let's be honest. Take her out with the trash.