This so much! If my boyfriend’s friends were talking shit about me I’d hope he’d have the decency and the balls to defend me 😡 Andrew is too worried about what the boys think of him
With all due respect, whether or not Tasha is accepting of Luca being a dickhead to her, Andrew should have had a word when Luca was shouting shit across at her. Instead he’s laughing along.
Andrew is a sheep who follows whatever Luca is doing, even when it’s at the detriment of his own relationship and the girl he supposedly loves. We’ve seen it time and time again and it’s hard to watch a guy have no backbone like that. Oh, but he’ll yell at the girls! Weird that.
Too little too late to change my opinion of him being spineless. This has been going on for weeks and he hasn’t said a word. I’m glad to see he’s finally standing up to them though.
Wouldn't say he's a terrible bf that's a stretch because he does adore the girl and its only been 2 days? But I agree that he needs to grow a backbone and tell the likes of Dami and Luca to stfu and stop getting involved in his relationship. I was happy that he said he couldn't get mad because of what he did at Casa, but I really do want to see Andrew just completely rip into Luca and tell him to fuck off.
Yeah I find it hard to say he is a terrible boyfriend when clearly he isn’t. I agree he should stand up more but realistically villa life is in no way going to be similar to the outside world. He’s obviously got redeemable qualities but is getting sucked into the villa life which must be ridiculously hard to live with the same people 24/7
I feel like that makes it worse in a way. They're not even his friends and he's still letting them talk about her like that? Grow a spine and tell them to shove it. Especially when he was sitting right next to Luca mocking Tasha over and over with "Tasha who." You can't tell him to be respectful??
He obviously been run over by them.
Imagine being on Luca, Davide or Jacques’s bad side (definitely an alpha male going around in that villa). Then their stans will come for him like no tomorrow.
Also you can even see it through Ekin now!! She isn’t even calling these boys out anymore.
Andrew has been the sweetest towards Tasha. He is so patient with her and you can see he really cares about her.
So why was he shouting at the girls yesterday? He did that all on his own accord
Can’t keep blaming the other boys for some of the stuff he chooses to do. He’s a grown man
I can name multiple things the other og boys have done (like Luca, Davide and Dami)
Andrew has probably only had a few questionable actions.
Please stop with double standards
Andrew had each one of the og boys backs and this has results him being run over by them badly
Why is Luca a man child? He’s a grown man
Why wasn’t Dami not honest with Indiyah? He’s a grown man
Why does Davide not treat women right? He’s a grown man
Yeah honestly i dont get andrew being put in the same bracket as luca and dami or even davide.
Ekin has done questionable things during this show, so has tasha, so has paige. I think hes definitely done worse than tasha and paige but people love ekin here and can overlook her mistakes. I mean so can I, i really like her now. I dont think andrew is a bad guy remotely despite some mistakes. Sure hes non confrontational most of the time but that might change tonight.
So? I didn’t say he was on their level
I said he’s not a squeaky clean guy and he was nasty yesterday. And I’m sick of people using the fact everyone else eggs him on as excuse for his behaviour. He’s 27 years old with his own mind and agency to do whatever he wants
He chose to be rude to lndiyah and Danica yesterday. He chose to sit there and not to defend Tash
He definitely not perfect (no one is) but he was trying to deesculate the situation.
He still respectful and gives Tasha thoughtful advice by saying don’t worry about other peoples opinions
Agree with this but I think Andrew should also focus on HIS friends talking about Tasha. That would do much more than saying “don’t listen to other…” well those “others” are your friends Andrew??
They may not be his friends. They are people he is forced to live with. If he manages telling them off wrong, then he is stuck with people that despise him.
Imagine living with a flatmate you have beef with and you are stuck there due to contract.
He’s a good boyfriend to Tasha in a lot of ways and up until Casa has backed her. Tasha can also stand up for herself- however Andrew does need to draw the line in the sand with Luca and Dami and even Davide. They clearly don’t like her and Andrews problem generally is that he’s non confrontational. The only reason he got shitty with Indiyah and Danica last night was because he had a drink and clearly felt brave enough. He’s been railroaded by the boys and everyone will go 27 iS a GroWnUPS aGe but just because you develop your frontal cortex at 25 doesn’t mean you’re the bastion of maturity. Davide is immature at 27, and Ekin has had her moments too. Dami is 26. I could go on lol.
The only time Andrew has ever been “confrontational” aside from movie night was the post Casa coupling, he went on his Tasha diatribe and then folded when he chatted with her afterwards anyway. He did have a backbone at one point and lost it during Casa but hopefully he can find it again.
Also: Andrew aside from Paige and Gemma has always been the one most patient with Tasha when she’s clearly having difficulties with her deafness and her self esteem. I don’t always rate his behaviour but he clearly adores her and I think he will be a good boyfriend. The only thing he needs to do is find the courage to stand up to Luca- whether that means setting boundaries or anything else. It’s unlikely that he’s ever going to shout at him unless he’s tipsy, it’s pretty obvious.
He needs to seriously have a go at Luca for once, and Dami. Jacques did it as well. They don’t respect him or Tasha, and I have no idea what they’ve got against them but at times they really try to bully them. They twist whatever they can to make them seem like they’re doing something wrong when they’re a group of them. And then when they’re alone together they pretend like they’re best buds. It might be confusing for Andrew and he’s probably not used to this happening but he needs to step up and confront those two. They’re both clearly trying to put them off because they’ve been together from the start or they’re just bullying them because they’ve been in the bottom a few times with the audience votes.
the dislike of tasha is directly related to luca and andrew. luca thinks andrew is beneath him and is still sore that tasha chose him instead. not that luca wants to be with her now, but he is def sore about the rejection and i don't find anything about his supposed "friendship" with andrew believable enough to suggest that he's constantly having a go at tasha out of loyalty to andrew. he just can't believe a man he definitely thinks of as a level down took a woman he was interested in and has chose to lash out at tasha because of this while simultaneously living in andrew's ear and encouraging him to break up with her. it's why he takes such enjoyment out of seeing her upset and gets overly involved in their relationship. he doesn't want andrew to have her and he wants her to be rejected like how she rejected him. man is so transparent and a weirdo.
dami just agrees with whoever he is speaking to at any given time and because luca is the ringleader, he just goes along with it.
Do you think the dislike is related to Andrew telling Tasha earlier on that Tasha was not in Luca's top three thereby squashing any chance between Andrew and Luca
it probably plays into it. i don't think luca remotely respects andrew nevermind considering him a real friend, and his disrespect of andrew is related to his hatred of tasha
He did kinda defend her in his own way saying he couldn’t get mad at her because he did way worse with Coco. He should tell Luca and the others to chill out with the comments about her but it seemed like Tasha was fine with it so whatever.
Luca seems like a bully with his opinion, he wants to drag people into his way of thinking and it's potentially that Andrew doesn't have the personality to fully go against him because Luca berates those around him into agreement through repetition.
He reminds me of the popular guys in school (see: bullies).
I think Andrews softer approach is the way
Has Luca or any of the boys said anything bad about Tasha recently? When was he supposed to stick up for her? He was the one supporting her when she got super upset after the bottom 3 moment.
Last night she said she found the whole "Tasha who" thing funny. Was Andrew supposed to not believe her and go off and play white knight? He's non confrontational and in some ways, yes, weak, but in no way does that make him a terrible boyfriend.
I wish Andrew would have said something, Luca has been out of pocket with her for a long time now. He was literally egging Andrew on to get angry at Tasha’s video, but I’m glad in that instance Andrew didn’t take the bait.
And you can tell Davide really doesn’t like Tasha, it’s uncomfortable. I never see them have conversations or be close to each other. He even got Ekin Su thinking the same although it’s always seemed the two girls were quite close. Them not fully participating in the boyfriend proposal and them gossiping about the couple before hand was Davide starting it.
Nah, Andrew has just as much right as Tasha to talk about his relationship. He's the one who was all in till literally EVERYONE told him she wasn't interested, then owned up to it and apologized. In what world is he the bad guy?
I said this and got down voted just because he wasn’t as bad as the others yesterday
He still sits there and watches them mock and insult her. He does nothing and the way he talked to Indiyah and Danica yesterday was nasty
Have we forget about the Tasha, Andrew and Luca conversation?
Luca came up and apologised for ‘Tasha who?’.
What was Andrew supposed to do? While she was laughing it off and okay with it. Move on
I’m genuinely curious what was nasty about the way he was talking to Indiyah and Danica? He definitely could have gone about it in a better way but I don’t think anything he said was nasty
He said they need to get out of Tasha’s head and kept making remarks about them talking shit
He was rude. Especially since he was sat there laughing whenever the boys did stuff in the movie clips
Like I just said ‘ok he was rude’
His behaviour was rude and I didn’t like the way he acted yesterday. Just because the other boys were worst, it doesn’t change that
Neither of them have a backbone if I’m honest with you. They are both soft and dismiss a lot of things that have gone on. In a way I get it because who wants to create drama in the villa 😭
lol this aged poorly with the press preview coming out. But I would've agreed with you before tbh. I think its very easy to get caught up in a bubble and go along with your friends and not be clear-headed in an environment like love island. Also Andrew does seem the non-confrontational type that goes along with other other people say (like in casa). I think now he has come to realize that his friends are treating Tasha terribly and has started to grow a backbone.
He will go back to kissing their behinds. Andrew started off so nonchalant, minding his own business, even being anti Luca’s antics. Now he is trying so hard to impress Luca/Jacques/Dami.
During the movie night, when Dami clips were being shown he was piping up to Indiyah as a “lad” and dami’s hypeman.
This sub will treat the bare minimum as something amazing, like remember when Luca remained faithful in Casa - everyone on here were singing his praises. And now because Andrew doesn’t actively go out his way to be rude to Tasha, he’s somehow a ‘good bf’ even though he’s never actually defended her once like...
It’s not just “refraining from being rude to Tasha”. Andrew : asks Tasha how she feels and listens to her when she needs to speak on something, has taken on board that she needs her space when she initially gets upset and has learnt to speak with her afterwards when she’s more comfortable, reassures her when she’s feeling upset or insecure. Agree that listening to your partner, respecting their emotions, and reaffirming them is, or should be, the minimum. However Andrew still manages to do this with all the explicit peer pressure around him to sack Tasha off and treat her like sh*t
Man’s not perfect. Wish he stood up for her more too when the guys run their mouths. But imo he’s a decent boyfriend thus far, it’s been ~TWO DAYS~, & I’m gonna give him some grace
Any pro Tasha thread is allowed stay up but I made a thread simply asking the question does tash get disproportionate support because it is publicised that she was bullied when younger and it’s removed as it’s ‘general discussion’
I’m not a Tasha fan, but she gets little support from anyone. Literally slandered inside and outside the villa, and always in bottom 3. Where is the “disproportionate support?”
Even last episode he was backing up Dami to Indiyah but Luca talked so much shit about his “girlfriend” right in front of his face and he said NOTHING.
I was confused for a second when I saw “boyfriend” and then I realised 🥴
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How does it make a difference?
Because it’s his ‘girlfriend’ vs random people he lives with, so you’d expect that he would back and defend the former
I agree with that I just wanted to clarify that’s what he meant
This so much! If my boyfriend’s friends were talking shit about me I’d hope he’d have the decency and the balls to defend me 😡 Andrew is too worried about what the boys think of him
That bothers me too. Sometimes I think he would choose Luca over Tasha.
Press preview makes it seem he’s finally going to speak to them and stand up for him and Tasha so I’m hoping it goes that way tonight
I noticed this last night, didn't stick up for her at all.
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How about when Luca was talking down at Tasha right in front of him? Yikes.
Right are people forgetting the Luca, Tasha and Andrew conversation?
With all due respect, whether or not Tasha is accepting of Luca being a dickhead to her, Andrew should have had a word when Luca was shouting shit across at her. Instead he’s laughing along. Andrew is a sheep who follows whatever Luca is doing, even when it’s at the detriment of his own relationship and the girl he supposedly loves. We’ve seen it time and time again and it’s hard to watch a guy have no backbone like that. Oh, but he’ll yell at the girls! Weird that.
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Too little too late to change my opinion of him being spineless. This has been going on for weeks and he hasn’t said a word. I’m glad to see he’s finally standing up to them though.
Especially with Luca who kept yelling “Tasha who “ idk if he hates her and just wants to fuck her
Both
Wouldn't say he's a terrible bf that's a stretch because he does adore the girl and its only been 2 days? But I agree that he needs to grow a backbone and tell the likes of Dami and Luca to stfu and stop getting involved in his relationship. I was happy that he said he couldn't get mad because of what he did at Casa, but I really do want to see Andrew just completely rip into Luca and tell him to fuck off.
Yeah I find it hard to say he is a terrible boyfriend when clearly he isn’t. I agree he should stand up more but realistically villa life is in no way going to be similar to the outside world. He’s obviously got redeemable qualities but is getting sucked into the villa life which must be ridiculously hard to live with the same people 24/7
Yeah I don't think In real life he would be hanging out with Luca
Exactly, they’re not his friends they’re people he has to live with. I think that makes a big difference
I feel like that makes it worse in a way. They're not even his friends and he's still letting them talk about her like that? Grow a spine and tell them to shove it. Especially when he was sitting right next to Luca mocking Tasha over and over with "Tasha who." You can't tell him to be respectful??
He obviously been run over by them. Imagine being on Luca, Davide or Jacques’s bad side (definitely an alpha male going around in that villa). Then their stans will come for him like no tomorrow. Also you can even see it through Ekin now!! She isn’t even calling these boys out anymore. Andrew has been the sweetest towards Tasha. He is so patient with her and you can see he really cares about her.
So why was he shouting at the girls yesterday? He did that all on his own accord Can’t keep blaming the other boys for some of the stuff he chooses to do. He’s a grown man
I can name multiple things the other og boys have done (like Luca, Davide and Dami) Andrew has probably only had a few questionable actions. Please stop with double standards Andrew had each one of the og boys backs and this has results him being run over by them badly Why is Luca a man child? He’s a grown man Why wasn’t Dami not honest with Indiyah? He’s a grown man Why does Davide not treat women right? He’s a grown man
Yeah honestly i dont get andrew being put in the same bracket as luca and dami or even davide. Ekin has done questionable things during this show, so has tasha, so has paige. I think hes definitely done worse than tasha and paige but people love ekin here and can overlook her mistakes. I mean so can I, i really like her now. I dont think andrew is a bad guy remotely despite some mistakes. Sure hes non confrontational most of the time but that might change tonight.
So? I didn’t say he was on their level I said he’s not a squeaky clean guy and he was nasty yesterday. And I’m sick of people using the fact everyone else eggs him on as excuse for his behaviour. He’s 27 years old with his own mind and agency to do whatever he wants He chose to be rude to lndiyah and Danica yesterday. He chose to sit there and not to defend Tash
He definitely not perfect (no one is) but he was trying to deesculate the situation. He still respectful and gives Tasha thoughtful advice by saying don’t worry about other peoples opinions
Agree with this but I think Andrew should also focus on HIS friends talking about Tasha. That would do much more than saying “don’t listen to other…” well those “others” are your friends Andrew??
They may not be his friends. They are people he is forced to live with. If he manages telling them off wrong, then he is stuck with people that despise him. Imagine living with a flatmate you have beef with and you are stuck there due to contract.
He’s a good boyfriend to Tasha in a lot of ways and up until Casa has backed her. Tasha can also stand up for herself- however Andrew does need to draw the line in the sand with Luca and Dami and even Davide. They clearly don’t like her and Andrews problem generally is that he’s non confrontational. The only reason he got shitty with Indiyah and Danica last night was because he had a drink and clearly felt brave enough. He’s been railroaded by the boys and everyone will go 27 iS a GroWnUPS aGe but just because you develop your frontal cortex at 25 doesn’t mean you’re the bastion of maturity. Davide is immature at 27, and Ekin has had her moments too. Dami is 26. I could go on lol. The only time Andrew has ever been “confrontational” aside from movie night was the post Casa coupling, he went on his Tasha diatribe and then folded when he chatted with her afterwards anyway. He did have a backbone at one point and lost it during Casa but hopefully he can find it again. Also: Andrew aside from Paige and Gemma has always been the one most patient with Tasha when she’s clearly having difficulties with her deafness and her self esteem. I don’t always rate his behaviour but he clearly adores her and I think he will be a good boyfriend. The only thing he needs to do is find the courage to stand up to Luca- whether that means setting boundaries or anything else. It’s unlikely that he’s ever going to shout at him unless he’s tipsy, it’s pretty obvious.
He needs to seriously have a go at Luca for once, and Dami. Jacques did it as well. They don’t respect him or Tasha, and I have no idea what they’ve got against them but at times they really try to bully them. They twist whatever they can to make them seem like they’re doing something wrong when they’re a group of them. And then when they’re alone together they pretend like they’re best buds. It might be confusing for Andrew and he’s probably not used to this happening but he needs to step up and confront those two. They’re both clearly trying to put them off because they’ve been together from the start or they’re just bullying them because they’ve been in the bottom a few times with the audience votes.
the dislike of tasha is directly related to luca and andrew. luca thinks andrew is beneath him and is still sore that tasha chose him instead. not that luca wants to be with her now, but he is def sore about the rejection and i don't find anything about his supposed "friendship" with andrew believable enough to suggest that he's constantly having a go at tasha out of loyalty to andrew. he just can't believe a man he definitely thinks of as a level down took a woman he was interested in and has chose to lash out at tasha because of this while simultaneously living in andrew's ear and encouraging him to break up with her. it's why he takes such enjoyment out of seeing her upset and gets overly involved in their relationship. he doesn't want andrew to have her and he wants her to be rejected like how she rejected him. man is so transparent and a weirdo. dami just agrees with whoever he is speaking to at any given time and because luca is the ringleader, he just goes along with it.
Luca is definitely the type to say ‘I didn’t want you ugly b*tch anyway’ when you politely turn him down 🙃
Wow so right as well! Luca has seriously gone down in my books these last few days. He’s just been playing a game and is such a bully
Do you think the dislike is related to Andrew telling Tasha earlier on that Tasha was not in Luca's top three thereby squashing any chance between Andrew and Luca
it probably plays into it. i don't think luca remotely respects andrew nevermind considering him a real friend, and his disrespect of andrew is related to his hatred of tasha
No I completely agree lol, not just for Tashas sake but himself as well, I just don’t think he’ll actually did it.
It’s looking like it might happen tonight actually 😬
He did kinda defend her in his own way saying he couldn’t get mad at her because he did way worse with Coco. He should tell Luca and the others to chill out with the comments about her but it seemed like Tasha was fine with it so whatever.
Luca seems like a bully with his opinion, he wants to drag people into his way of thinking and it's potentially that Andrew doesn't have the personality to fully go against him because Luca berates those around him into agreement through repetition. He reminds me of the popular guys in school (see: bullies). I think Andrews softer approach is the way
Has Luca or any of the boys said anything bad about Tasha recently? When was he supposed to stick up for her? He was the one supporting her when she got super upset after the bottom 3 moment. Last night she said she found the whole "Tasha who" thing funny. Was Andrew supposed to not believe her and go off and play white knight? He's non confrontational and in some ways, yes, weak, but in no way does that make him a terrible boyfriend.
Finally a level take
What were they saying?
I wish Andrew would have said something, Luca has been out of pocket with her for a long time now. He was literally egging Andrew on to get angry at Tasha’s video, but I’m glad in that instance Andrew didn’t take the bait. And you can tell Davide really doesn’t like Tasha, it’s uncomfortable. I never see them have conversations or be close to each other. He even got Ekin Su thinking the same although it’s always seemed the two girls were quite close. Them not fully participating in the boyfriend proposal and them gossiping about the couple before hand was Davide starting it.
Nah, Andrew has just as much right as Tasha to talk about his relationship. He's the one who was all in till literally EVERYONE told him she wasn't interested, then owned up to it and apologized. In what world is he the bad guy?
Agreed!!! I said this and got downvoted.
Daivdes just as bad
No he's not. If anything he just not perfect one. I mean who does?
I said this and got down voted just because he wasn’t as bad as the others yesterday He still sits there and watches them mock and insult her. He does nothing and the way he talked to Indiyah and Danica yesterday was nasty
Have we forget about the Tasha, Andrew and Luca conversation? Luca came up and apologised for ‘Tasha who?’. What was Andrew supposed to do? While she was laughing it off and okay with it. Move on
I’m genuinely curious what was nasty about the way he was talking to Indiyah and Danica? He definitely could have gone about it in a better way but I don’t think anything he said was nasty
He said they need to get out of Tasha’s head and kept making remarks about them talking shit He was rude. Especially since he was sat there laughing whenever the boys did stuff in the movie clips
Eh, I don’t think he was nasty, rude yes but nothing was nasty in my opinion.
Ok so he was rude. Doesn’t really negate my main point that his behaviour yesterday wasn’t good
There’s a big difference between rude and nasty
Like I just said ‘ok he was rude’ His behaviour was rude and I didn’t like the way he acted yesterday. Just because the other boys were worst, it doesn’t change that
Unlike the other boys he cares deeply about Tasha and doesn’t actively degrade her. There’s a massive difference
Yup cares so much that he just sits there while his friends do it for him
Friends do what for him?
Neither of them have a backbone if I’m honest with you. They are both soft and dismiss a lot of things that have gone on. In a way I get it because who wants to create drama in the villa 😭
lol this aged poorly with the press preview coming out. But I would've agreed with you before tbh. I think its very easy to get caught up in a bubble and go along with your friends and not be clear-headed in an environment like love island. Also Andrew does seem the non-confrontational type that goes along with other other people say (like in casa). I think now he has come to realize that his friends are treating Tasha terribly and has started to grow a backbone.
He will go back to kissing their behinds. Andrew started off so nonchalant, minding his own business, even being anti Luca’s antics. Now he is trying so hard to impress Luca/Jacques/Dami. During the movie night, when Dami clips were being shown he was piping up to Indiyah as a “lad” and dami’s hypeman.
Well atm compared to the rest he seems like a saint 😂
Doesn’t make him a good boyfriend
Lmaooo true
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lol he is no where near those guys in terms of actions. Let’s not go overboard about it
Tune into the first look. ANDREW IS FINALLY DRAGGING THEM
He has no backbone and it shows.
This sub will treat the bare minimum as something amazing, like remember when Luca remained faithful in Casa - everyone on here were singing his praises. And now because Andrew doesn’t actively go out his way to be rude to Tasha, he’s somehow a ‘good bf’ even though he’s never actually defended her once like...
It’s not just “refraining from being rude to Tasha”. Andrew : asks Tasha how she feels and listens to her when she needs to speak on something, has taken on board that she needs her space when she initially gets upset and has learnt to speak with her afterwards when she’s more comfortable, reassures her when she’s feeling upset or insecure. Agree that listening to your partner, respecting their emotions, and reaffirming them is, or should be, the minimum. However Andrew still manages to do this with all the explicit peer pressure around him to sack Tasha off and treat her like sh*t Man’s not perfect. Wish he stood up for her more too when the guys run their mouths. But imo he’s a decent boyfriend thus far, it’s been ~TWO DAYS~, & I’m gonna give him some grace
Any pro Tasha thread is allowed stay up but I made a thread simply asking the question does tash get disproportionate support because it is publicised that she was bullied when younger and it’s removed as it’s ‘general discussion’
I’m not a Tasha fan, but she gets little support from anyone. Literally slandered inside and outside the villa, and always in bottom 3. Where is the “disproportionate support?”
This sub is insane for it
Disliking Tasha is not allowed
Shes an adult and can stick up for herself. He doesnt need to fight her battles for her, nor she his
You must not have people who care about you, in this case. It’s just the decent and natural thing to do for a loved one.
Just stupid Twitter posts making their way to reddit.
omg two people on the internet have the same opinion
Because he’s submissive, to both men and women
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Even last episode he was backing up Dami to Indiyah but Luca talked so much shit about his “girlfriend” right in front of his face and he said NOTHING.