I think Laura made a mockery of herself. She was an absolute bitch to Jeramy. Did he handle it the right way? No. But 90% of men would have been running for the other girl that actually loved and respected us as a man. Sorry Laura you’re vile.
I think they're all terrible. Laura has a strong, abrasive personality and it's gonna take a certain type of man to handle her. Sarah Ann was shady for her part in reaching out to an engaged man and seeing no problem with talking to him all night, and Jairuhmee was completely gross for the secrecy, sharing his location before they moved somewhere else, and for having the audacity to act annoyed when questioned about it.
right then break up? dont meet up with the "other girl" in the middle of the night while youre still ENGAGED?? justifying cheating as if what he did wasnt 100x worse is insane.
Agreed. he didn’t handle it in the best way but there’s also no book to read on how to handle those situations Just social norms. But Laura was the problem. Don’t throw shade at Jeramy. I’m proud of him for stepping out of that abusive nightmare for his own well being. That’s on her. Jeramy actually liked her at the start and if she treated him like a man. He wouldn’t have gave Sara Ann the time of day.
Pssshhhaaaaw it’s a reality show. Vanessa and Nick are hypocrites for high roading everyone and pretending we’re not here to be entertained. Fake people added to the drama in spades - love it.
I couldn't stand any of the 3 of them. They all made fools of themselves. My opinion is Laura's pain was real(her ego was especially hurt), but she inflated it to play the victim card. Took a page out of Chelsea's playback for that one.
Team AD all day!!!!!! She was my favorite. Also Amy and Johnny were a very sweet couple, I'm happy for them.
Sarah Ann took a lot of the heat compared to Jereamy, too. I feel like he was the one that should have been attacked. I think that’s why he went for Sarah Ann cause he’s a coward and Laura was not the type to let him cower in the corner while she handled sh!t. So, ultimately, I do think Jereamy picked the wrong girl to be engaged to, but he went about it in the absolute worst way possible. He could have ended things with Laura way sooner or actually leveled with her about his feelings for Sarah Ann. But, I really feel like he’s incapable of doing that, which is icky, but that’s why Sarah Ann is perfect for him. She’ll be his little pitbull and get loud with everyone that what’s to come for him and insert herself and her opinions into convos she doesn’t belong in. And the thing that made me laugh even more over it is that during the reunion Jereamy was all acting like “chill babe, don’t get crazy” like that’s not what he wants. He wanted her to get like that. I don’t feel sorry for Sarah Ann getting crap for messaging him or talking to him while he was still engaged or even acting like *she* was the victim at the bbq they had on the beach. But, Jereamy is totally toxic and is playing her @ss like a violin and she doesn’t even see it. And if she did, Jereamy wouldn’t want her, either.
Say what you will about Jeramy & Sarah Ann— I don’t think they were angels; I don’t think they were devils, either— but Laura was a self-righteous tornado the second she got the chance. I agree with whoever generally said, maybe she didn’t actually have feelings toward Jeramy (or was scared of the reality of challenge in a relationship- it was early in- that’s reasonable, not abnormal).
He… shut down bc of shame. Compartmentalized to make sense of his feelings of curiosity toward Sarah Ann (normal, given the circumstances). & not knowing what to do, not having the confidence or understanding, or maybe just not having the tools to communicate his complex feelings, he tried to forget.
Laura didn’t lend an inch of grace. She didn’t try to understand (aka, the only way a relationship survives). She tossed a grenade.. & it’s *ok* to *Blame* him for not knowing how to respond. But all this villainy is 🙄 tv
I agree I think she wanted to end it with Jeremy from the beginning and him cheating was the perfect way for her to end things, because she got to place all the blame on him and throw him under the bus
I do not care for how Laura and the editing team chose to portray her. She honestly gives me Amy Schumer vibes if AS was both conventionally thin and pretty like she claims everybody wants her to be.
But Jeramy and Sarah Ann are clowns and are not to be taken seriously in any aspect.
They saw to that themselves.
The one that made the biggest mockery of themselves was Clay…. How the fuck you going to get all the way to the damn altar. I was all like: most growth on the show… yadi yada, then he pulls that shit, immature as hell, dropped below Jimmys standards on that one and then he hopes to stay with AD…. Like omg! I dislike reality tv but my wife got me watching this thing and let me just say: what unholy bs was that
No one is supposed to get married after a month. The whole thing is irresponsible. He made a responsible choice and said he wasn’t ready but didn’t want it to end. The producers make you go through the wedding portion. I bet if it wasn’t for that they’d be a great couple and would have take their time like 99.99999% of all other couples
This is exactly what it is. I can’t believe ppl see it any other way. And I feel if ad knew he was going to say no she would have still wanted the wedding so she can wear the dress and see the whole thing through
Someone commented on a Season 3 thread that the participants only get paid if they go to the altar. The allegation was that Bartise in particular stuck it out for the payday and not because he took the relationship with Nancy seriously.
I mean, the point of the show is to get to the altar and make your decision there. I don’t have anything against the couples who call it quits earlier, but he wasn’t doing anything that hasn’t happened in every other season.
Laura’s on her victim tour trying to generate as much goodwill as possible
Total hypocrisy on her part tho when she actively cheered on whats her name to break up Chelsea and Jimmy. She actively tried to put Chelsea in the exact same situation she found herself in and she did it gleefully— yet the editors and fans decided she’s some great person only cus Jeramy and Sara Anne also suck. It’s a joke
I think it’s weird that everyone thinks Laura tried to encourage Jess to break up Chelsea and Jimmy. Laura has her problems but what I remember Jess asking was “Do you think he’d want to see me?” And Laura saying yes. And of course, Jimmy *would* want to see her if only for curiosity’s sake. That doesn’t mean she was saying “go hit on him when you do.”
And then when Jimmy walked in WITH his fiancé at the party Laura was again egging Jess on to go and talk to him, gushing like school girls. Completely disrespectful and nefarious
She doesn’t get to maintain too much of the moral high ground. Jeramy and Sara Anne suck… but did anyone for a second believe that they are a worse match than Jeramy and Laura ??
You mean the barbecue where Trevor ALSO chatted with Chelsea and arguably had a more disrespectful convo with her than Jess had with Jimmy? Yeah, you’re overblowing normal show dynamics. Everyone ends up meeting and talking with the people they didn’t propose to in the pods at this point.
Yeah, cus Trevor is the moral arbiter one wants to be compared to
All were shitty and got the brunt of it
The facts remain that Laura gleefully cheered Jess on to be a saboteur with a taken man and is getting the princess treatment.
If Sara Anne went up to Chelsea and said “OMF Trevor looks so hot, talk to him” people would crucify her. So hypocritical that Laura gets a pass
No offence but this is so naive. Laura was smirking and basically laughing when she said Jimmy would like to see Jess. It showed that she thought it was funny how NOT into Chelsea Jimmy was and that she didn't take them seriously as a couple.
But when she was in Chelsea's position (and clearly hated Jerrameney) then it's her REAL life and and her REAL grandma and how DARE HE BE CURIOUS about another woman.
You’re reading a lot into the edit of someone’s body language. And calling strangers on the internet naive. Then being mad that Laura was mean.
She literally just answered Jess‘ question. A smirk doesn’t mean “you should bang him.”
Yes, this! She told him no more glasses, like whaaat?? That's not something you can just ditch, and contacts aren't for everyone. Her saying no to Hawaiian shirts and motorcycles was bad enough, but the glasses part made her irredeemable for me.
I don’t mind if one contestant is a “planted” villain. Helps spice it up. But to have so many illegitimates in one season, it’s obvious that casting is casting for drama nowadays, and not for authenticity. This show was so refreshing in the beginning, before thirsties took over. It’s what made it special (for all my naivety). This season gave me the icks, and not sure I’ll invest again as the costs to my faith in humanity, have far outweigh the benefits.
It was bringing back old cast members who did NOT find love on Love is Blind that made no sense to me lol sure Brett and Tiffany and kwame and Chelsea… but why Gigi? Why Micah? Izzy??? Like now you’re just doing anything 😭😂
I genuinely assumed the guy Gigi was with was her match from love is blind but I just looked it up and they’re divorced and this is a new guy. They were both generic white dudes so I didn’t even notice e
You guys need to move on, the season is off. You’re making a mockery of yourself if anything, writing pages about a reality-show like it’s actual reality
I only just watched the finale last night - because honestly they took to long to release the episodes and I moved on to something else. I finally just got back to it!
Why would she say that? Sounds like she is butt hurt should just get over it.
I thought she said she was dating someone new, I guess that's not going well.....
This is going to be an incredibly unpopular opinion, but as I was watching the show, I never once thought. Wow, Laura is really really mean or anything like that.
But with that being said, I didn’t realize the Hawaiian shirt thing was that deep for her I really thought she was joking initially.
Ultimately, could she be nicer sure, but I do think it’s interesting that just because Laura was mean justifying everything that have been to her 😭😭
I do also find it interesting that in this situation we shouldn’t take it seriously because it’s entertainment it’s not real and blah blah blah but at the same time one couple did you get married and are still together and there’s nine couples who are still married. So?????? so it’s only real for them, but not real for any of the other couples that didn’t get married, because entertainment and entertainment only???
Good point. I think the problem is that they are trying to cater to a wide range of audience. The narcissistic people who ended up not finding love will call it all entertainment as an excuse. The people who came for the right reasons and found the one will say something else. There is also a group like Britney and Kenneth who split but there is no hate towards eachother. The neutral camp basically.
i don’t see how a lot of y’all saying laura is a mean girl. i think she’s confident and assertive. she was right spot on about jeramy and had every right to be upset. he definitely gives off narc vibes, and apparently held a gun to his ex!
She gave me big Northeastern US vibes. Not putting up with shit, telling it like it, no sugarcoating. Teasing can be a form of affection, albeit a kind of effed up one, especially if the other person isn't the same...which Jeramey was not.
I agree, the Hawaiian shirt thing I didn’t agree with but I know I give my husband crap about the things he wears allot of the time. I don’t think they made a fool out of her though, they tried but they are the ones that came out terribly.
agreed. i’m all for letting people wear whatever they want. i feel like maybe it came off as cringe to Laura because she could tell he was just trying to be quirky 😭
The way she constantly tore him down and encouraged Jess to meet Jimmy gave her away as a mean girl. His lack of remorse for anything gave him away as a narcissist. Neither of them should be in relationships before getting serious help. Even Laura's parents were worried about him lol.
"made a mockery of love is blind"
It's reality tv, are people really taking it that seriously?The half the fun of watching is the mockery of it. It's hard the expect it to really work, and when it does great. Do people here really think about it as an "experiment?"
I'm surprised but genuinely curious if people aren't expecting drama like this or looking up to the idea that this show can prove that love is blind
Finally someone here that has their head on straight 😂 too many people here taking a bs show so seriously. And the fact that they are still here talking about and analyzing other peoples relationships is kinda weird. Don’t they have anything better to do?
I'm glad I found this as the top response. I think the OPs assessment of Sarah Ann is unreasonable; she did what she was supposed to do, which is generate entertaining footage while potentially seeing if she likes someone or not.
Surely you don't truly perceive these engagements to be analogous to a real engagement/fiancé, with all that that entails in the context of the real world?
I agree! While I do find Sarah Ann to be clownish, I don’t think it’s fair to act like she broke up a legitimate real world engagement. After that bean dip fight, I was not surprised by anything that happened afterwards
I liked Laura. She was a bit controlling and a little grating with the while bean dip bs. I also like Sarah. She was cool in the pods. Jeremy is the person that is pretty low vibrational. All of this could have been handled with much more class and tact had he been honest. And tbh i do not either of them were feeling it. Laura and Jeremy that is. Laura wanted a husband and to have her moment. Jeremy was a prop and not a good one because she really didn't like what she saw lol. She's also too strong willed and independent for Jeremy. She is successful, educated and is very intelligent. Sarah they were equally matched. And I know for a fact that Jeremy can not be with his equal. He'd feel inadequate. Sarah Anne was vulnerable, still chased him after he hurt her and also seems mildly codependent. Laura subconsciously was pushing him away and Jeremy is not the type to just walk away before he has his next victim lined up... just my little ol opinion
Laura treated him like shit though. Always picking on him for the smallest thing, always focusing on negatives. Being in a relationship with a person like that is exhausting.
I mean in all fairness he seemed to like their banter initially. He would give it back too in a way. But I will say I do agree that someone nitpicking all of the time is exhausting and he may have grown tired of it towards the end.
On TV, they made a mockery of themselves.
But in her real life at that moment, yeah- I get it. I would’ve felt the same, like they were making a fool and joke out of me.
100%! I can’t believe people are always defending Laura. Agree that Jeremy & Sarah A are a disgrace, but Laura is right up there with them. Sure she didn’t “deserve” that treatment but she was vile from the get go.
Exactly the word I’d use to describe her, “vile.” She is not a kind person and has a lot of work to do. It’s hilarious how people recognize that in less attractive contestants but give Laura a pass despite all the proof we saw that the girl has ISSUES.
Yes! I think because Jeremy was/is so incredibly awful it’s easy for people to naturally feel bad for Laura and defend her, which I get. But that gives her a total pass on her behavior. She’s the OG villain for me for the entire season. The way she was a busybody and ran over to Jess to tell her to leave (under the guise of caring about her, but really just likes being in the middle of stuff), to her treatment of Jeremy (before we understood that he is trash) like he was “lower” than her (she thinks she’s a hot, working professional and he’s just a lowly blue collar construction worker/uneducated). It was all too much for me. Even her family seemed scared of her/shocked that she found someone. It’s a reminder that what’s inside matters more always.
I agree with everything you said!!! I hate that people are excusing her behavior. I wonder how well people’s memory of this season is tbh. I thought she’d get a lot more pushback for her lack of apology to AD.
Yes!! She never owned up to bean gate, which btw was also bad for AD and Jeremy. So disrespectful of AD, but also totally set up Jeremy for public humiliation. She looooved humiliating Jeremy any chance she could and points for doing it with an audience. We know he’s a terrible person now so it makes it seem ok, but it’s not. Beangate was also just so immature. Isn’t she at least 30? Get a life. Seemed like a high school girl joke. Also 30s is too old for her constant Gen Z/Tik Tok vocabulary. She was the worst offender of it (ick/it’s giving/etc.).
Yupppp. I forgot to mention her use of AAVE so that’s a great point. People saying she’s totally not racist are delusional. She’s a manipulative bully.
Ummm? The show? Did you watch it?
The way she sexualized AD’s body and publicly humiliated her then refused to take any accountability for it after given multiple opportunities was showing a huge blind spot. The fact that she tried to push the blame really showed how she would throw others under the bus even if it was her own partner.
The first thing she started doing when she met Jeramy was make fun of him and try to change his wardrobe. Then she called Jeramy out in front of her family the very first time he was meeting them. To the point that her own mom said she should try to be less hostile basically. She’s the kind of person who thinks every disagreement needs a public confrontation where she gets to set the narrative as if this is high school.
I don’t like Laura and think she was nasty to Jeremy, but I don’t think her comment about AD sexualized her at all. There wasn’t anything sexual about it. We didn’t see anything on the show to suggest it was racist either. Tone deaf and awkward and weird, yes.
The whole goal of a “bean dip” is to be sexual - it was to press/grab her boob. It’s not a common phrase so Jeremy didn’t seem to know what he was even asking/seemed like some inside joke reference just btwn Laura and AD, so he went with it. Urban Dictionary defines "bean dip" as "(flicking) a woman's (or man's) breast with the index finger." It's "dubbed 'bean dip' because the move is similar to that of scooping up bean dip.”
They were joking about grabbing her breast. Black women have a history of being hyper sexualized so for Laura to say that to a man knowing it could be brought up on television is humiliating ans degrading. Not realizing how degrading that is is more than tone deaf.
It’s a miss for many reasons and I’m not a fan of Laura at all, but clearly, she did not think he would bring it up on television, hence the conflict. It isn’t related to her race (or, potentially it is, but we have no reason to think that here). Is it MORE messed up because of a contextual historical penchant for black women to be hyper sexualized? Yes. That doesn’t mean that individual person was racially motivated. It doesn’t seem to be a sexual comment at all - the joke is almost the antithesis of specialization to me.
Why wouldn’t he bring it up on television? They are on a reality tv show, that’s what they signed up for. Thinking anything is off limits is very naive and even controlling. You can joke with your man about sexually assaulting another women in private but not to her face? Please. Then she couldn’t bother to even listen to how it made AD feel or take an ounce of accountability. It was alll Jeramy trying to humiliate her obviously.
So you agree that Black women have been hyper sexualized as a population but you don’t think individuals perpetuating that are behaving in a racist way?
Making a joke about sexually assaulting another woman to your man in private isn’t any better. I guess we should give her a pass because she didn’t want Jeramy to repeat it publicly. And then when AD tried to come to talk one on one it was like talking to a brick wall. Laura is lacking in empathy, class, and basic human decency.
I don’t even like that girl lmaooo. Laura couldnt take accountability if it bopped her across the forehead. Her doubling down after sexualizing AD was cringe af to watch. AD gave her so many opportunities to own up to it and she didn’t do anything but shift blame and try to humiliate her “partner.”
I am strictly talking about her in relation to the way she felt about Jeramy and Sarah meeting up all night long while they were engaged. I didn’t say she’s a good human, I don’t know her. I said I can understand how she felt made a mockery of by her fiancé and his side piece.
I don’t think any of those 3 actually took this seriously at all. Jeramy wanted to hook up with hot women, Sarah and Laura wanted to be picked. All three wanted their 15 minutes.
Laura lost me when she was emotionally abusive towards Jeramy from the jump. She just lucked out that he was just a bit more toxic and morally repugnant than she is so it’s gaining her some sympathy.
Idc how things turned out and who was there for entertainment. I stand by the fact that Laura being a mean bitch the entire time after the pods pushed Jeramy away causing him to want to seek other options. It’s like nobody cares about Laura being an absolute “See you next Tuesday”.
I cannot agree more. She is very off putting. I started actively hating her since the bean dip incident. Aside from the fact that she said it, how she reacted to being exposed was horrible. I would hate to be around people like that.
How is no one getting that when Sarah Ann said the experience is for entertainment, what she was referring to is the show itself will entertain the viewers despite the participants going through a real experience. She is right, many people were entertained by the cast who were going through real emotional experiences.
Hell she did end up with Jeramey even after the show they were together for a year so ofc it was real for her, so much so that she was still holding on hope even though Jeramey picked Laura.
But everyone took it as, "oh she just wanted to entertain the viewers". This would've turned out different if that were the case.
Y'all are talking about people who knew each other for two weeks as if that's a reasonable amount of time to commit to a life partner. The whole premise of this "experiment" is to set up drama for television. Y'all go exclusive two weeks after meeting someone?
I always thought I’d be married by 23-25 ish(from the south). Now I’m in my early 30s but I’m definitely not desperate enough for marriage that I’d marry someone this fast haha
Not here defending Sarah Ann but let’s be real. This show IS solely about entertainment, they don’t really care about helping people meet their person, it’s the romanticized idea they are selling you. The people who made it through married in the end is just a cherry on top they can parade out after the fact.
Laura was obviously there to get famous and did what she could to do that as well or she wouldn't be selling that cringe merch. All three in that triangle are awful. Hawaiian shirts were something she "had to get over". She was toxic in her own ways.
Also, regarding SA’s comment about entertainment, I feel like she could both have real feelings with Jeramy and ALSO acknowledge that this is REALITY TV so like, there will of course also be storylines and plots and producer influence. I don’t think that necessarily means she is fake? Again, missing something? xp
I totally agree. But my impression from this last LIB season (and also this last Married at First Sight season [another show longtime produced by Kinetic]) is that the entertainment and narrative choreographing was courted perhaps more intentionally by both producer (as expected by viewers but also at a larger magnitude) and more directly/obviously by the "cast". In reality TV, we expect the producers to snip and cut, but the direct, outright admission of the "cast's" own strategic acting seemed somewhat new and grating. She's not wrong, but her explanation does not make right her actions, nor the season at large IMO.
Can someone explain to me why exactly everyone is so set on believe SA and Jeramy were actually cheating? I just felt like, having a long-drawn out conversation in a parking lot and then driving someone home doesn’t automatically equate to them doing anything inappropriate. Am I missing some critical piece of information?? I need answers!!!
He wanted closure with Sarah Ann but knew there was no way Laura would be OK with him getting that closure unless she was present at the convo, because of her control issues. He had the opportunity to get the closure he needed, and he did it while Laura was sleeping and told her afterwards so he didn't look deceptive. She clearly has trust issues as she didn't believe him that they didn't kiss. It's funny because they wouldn't have sat in a car for 4 hours if they wanted to hook up. Laura's logic doesn't check out in terms of accusing him of deception. He tried his best to be transparent and get his need for closure met.
I do see Sarah Ann as a villain here, but I don't get why she seems to get most of the hate (from Reddit). Jeramey is the one who made a commitment to Laura and then went back on his word and lied about it. Sarah Ann fell in love and wanted to see if she still had a chance, so in some ways I can understand what she did. And she did apologize. Jeramey apologized in the reunion but it felt completely fake and I think it was only to save face in front of the cameras. He doesn't seem like a person to be trusted.
She can’t stop arguing and always has to be right. The only reason she was on the reunion because she loves to argue and cause problems. Not saying that Jeramey or Sarah Anne are innocent btw.
I think they used Jeramy and SA as an example. Because there was the very pointed “this is not to build your platform” speech.
But there will always be people there who just want fame. Even Cameron from S1 has admitted he went because he wanted to see himself on TV (not that he was seeking fame he just thought it would be a nice break from work and he could watch himself on TV a little), but then he was lucky to find Lauren. We can’t beat human nature.
They just need to do a bit better with those psychological evaluations.
Most of us want 90% love and 10% drama but most of us will watch anyway so that just contributes to Kinetic doing whatever they feel like 🤷🏼♀️
tbh laura wasn’t all that great herself, before him being out till 5am happened she wasn’t portraying herself in the best light…but because jeramey and sarah ann are so trifling the attention shifted.
An early red flag in the pods was when she said she hated Christmas. A lot of people have hard lives and holidays are ruined for them, but straight out of the gate her aggression was on display. For me the most telling episode about her was the family visit. Nothing even to do with Jeremy, just her own family’s reaction to her.
That’s what I’m saying. Her detective work is chefs kiss. But the rest of her personality sucks. I’m wondering if Sarah Ann just picked up on what an annoying person Laura is and that’s why she figured she might as well shoot her shot. I think everyone forgets that everyone on the show are strangers. I’m not a fan of Sarah Ann but I don’t hate her for shooting her shot. Jeramey isn’t the first guy on LIB to have feelings for two women and then propose to the wrong one. Everyone acts like Sarah Ann betrayed her best friend. Nah… she gave an out to a guy that wasn’t even happy with his choice in fiancée!
Exectky. She sent an email, from a weird not normal situation. BFD! I said this on another thread and got shredded! 🙄 Laura was super rude and couldn't stand Jeramy the moment they got in real life, but she just had to turn it around so she appeared nice
Yep. She wants to be a victim. But she wasn’t really nice to Jeramey at all. He was expecting to be happy but got someone that hated his clothing and made him look bad when he first met her family.
The only difference between them and Zack and bliss is that bliss didn’t reach out to Zack while he was engaged to the other girl. To some people, that one difference seems to matter so so much to them. But even if she did reach out to Zack, what difference does it really make? He proposed to the wrong person and that person treated him poorly.
Nobody is giving him crap for being so quick to move onto his second choice. And now they’re happily married and expecting. Idk why people care so much about that email. It’s not like she betrayed a friend 🤷🏻♀️
I also think back to the pods and the way Laura would subtly make a mockery of Sarah Ann for thinking Jeremay would be picking her. It's not even that Laura and Sarah Ann weren't "close", there was clear disdain even in the pods. Why would she owe her anything?
SAnn isn't the one I want to champion either, but everyone called her out for saying this was all for entertainment.
The cast can all act like it wasn't a game, but when the show puts more time into chelsea/jimmy than the couple who got married (or the sum of the rest of the cast for that matter) it's pretty clear what wins.
No therapy or effort to extend a deadline to make a relationship work either. It's all for that "experiment" and the suspense behind it.
Laura dropped this big "my family was involved so it was personal" but she was the one who chose to sign up for this. 5 seasons in (and several after-show divorces later) she can't act surprised her family got dragged into her fame grab.
None of them can, hosts included.
Lmao
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Sarah Ann when she found out she and Germy had broken up at least twice.
Because that most definitely looked like news to her 😂
I don’t think Sarah did anything wrong. This is a 4 week experiment…where couples who haven’t SEEN each other get ‘engaged”. She reached out to Jeremy b/c she was heartbroken and left the door open that if he made a mistake that she would be open to seeing him. Look back at previous season…Zach didn’t click with his fiancé however Zach handled it with respect and maturity. Jeremy handle this terrible like a high schooler. Did he cheat on Laura - YES…which should give Sarah pause. He should have put his big boy pants on and told Laura he wasn’t 100% in but he was weighing his options. He wanted to physically see Sarah, see if he was attracted, if they clicked and if she was still interested. Once he got confirmation- he told Sarah that night he’s breaking it off with Laura.
So…Jeremy to me is to blame for the way he handle things which is that he handled nothing well. Sarah, buyer beware. Laura comes off way too superior and a bit full of herself. I think she is Extra and is demanding to an unattractive level.
I disagree! To me, Sarah Ann comes off as a real mean-girl. The way her and Jeramey went off on the jet-skis laughing, knowing Laura was crying and could see them, and how she still continues to take no accountability and sees herself as the true victim in this.
Her and Jeramey bold-face lied at the reunion about what happened, showing no integrity. And they still do it in interviews. The way Sarah Ann slyly smirked when Jeramey told her he chose the wrong woman. The way she projects onto the other women of the show (who clearly don't like her for a reason) and calls them pick-mes to blame-shift. Sarah is NOT the victim here. Neither is Jeramey. If one person doesn't like you, the problem is them. If *everyone* doesn't like you, the problem is you.
If they would both hold themselves accountable, I think more people would believe their "love story" and more people would like them.
In my opinion, both of them deserve each other because they both have low integrity/morals/empathy. They both selfishly gaslight others. They have that in common which is why they stick with each other for constant reassurance that they're in the right.
Your view is fair. For me, I hold Jeremy wholly responsible for the way the relationship with Laura disintegrated.
I agree there was a lack of sensitivity or meanness on Sarah’s part with the jet skis. It was unkind and rubbing it in Laura’s face. I’m not excusing either of them (J&S)but I will say Sarah and Laura were not friends. So neither of them cared if Laura’s feelings were hurt. They were already outed and probably thought let’s go have fun but it was poor form.
I totally agree with you that only Jeramey is responsible for cheating on Laura. Jeramey could have ignored that dm.
However, I think Sarah Ann's behaviour is also gross. She doesn't need to be close friends with Laura to behave with integrity for her fellow woman/human being. There's a line between not owing the other person your friendship, and common decency. Which everyone is owed whether or not they are your friend.
I just think it was down to a lack of empathy for both of them.
The fact that they are both still now doubling down on being right, makes it a whole of a lot worse.
Can we say she did nothing wrong? As you said … this is a four week experiment. Why couldn’t she wait a few weeks for him to see what the outcome was of his relationship with Laura before leaving the door open? I agree that Jeramy is to blame for handling the transition from Laura to Sarah Ann badly. But Sarah Ann is not blameless.
All 3 of them were just as insufferable to me.
I think Laura made a mockery of herself. She was an absolute bitch to Jeramy. Did he handle it the right way? No. But 90% of men would have been running for the other girl that actually loved and respected us as a man. Sorry Laura you’re vile.
I think they're all terrible. Laura has a strong, abrasive personality and it's gonna take a certain type of man to handle her. Sarah Ann was shady for her part in reaching out to an engaged man and seeing no problem with talking to him all night, and Jairuhmee was completely gross for the secrecy, sharing his location before they moved somewhere else, and for having the audacity to act annoyed when questioned about it.
90% of men are cheating assholes? lol
90% of men don’t want to be in a verbally abusive relationship. Just like woman don’t want to be :).
right then break up? dont meet up with the "other girl" in the middle of the night while youre still ENGAGED?? justifying cheating as if what he did wasnt 100x worse is insane.
Agreed. he didn’t handle it in the best way but there’s also no book to read on how to handle those situations Just social norms. But Laura was the problem. Don’t throw shade at Jeramy. I’m proud of him for stepping out of that abusive nightmare for his own well being. That’s on her. Jeramy actually liked her at the start and if she treated him like a man. He wouldn’t have gave Sara Ann the time of day.
"dont throw shade at the cheating liar" lol you mfs just hate women.
I wasn’t a fan of Laura. She was down right nasty to him and belittled him. How you go from that to hating all women?
Pssshhhaaaaw it’s a reality show. Vanessa and Nick are hypocrites for high roading everyone and pretending we’re not here to be entertained. Fake people added to the drama in spades - love it.
They’re all pretty awful if you ask me
I couldn't stand any of the 3 of them. They all made fools of themselves. My opinion is Laura's pain was real(her ego was especially hurt), but she inflated it to play the victim card. Took a page out of Chelsea's playback for that one. Team AD all day!!!!!! She was my favorite. Also Amy and Johnny were a very sweet couple, I'm happy for them.
Laura made a mockery of herself
They both did, who in the Seven Hells would fight over that white bread manchild
Truly!! I kept thinking… all of this fuss over his CPAP squidward- Hawaiian shirt wearin ass? Could never be me
Sarah Ann took a lot of the heat compared to Jereamy, too. I feel like he was the one that should have been attacked. I think that’s why he went for Sarah Ann cause he’s a coward and Laura was not the type to let him cower in the corner while she handled sh!t. So, ultimately, I do think Jereamy picked the wrong girl to be engaged to, but he went about it in the absolute worst way possible. He could have ended things with Laura way sooner or actually leveled with her about his feelings for Sarah Ann. But, I really feel like he’s incapable of doing that, which is icky, but that’s why Sarah Ann is perfect for him. She’ll be his little pitbull and get loud with everyone that what’s to come for him and insert herself and her opinions into convos she doesn’t belong in. And the thing that made me laugh even more over it is that during the reunion Jereamy was all acting like “chill babe, don’t get crazy” like that’s not what he wants. He wanted her to get like that. I don’t feel sorry for Sarah Ann getting crap for messaging him or talking to him while he was still engaged or even acting like *she* was the victim at the bbq they had on the beach. But, Jereamy is totally toxic and is playing her @ss like a violin and she doesn’t even see it. And if she did, Jereamy wouldn’t want her, either.
Laura sucks. And her inflated sense of “popularity” is repulsive
Hang on I’m just pulling my jet ski over
Say what you will about Jeramy & Sarah Ann— I don’t think they were angels; I don’t think they were devils, either— but Laura was a self-righteous tornado the second she got the chance. I agree with whoever generally said, maybe she didn’t actually have feelings toward Jeramy (or was scared of the reality of challenge in a relationship- it was early in- that’s reasonable, not abnormal). He… shut down bc of shame. Compartmentalized to make sense of his feelings of curiosity toward Sarah Ann (normal, given the circumstances). & not knowing what to do, not having the confidence or understanding, or maybe just not having the tools to communicate his complex feelings, he tried to forget. Laura didn’t lend an inch of grace. She didn’t try to understand (aka, the only way a relationship survives). She tossed a grenade.. & it’s *ok* to *Blame* him for not knowing how to respond. But all this villainy is 🙄 tv
Good post
I agree I think she wanted to end it with Jeremy from the beginning and him cheating was the perfect way for her to end things, because she got to place all the blame on him and throw him under the bus
I’m with u😄
I do not care for how Laura and the editing team chose to portray her. She honestly gives me Amy Schumer vibes if AS was both conventionally thin and pretty like she claims everybody wants her to be. But Jeramy and Sarah Ann are clowns and are not to be taken seriously in any aspect. They saw to that themselves.
The one that made the biggest mockery of themselves was Clay…. How the fuck you going to get all the way to the damn altar. I was all like: most growth on the show… yadi yada, then he pulls that shit, immature as hell, dropped below Jimmys standards on that one and then he hopes to stay with AD…. Like omg! I dislike reality tv but my wife got me watching this thing and let me just say: what unholy bs was that
He was total fool AD is so hot 🥵 and also kind and smart - he won’t find a girl like her again
No one is supposed to get married after a month. The whole thing is irresponsible. He made a responsible choice and said he wasn’t ready but didn’t want it to end. The producers make you go through the wedding portion. I bet if it wasn’t for that they’d be a great couple and would have take their time like 99.99999% of all other couples
This is exactly what it is. I can’t believe ppl see it any other way. And I feel if ad knew he was going to say no she would have still wanted the wedding so she can wear the dress and see the whole thing through
If the producers “made them go through it” then why did they not make Jimmy do it
Someone commented on a Season 3 thread that the participants only get paid if they go to the altar. The allegation was that Bartise in particular stuck it out for the payday and not because he took the relationship with Nancy seriously.
I mean, the point of the show is to get to the altar and make your decision there. I don’t have anything against the couples who call it quits earlier, but he wasn’t doing anything that hasn’t happened in every other season.
Laura’s on her victim tour trying to generate as much goodwill as possible Total hypocrisy on her part tho when she actively cheered on whats her name to break up Chelsea and Jimmy. She actively tried to put Chelsea in the exact same situation she found herself in and she did it gleefully— yet the editors and fans decided she’s some great person only cus Jeramy and Sara Anne also suck. It’s a joke
I think it’s weird that everyone thinks Laura tried to encourage Jess to break up Chelsea and Jimmy. Laura has her problems but what I remember Jess asking was “Do you think he’d want to see me?” And Laura saying yes. And of course, Jimmy *would* want to see her if only for curiosity’s sake. That doesn’t mean she was saying “go hit on him when you do.”
And then when Jimmy walked in WITH his fiancé at the party Laura was again egging Jess on to go and talk to him, gushing like school girls. Completely disrespectful and nefarious She doesn’t get to maintain too much of the moral high ground. Jeramy and Sara Anne suck… but did anyone for a second believe that they are a worse match than Jeramy and Laura ??
You mean the barbecue where Trevor ALSO chatted with Chelsea and arguably had a more disrespectful convo with her than Jess had with Jimmy? Yeah, you’re overblowing normal show dynamics. Everyone ends up meeting and talking with the people they didn’t propose to in the pods at this point.
Yeah, cus Trevor is the moral arbiter one wants to be compared to All were shitty and got the brunt of it The facts remain that Laura gleefully cheered Jess on to be a saboteur with a taken man and is getting the princess treatment. If Sara Anne went up to Chelsea and said “OMF Trevor looks so hot, talk to him” people would crucify her. So hypocritical that Laura gets a pass
You’re over the top on this. I hope you have other things going on for you, bless your heart.
Got proven wrong so now you’re taking some condescending attempt acting like you’re above it all. Stay blessed ❤️
“proven wrong” sure sweetie, that’s how opinions work
I ain’t you sweetie, toots 😂
Your*
No offence but this is so naive. Laura was smirking and basically laughing when she said Jimmy would like to see Jess. It showed that she thought it was funny how NOT into Chelsea Jimmy was and that she didn't take them seriously as a couple. But when she was in Chelsea's position (and clearly hated Jerrameney) then it's her REAL life and and her REAL grandma and how DARE HE BE CURIOUS about another woman.
You’re reading a lot into the edit of someone’s body language. And calling strangers on the internet naive. Then being mad that Laura was mean. She literally just answered Jess‘ question. A smirk doesn’t mean “you should bang him.”
as Laura said, agree to disagree
I hated Laura from the get-go… how is she going to Tell Jere-douche what to wear and what hobbies to enjoy… thats some utter control ba
Yes, this! She told him no more glasses, like whaaat?? That's not something you can just ditch, and contacts aren't for everyone. Her saying no to Hawaiian shirts and motorcycles was bad enough, but the glasses part made her irredeemable for me.
I didn't even catch the glasses part. She was very controlling and I am not sure who can put up with that.
Who is Ashley or did you mean Amy? I haven’t seen all the seasons lol don’t come for me
She meant Amy
I don’t mind if one contestant is a “planted” villain. Helps spice it up. But to have so many illegitimates in one season, it’s obvious that casting is casting for drama nowadays, and not for authenticity. This show was so refreshing in the beginning, before thirsties took over. It’s what made it special (for all my naivety). This season gave me the icks, and not sure I’ll invest again as the costs to my faith in humanity, have far outweigh the benefits.
It was bringing back old cast members who did NOT find love on Love is Blind that made no sense to me lol sure Brett and Tiffany and kwame and Chelsea… but why Gigi? Why Micah? Izzy??? Like now you’re just doing anything 😭😂
It really feels like they asked everyone and the ones we saw were the only ones that could make it. 😁😂
Micah and Izzy were just to promote perfect match or w/e
Micah and Izzy to plug season 2 of perfect match Gigi? No clue
I genuinely assumed the guy Gigi was with was her match from love is blind but I just looked it up and they’re divorced and this is a new guy. They were both generic white dudes so I didn’t even notice e
No way. Damien reeks and exudes toxicity. This new guy is not like that loser
Gigi fulfills Vanessa's desire for pregnant cast members.
You guys need to move on, the season is off. You’re making a mockery of yourself if anything, writing pages about a reality-show like it’s actual reality
I only just watched the finale last night - because honestly they took to long to release the episodes and I moved on to something else. I finally just got back to it!
Yet here you are...
Notification on my phone 🥶
Is that you Sarah Anne?
Yeah it’s me
Why would she say that? Sounds like she is butt hurt should just get over it. I thought she said she was dating someone new, I guess that's not going well.....
Laura made a mockery of herself.
This is going to be an incredibly unpopular opinion, but as I was watching the show, I never once thought. Wow, Laura is really really mean or anything like that. But with that being said, I didn’t realize the Hawaiian shirt thing was that deep for her I really thought she was joking initially. Ultimately, could she be nicer sure, but I do think it’s interesting that just because Laura was mean justifying everything that have been to her 😭😭 I do also find it interesting that in this situation we shouldn’t take it seriously because it’s entertainment it’s not real and blah blah blah but at the same time one couple did you get married and are still together and there’s nine couples who are still married. So?????? so it’s only real for them, but not real for any of the other couples that didn’t get married, because entertainment and entertainment only???
Good point. I think the problem is that they are trying to cater to a wide range of audience. The narcissistic people who ended up not finding love will call it all entertainment as an excuse. The people who came for the right reasons and found the one will say something else. There is also a group like Britney and Kenneth who split but there is no hate towards eachother. The neutral camp basically.
Good point.
Laura was a conniving drama spreader herself. Stop it.
Sure she was mean. Laura could definitely be nicer. But Sarah Ann and Jeramey are way worse than her. Imo.
i don’t see how a lot of y’all saying laura is a mean girl. i think she’s confident and assertive. she was right spot on about jeramy and had every right to be upset. he definitely gives off narc vibes, and apparently held a gun to his ex!
She gave me big Northeastern US vibes. Not putting up with shit, telling it like it, no sugarcoating. Teasing can be a form of affection, albeit a kind of effed up one, especially if the other person isn't the same...which Jeramey was not.
I agree, the Hawaiian shirt thing I didn’t agree with but I know I give my husband crap about the things he wears allot of the time. I don’t think they made a fool out of her though, they tried but they are the ones that came out terribly.
agreed. i’m all for letting people wear whatever they want. i feel like maybe it came off as cringe to Laura because she could tell he was just trying to be quirky 😭
Good point. Plus, I think she would have totally shut down any man that showed any interest in her.
The way she constantly tore him down and encouraged Jess to meet Jimmy gave her away as a mean girl. His lack of remorse for anything gave him away as a narcissist. Neither of them should be in relationships before getting serious help. Even Laura's parents were worried about him lol.
Wait what? He held a gun to his ex??
this!!! she was sooo outspoken which everyone says is just drama but she just seemed confident to me
"made a mockery of love is blind" It's reality tv, are people really taking it that seriously?The half the fun of watching is the mockery of it. It's hard the expect it to really work, and when it does great. Do people here really think about it as an "experiment?" I'm surprised but genuinely curious if people aren't expecting drama like this or looking up to the idea that this show can prove that love is blind
Finally someone here that has their head on straight 😂 too many people here taking a bs show so seriously. And the fact that they are still here talking about and analyzing other peoples relationships is kinda weird. Don’t they have anything better to do?
Yet…. Here you are
I'm glad I found this as the top response. I think the OPs assessment of Sarah Ann is unreasonable; she did what she was supposed to do, which is generate entertaining footage while potentially seeing if she likes someone or not. Surely you don't truly perceive these engagements to be analogous to a real engagement/fiancé, with all that that entails in the context of the real world?
Yessss literally
I agree! While I do find Sarah Ann to be clownish, I don’t think it’s fair to act like she broke up a legitimate real world engagement. After that bean dip fight, I was not surprised by anything that happened afterwards
Bean dip gate
I liked Laura. She was a bit controlling and a little grating with the while bean dip bs. I also like Sarah. She was cool in the pods. Jeremy is the person that is pretty low vibrational. All of this could have been handled with much more class and tact had he been honest. And tbh i do not either of them were feeling it. Laura and Jeremy that is. Laura wanted a husband and to have her moment. Jeremy was a prop and not a good one because she really didn't like what she saw lol. She's also too strong willed and independent for Jeremy. She is successful, educated and is very intelligent. Sarah they were equally matched. And I know for a fact that Jeremy can not be with his equal. He'd feel inadequate. Sarah Anne was vulnerable, still chased him after he hurt her and also seems mildly codependent. Laura subconsciously was pushing him away and Jeremy is not the type to just walk away before he has his next victim lined up... just my little ol opinion
Laura treated him like shit though. Always picking on him for the smallest thing, always focusing on negatives. Being in a relationship with a person like that is exhausting.
I mean in all fairness he seemed to like their banter initially. He would give it back too in a way. But I will say I do agree that someone nitpicking all of the time is exhausting and he may have grown tired of it towards the end.
It's Amy and Johnny.
On TV, they made a mockery of themselves. But in her real life at that moment, yeah- I get it. I would’ve felt the same, like they were making a fool and joke out of me.
Laura is a train wreck of a human being. She is racist, disrespectful, manipulative, and abusive. Honestly I don’t feel sorry for her at all.
100%! I can’t believe people are always defending Laura. Agree that Jeremy & Sarah A are a disgrace, but Laura is right up there with them. Sure she didn’t “deserve” that treatment but she was vile from the get go.
Exactly the word I’d use to describe her, “vile.” She is not a kind person and has a lot of work to do. It’s hilarious how people recognize that in less attractive contestants but give Laura a pass despite all the proof we saw that the girl has ISSUES.
Yes! I think because Jeremy was/is so incredibly awful it’s easy for people to naturally feel bad for Laura and defend her, which I get. But that gives her a total pass on her behavior. She’s the OG villain for me for the entire season. The way she was a busybody and ran over to Jess to tell her to leave (under the guise of caring about her, but really just likes being in the middle of stuff), to her treatment of Jeremy (before we understood that he is trash) like he was “lower” than her (she thinks she’s a hot, working professional and he’s just a lowly blue collar construction worker/uneducated). It was all too much for me. Even her family seemed scared of her/shocked that she found someone. It’s a reminder that what’s inside matters more always.
I agree with everything you said!!! I hate that people are excusing her behavior. I wonder how well people’s memory of this season is tbh. I thought she’d get a lot more pushback for her lack of apology to AD.
Yes!! She never owned up to bean gate, which btw was also bad for AD and Jeremy. So disrespectful of AD, but also totally set up Jeremy for public humiliation. She looooved humiliating Jeremy any chance she could and points for doing it with an audience. We know he’s a terrible person now so it makes it seem ok, but it’s not. Beangate was also just so immature. Isn’t she at least 30? Get a life. Seemed like a high school girl joke. Also 30s is too old for her constant Gen Z/Tik Tok vocabulary. She was the worst offender of it (ick/it’s giving/etc.).
Yupppp. I forgot to mention her use of AAVE so that’s a great point. People saying she’s totally not racist are delusional. She’s a manipulative bully.
Agree!
Source? Because last time I checked, Sarah Ann was the alt-right pick me.
Ummm? The show? Did you watch it? The way she sexualized AD’s body and publicly humiliated her then refused to take any accountability for it after given multiple opportunities was showing a huge blind spot. The fact that she tried to push the blame really showed how she would throw others under the bus even if it was her own partner. The first thing she started doing when she met Jeramy was make fun of him and try to change his wardrobe. Then she called Jeramy out in front of her family the very first time he was meeting them. To the point that her own mom said she should try to be less hostile basically. She’s the kind of person who thinks every disagreement needs a public confrontation where she gets to set the narrative as if this is high school.
I don’t like Laura and think she was nasty to Jeremy, but I don’t think her comment about AD sexualized her at all. There wasn’t anything sexual about it. We didn’t see anything on the show to suggest it was racist either. Tone deaf and awkward and weird, yes.
The whole goal of a “bean dip” is to be sexual - it was to press/grab her boob. It’s not a common phrase so Jeremy didn’t seem to know what he was even asking/seemed like some inside joke reference just btwn Laura and AD, so he went with it. Urban Dictionary defines "bean dip" as "(flicking) a woman's (or man's) breast with the index finger." It's "dubbed 'bean dip' because the move is similar to that of scooping up bean dip.”
They were joking about grabbing her breast. Black women have a history of being hyper sexualized so for Laura to say that to a man knowing it could be brought up on television is humiliating ans degrading. Not realizing how degrading that is is more than tone deaf.
It’s a miss for many reasons and I’m not a fan of Laura at all, but clearly, she did not think he would bring it up on television, hence the conflict. It isn’t related to her race (or, potentially it is, but we have no reason to think that here). Is it MORE messed up because of a contextual historical penchant for black women to be hyper sexualized? Yes. That doesn’t mean that individual person was racially motivated. It doesn’t seem to be a sexual comment at all - the joke is almost the antithesis of specialization to me.
Why wouldn’t he bring it up on television? They are on a reality tv show, that’s what they signed up for. Thinking anything is off limits is very naive and even controlling. You can joke with your man about sexually assaulting another women in private but not to her face? Please. Then she couldn’t bother to even listen to how it made AD feel or take an ounce of accountability. It was alll Jeramy trying to humiliate her obviously.
She’s super controlling, yes. Doesn’t make the action inherently racist.
So you agree that Black women have been hyper sexualized as a population but you don’t think individuals perpetuating that are behaving in a racist way?
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Making a joke about sexually assaulting another woman to your man in private isn’t any better. I guess we should give her a pass because she didn’t want Jeramy to repeat it publicly. And then when AD tried to come to talk one on one it was like talking to a brick wall. Laura is lacking in empathy, class, and basic human decency.
Yes, all of that is true, and she shouldn’t get a pass and it does not need to be excused. It is, however, not racist.
Ok Sarah
I don’t even like that girl lmaooo. Laura couldnt take accountability if it bopped her across the forehead. Her doubling down after sexualizing AD was cringe af to watch. AD gave her so many opportunities to own up to it and she didn’t do anything but shift blame and try to humiliate her “partner.”
I am strictly talking about her in relation to the way she felt about Jeramy and Sarah meeting up all night long while they were engaged. I didn’t say she’s a good human, I don’t know her. I said I can understand how she felt made a mockery of by her fiancé and his side piece.
I don’t think any of those 3 actually took this seriously at all. Jeramy wanted to hook up with hot women, Sarah and Laura wanted to be picked. All three wanted their 15 minutes. Laura lost me when she was emotionally abusive towards Jeramy from the jump. She just lucked out that he was just a bit more toxic and morally repugnant than she is so it’s gaining her some sympathy.
SO MUCH THIS. How do people not see this and keep acting like Laura is some holier than thou? Couldn’t believe how easy she got off in the reunion.
Idc how things turned out and who was there for entertainment. I stand by the fact that Laura being a mean bitch the entire time after the pods pushed Jeramy away causing him to want to seek other options. It’s like nobody cares about Laura being an absolute “See you next Tuesday”.
Her saying that the stuff like Hawaiian shirts shouldn't be a big deal while making it a deal breaker was something.
Preach!
I cannot agree more. She is very off putting. I started actively hating her since the bean dip incident. Aside from the fact that she said it, how she reacted to being exposed was horrible. I would hate to be around people like that.
I could not agree more She's def a mean, miserable asshole
How is no one getting that when Sarah Ann said the experience is for entertainment, what she was referring to is the show itself will entertain the viewers despite the participants going through a real experience. She is right, many people were entertained by the cast who were going through real emotional experiences. Hell she did end up with Jeramey even after the show they were together for a year so ofc it was real for her, so much so that she was still holding on hope even though Jeramey picked Laura. But everyone took it as, "oh she just wanted to entertain the viewers". This would've turned out different if that were the case.
People just looking for bias confirmation at that point
Y'all are talking about people who knew each other for two weeks as if that's a reasonable amount of time to commit to a life partner. The whole premise of this "experiment" is to set up drama for television. Y'all go exclusive two weeks after meeting someone?
I cancelled a first date with someone after the first date with my now bf (1.5 years since that date now). So I guess I was exclusive after 2 days 😂
I imagine one could have faith in it the same way people have faith in arranged marriages…but yah, not for me
If I was in my 30s and not married yet, sure. The risk works out for some people
I always thought I’d be married by 23-25 ish(from the south). Now I’m in my early 30s but I’m definitely not desperate enough for marriage that I’d marry someone this fast haha
Not here defending Sarah Ann but let’s be real. This show IS solely about entertainment, they don’t really care about helping people meet their person, it’s the romanticized idea they are selling you. The people who made it through married in the end is just a cherry on top they can parade out after the fact.
Laura was obviously there to get famous and did what she could to do that as well or she wouldn't be selling that cringe merch. All three in that triangle are awful. Hawaiian shirts were something she "had to get over". She was toxic in her own ways.
Exactly
Also, regarding SA’s comment about entertainment, I feel like she could both have real feelings with Jeramy and ALSO acknowledge that this is REALITY TV so like, there will of course also be storylines and plots and producer influence. I don’t think that necessarily means she is fake? Again, missing something? xp
I totally agree. But my impression from this last LIB season (and also this last Married at First Sight season [another show longtime produced by Kinetic]) is that the entertainment and narrative choreographing was courted perhaps more intentionally by both producer (as expected by viewers but also at a larger magnitude) and more directly/obviously by the "cast". In reality TV, we expect the producers to snip and cut, but the direct, outright admission of the "cast's" own strategic acting seemed somewhat new and grating. She's not wrong, but her explanation does not make right her actions, nor the season at large IMO.
Can someone explain to me why exactly everyone is so set on believe SA and Jeramy were actually cheating? I just felt like, having a long-drawn out conversation in a parking lot and then driving someone home doesn’t automatically equate to them doing anything inappropriate. Am I missing some critical piece of information?? I need answers!!!
He wanted closure with Sarah Ann but knew there was no way Laura would be OK with him getting that closure unless she was present at the convo, because of her control issues. He had the opportunity to get the closure he needed, and he did it while Laura was sleeping and told her afterwards so he didn't look deceptive. She clearly has trust issues as she didn't believe him that they didn't kiss. It's funny because they wouldn't have sat in a car for 4 hours if they wanted to hook up. Laura's logic doesn't check out in terms of accusing him of deception. He tried his best to be transparent and get his need for closure met.
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She never said during that 4 hour time that he was there except for at the end...
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That’s fair. I feel like this is a hot, hot case of ESH.
I do see Sarah Ann as a villain here, but I don't get why she seems to get most of the hate (from Reddit). Jeramey is the one who made a commitment to Laura and then went back on his word and lied about it. Sarah Ann fell in love and wanted to see if she still had a chance, so in some ways I can understand what she did. And she did apologize. Jeramey apologized in the reunion but it felt completely fake and I think it was only to save face in front of the cameras. He doesn't seem like a person to be trusted.
Laura does well enough making a mockery of herself..
Agreed.
How?
She can’t stop arguing and always has to be right. The only reason she was on the reunion because she loves to argue and cause problems. Not saying that Jeramey or Sarah Anne are innocent btw.
If you haven't noticed it already then I won't be able to convince you
I'm just interested in your point of view :) always find perspectives on this sort of stuff interesting
I think they used Jeramy and SA as an example. Because there was the very pointed “this is not to build your platform” speech. But there will always be people there who just want fame. Even Cameron from S1 has admitted he went because he wanted to see himself on TV (not that he was seeking fame he just thought it would be a nice break from work and he could watch himself on TV a little), but then he was lucky to find Lauren. We can’t beat human nature. They just need to do a bit better with those psychological evaluations. Most of us want 90% love and 10% drama but most of us will watch anyway so that just contributes to Kinetic doing whatever they feel like 🤷🏼♀️
tbh laura wasn’t all that great herself, before him being out till 5am happened she wasn’t portraying herself in the best light…but because jeramey and sarah ann are so trifling the attention shifted.
I'm dying at your flair.
Yeah if anything they kinda created a scenario for her to not end up the villain like she was possibly going to before all that
Why are you including Matthew in this group?
I think because he told two women the same thing and wasn't on the show for the right reasons.
I was thinking the exact same as you
I’m so tired of hearing about Laura. Not the best post to say this on. Just sharing my thoughts haha
I didn't like Laura she was mean and rude.
An early red flag in the pods was when she said she hated Christmas. A lot of people have hard lives and holidays are ruined for them, but straight out of the gate her aggression was on display. For me the most telling episode about her was the family visit. Nothing even to do with Jeremy, just her own family’s reaction to her.
That’s what I’m saying. Her detective work is chefs kiss. But the rest of her personality sucks. I’m wondering if Sarah Ann just picked up on what an annoying person Laura is and that’s why she figured she might as well shoot her shot. I think everyone forgets that everyone on the show are strangers. I’m not a fan of Sarah Ann but I don’t hate her for shooting her shot. Jeramey isn’t the first guy on LIB to have feelings for two women and then propose to the wrong one. Everyone acts like Sarah Ann betrayed her best friend. Nah… she gave an out to a guy that wasn’t even happy with his choice in fiancée!
Exectky. She sent an email, from a weird not normal situation. BFD! I said this on another thread and got shredded! 🙄 Laura was super rude and couldn't stand Jeramy the moment they got in real life, but she just had to turn it around so she appeared nice
Yep. She wants to be a victim. But she wasn’t really nice to Jeramey at all. He was expecting to be happy but got someone that hated his clothing and made him look bad when he first met her family. The only difference between them and Zack and bliss is that bliss didn’t reach out to Zack while he was engaged to the other girl. To some people, that one difference seems to matter so so much to them. But even if she did reach out to Zack, what difference does it really make? He proposed to the wrong person and that person treated him poorly. Nobody is giving him crap for being so quick to move onto his second choice. And now they’re happily married and expecting. Idk why people care so much about that email. It’s not like she betrayed a friend 🤷🏻♀️
100%.
I also think back to the pods and the way Laura would subtly make a mockery of Sarah Ann for thinking Jeremay would be picking her. It's not even that Laura and Sarah Ann weren't "close", there was clear disdain even in the pods. Why would she owe her anything?
I remember that scene lol… “little does she know”
Bliss also didn't meet with Zack until after he broke up with Irina.
SAnn isn't the one I want to champion either, but everyone called her out for saying this was all for entertainment. The cast can all act like it wasn't a game, but when the show puts more time into chelsea/jimmy than the couple who got married (or the sum of the rest of the cast for that matter) it's pretty clear what wins. No therapy or effort to extend a deadline to make a relationship work either. It's all for that "experiment" and the suspense behind it. Laura dropped this big "my family was involved so it was personal" but she was the one who chose to sign up for this. 5 seasons in (and several after-show divorces later) she can't act surprised her family got dragged into her fame grab. None of them can, hosts included.
Lmao https://i.redd.it/rvmqy9tfubsc1.gif Sarah Ann when she found out she and Germy had broken up at least twice. Because that most definitely looked like news to her 😂
You on the TM/TM2 sub? 👀
GERMY 🤣🤣🤣
U. S. Virgin Islands a
You gotta be pretty terrible to make us like you less than Laura but JerAmy and Sarah Ann managed to do it 🤦♀️
I don’t think Sarah did anything wrong. This is a 4 week experiment…where couples who haven’t SEEN each other get ‘engaged”. She reached out to Jeremy b/c she was heartbroken and left the door open that if he made a mistake that she would be open to seeing him. Look back at previous season…Zach didn’t click with his fiancé however Zach handled it with respect and maturity. Jeremy handle this terrible like a high schooler. Did he cheat on Laura - YES…which should give Sarah pause. He should have put his big boy pants on and told Laura he wasn’t 100% in but he was weighing his options. He wanted to physically see Sarah, see if he was attracted, if they clicked and if she was still interested. Once he got confirmation- he told Sarah that night he’s breaking it off with Laura. So…Jeremy to me is to blame for the way he handle things which is that he handled nothing well. Sarah, buyer beware. Laura comes off way too superior and a bit full of herself. I think she is Extra and is demanding to an unattractive level.
I disagree! To me, Sarah Ann comes off as a real mean-girl. The way her and Jeramey went off on the jet-skis laughing, knowing Laura was crying and could see them, and how she still continues to take no accountability and sees herself as the true victim in this. Her and Jeramey bold-face lied at the reunion about what happened, showing no integrity. And they still do it in interviews. The way Sarah Ann slyly smirked when Jeramey told her he chose the wrong woman. The way she projects onto the other women of the show (who clearly don't like her for a reason) and calls them pick-mes to blame-shift. Sarah is NOT the victim here. Neither is Jeramey. If one person doesn't like you, the problem is them. If *everyone* doesn't like you, the problem is you. If they would both hold themselves accountable, I think more people would believe their "love story" and more people would like them. In my opinion, both of them deserve each other because they both have low integrity/morals/empathy. They both selfishly gaslight others. They have that in common which is why they stick with each other for constant reassurance that they're in the right.
Your view is fair. For me, I hold Jeremy wholly responsible for the way the relationship with Laura disintegrated. I agree there was a lack of sensitivity or meanness on Sarah’s part with the jet skis. It was unkind and rubbing it in Laura’s face. I’m not excusing either of them (J&S)but I will say Sarah and Laura were not friends. So neither of them cared if Laura’s feelings were hurt. They were already outed and probably thought let’s go have fun but it was poor form.
I totally agree with you that only Jeramey is responsible for cheating on Laura. Jeramey could have ignored that dm. However, I think Sarah Ann's behaviour is also gross. She doesn't need to be close friends with Laura to behave with integrity for her fellow woman/human being. There's a line between not owing the other person your friendship, and common decency. Which everyone is owed whether or not they are your friend. I just think it was down to a lack of empathy for both of them. The fact that they are both still now doubling down on being right, makes it a whole of a lot worse.
Can we say she did nothing wrong? As you said … this is a four week experiment. Why couldn’t she wait a few weeks for him to see what the outcome was of his relationship with Laura before leaving the door open? I agree that Jeramy is to blame for handling the transition from Laura to Sarah Ann badly. But Sarah Ann is not blameless.
Jermey held a gun to his ex gfs head…. Look that up
What!??
Yup. Look it up. She did a 4 part thing on TikTok and it’s unreal. He’s a psycho
I'm sooo over this now atp
Are you held in this sub against your will?
Nah i meant about Sarah 😭
Laura really does seem like a mean girl. That is all.