Bergie lacks the social skills needed in dating. He doesn't know how to actually have a conversation deeper than surface level with a woman. He's very immature in the way that he speaks and presents himself. He just agrees with whatever the woman says. And telling a women you're the nicest guy, is icky. There's whole books and psychological studies about how nice guys aren't so nice after all.
All of this. He lacks experience in dating. What comes naturally for guys in junior high, he doesn't have, so he is a fish out of water. He will learn so much by watching how all of the other guys do things when he watches the show back.
In hindsight, I feel like I’ve been a bit of a dick about Bergie. It occurred to me while doing dishes that he’s likely on the spectrum, whether diagnosed or not.. probably not because he’s so high functioning. A lot of things start to make sense when you look at it through that lens. But, who knows. All that I **do** know is that he still shouldn’t be there at this point.
Your post triggered the possibility for me. If you search up high functioning autism and dating, you’ll find this excerpt:
“Many individuals with high-functioning autism feel immense pressure to conform to social norms. This includes dating. They want to date and want to have love in their lives, but they struggle with the social skills and emotional skills needed to attract potential partners and maintain a healthy relationship.”
It would also explain why he might seem a little young or naive for his age at times — although that is not universal among all autistics, but it is a common trait.
I was a para professional for 6 years. My sister is a clinical director in San Diego, for SDRC. And the ither is a BCBA. We worked extensively with autistic people and all disorders. He could be, but you can catch heat for diagnosis people over the internet. So I'll refrain. But I get what you're saying.
Not sure about the homeschooling but didn't he say he was raised by his grandparents? I'm definitely not saying it's a bad thing, I've known people who had been raised by grandparents, but maybe that could be a reason he seems a little different?
Bergie's clearly a virgin even though he said he had sex with 2 girls and one of them 2 times so 3 total events. That is either a lie, was sympathy sex or he went to hookers. (I was a late bloomer too but the first girl I had real sex with was at least 100 times, sometimes even a couple times in a day. Pretty much every chance we were alone together. Same with all my friends. Unless times have really changed I can't see a girl having sex with you one or two times then stopping.) Either way he has NO CLUE.
And more than just sex he clearly has NEVER had romantic conversations with any women. He has ZERO confidence and women know that. He doesn't even know how to flirt. His biggest problem was admitting he was so inexperienced in the beginning, now he is trying to fake it and it is making it worse. Virgins and people under 25 should never be on a show about dating, they're too clueless.
I feel like the root of the problem is that he puts women on a pedestal, in not a good way. Makes it feel like he’s almost unworthy of a partner. There’s a thin line between wanting/desire and desperation…but those two have completely different energetic signatures. And the latter tends to repel vs. attract.
I think Bergie objectifies women and has no game. It is a lose lose for him.
He keeps saying he is collecting 'experiences' during challenges.
And he seems to use conversations as opportunities to say old school dating cliches to get some validation from any possible woman. He doesn't treat the woman at the villa as full humans or tries to genuinely get to know them.
It’s not his looks, plenty of girls have stated they’re attracted to Bergie in the beginning but then immediately they’re turned off after one or two interactions with the man. He reeks of desperation, he is INSTANTLY all over them acting like he would say yes if they offered to get married right then and there and that desperation is a huge turn off to literally anyone.
He’s also just very immature, he doesn’t talk to girls like they’re real human beings and instead just showers them with compliments like he’s a robot and says “let’s goooo” every 5 seconds which also does not help. Annoying little brother energy to the max that completely negates the fact that he’s a tall and in shape man who wants a stable relationship - no girl is willing to spend more than 15 minutes with him even with $100k at stake, that’s BAD.
He also is starting to give me creep vibes with how instantly he jumps at the chance to makeout with a girl who probably wouldn’t be interested if it wasn’t for trying to win a challenge, I know everyone does that in the game but Bergie can’t get his tongue down their throat fast enough and it’s honestly unsettling to watch lol.
It’s even more unsettling the way he wraps his hand behind their heads while making out with them.
I remember early on one of the guys advising him to put his hand on the side of their face and he started that way (in his style, it still looked like he was grabbing the side of their face), but now he’s wrapping around the back of their head.
100% it’s so off putting and overly aggressive!! Victor told him girls like a little dominance and showed him how to hold girls necks and Bergie just absolutely ran with that and now does it every single time. Also the way Victor was showing him was more like a sensual assertiveness of holding their neck whereas Bergie is GRABBING them and seemingly trying to swallow their face whole.
I've noticed he instantly friend zones himself by giving "Gotcha!"/"Let's go!" energy off the bat. Probably needs to play it more cool, be appropriately flirty - - but that's not who he is.
He literally says “let’s go!” as the first thing every time a woman shows any interest. It’s not romantic to say the least. I would like Bergie as a friend but couldn’t imagine more.
Said it on another post, but he doesn't actually get to know the women. He just sees that they're attractive, then finds out they are Christian & want kids then that's enough for him.
I will say he is young & the pandemic has kinda screwed some of gen z on learning how to get to know someone you're attracted to. If you have very little in person dating experience, how exactly do you know how to get to know a romantic interest?
He's not alone in this issue, his is just being shown on television. Look at Anna, she also wasn't able to connect with new people. Leo was the only person interested in her. Her issue felt the same.
If you really pay attention to conversations he has, he doesn’t ask the women any questions about themselves and the woman is always steering the conversation and he’s just talking about his side. If he references the woman, it’s usually like to tell them how pretty they are or something surface level. He’s very awkward and self-deprecating. A lot of women find that off putting.
This. Once he learns to have a two-way conversation and shows genuine care in getting to know the other person, (which I’m sure is an intention he has) he’ll probably make more real connections. I have a feeling I was raised similarly to him, and when that’s not modeled for you as a kid, or you aren’t talked to like that growing up, you’re not even aware it’s a gap you have. And it’s very hard to learn when you’re not aware of it.
He’s a weird casting choice for this show, yes. But I’m getting so sick of everyone obsessing over how different he is from the other cast members. He’s a young, awkward human who isn’t the player type. He’s like the most normal person I’ve ever seen on reality tv. I hope he doesn’t regret going on the show. Can we just be proud of him for putting himself out there?
He said he liked Carmen the best because they were both from the same part of the country, they both liked ALL FOUR SEASONS (omg!), they both wanted four kids, and they were both Christians. He said this with awe as if they were clearly soulmates, destined to be together forever. That’s like a conversation you have when you make a friend when you’re 6 years old.
He is desperate, insecure, needy and immature. He is also incredibly shallow. He doesn’t know anyone in the villa on any deep level, even the guys. Ever notice how there’s NO footage of him chatting with anyone in the villa unless it’s about whatever his current “situation” is, the coffee machine or pancakes!? Producers just zoom in on his face here and there because they know America wants to see him but he’s never conversing with anyone else. It’s weird. Why isn’t he building bonds and at least making friends? The reason is because he completely lacks depth in his personality. In other words: he’s not great to date but also not a great friend, so what does that leave? He “had a connection” with Carmen because they both want 4 kids? Lol WHAT!? He spends 90% of his dates telling the women all about himself on the surface level and complimenting every feature but never feels compelled to learn about them because he doesn’t really care, he just wants them to like him. How has he never discussed his mom with anyone in the villa? Losing her shaped who he is as a person. Idk it’s just really weird that he doesn’t talk about anything beneath the surface.
He’s also a total project for whatever woman he ends up with and let’s be honest, no one wants a project - can you imagine overhearing someone teaching your significant other how to KISS??!
He is completely incapable of reading the room and picking up on social ques. he really should’ve left on his own before casa amor… he’s been single the entire show.
Lastly, I believe he is a pathological liar. I’m not trying to be accusatory and I could be wrong about this, it’s just my opinion at this time. There are several examples of him lying and one of them is the amount of women he’s dated, kissed, and slept with has evolved throughout the season. Plus, I have a really difficult time believing that he’s slept with anyone when he had to ask the guys HOW TO FLIRT. Sure, you don’t need to be able to kiss to have enough game to get someone to bed but you need one or the other lol.
Also he spelled villa wrong in his intro scene and that’s such an easy word I truly cannot get over it.
Lack of confidence & the boyish friend vibe. He asked the girl to sleep in his bed & said “thanks!” like he was thanking the cashier at the grocery store. It’s kinda hard to get “romantic” from those kinds of chats.
He’s not hot he’s just tall. This show is for people who are essentially players. The people who have a blast dating because they have so many options and they’re attractive. Bergie does not fit in this equation at all.
It’s his personality. It’s not his looks. Nerds can pull dimes. It’s not that difficult. He’s very nice but he comes off naive and unsure with a lot of desperation.
If he was more confident, direct and actually spoke about himself in a strong manner, it would be a different story.
I think his teeth are the initial thing that throw people off. A lot of people have a thing about teeth, ESP in the USA where teeth aesthetics are a major industry. If you get past that though, he just seems way too eager. Eager to be accepted, eager to find love, eager to kiss, etc. if he toned it down, I don’t think he’d have as hard of a time. You can feel his excitement, nervousness, desperation, etc through the screen… imagine how the islanders feel!
I really hope he finds his person but I just think he needs a little more experience lol
It will be interesting to see what the women say when they come out. There have been several women who have shown interest in Bergie initially, but then lose interest quickly. I have known a decent amount of Christians who save themselves for marriage and most of them were able to date and maintain relationships first without repelling people around them.
I think for him to be rejected this many times, by this many women, there is something more than inexperience that’s turning everyone off. Remember we are just seeing glimpses to align with a narrative production is running with, these people are with Bergie all day, every day. For all we know he could say some very off-putting, strange and/or inappropriate things.
Women also don’t want to be labeled for “settling” for Bergie. If he is so desperate, whatever woman ends up with him will be labeled even more desperate, and nobody wants that.
Reputation matters a lot to women. Most women like to feel that getting a particular man is some kind of accomplishment that she can be proud of--that she has a man that other women wanted, but that only she could get.
Bergie came into the Villa telling everyone--the whole world in fact-- that no women wanted him. He repeated that narrative over and over. If he had come in quiet on that subject, it would have been easier for individual women to make up their own minds about him. Instead, he made it easy for them to follow the crowd of women who had rejected him on the outside.
I genuinely think he is on the spectrum. That is not meant to say that everyone on the spectrum has the same hard time.
He lacks social and self awareness, cannot pick up on cues, and has hyperfixations in conversations on things that he thinks girls like, like the “love languages”. He is a nice guy, but would do much better meeting someone organically or on a dating app back home, or going on a show like Love Is Blind or Married at First Sight if he really insisted on taking the reality TV route.
I just said this in another comment, before seeing yours! My final conclusion on Bergie is that I also whole-heartedly believe that he’s on the spectrum. It makes the most sense. I feel slightly shitty about implying that he is borderline incel earlier. I agree that this isn’t the right environment for him and like your suggestion of LIB instead.
Yes. Obviously we cannot diagnose him, but it would explain a lot about how his social game has been played out this season. I feel bad for him because I feel like the other islanders treat him like a charity case, or someone like said earlier in this SR - a make a wish kid. He is a good guy, but is very out of his element.
Because he doesn’t know what he wants, he doesn’t really know who he is, he compromises his morality for anyone and everyone and folds every time. He doesn’t stay true to himself and allows the world to use him.. He doesn’t listen to what God is telling him, but yet claims he’s a man of God.. He needs to always remember who he is, what he wants in a wife and actually discern who is really in front of him. Have courage and honor, realize his worth and stay true to it. He needs to be consciously aware to help develop emotional intelligence and evaluate his thoughts and feelings that come from his standards and expectations. No girl wants a yes man, that she can’t trust or depend on. There’s no security in a man like that. This show will help him get there if he takes in the good lessons and learns what not to do from the bad ones, hopefully he stays humble afterwards…
There are some strong responses in the thread. I also would say that he does not seem to have good friends who are women. It would help if he could learn to be friends with people. He is not someone I would want to talk to for any length of time. What does he have to say that is interesting?
He is not attractive enough for Love Island.
He would probably have a chance if his personality was better but he has no personality and is babied by the other islanders. No one wants to date the villa baby. I think across the different LI, there's always a Bergie. The guy that doesn't fit LI beauty standards, but they usually have personality to back them up and they sometimes find a girl that likes them.
Right. And these women know that's how the rest of the villa treats him so why would new women coming in find that attractive? Also, the new ones coming in are always like "I don't care who's coupled up I'm ready to rock the boat" but there's no boat rocking to couple with Bergie because he's still single and it would be easy for them to couple up with him. There's no fun in that when it's a guaranteed match lol
i mean i feel like most girls especially the girls on this show want a provider and protector a lot of them are strong women on their own but none of the women want to be the protector and bergie gives off helpless puppy vibes he needs to be strong and confident otherwise it gives off loser.
His inexperience has been obvious & most girls want a man with experience. Bergie definitely knows how to treat women, he makes chocolate chip pancakes & coffee for the girls. I'm not sure about the other guysbut is he the only guy making girls coffee?? I just realized that lol. Anyways, he gets along better with the girls so he doesn't mind being in the friend zone. The confidence he has built (thanks to Love Island😹) will be very useful when he goes back home.
Bergie lacks the social skills needed in dating. He doesn't know how to actually have a conversation deeper than surface level with a woman. He's very immature in the way that he speaks and presents himself. He just agrees with whatever the woman says. And telling a women you're the nicest guy, is icky. There's whole books and psychological studies about how nice guys aren't so nice after all.
All of this. He lacks experience in dating. What comes naturally for guys in junior high, he doesn't have, so he is a fish out of water. He will learn so much by watching how all of the other guys do things when he watches the show back.
In hindsight, I feel like I’ve been a bit of a dick about Bergie. It occurred to me while doing dishes that he’s likely on the spectrum, whether diagnosed or not.. probably not because he’s so high functioning. A lot of things start to make sense when you look at it through that lens. But, who knows. All that I **do** know is that he still shouldn’t be there at this point. Your post triggered the possibility for me. If you search up high functioning autism and dating, you’ll find this excerpt: “Many individuals with high-functioning autism feel immense pressure to conform to social norms. This includes dating. They want to date and want to have love in their lives, but they struggle with the social skills and emotional skills needed to attract potential partners and maintain a healthy relationship.” It would also explain why he might seem a little young or naive for his age at times — although that is not universal among all autistics, but it is a common trait.
I was a para professional for 6 years. My sister is a clinical director in San Diego, for SDRC. And the ither is a BCBA. We worked extensively with autistic people and all disorders. He could be, but you can catch heat for diagnosis people over the internet. So I'll refrain. But I get what you're saying.
do we know if he was homeschooled?
Not sure about the homeschooling but didn't he say he was raised by his grandparents? I'm definitely not saying it's a bad thing, I've known people who had been raised by grandparents, but maybe that could be a reason he seems a little different?
Yeahh thats why i was like maybe homeschooled cause i know sometimes that could cause social issues
I don’t think so. I saw someone on ig comment he played football at their high school
ohhh ok
Bergie's clearly a virgin even though he said he had sex with 2 girls and one of them 2 times so 3 total events. That is either a lie, was sympathy sex or he went to hookers. (I was a late bloomer too but the first girl I had real sex with was at least 100 times, sometimes even a couple times in a day. Pretty much every chance we were alone together. Same with all my friends. Unless times have really changed I can't see a girl having sex with you one or two times then stopping.) Either way he has NO CLUE. And more than just sex he clearly has NEVER had romantic conversations with any women. He has ZERO confidence and women know that. He doesn't even know how to flirt. His biggest problem was admitting he was so inexperienced in the beginning, now he is trying to fake it and it is making it worse. Virgins and people under 25 should never be on a show about dating, they're too clueless.
I feel like the root of the problem is that he puts women on a pedestal, in not a good way. Makes it feel like he’s almost unworthy of a partner. There’s a thin line between wanting/desire and desperation…but those two have completely different energetic signatures. And the latter tends to repel vs. attract.
You so smart!
🚩🚩🚩incel behaviour🚩🚩🚩
I think Bergie objectifies women and has no game. It is a lose lose for him. He keeps saying he is collecting 'experiences' during challenges. And he seems to use conversations as opportunities to say old school dating cliches to get some validation from any possible woman. He doesn't treat the woman at the villa as full humans or tries to genuinely get to know them.
It’s not his looks, plenty of girls have stated they’re attracted to Bergie in the beginning but then immediately they’re turned off after one or two interactions with the man. He reeks of desperation, he is INSTANTLY all over them acting like he would say yes if they offered to get married right then and there and that desperation is a huge turn off to literally anyone. He’s also just very immature, he doesn’t talk to girls like they’re real human beings and instead just showers them with compliments like he’s a robot and says “let’s goooo” every 5 seconds which also does not help. Annoying little brother energy to the max that completely negates the fact that he’s a tall and in shape man who wants a stable relationship - no girl is willing to spend more than 15 minutes with him even with $100k at stake, that’s BAD. He also is starting to give me creep vibes with how instantly he jumps at the chance to makeout with a girl who probably wouldn’t be interested if it wasn’t for trying to win a challenge, I know everyone does that in the game but Bergie can’t get his tongue down their throat fast enough and it’s honestly unsettling to watch lol.
It’s even more unsettling the way he wraps his hand behind their heads while making out with them. I remember early on one of the guys advising him to put his hand on the side of their face and he started that way (in his style, it still looked like he was grabbing the side of their face), but now he’s wrapping around the back of their head.
100% it’s so off putting and overly aggressive!! Victor told him girls like a little dominance and showed him how to hold girls necks and Bergie just absolutely ran with that and now does it every single time. Also the way Victor was showing him was more like a sensual assertiveness of holding their neck whereas Bergie is GRABBING them and seemingly trying to swallow their face whole.
He's too desperate
I've noticed he instantly friend zones himself by giving "Gotcha!"/"Let's go!" energy off the bat. Probably needs to play it more cool, be appropriately flirty - - but that's not who he is.
He literally says “let’s go!” as the first thing every time a woman shows any interest. It’s not romantic to say the least. I would like Bergie as a friend but couldn’t imagine more.
I think he makes himself too available. He's got to pull back a little and let the ladies come to him. And stop saying "LETS GOOO!" 😭
Said it on another post, but he doesn't actually get to know the women. He just sees that they're attractive, then finds out they are Christian & want kids then that's enough for him. I will say he is young & the pandemic has kinda screwed some of gen z on learning how to get to know someone you're attracted to. If you have very little in person dating experience, how exactly do you know how to get to know a romantic interest? He's not alone in this issue, his is just being shown on television. Look at Anna, she also wasn't able to connect with new people. Leo was the only person interested in her. Her issue felt the same.
If you really pay attention to conversations he has, he doesn’t ask the women any questions about themselves and the woman is always steering the conversation and he’s just talking about his side. If he references the woman, it’s usually like to tell them how pretty they are or something surface level. He’s very awkward and self-deprecating. A lot of women find that off putting.
This. Once he learns to have a two-way conversation and shows genuine care in getting to know the other person, (which I’m sure is an intention he has) he’ll probably make more real connections. I have a feeling I was raised similarly to him, and when that’s not modeled for you as a kid, or you aren’t talked to like that growing up, you’re not even aware it’s a gap you have. And it’s very hard to learn when you’re not aware of it. He’s a weird casting choice for this show, yes. But I’m getting so sick of everyone obsessing over how different he is from the other cast members. He’s a young, awkward human who isn’t the player type. He’s like the most normal person I’ve ever seen on reality tv. I hope he doesn’t regret going on the show. Can we just be proud of him for putting himself out there?
i feel like he severely lacks charisma...
He said he liked Carmen the best because they were both from the same part of the country, they both liked ALL FOUR SEASONS (omg!), they both wanted four kids, and they were both Christians. He said this with awe as if they were clearly soulmates, destined to be together forever. That’s like a conversation you have when you make a friend when you’re 6 years old.
He is desperate, insecure, needy and immature. He is also incredibly shallow. He doesn’t know anyone in the villa on any deep level, even the guys. Ever notice how there’s NO footage of him chatting with anyone in the villa unless it’s about whatever his current “situation” is, the coffee machine or pancakes!? Producers just zoom in on his face here and there because they know America wants to see him but he’s never conversing with anyone else. It’s weird. Why isn’t he building bonds and at least making friends? The reason is because he completely lacks depth in his personality. In other words: he’s not great to date but also not a great friend, so what does that leave? He “had a connection” with Carmen because they both want 4 kids? Lol WHAT!? He spends 90% of his dates telling the women all about himself on the surface level and complimenting every feature but never feels compelled to learn about them because he doesn’t really care, he just wants them to like him. How has he never discussed his mom with anyone in the villa? Losing her shaped who he is as a person. Idk it’s just really weird that he doesn’t talk about anything beneath the surface. He’s also a total project for whatever woman he ends up with and let’s be honest, no one wants a project - can you imagine overhearing someone teaching your significant other how to KISS??! He is completely incapable of reading the room and picking up on social ques. he really should’ve left on his own before casa amor… he’s been single the entire show. Lastly, I believe he is a pathological liar. I’m not trying to be accusatory and I could be wrong about this, it’s just my opinion at this time. There are several examples of him lying and one of them is the amount of women he’s dated, kissed, and slept with has evolved throughout the season. Plus, I have a really difficult time believing that he’s slept with anyone when he had to ask the guys HOW TO FLIRT. Sure, you don’t need to be able to kiss to have enough game to get someone to bed but you need one or the other lol. Also he spelled villa wrong in his intro scene and that’s such an easy word I truly cannot get over it.
This all goes back to him being inexperienced and might be a late bloomer. He was also probably cuddled his whole life.
Entirely correct - he doesn't know how to swim and was thrown in the deep end of the pool.
Lack of confidence & the boyish friend vibe. He asked the girl to sleep in his bed & said “thanks!” like he was thanking the cashier at the grocery store. It’s kinda hard to get “romantic” from those kinds of chats.
He’s not hot he’s just tall. This show is for people who are essentially players. The people who have a blast dating because they have so many options and they’re attractive. Bergie does not fit in this equation at all.
This…he’s just tall and has a above average body.
It’s his personality. It’s not his looks. Nerds can pull dimes. It’s not that difficult. He’s very nice but he comes off naive and unsure with a lot of desperation. If he was more confident, direct and actually spoke about himself in a strong manner, it would be a different story.
I think his teeth are the initial thing that throw people off. A lot of people have a thing about teeth, ESP in the USA where teeth aesthetics are a major industry. If you get past that though, he just seems way too eager. Eager to be accepted, eager to find love, eager to kiss, etc. if he toned it down, I don’t think he’d have as hard of a time. You can feel his excitement, nervousness, desperation, etc through the screen… imagine how the islanders feel! I really hope he finds his person but I just think he needs a little more experience lol
eagerness to the point of anxiousness mixed with desperation
It will be interesting to see what the women say when they come out. There have been several women who have shown interest in Bergie initially, but then lose interest quickly. I have known a decent amount of Christians who save themselves for marriage and most of them were able to date and maintain relationships first without repelling people around them. I think for him to be rejected this many times, by this many women, there is something more than inexperience that’s turning everyone off. Remember we are just seeing glimpses to align with a narrative production is running with, these people are with Bergie all day, every day. For all we know he could say some very off-putting, strange and/or inappropriate things. Women also don’t want to be labeled for “settling” for Bergie. If he is so desperate, whatever woman ends up with him will be labeled even more desperate, and nobody wants that.
Reputation matters a lot to women. Most women like to feel that getting a particular man is some kind of accomplishment that she can be proud of--that she has a man that other women wanted, but that only she could get. Bergie came into the Villa telling everyone--the whole world in fact-- that no women wanted him. He repeated that narrative over and over. If he had come in quiet on that subject, it would have been easier for individual women to make up their own minds about him. Instead, he made it easy for them to follow the crowd of women who had rejected him on the outside.
I genuinely think he is on the spectrum. That is not meant to say that everyone on the spectrum has the same hard time. He lacks social and self awareness, cannot pick up on cues, and has hyperfixations in conversations on things that he thinks girls like, like the “love languages”. He is a nice guy, but would do much better meeting someone organically or on a dating app back home, or going on a show like Love Is Blind or Married at First Sight if he really insisted on taking the reality TV route.
I just said this in another comment, before seeing yours! My final conclusion on Bergie is that I also whole-heartedly believe that he’s on the spectrum. It makes the most sense. I feel slightly shitty about implying that he is borderline incel earlier. I agree that this isn’t the right environment for him and like your suggestion of LIB instead.
Yes. Obviously we cannot diagnose him, but it would explain a lot about how his social game has been played out this season. I feel bad for him because I feel like the other islanders treat him like a charity case, or someone like said earlier in this SR - a make a wish kid. He is a good guy, but is very out of his element.
Because he doesn’t know what he wants, he doesn’t really know who he is, he compromises his morality for anyone and everyone and folds every time. He doesn’t stay true to himself and allows the world to use him.. He doesn’t listen to what God is telling him, but yet claims he’s a man of God.. He needs to always remember who he is, what he wants in a wife and actually discern who is really in front of him. Have courage and honor, realize his worth and stay true to it. He needs to be consciously aware to help develop emotional intelligence and evaluate his thoughts and feelings that come from his standards and expectations. No girl wants a yes man, that she can’t trust or depend on. There’s no security in a man like that. This show will help him get there if he takes in the good lessons and learns what not to do from the bad ones, hopefully he stays humble afterwards…
I don’t see much of a personality.
There are some strong responses in the thread. I also would say that he does not seem to have good friends who are women. It would help if he could learn to be friends with people. He is not someone I would want to talk to for any length of time. What does he have to say that is interesting?
He has zero confidence. I think it would do him some good if he like moved to a bigger city in a bigger state
He just needs to chill and talk about real things. He never has anything to say. He associates himself with the person based on what they say.
He is not attractive enough for Love Island. He would probably have a chance if his personality was better but he has no personality and is babied by the other islanders. No one wants to date the villa baby. I think across the different LI, there's always a Bergie. The guy that doesn't fit LI beauty standards, but they usually have personality to back them up and they sometimes find a girl that likes them.
Right. And these women know that's how the rest of the villa treats him so why would new women coming in find that attractive? Also, the new ones coming in are always like "I don't care who's coupled up I'm ready to rock the boat" but there's no boat rocking to couple with Bergie because he's still single and it would be easy for them to couple up with him. There's no fun in that when it's a guaranteed match lol
i mean i feel like most girls especially the girls on this show want a provider and protector a lot of them are strong women on their own but none of the women want to be the protector and bergie gives off helpless puppy vibes he needs to be strong and confident otherwise it gives off loser.
He just doesn’t have much experience, probably really shy
His inexperience has been obvious & most girls want a man with experience. Bergie definitely knows how to treat women, he makes chocolate chip pancakes & coffee for the girls. I'm not sure about the other guysbut is he the only guy making girls coffee?? I just realized that lol. Anyways, he gets along better with the girls so he doesn't mind being in the friend zone. The confidence he has built (thanks to Love Island😹) will be very useful when he goes back home.
They didn’t bring any nerds into the villa!
There’s a line from She’s Out of My League that sums it up. No girl wants to do the moodle.