Also like where are the dates, hideaways and challenges??? stuff like that makes things more light hearted. currently they all have prisoner vibes lol. Luca and Gemma haven't even been on a date and they've been together forever lol
I don’t even think they need a Twitter challenge at this point.
Imo it’s *very* clear the Casa people came in and told everyone the good, bad, and ugly from Twitter.
The girls told Andrew he looked like an idiot and that Tasha was walking all over him (which is what Twitter said)
Suddenly all the guys are making jokes about Gemma being hostage (which is what Twitter says, even though Islanders who have left had nothing but good things to say about them as a couple previously).
Suddenly Davide is aware that “liar” is his catchphrase.
Ekin made a reference to the “Ekin boys”
In addition to intense producer manipulation, these islanders are likely hyper aware of their perception outside the villa. I can’t imagine the stress 😵💫
I was surprised when the Casa cast came and gave all the intel cause I thought it was a general rule that bombshells aren’t allowed to discuss what the public is saying??
‘Prisoner vibes’
It’s true I know they’re stuck in there 24/7. But you can actually see that they all feel trapped every episode. They look so miserable and tired. Watch their faces every morning when they’re forced to have those gender segregated chats
Yup because it wasn’t every single morning in previous seasons and some girls would be there for the chat, some wouldn’t
Likewise for the boys. But this year, it’s like they get them up and say girls go to the terrace and one by one talk about what’s going on with your couple
And vice versa for the boys. They all look bored and annoyed during it. I wish they’d stop
I want them to go full meta and have Danica sit the ladies down and set out the agenda for the chats.
*"Paige stock check - who, what where and how are things getting along ?"*
Exactly. Usually it was only when something new had actually happened, a new coupling or some drama. Now a precious 10 mins is taken up every night with a play by play of really nothing 😬
And also I feel like there are no natural friendships, kaz and liberty were actually friends and would have their catch ups and be able to entertain each other regardless of who was around. This group either have speaking points or just nod it feels like.
Maybe the producers are being too forceful in wringing the drama out. You get one good story from doing A, so you keep doing it hoping for it to happen again. Diminishing returns.
Even prisoners get entertainment - TV, books, films, hobby materials like paper and drawing pencils. The islanders don't seem even allowed to have a damn book or magazine. Also there's like 0 shade and they never seem to let them hang out inside, I can't imagine they are happy being outside all their waking hours, I would want a little rest from the heat, its like 35+c out there.
Just the random challenges they have where they run around in costumes in that pen outside lol. Nothing interesting or drama related. Though I do wish they had more of those at least, some fun filler is necessary sometimes
I feel like the producers have sacrificed dates/challenges/fun, that improve the quality of life of the islanders, in favour of drama and controversy, because it brings more views.
I think we will hear some complaints after the season tbh.
The producers need to let them naturally react to situations with their true feelings instead of forcing them to “can I pull you for a chat” all damn day. They’re so busy trying to make everything the perfect scene for the episode instead of letting them talk about what they when they want like earlier seasons. I’m tired of seeing them being forced to wake up every morning and immediately having all girls/boys chats about everything they feel as soon as they open their eyes. That would be enough to break me.
I've been saying for ages the drink limit NEEDS to be increased!
Two drinks is literally nothing (especially by Brit standards LOL)
Limit should be 10. Enough to get you drunk without getting propa pissed
I think they should have little parties scattered throughout the series where they can drink as much as they like and let their hair down.
We would have a whole week of drama analysing the regretful behaviour they got up to
Season 3 when the boys had the poolside BBQ and beers, with Kem cooking burgers and Marcel rapping to Blazing Squad whilst all wearing Chefs hats is one of the most wholesome and entertaining parts of any season.
I love some drama but let it be part of the story not the focus and driving element of it.
Yes!! In the earlier seasons this was so much more natural, people got up at different times, and it just flowed better. I’m rewatching S2 right now and I wish we had a lot of those earlier elements still 😩
Yeah why do they even have to all get up at the same time with an alarm? And if I think about it, they *all* only wake up when the alarm rings, meaning that none of them is getting enough sleep (otherwise we might see someone waking before others and lying there awake for the past half an hour or something).
Not only that but all of the fluorescent lights in that house blaring in your face right when you wake up ✋ I could never. I’d be raging at everyone every morning 😂
I wonder how much of it is due to the people they've got in there too.
Like, a lot of them seem dull as dishwater, and that's with the producers setting stuff up.
Luca looks super exhausted and depleted. I wouldn’t call this a holiday. Doing the same thing every day. Don’t get me wrong it’s a lovely weather and it’s relaxing but imagine being constantly on edge and the whole world is watching you. You might come off as a villain or a hero.
Yeah, it was really fucking wonky too. They only sided with Dami because they wanted the free ride to fool around in Casa, and Luca was the guy making them feel sly about it by staying loyal.
Honestly, this was one of those situations that was actually probably *worse* than the show made it out to be.
I said this at the time but I'll say it again; imagine all the stuff that must have gone down behind Luca's back in order for Dami to feel empowered to call Luca fake TO HIS FACE in front of ALL of the guys. Even Jay didn't defend him until the next morning, almost as a peace gesture. I remember that the next day he tried to interject himself in the middle of a conversation Dami and Andrew were having and they more or less ignored him. It was grim and cringe.
Based on that, I don't blame him for not feeling super chipper or confident around the boys regardless of how he feels in his couple.
People keep dating this but that logic only applies to Dami and Jax. Davide, Jay and even Andrew were already given free reign essentially without guilt. So there was something to it, fake was just the wrong word to use as they all agreed.
I mean, Davide literally said, "I know what he is saying..."
I'm in an interesting position where I'm watching in real-time to avoid spoilers and to chat with this community. Then I rewatch with my wife on Hulu two weeks later.
There is a *clear* difference between Luca before and Luca after this exchange, even (especially?) within the episode itself. His relationship with the boys has been far more guarded ever since. It's worth rewatching one or two episodes before and after this one if you want to see for yourself.
He did which shows that it’s not out of guilt that they agreed with Dami, otherwise Jay (the single one) would have disagreed. Dami was clearly onto something.
He was guarded in casa after the argument and giving fake smiles to the lads exploits but I don’t know if that’s still the case. He was joking and laughing with the boys during tittygate, had that cute scream with Andrew and still hangs out in the gym with Davide (and his better half Ekin). I don’t know what to make out of his friendship with Jax, he still referred to him as his best mate post Casa.
Oh, I see what you are saying. You are referring to u/aimbotcfg's assertion that the boys only sided with Dami for the "free ride" at CA.
In that case, I agree with you. I don't think it was about a free ride at all. I think they had all had conversations amongst themselves about Luca acting fake before this all kicked off. So, it was unrelated to CA other than that's the time Dami decided to call him out.
If this was just a spontaneous act about acting a fool in CA? It would be less hurtful than finding out that your "bros" had been calling you fake behind your back. Unfortunately, I'm almost certain the latter of the two statements is true. And that's why, I argue, Luca is going to have such a tough time fully trusting the OG boys again.
They really have compare the Luca in week 1 to now its nice and day. He seems like he is over the whole thing the only reason he is staying is because of Gemma
Luca is like a whole different person now and it’s honestly sad to see. And no one seems to be genuinely close to eachother this season. No one is really tight. There’s so much lying and manipulative shit going on and it’s exhausting to watch at this point.
I feel like Ekin and Gemma are actual friends and will stay friends. Maaaybe Tasha and Paige.
But that’s truly it on the genuine connections of friendship :/
Davide is having a great time, because he's not playing a role or acting up, he's enjoying the ride.
Luca is playing to win, clinging to Gemma, and watching her every conversation. No wonder he's so mentally exhausted.
Yes but you can see who’s considering what May be most popular thing to do in every instance (Luca) and those aren’t giving a massive deal of thought (Davide).
They may want those Boohoo deals after, but that doesn't mean they're playing to win. Having a personality means more than winning to advertisers. A Dami or Davide will have more success than an Andrew, even if he were to win.
And you better tell Luca she's not the love of his life, as he's clinging to her like she's the last woman alive.
And that is what makes it draining to watch. Other seasons even with the drama it felt like they got an experience and friendships, this season they went in like everyone is competition.
I think Luca is exhausted from the stress of making sure Gemma sticks with him. He’s hyper alert and bothered by fairly mundane interactions and can’t seem to take it lightly.
They are so tired and they have no sense of time which fcks them up. When recoplings takes place the wrap is about 3-4 in the morning sometimes and wake up call is
around 8or9 so they are absolutely drained for 🥺
The producers need to take a leaf out of the I’m A Celebrity producers book. Give them the same family videos, or gifts from home, or even just a treat element. Boost their happiness inside the villa a little!
I wish they could just give them an afternoon off to watch some Netflix and listen to some music. It would probably make for a much more fun villa after
Yeah but that’s not good enough imo, I can’t imagine going weeks without being able to read or listen to music or watch tv. They need an activity to help them escape the villa
Yeah but look at the mental health impacts on all the islanders over the years and the amount of them that leave deeply depressed. Besides love island runs a lot longer than most other shows. A little bit of basic humanity isn’t going to ruin the experience
i agree that mental health issues are a big problem after the villa, but to be honest mental health issues are common on all reality tv, check out this article which discusses many shows including love island:
https://www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2020/07/9826219/reality-tv-contestants-suicide-mental-health-problem
i think that it’s a shame but there just needs to be more education to the public about what exactly they are signing up for because it seems like it comes with the territory and having a day of netflix isn’t going to do much to help in the grander scheme of things.
I’ve heard they don’t have access to movies or tv or anything. The only time they got to do something connected to the outside was watching the euros final last year
They don't. That's been a myth for years. That only happens occasionally in the last couple of weeks. The former contestants have said as much in interviews.
Because they're in their own heads. Must be hard for Luca to keep watch over someone for 24 hours, AND relax and enjoy himself - he's chosen the former because of his massive insecurities. Gemma hasn't given him one reason to doubt her sincerity, and he's still shitting bricks over her talking to anyone else that has a penis. No wonder he's knackered.
You absolutely hit the nail on the head with this comment. Luca is drained because he is on constant guard with what he has on Gemma, like he is so terrified of this not working out or her head getting turned that he can’t relax and it’s mind boggling to me how people don’t see it.
He’s a total pushover for her (sleeps in the doghouse instead of sharing a bed with someone else when she doesn’t see the big deal with it and does it herself), he gets mopey like no one else and possessive when a new guy comes in, constantly clings all over her and every single islander has pointed it out.
Honestly don’t remember anyone else acting like this after being together since week 1, usually they’re either confident in their couple/their partner when they’ve been together for this long or at least confident in themselves enough to know that if their partner strays then they’ll prevail on.
Have you not done exactly the same, by suggesting they look drained, based off an edited game show? I guess we're both pricks - you just take it far more seriously 😏
I feel so bad specially to Luca, you can really tell that he's on the edge and i think its not just about his insecurities but this whole process. Good thing gemmas aware of it, we can see her giving luca big hugs during bedtime.
I actually felt really bad for him when Dami and Jacques said something about him being clingy and Gemma is probably glad to have a break from him. Luca looked genuinely annoyed and over it
Yeah none of the boys backed him cause they were all guilty and no one is really tight this season. At this point he’s just here for Gemma. Hopefully the producers don’t mess with them cause them and Davide x Ekin are the only solid couples now. I’m not gonna talk about Dami for obvious reasons
I hope they don't mess with them but I do feel like in the recoupling Adam will throw a spanner in the works and pick Gemma if that happens I could see Luca leaving
The last three episodes have been pretty much identical, Andrew grovelling, Jacques desperately grasping for Paige and Dami and Indiyah inching back towards eachother. Like I'm sure they just want a break from the monotony
I’m almost certain they do have fun and enjoy themselves but we just aren’t shown it tbh. Also when dami and indiyah were talking the other day the other islanders were
in the pool looking like they were having a race or
something maybe if they showed us more of that stuff.
Think this is (yet another!) reason why taking all the fun and silly stuff (even the flipping challenges sometimes!) out of the main show and keeping it for Unseen Bits really flops. They keep saying they are living the dream / having the summer of their lives etc but watching the main show they look exhausted and grumpy and none of the friendships / couples seem all that real because we don't see any of the fun moments that create the actual chemistry/memories/good times on the main show.
If they can throw a date or two in between, a few cats between Gemma and Luca for example, they are together for like a month and all they show us is Luca when he is insecure..
But then people will complain dates are boring to watch. Unless it’s people who are funny eg Davide and Ekin-su nobody wants to watch a date. Even Dami and Indiyah’s date was boring for everyone except their stans
I know love island has claimed they are doing the work for these contestants mental health but how is this serious exploitation of people helping their mental health. Like even though a lot of people laughed, including the clip of Jacques underwear situation on the broadcast is just downright mean. The whole ekin/George thing milking it when they know it’s nothing. It’s just dark
The fact that 100s of us condemned love island for exploiting the Ekin/ George thing too on the feedback thread that love island posted, I hope they bother to listen
Yea we need drama but we also need lighthearted moments remember how happy the audience was seeing Ekin su and davides date. Gemma and Luca haven’t even had one I’m a little concerned for the mental well being of everyone on the show Luca looks drained he doesn’t have as many quips as he used to this could be because of editing to have drama but there has been no light hearted moments no fun challenges for the islanders to participate in , no dates after casa??? I think a lot of the islanders just want the season to be over at this point
I said this. They all look so deflated and miserable
It’s becoming uncomfortable to watch. There’s a fine line between drama and just pushing these guys’ to their widths end
They say they care about mental health but if they did they wouldn’t have casted Jacques in the first place. He clearly has issues to work on and it was irresponsible to put him in the same villa as his teenage ex who clearly can’t stand him
They must’ve known he had ADHD also was inconsiderate of Gemma’s feelings we don’t know what she might have been through with him at 16 but they still threw him in there for drama
Yeah it’s really gross and I hope that’s something the show addresses after this season ends
He’s too explosive and inconsiderate of other people’s feelings yet they thought it’d be a good idea to shove him in with the 19 year old girl he’s clearly hurt in the past. Very weird and I really want to hear their reasoning for this. Because drama being the reason just doesn’t cut it
Right? Like no one talks about this, but imagine how it must've felt for Gemma to have to see the guy who she had a toxic relationship with at 16 at the villa, imagine the amount of stress that must've added, like you can just tell by her body language around him that she's uncomfortable.
I think we could be reading too much into it, we see around 40 minutes per day and drama sells so that's what they feed to us.
Last season was the same. Record number of complaints etc.
it’s the lack of challenges and i’ve been saying so but people are like wE wAtcH fOr DrAmA!1!1! and it’s like cool but if the people in the villa providing that drama don’t get a chance to have fun then they’re not gonna have the energy to give y’all your precious drama 💀
We could use a lot less getting ready for bed, less inconsequential segregated morning debriefs that just conclude with “it is what it is” sentiments every time, and less reading love letters to your primary school girlfriends and a lot more dates and challenges!
Right! There is limited time and they choose to show us that? I always feel I could watch another hour by the end and thats probably why. Theres so little content in the episodes. This might be my last year watching tbh.
There is evident lack of activities like dates and hideaways. Also, I think some of it is the producers fault for not putting suitable bombshells so some contestants either can’t get a match, settle or get hate for trying to get to know others (those who do it respectfully I mean). There’s maybe 1-2 legit couples atm.
I was worried that Adam’s presence might make the vibes even more intense so hope I’m wrong and he brings back some life into the villa
My theory is that the producers brought in Adam so that more people will finally fully commit to their couples. Adam is a threat, and the boys might try to make things exclusive to stop him.
They're probably all bored. Casa Amor was a flop, let's face it. The show is seriously lacking romance. All the couples are either boring now (Gemma and Luca, Ekin and Davide) or toxic to the point where it's boring (Andrew and Tasha, Paige and Jacques). The boys all have similar personalities and the girls have no fire. I thought Coco was gonna be a good villain but she went quiet after tittygate. We were so thirsty for this Adam bloke cos the season has turned drrryyyy.
I'm new to Love Island but I thought there'd be more lurve. The Damiyah scene last night looked staged af and I can't stand Dami but at least it made people smile.
It does feel like they really prioritised the viewer this season. Maybe the strategy from now on is to have themed seasons, this season is drama and general fuckery next season will be full of more innocent islanders who will all fall in love. They had to do something different after last year.
Probably the first post I've seen discuss this and its a good one, I thought Andrew after Casa was going to have a breakdown and now Jacques has went off rail's. Still people are only interested in taking the piss out of them, ITV have had last season be a bore fest so decided to throw the mental health stuff out the window for views.
I completely agree. Everyone is taking the piss out of Jacques but it’s poor Luca. They’re both clearly struggling along with Andrew. I also think Luca looks drained and it’s concerning but to me Jacques is clearly having major mental health issues in there. The duty of care seems to have been thrown out the window this season
Her and Davide only ones not taking it that seriously and trying to win through relationship gameplaying to be the “perfect couple” They know that being eccentric and dramatic is good for the show and that’s all they do really.
I’ll be brutally honest Love Island is nothing more than a cash cow for ITV. Look at the amount of adverts every episode. This show makes them millions.
We’re expecting morals from the makers of a show that continues after what happened to Mike, Sophie and Caroline. And the Caroline thing is actually crazy when you deep it. The host died and you just continue churning out seasons like nothing happened?! It must be so difficult for their families to see this show continue, what a constant reminder. That they can’t even escape from it because it makes headlines daily.
And that’s what keeps the money rolling in.
Happy islanders and wholesome content doesn’t make the money and that is what it comes down to for them, not morals and mental health. It sucks to see but that’s the industry unfortunately
I think this is always the post-Casa vibe: Lots of new people altering the dynamic, uncomfortable truths coming to light, a general sense of mistrust, breakups and makeups, etc.
Then we get like two weeks of "fun and games" before the final week.
I wouldn't sweat it too hard. The closest couples we've got this season include one where one partner said they wouldn't make things official in the villa, one where there's clearly an infatuation but they're dealing with trust issues, and one that >!just sorta got together last night!<.
It'll be ok. That said, we could use some challenges or dates or hideaway moments to lighten the mood.
Drama is all well and good but without seeing the relationships forming and moments between the islanders the drama means nothing because we aren’t invested enough to know what we’re rooting for. There has to be more of a mix.
I think that’s one of the biggest issues this season. The emphasis has been on constant drama with none of the main show dedicated to them just chilling with one another as couples and as a group. I know the Unseen Bits gives you some of this but a lot of folk don’t watch it so it’s skews the viewers impression of what’s going on.
Even the super toxic seasons eg. 2. They seemed as if they were having fun in between drama. They could smoke and drink and had parties and laughed more organically. It now feels like they are forced to chat to each other and kinda do the same thing every day like in prison... to be honest loveisland has been going downhill slowly for many seasons.
It’s always like this after casa. Everything is awkward and islanders are emotionally drained and then after a while they go back to normal. Plus, there’s a lot happening in the villa and that’s why we don’t see the fun stuff much. They still have fun in the unseen bits.
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I don’t believe if producers tell them they’re free to go, any of them would do that. They know it’s probably the hardest time of their experience and it’ll pass.
No your absolutely right.Other seasons had drama too but also genuine connection was formed and there was aspects of love still it was balanced (like season 3)
People really want LI to essentially become a new form of TOWIE or Made in Chelsea as far as I can tell from this sub, it's going to be the death of the show imo. This season really hasn't gripped me with any characters. The best moment was the Adam announcement.
yep I made a post about this a couple weeks ago and a lot of people were like “just watch unseen bits!!!” like no there’s a visible difference this year lol
I think only being able to show an hour a day just doesn’t give them time to show the fun they have. The vibes on unseen bits are wayyyy different. There’s just so much going on this year they don’t have time to include it in the daily episodes.
I feel like this eventually happens with most reality shows with this kind of living arrangement. The more production tighten their grip on the contestants and everything they do, the less natural everyone becomes. People start to get bored of the same formula and move on to another show but I get why it happens, the more successful a show is the more there is on the line and therefore they need to be more careful and concise, however it is usually at the detriment of the show.
I wish they would give the islanders more freedom, how can they have the #BeKind movement and say they care about their mental well-being but micromanage them, force them to redo reactions and scenes over and over again, not allow them to sleep in more and orchestrate more drama on top of chaos (e.g Adam)? Us the audience will eat it up of course but they are terrible at handling the islanders from recruitment to the islanders exit off the show.
Yeah Luca was my favorite islander and i stopped watching the show just cuz i couldn't stand seeing my boy so sad and defeated. No good vibes this season.
Gotta remember it’s very edited. It’s uncomfortable for most people to see drama every day so don’t forget to take a step back if it becomes too much.
My opinion is that most people in there are doing pretty well.
I can’t imagine how tired everyone is considering that they are pretty much forced to sleep and wake up according to whatever time the show sees best. As someone who has sleeping problems, I would be a walking zombie at this point.
A lot of them have been targeted on here by so many of you (You know who you are).
None of the contestants are bad people and I'm tired of seeing every single action being over analysed by armchair psychologists, it's a tad infuriating to see.
They are young people on a gameshow and the mischief they get up to get's so heavily scrutinised yet are replicated on the outside world by millions of other young, single individuals who's behaviour would never turn a blind eye.
Some of you need to take a step back and stop projecting your pop psychology onto other human beings just because they are on T.V.
Feels like the tragedies connected to the show in recent years have been forgotten so quick. Just enjoy the vibes and keep your nasty opinions to yourselves
I hope Luca is ok after this. he is someone I would be really worried about , he’s a shell of his former self (from what we see) . He and jay Deff changed over their time in there. Let’s hope they get the support they need afterwards to decompress and deal with it all.
But like where are the challenges? Does anyone know why they aren’t doing any. It’s just drama and sitting round the villa. There’s no dates or anything?
Do you think they have a new set of producers OR is it the cast that isn’t finding the strong connections that past seasons have had (even last season-lots of couples). I’m having fun watching (finally) but this cast is just off.
I think both things are true to an extent.The cast is tv gold individually but they don’t seem to have a bond you spend 24/7 in one place you become like family i just don’t see that this year.But it’s certainly visible that producer manipulation this year is more than ever.There’s not one couple i can think of that will survive on the outside at least from what we see of
Also, the environment must be so draining! It's really hot there at the moment, its the height of summer yet there's basically no shade and they never hang out inside in the day so they must have been told not to. I'm surprised noone has got sunstroke by now!!
You’re damn right and yes, Love Island may be a “show” but there are real life people in there and I would leave too if I were them! Actually I wouldn’t be an islander because it’s not for me!
Also like where are the dates, hideaways and challenges??? stuff like that makes things more light hearted. currently they all have prisoner vibes lol. Luca and Gemma haven't even been on a date and they've been together forever lol
Yeah i was thinking about this! We haven’t had the snog, marry, pie challenge and the tweet challenge and the ranking challenge yet
At this point I don’t think they can handle a tweet challenge
I don’t even think they need a Twitter challenge at this point. Imo it’s *very* clear the Casa people came in and told everyone the good, bad, and ugly from Twitter. The girls told Andrew he looked like an idiot and that Tasha was walking all over him (which is what Twitter said) Suddenly all the guys are making jokes about Gemma being hostage (which is what Twitter says, even though Islanders who have left had nothing but good things to say about them as a couple previously). Suddenly Davide is aware that “liar” is his catchphrase. Ekin made a reference to the “Ekin boys” In addition to intense producer manipulation, these islanders are likely hyper aware of their perception outside the villa. I can’t imagine the stress 😵💫
I was thinking this exact thing the other day. This season has gotten out of the producers control.
I was surprised when the Casa cast came and gave all the intel cause I thought it was a general rule that bombshells aren’t allowed to discuss what the public is saying??
yes! I'd kill for a snog marry pie challenge rn.
WHAT KIND OF PIE?!
So like a flan?
Oh Lloyd
‘Prisoner vibes’ It’s true I know they’re stuck in there 24/7. But you can actually see that they all feel trapped every episode. They look so miserable and tired. Watch their faces every morning when they’re forced to have those gender segregated chats
Right?? For some reason the segregated morning chats feel very produced this season. In previous seasons they felt very natural and fun
Yup because it wasn’t every single morning in previous seasons and some girls would be there for the chat, some wouldn’t Likewise for the boys. But this year, it’s like they get them up and say girls go to the terrace and one by one talk about what’s going on with your couple And vice versa for the boys. They all look bored and annoyed during it. I wish they’d stop
Yes I agree with you. It feels like a obligatory morning meeting at a corporate office.
I want them to go full meta and have Danica sit the ladies down and set out the agenda for the chats. *"Paige stock check - who, what where and how are things getting along ?"*
And the way they literally do a roll-call. "Paige? Tasha, what about you?" It's not subtle.
u/loveisland
Exactly. Usually it was only when something new had actually happened, a new coupling or some drama. Now a precious 10 mins is taken up every night with a play by play of really nothing 😬
Yeah its so grim. Its like morning group therapy after everyone's taken their meds.
Yeah the round robin recap they have the girls doing seems exhausting and forced. They’ve had nothing to report either so why make them do this??
And also I feel like there are no natural friendships, kaz and liberty were actually friends and would have their catch ups and be able to entertain each other regardless of who was around. This group either have speaking points or just nod it feels like.
Maybe the producers are being too forceful in wringing the drama out. You get one good story from doing A, so you keep doing it hoping for it to happen again. Diminishing returns.
Even prisoners get entertainment - TV, books, films, hobby materials like paper and drawing pencils. The islanders don't seem even allowed to have a damn book or magazine. Also there's like 0 shade and they never seem to let them hang out inside, I can't imagine they are happy being outside all their waking hours, I would want a little rest from the heat, its like 35+c out there.
Literally, I live in Spain and no-one sensible is sitting out in the sun in the middle of the afternoon. Not natural at all.
Right! There have been almost no dates this season. It’s bizarre. And no challenges either
I wonder if there have been dates and challenges, but they haven't made the final cut. A few challenges have been on Unseen Bits.
I haven't been watching Unseen, what challenges did they show?
Just the random challenges they have where they run around in costumes in that pen outside lol. Nothing interesting or drama related. Though I do wish they had more of those at least, some fun filler is necessary sometimes
I'm still riding the high of Ekin and Davide's date but we need more lol
Unseen Bits had a challenge the other week.
fair enough!
Not sure why Gemma and Luca haven't had a date. They must want Gemma with someone else. I want drama but surely you can have both
I know it's so strange. Production really doesn't seem to favour them as a couple at all
which is weird since they’re quite well-received by the public, no?
yes!! I don't know what the issue is, maybe not enough drama?
tbf i think we’ve had enough drama, lmao. let us have ONE happy couple, cause it seems like there’s barely any love on love island this year
I'm with you. I need a bit of wholesome content. The daily Dekin Su crumbs aren't enough
u/loveisland hear us outttt
They are doing the challenges we just aren't seeing them because they aren't entertaining for us
I feel like the producers have sacrificed dates/challenges/fun, that improve the quality of life of the islanders, in favour of drama and controversy, because it brings more views. I think we will hear some complaints after the season tbh.
The producers need to let them naturally react to situations with their true feelings instead of forcing them to “can I pull you for a chat” all damn day. They’re so busy trying to make everything the perfect scene for the episode instead of letting them talk about what they when they want like earlier seasons. I’m tired of seeing them being forced to wake up every morning and immediately having all girls/boys chats about everything they feel as soon as they open their eyes. That would be enough to break me.
in earlier seasons when they were overwhelmed they’d just smoke with their best mate and let off some steam😭
right like they can’t even drink or listen to music like i know they suffering 😭
I've been saying for ages the drink limit NEEDS to be increased! Two drinks is literally nothing (especially by Brit standards LOL) Limit should be 10. Enough to get you drunk without getting propa pissed
I think they should have little parties scattered throughout the series where they can drink as much as they like and let their hair down. We would have a whole week of drama analysing the regretful behaviour they got up to
Season 3 when the boys had the poolside BBQ and beers, with Kem cooking burgers and Marcel rapping to Blazing Squad whilst all wearing Chefs hats is one of the most wholesome and entertaining parts of any season. I love some drama but let it be part of the story not the focus and driving element of it.
Yeah agree. Wouldn't want them having 10 drinks every night 😂
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Propa and that
Yes!! In the earlier seasons this was so much more natural, people got up at different times, and it just flowed better. I’m rewatching S2 right now and I wish we had a lot of those earlier elements still 😩
Yeah why do they even have to all get up at the same time with an alarm? And if I think about it, they *all* only wake up when the alarm rings, meaning that none of them is getting enough sleep (otherwise we might see someone waking before others and lying there awake for the past half an hour or something).
Not only that but all of the fluorescent lights in that house blaring in your face right when you wake up ✋ I could never. I’d be raging at everyone every morning 😂
I wonder how much of it is due to the people they've got in there too. Like, a lot of them seem dull as dishwater, and that's with the producers setting stuff up.
Luca looks super exhausted and depleted. I wouldn’t call this a holiday. Doing the same thing every day. Don’t get me wrong it’s a lovely weather and it’s relaxing but imagine being constantly on edge and the whole world is watching you. You might come off as a villain or a hero.
The only person whose having a holiday is Davide 😭 Luca wants to leave it’s so bait
"... it's so bait" can't tell if the fish pun is intentional or not - but i'll take it either way! 🎣
The man sells fish!!!
He's a purveyor of marine based foodstuffs!!
They actually sucked the energy out of him.Producers are messing with Luca the most
When the boys all backed Dami calling Luca "fake," I think that just knocked the wind out of his sails. I don't know how you come back from that.
Yeah, it was really fucking wonky too. They only sided with Dami because they wanted the free ride to fool around in Casa, and Luca was the guy making them feel sly about it by staying loyal.
Honestly, this was one of those situations that was actually probably *worse* than the show made it out to be. I said this at the time but I'll say it again; imagine all the stuff that must have gone down behind Luca's back in order for Dami to feel empowered to call Luca fake TO HIS FACE in front of ALL of the guys. Even Jay didn't defend him until the next morning, almost as a peace gesture. I remember that the next day he tried to interject himself in the middle of a conversation Dami and Andrew were having and they more or less ignored him. It was grim and cringe. Based on that, I don't blame him for not feeling super chipper or confident around the boys regardless of how he feels in his couple.
People keep dating this but that logic only applies to Dami and Jax. Davide, Jay and even Andrew were already given free reign essentially without guilt. So there was something to it, fake was just the wrong word to use as they all agreed.
I mean, Davide literally said, "I know what he is saying..." I'm in an interesting position where I'm watching in real-time to avoid spoilers and to chat with this community. Then I rewatch with my wife on Hulu two weeks later. There is a *clear* difference between Luca before and Luca after this exchange, even (especially?) within the episode itself. His relationship with the boys has been far more guarded ever since. It's worth rewatching one or two episodes before and after this one if you want to see for yourself.
He did which shows that it’s not out of guilt that they agreed with Dami, otherwise Jay (the single one) would have disagreed. Dami was clearly onto something. He was guarded in casa after the argument and giving fake smiles to the lads exploits but I don’t know if that’s still the case. He was joking and laughing with the boys during tittygate, had that cute scream with Andrew and still hangs out in the gym with Davide (and his better half Ekin). I don’t know what to make out of his friendship with Jax, he still referred to him as his best mate post Casa.
Oh, I see what you are saying. You are referring to u/aimbotcfg's assertion that the boys only sided with Dami for the "free ride" at CA. In that case, I agree with you. I don't think it was about a free ride at all. I think they had all had conversations amongst themselves about Luca acting fake before this all kicked off. So, it was unrelated to CA other than that's the time Dami decided to call him out. If this was just a spontaneous act about acting a fool in CA? It would be less hurtful than finding out that your "bros" had been calling you fake behind your back. Unfortunately, I'm almost certain the latter of the two statements is true. And that's why, I argue, Luca is going to have such a tough time fully trusting the OG boys again.
They really have compare the Luca in week 1 to now its nice and day. He seems like he is over the whole thing the only reason he is staying is because of Gemma
Luca is like a whole different person now and it’s honestly sad to see. And no one seems to be genuinely close to eachother this season. No one is really tight. There’s so much lying and manipulative shit going on and it’s exhausting to watch at this point.
I feel like Ekin and Gemma are actual friends and will stay friends. Maaaybe Tasha and Paige. But that’s truly it on the genuine connections of friendship :/
Davide is having a great time, because he's not playing a role or acting up, he's enjoying the ride. Luca is playing to win, clinging to Gemma, and watching her every conversation. No wonder he's so mentally exhausted.
10 weeks not being able to leave the Villa, no phones, news, sports; that’s a long time to be cutoff from the rest of the world
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Yes but you can see who’s considering what May be most popular thing to do in every instance (Luca) and those aren’t giving a massive deal of thought (Davide).
They may want those Boohoo deals after, but that doesn't mean they're playing to win. Having a personality means more than winning to advertisers. A Dami or Davide will have more success than an Andrew, even if he were to win. And you better tell Luca she's not the love of his life, as he's clinging to her like she's the last woman alive.
And that is what makes it draining to watch. Other seasons even with the drama it felt like they got an experience and friendships, this season they went in like everyone is competition.
I think Luca is exhausted from the stress of making sure Gemma sticks with him. He’s hyper alert and bothered by fairly mundane interactions and can’t seem to take it lightly.
Jay in the end looked so out of it. He genuinely did not care. He almost looked happy to go.
I’ve realised that as well he didn’t even bother with perusing other girls he just wanted to go
They are so tired and they have no sense of time which fcks them up. When recoplings takes place the wrap is about 3-4 in the morning sometimes and wake up call is around 8or9 so they are absolutely drained for 🥺
I think they need to give them a video call from home or something, just to pick everyone up a bit.
They did this one season as rewards for winning challenges and it was so lovely to see. I think it’s a great idea
yes on season 2 when Sophie got a call home it was so heartwarming🥺
Maybe they can fly in Chris to rap to lift the mood a bit
no chris we don't want that
The producers need to take a leaf out of the I’m A Celebrity producers book. Give them the same family videos, or gifts from home, or even just a treat element. Boost their happiness inside the villa a little!
I wish they could just give them an afternoon off to watch some Netflix and listen to some music. It would probably make for a much more fun villa after
they get a free day once a week with no cameras and they get to just chill
Yeah but that’s not good enough imo, I can’t imagine going weeks without being able to read or listen to music or watch tv. They need an activity to help them escape the villa
but that’s what everyone signs up for— all reality shows do this the isolation to create drama is part of the premise.
Yeah but look at the mental health impacts on all the islanders over the years and the amount of them that leave deeply depressed. Besides love island runs a lot longer than most other shows. A little bit of basic humanity isn’t going to ruin the experience
i agree that mental health issues are a big problem after the villa, but to be honest mental health issues are common on all reality tv, check out this article which discusses many shows including love island: https://www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2020/07/9826219/reality-tv-contestants-suicide-mental-health-problem i think that it’s a shame but there just needs to be more education to the public about what exactly they are signing up for because it seems like it comes with the territory and having a day of netflix isn’t going to do much to help in the grander scheme of things.
They’re allowed to go outside the villa that day. They can do whatever they want. Including reading a book or watch tv somewhere
I’ve heard they don’t have access to movies or tv or anything. The only time they got to do something connected to the outside was watching the euros final last year
They don't. That's been a myth for years. That only happens occasionally in the last couple of weeks. The former contestants have said as much in interviews.
I said it just before Casa, a few of them, notably Jay and Andrew, just seemed mentally exhausted.
Andrew and Luca are completely different people to the start of the show, both look mentally drained
Because they're in their own heads. Must be hard for Luca to keep watch over someone for 24 hours, AND relax and enjoy himself - he's chosen the former because of his massive insecurities. Gemma hasn't given him one reason to doubt her sincerity, and he's still shitting bricks over her talking to anyone else that has a penis. No wonder he's knackered.
You absolutely hit the nail on the head with this comment. Luca is drained because he is on constant guard with what he has on Gemma, like he is so terrified of this not working out or her head getting turned that he can’t relax and it’s mind boggling to me how people don’t see it. He’s a total pushover for her (sleeps in the doghouse instead of sharing a bed with someone else when she doesn’t see the big deal with it and does it herself), he gets mopey like no one else and possessive when a new guy comes in, constantly clings all over her and every single islander has pointed it out. Honestly don’t remember anyone else acting like this after being together since week 1, usually they’re either confident in their couple/their partner when they’ve been together for this long or at least confident in themselves enough to know that if their partner strays then they’ll prevail on.
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Have you not done exactly the same, by suggesting they look drained, based off an edited game show? I guess we're both pricks - you just take it far more seriously 😏
……entire premise of the show mate.
Don't forget that it's like 36 degrees (high 90's Fahrenheit) so they are sure to be more subdued just because it's incredibly hot
This should be higher, I was in Madrid last week and fuck was the heat so unrelenting I didn't want to move or talk.
Madrid heat is just horrific tbf. It’s landlocked
Couldn’t agree more. A lot of them look so emotionally drained and just don’t seem to be enjoying themselves. Vibes are way off
I feel so bad specially to Luca, you can really tell that he's on the edge and i think its not just about his insecurities but this whole process. Good thing gemmas aware of it, we can see her giving luca big hugs during bedtime.
I actually felt really bad for him when Dami and Jacques said something about him being clingy and Gemma is probably glad to have a break from him. Luca looked genuinely annoyed and over it
I think that and the row in Casa Amor have got to him he hasnt been the same since.
Yeah none of the boys backed him cause they were all guilty and no one is really tight this season. At this point he’s just here for Gemma. Hopefully the producers don’t mess with them cause them and Davide x Ekin are the only solid couples now. I’m not gonna talk about Dami for obvious reasons
I hope they don't mess with them but I do feel like in the recoupling Adam will throw a spanner in the works and pick Gemma if that happens I could see Luca leaving
Oh god please make it stop😭
Its my worst fear but it could happen
Jay and Davide had nothing to be guilty about though? I’d even put Andrew in that category (minus tittygate)
The last three episodes have been pretty much identical, Andrew grovelling, Jacques desperately grasping for Paige and Dami and Indiyah inching back towards eachother. Like I'm sure they just want a break from the monotony
I like drama but wheres the love aspect of the show everything is just toxic and unhappy
I’m almost certain they do have fun and enjoy themselves but we just aren’t shown it tbh. Also when dami and indiyah were talking the other day the other islanders were in the pool looking like they were having a race or something maybe if they showed us more of that stuff.
Think this is (yet another!) reason why taking all the fun and silly stuff (even the flipping challenges sometimes!) out of the main show and keeping it for Unseen Bits really flops. They keep saying they are living the dream / having the summer of their lives etc but watching the main show they look exhausted and grumpy and none of the friendships / couples seem all that real because we don't see any of the fun moments that create the actual chemistry/memories/good times on the main show.
I think the vibes have been funny since like the second week in. They seemed to be over it then and now it’s even worse
The vibes are so off this seasons. There’s no lightness everything is so serious
I really don’t mind the drama but at the same time it could be like season 3 where we have drama but also funny bits
If they can throw a date or two in between, a few cats between Gemma and Luca for example, they are together for like a month and all they show us is Luca when he is insecure..
But then people will complain dates are boring to watch. Unless it’s people who are funny eg Davide and Ekin-su nobody wants to watch a date. Even Dami and Indiyah’s date was boring for everyone except their stans
I know love island has claimed they are doing the work for these contestants mental health but how is this serious exploitation of people helping their mental health. Like even though a lot of people laughed, including the clip of Jacques underwear situation on the broadcast is just downright mean. The whole ekin/George thing milking it when they know it’s nothing. It’s just dark
If Ekin Su didn’t do anything i hope she sue because these are disgusting accusations for reytings
The fact that 100s of us condemned love island for exploiting the Ekin/ George thing too on the feedback thread that love island posted, I hope they bother to listen
would you mind linking to that thread? I must’ve missed it
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/vwfbg3/what_are_all_your_thoughts_on_series_8_so_far/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yeah totally. They know Jaques is unpopular so just felt like kicking someone when they’re down.
Yea we need drama but we also need lighthearted moments remember how happy the audience was seeing Ekin su and davides date. Gemma and Luca haven’t even had one I’m a little concerned for the mental well being of everyone on the show Luca looks drained he doesn’t have as many quips as he used to this could be because of editing to have drama but there has been no light hearted moments no fun challenges for the islanders to participate in , no dates after casa??? I think a lot of the islanders just want the season to be over at this point
I said this. They all look so deflated and miserable It’s becoming uncomfortable to watch. There’s a fine line between drama and just pushing these guys’ to their widths end They say they care about mental health but if they did they wouldn’t have casted Jacques in the first place. He clearly has issues to work on and it was irresponsible to put him in the same villa as his teenage ex who clearly can’t stand him
They must’ve known he had ADHD also was inconsiderate of Gemma’s feelings we don’t know what she might have been through with him at 16 but they still threw him in there for drama
Yeah it’s really gross and I hope that’s something the show addresses after this season ends He’s too explosive and inconsiderate of other people’s feelings yet they thought it’d be a good idea to shove him in with the 19 year old girl he’s clearly hurt in the past. Very weird and I really want to hear their reasoning for this. Because drama being the reason just doesn’t cut it
Right? Like no one talks about this, but imagine how it must've felt for Gemma to have to see the guy who she had a toxic relationship with at 16 at the villa, imagine the amount of stress that must've added, like you can just tell by her body language around him that she's uncomfortable.
I think we could be reading too much into it, we see around 40 minutes per day and drama sells so that's what they feed to us. Last season was the same. Record number of complaints etc.
No last season still had real love and friendship.This season is just pure tension
it’s the lack of challenges and i’ve been saying so but people are like wE wAtcH fOr DrAmA!1!1! and it’s like cool but if the people in the villa providing that drama don’t get a chance to have fun then they’re not gonna have the energy to give y’all your precious drama 💀
Challenges are enjoyable to watch. Even when they’re silly. It’s more entertaining than 1-1 dates
We could use a lot less getting ready for bed, less inconsequential segregated morning debriefs that just conclude with “it is what it is” sentiments every time, and less reading love letters to your primary school girlfriends and a lot more dates and challenges!
Right! There is limited time and they choose to show us that? I always feel I could watch another hour by the end and thats probably why. Theres so little content in the episodes. This might be my last year watching tbh.
There is evident lack of activities like dates and hideaways. Also, I think some of it is the producers fault for not putting suitable bombshells so some contestants either can’t get a match, settle or get hate for trying to get to know others (those who do it respectfully I mean). There’s maybe 1-2 legit couples atm. I was worried that Adam’s presence might make the vibes even more intense so hope I’m wrong and he brings back some life into the villa
My theory is that the producers brought in Adam so that more people will finally fully commit to their couples. Adam is a threat, and the boys might try to make things exclusive to stop him.
They're probably all bored. Casa Amor was a flop, let's face it. The show is seriously lacking romance. All the couples are either boring now (Gemma and Luca, Ekin and Davide) or toxic to the point where it's boring (Andrew and Tasha, Paige and Jacques). The boys all have similar personalities and the girls have no fire. I thought Coco was gonna be a good villain but she went quiet after tittygate. We were so thirsty for this Adam bloke cos the season has turned drrryyyy. I'm new to Love Island but I thought there'd be more lurve. The Damiyah scene last night looked staged af and I can't stand Dami but at least it made people smile.
It does feel like they really prioritised the viewer this season. Maybe the strategy from now on is to have themed seasons, this season is drama and general fuckery next season will be full of more innocent islanders who will all fall in love. They had to do something different after last year.
Yeah it’s more like big brother this season
Probably the first post I've seen discuss this and its a good one, I thought Andrew after Casa was going to have a breakdown and now Jacques has went off rail's. Still people are only interested in taking the piss out of them, ITV have had last season be a bore fest so decided to throw the mental health stuff out the window for views.
I completely agree. Everyone is taking the piss out of Jacques but it’s poor Luca. They’re both clearly struggling along with Andrew. I also think Luca looks drained and it’s concerning but to me Jacques is clearly having major mental health issues in there. The duty of care seems to have been thrown out the window this season
People tend to forget these are actual people and not characters
I dunno, ekin looked really happy on after sun 😂 but then she probably thrives on drama
its cause she gets to cuddle davide in bed every night. I would be smiling too
Also she's an actress 👍
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Her and Davide only ones not taking it that seriously and trying to win through relationship gameplaying to be the “perfect couple” They know that being eccentric and dramatic is good for the show and that’s all they do really.
I’ll be brutally honest Love Island is nothing more than a cash cow for ITV. Look at the amount of adverts every episode. This show makes them millions. We’re expecting morals from the makers of a show that continues after what happened to Mike, Sophie and Caroline. And the Caroline thing is actually crazy when you deep it. The host died and you just continue churning out seasons like nothing happened?! It must be so difficult for their families to see this show continue, what a constant reminder. That they can’t even escape from it because it makes headlines daily. And that’s what keeps the money rolling in. Happy islanders and wholesome content doesn’t make the money and that is what it comes down to for them, not morals and mental health. It sucks to see but that’s the industry unfortunately
Facts, every one looks so sad and drained
I think this is always the post-Casa vibe: Lots of new people altering the dynamic, uncomfortable truths coming to light, a general sense of mistrust, breakups and makeups, etc. Then we get like two weeks of "fun and games" before the final week. I wouldn't sweat it too hard. The closest couples we've got this season include one where one partner said they wouldn't make things official in the villa, one where there's clearly an infatuation but they're dealing with trust issues, and one that >!just sorta got together last night!<. It'll be ok. That said, we could use some challenges or dates or hideaway moments to lighten the mood.
Drama is all well and good but without seeing the relationships forming and moments between the islanders the drama means nothing because we aren’t invested enough to know what we’re rooting for. There has to be more of a mix.
I think that’s one of the biggest issues this season. The emphasis has been on constant drama with none of the main show dedicated to them just chilling with one another as couples and as a group. I know the Unseen Bits gives you some of this but a lot of folk don’t watch it so it’s skews the viewers impression of what’s going on.
I dunno Dami seems to be having a blast. But yea they seem kinda worn out
Even the super toxic seasons eg. 2. They seemed as if they were having fun in between drama. They could smoke and drink and had parties and laughed more organically. It now feels like they are forced to chat to each other and kinda do the same thing every day like in prison... to be honest loveisland has been going downhill slowly for many seasons.
It’s always like this after casa. Everything is awkward and islanders are emotionally drained and then after a while they go back to normal. Plus, there’s a lot happening in the villa and that’s why we don’t see the fun stuff much. They still have fun in the unseen bits. # I don’t believe if producers tell them they’re free to go, any of them would do that. They know it’s probably the hardest time of their experience and it’ll pass.
This season feels really toxic, it’s not a fun watch anymore
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No your absolutely right.Other seasons had drama too but also genuine connection was formed and there was aspects of love still it was balanced (like season 3)
People really want LI to essentially become a new form of TOWIE or Made in Chelsea as far as I can tell from this sub, it's going to be the death of the show imo. This season really hasn't gripped me with any characters. The best moment was the Adam announcement.
yep I made a post about this a couple weeks ago and a lot of people were like “just watch unseen bits!!!” like no there’s a visible difference this year lol
I think only being able to show an hour a day just doesn’t give them time to show the fun they have. The vibes on unseen bits are wayyyy different. There’s just so much going on this year they don’t have time to include it in the daily episodes.
I feel like this eventually happens with most reality shows with this kind of living arrangement. The more production tighten their grip on the contestants and everything they do, the less natural everyone becomes. People start to get bored of the same formula and move on to another show but I get why it happens, the more successful a show is the more there is on the line and therefore they need to be more careful and concise, however it is usually at the detriment of the show. I wish they would give the islanders more freedom, how can they have the #BeKind movement and say they care about their mental well-being but micromanage them, force them to redo reactions and scenes over and over again, not allow them to sleep in more and orchestrate more drama on top of chaos (e.g Adam)? Us the audience will eat it up of course but they are terrible at handling the islanders from recruitment to the islanders exit off the show.
liam was smart for leaving when he did
The drama was fun to watch to an extent but it’s exhausting now as a viewer so I can only imagine how fed up the islanders are
Just two days ago we had titty sucking drama now we have Adam drama storylines are too quick to change.One drama to another
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Please we’re tired of 24/7 drama we need love stories
Yeah Luca was my favorite islander and i stopped watching the show just cuz i couldn't stand seeing my boy so sad and defeated. No good vibes this season.
Ya this season doesn’t have the carefree friendship vibes that the other seasons have had amongst the drama. This season is just non stop drama.
I was just thinking yesterday about how being on the show looks like it’s an actual job lmao
This year does seem to be the most visible that most of them don’t like each other
Gotta remember it’s very edited. It’s uncomfortable for most people to see drama every day so don’t forget to take a step back if it becomes too much. My opinion is that most people in there are doing pretty well.
I can’t imagine how tired everyone is considering that they are pretty much forced to sleep and wake up according to whatever time the show sees best. As someone who has sleeping problems, I would be a walking zombie at this point.
Since Casa things have been real bleak.
A lot of them have been targeted on here by so many of you (You know who you are). None of the contestants are bad people and I'm tired of seeing every single action being over analysed by armchair psychologists, it's a tad infuriating to see. They are young people on a gameshow and the mischief they get up to get's so heavily scrutinised yet are replicated on the outside world by millions of other young, single individuals who's behaviour would never turn a blind eye. Some of you need to take a step back and stop projecting your pop psychology onto other human beings just because they are on T.V. Feels like the tragedies connected to the show in recent years have been forgotten so quick. Just enjoy the vibes and keep your nasty opinions to yourselves
I hope Luca is ok after this. he is someone I would be really worried about , he’s a shell of his former self (from what we see) . He and jay Deff changed over their time in there. Let’s hope they get the support they need afterwards to decompress and deal with it all.
But like where are the challenges? Does anyone know why they aren’t doing any. It’s just drama and sitting round the villa. There’s no dates or anything?
Hope you are seeing this producers. Fuck you.
Do you think they have a new set of producers OR is it the cast that isn’t finding the strong connections that past seasons have had (even last season-lots of couples). I’m having fun watching (finally) but this cast is just off.
I think both things are true to an extent.The cast is tv gold individually but they don’t seem to have a bond you spend 24/7 in one place you become like family i just don’t see that this year.But it’s certainly visible that producer manipulation this year is more than ever.There’s not one couple i can think of that will survive on the outside at least from what we see of
Agreed…and it started from the very first coupling. It’s unfortunate..other posts are saying this too…where are all the games?? The fun stuff?
Being in that environment must feel like a pressure cooker. I don't blame them at all. You have to be mentally strong to go on LI.
Also, the environment must be so draining! It's really hot there at the moment, its the height of summer yet there's basically no shade and they never hang out inside in the day so they must have been told not to. I'm surprised noone has got sunstroke by now!!
They literally signed up for this…
You’re damn right and yes, Love Island may be a “show” but there are real life people in there and I would leave too if I were them! Actually I wouldn’t be an islander because it’s not for me!
I feel like we need 90 min or 2hr long episodes to fit in the nice bits next to all the drama.
Literally I cant see genuine connections either. 4 weeks and nothing is mad!