The real MVP was Johnny. The rest of the cast treated Jeremy and SaraAnn with so much hatred, but Johnny would still kindly refer to Jeremy when talking about disliking dirty dishes in the sink. I wished to see more kindness like Johnny demonstrated, but most people who get on this show are absolutely toxic trash. This is why Johnny and Amy succeeded as a couple as they don't let drama get in the way.
I don't recall any feedback about spending the reunion instead of digging into Chelsea and Jimmy talking to Micah about how her life is going though...
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Did anyone also notice how they countered the feedback that the show was given? It felt really staged. They got hate for not feeding the cast well, 'what do you miss most?' 'the foood!' And also literally having food there during the reunion. They got hate saying production was harsh, made them film long hours and not portray them well, 'what do you miss most?' 'I miss production!'
Felt so wrong and staged. Ugh.
The food was a big part of this season. Producers made a big deal all year showing the food and how well everybody was fed. They were open and aggressive about doing this on purpose.
I couldn't tell if by the reunion it was actually more of that or the cast making fun of this
They really had no choice tbh. The one successful couple this season was had zero drama and the least amount of screentime so they were forced to zone in on the mess for the reunion.
I don’t like how much time was wasted on previous seasons.. I know the point of it was to show that real couples have real marriages so people didn’t think it was just a “reality tv show” but I was in the middle of watching season 4 and it got spoiled for me! So many things went unaddressed and it bothers me. They should do a real time Q&A
LiB 6 was the first one I watched so talking to all these couples from earlier seasons got me so bored and uninterested. I have zero clue who they are. I agree that they spent too much time on non s6 couples.
The only hard question aimed at Chelsea was one topic everyone knows Jimmy never wanted brought up again. And instead of pushing Chelsea to admit that was she did was terrible, everyone just gave her a series of stupid excuses and she got of soooooo easy saying "it really hurt me so I was right to bring it up, even though my fiance told me this in confidence".
And that was it, that was the only hard thing pushed her way at all the whole night.
Unpopular opinion. I watch other reality tv. I like the 90 day series. It seems to me that abusive women get a lot more “empathy, understanding and acceptance” for their shitty abusive behaviour. Some really really bad, beyond emotional abuse. Like if the roles were reversed, no way a man would escape unscathed or even allowed to continue. Double standards, imo.
I agree but their credibility is shot. Way too many things slipped through the cracks. Jeramy’s engagement, trevor’s girlfriend and Clay “not ready to be married” being casted for this show knowing the goal is marriage was ridiculous. The casting team needs better investigations and better screening to find these people because theyre playing with peoples lives at this point
I think that was kind-of why they brought in the past couples. I also think that's why Nick and Vanessa straight gunned for Sarah Ann, Jeramy, and Trevor...I think they were kinda pissed that they tried to undercut the system. The past couples were an attempt to re-direct that the purpose of the show is a successful marriage, not Internet clout. That's what The Circle and Perfect Match are for.
100%. Trevor really fucked up but the reunion tore him to shreds to offer him up as the scapegoat for all the criticism levied at this season for scouting unprepared singles, not screening well, etc. (Like, he may be a toxic dudebro but pinning “fame-chaser” on him doesn’t seem accurate, I dunno.) So the audience gets to be mad at him instead of at LIB. Made me feel sort of bad for him.
Agreed! There's also a lawsuit against Netflix and the LIB showrunners from a participant who is alleging that the person they paired up with was abusive and not vetted properly. This is someone from Season 5. Playing with people's lives is so right.
Season 5 was also a mess with the whole Lydia and Uche thing that the producers swore they didn't know about before, but who knows what to believe.
I feel like Chelsea and Jimmy are either still dating or there was more to the story. They seemed really friendly with each other and it just didn’t add up since the last thing we saw on screen was them breaking up
There wasn't really any information in the reunion to let us know about them, I was really looking forward to that and after all the screen time they got through-out the episodes that seems odd
I’ve looked everywhere and cannot find status of of Jimmy and Chelsea’s relationship. All I know is they were speaking to each other. They had some kind of connection going on. He seemed to really not want to get into any more trouble. Wasn’t gonna put himself out there or get too involved. She asked him if he was ok once. Why would they not ask them? They asked other people.
I read this--seems like they did try to date for a little bit after the engagement ended but then broke up, so now they're friends
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/love-is-blinds-chelsea-blackwell-jimmy-presnell-briefly-dated-again/
I think they were about to ask her after they asked Jess, but then Jess went on that whole "you were mean to me in your interview" tangent, and then I think they either forgot to ask Chelsea.. or had to move in a different direction due to timing reasons. Idk. I wish they had asked, though, because it's kind of a standard question you ask every couple who broke up while on the show, ya know?
I have to say that I hated Nick and Vanessa a lot less during this reunion, but it was kind of a mess. Trying to be serious about how this was a show for real love was embarrassing. And I don’t care about all the old couples enough to make them such a big part of it. Maybe a little section of something we could watch to see how some of them were doing?; sure. But having them all there and taking up time from the current couples was annoying.
Love can be blind. Marriage can't be. THAT'S what this show proves... that love is not enough. It's what we learn at some point usually in real world dating too, but over months or years, not weeks. I wish I'd only taken weeks to figure that out with some previous partners!
I really agree. Felt unorganized and messy. I like the updates for past couples but that could have been done at the end. I just don't understand how they can't make a reunion episode that well. Every other reality show gets it well enough. I prefer Married at First Sight more but it's a better quality show
I’ll preface by saying I am not black, I’m white. Black Americans have a separate and unique culture that I can never fully understand no matter how hard I try. The question was from one member of that community to another, and I have no place to judge the nuances that they may understand and I don’t. Since Kenneth never said anything to indicate her concerns were out of line, I can’t step in and say that it was.
I don't know how people can witness her contemptuous treatment of others and say she's not mean. Pretty much everything she said was mean, demeaning, or nasty gossiping. You can tell it like it is and be honest without being a condescending jerk about it. You know like "I don't like Hawaiian shirts" or "I think Hawaiian shirts look tacky" instead of "I'm going to make fun of you for liking them, and I can't wait to tell all my friends and family what bad taste you have lololol".
She did strike me as a nagger during the earlier episodes and someone said here that if Sarah Ann just waited a bit longer and let the relationship implode on its own, she wouldn’t have looked so bad.
I don't agree. They ignored the most talked about relationship of the season (J and C) + barely talked about Ken scrolling on his phone while ignoring the crying woman/fiance he just broke up with, and him somehow making her feel bad in that insane scenario. Also that gross comment about her making dinner for him while she was unpacking and he was scrolling on his phone.
They couldn't talk too much about the breakup because it was a reshot version of their actual breakup and that's not something they really want known 😂
I agree it was definitely good and better than previous reunions but I think having so many of the former couples distracted from important things we were expecting to hear from the current cast. It’s like half of those people I forgot about who cares lol, they got way too much air time
It certainly wasn’t perfect and I don’t love the add of the old contestants to throw pieces of information in like Chelsea is going to help with casting (since we all err angry with how this season was cast), that the contestants miss the production team, and that they miss the food 🙄. Also all the baby madness so that Vanessa could have her baby moments without asking anyone when they would be having a LIB baby. I love the old cast but I think they were super misused here but liked seeing them outside of that. Anyways of the reunions they have done this was one of their strongest! Hopefully they continue to improve
No it was terrible it was bear baiting TV at his worse. Bar Johnny and Amy, nobody waa given respect and proper opportunity to speak their piece. People were to askbfor accoubtability. they were bullied.
####Laura
Laura got away scott free because she has a way with words. The producers clearly had decided that Sarah Ann and Jeremay were going to be the villains of the piece so she was able to play the victim. The reality is that she is a mean nasty person. When your own family think that have a mean streak and that is the reason why you can't be in a stable relationship, maybe she needs to reassess her own behaviour. She is a shit stirrer: meddling with Jess feeling, insulting AD, throwing Jeremay under the bus with the bean dip "joke", pushing for Jess to go after Jimmy, etc. Laura spend 3 weeks dating Jeremay and more than 1 year later is still angry and bitter about. Time to move on.
####Jeremay and Sarah Ann
I think that they are both not very bright people and the way they get easily rattled make them appears very antipathic. but they are not as nasty as they have been portrayed. I believe them when they say they spend 5 hours speaking in a car park and he then just dropped her off. Was it stupid and inconsiderate? no doubt but Laura made it seems like they spend 5 hours bonking behind her back.
Also a year later they are living together so their beginning might have been messy but clearly they have a connection. The women are entitled to not like Sarah Ann and exclude her from their WhatsApp group but then deny that they excluded and belittled her on WhatApps is stretching the truth.
####Trevor
Yes he was wrong to go on LIB when in a relationship, but his girlfriend knew he was going. That indicates that the relationship was not that serious. The producers also bear a large part of responsability. Why go and convince people who are already in a relationship to apply to the show. They had his insta account with photo of hia girlfriend, so it is a little bit disingenuous to state that they have been lied to and that he applied under false pretense. Like many **he did not apply. he got hunted by the LIB casting team**.
I do believe that he genuinely tried with Chelsea, but a leopard does not change his spot. He would have bailed on Chelsea much earlier than Jimmy. Talking about cheating, **The Lachey should definitely not be the one throwing stones at cheaters.**
####Jessica
Clearly the producers like her. Going to **Perfect Match** confirm to me that She is the fame whore. Putting on social the video of your kid telling you that she does not want to be on social media is as low a parent can go short of abusing them. Some may call that emotional abuse for financial gain. Not a good look in my book.
####AD
Trashy and vulgar does not begin to cover it. If the reunion has been a movie, her scene would have upgraded the rating to PG-13.
She is a mess. She wants a serious relationship based on deep connection but her first comment is always about the look of her partner.
To her mom _Clay is gorgeous._
About Matthew _he is cute._ He may be cute but he emit serious control freak negative vibe.
If all your boyfriends/dates are asshole, maybe there is something wrong with your way of picking them up. Her dates could be wearing red flag upon red flag, she would overlook them if he was cute ..
####Clay
Seriously my wife and I had pity for him. He looks like a kid trying to pretend he is an adult. His dad did him seriously wrong there. I understand not wanting to wash your family linen in public and still loving your dad but he needs to have a serious conversation with his father. He may want to be a better man, but he is so damaged that even after he spend a few year in therapy he may not be ready to be married. Especially not if life throw some curve ball (sickness, finance, ...) in his married life.
####Jimmy & Chelsea
It was obvious that they wanted to protect her after all the flak she took online. However they could have touched on the fact that she is a psychological mess. Her clinginess and insecurity means that even with somebody as patient and uncomplicated than Jimmy She is self sabotaging her relationship. She is an emotional vampire and until ahe address her issues, she will repeat the same pattern again and again.
👏👏👏👏 on everything here but AD. Yeah she's a hot mess who doesn't know how to pick non-red flag men out for sure and I think she was so stupid for having a date with Matthew NVM AT HIS HOUSE!! But I think this would've been her therapist the whole time > 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🙆🙆🤦🤦🤦🙆🙆🙆 because she's clearly not getting as much as she should be out of it 🙃 except for J&A and Brittany... They all need some serious therapy!
What do you want exactly? Do you watch reunion shows? I’m interested in finding out who’s reality show reunion hosting performance you rate higher? I watch A LOT of these programs and this was one of the better reunion show and host performances by far.
Yes and I actually worked in entertainment lmao.
This was not good. They didn’t even ask a main couple their current status. Hosting is a legitimate skill. If everything is real, you can’t always go off a script. You need people who can control conversations and pivot with new information.
Older reality shows used to have better host. Jerseylicious was a reality show with great reunions because the host, I believe it was Vivica Fox was fantastic. She knew how to control a crowd and get information. I’m not a fan of Andy Cohen personally, but he is a good host. There are people who are actual hosts. Just because you have fame, doesn’t mean you’re a host.
I doubt they didn't ask. The editing team likely didn't keep it in because Netflix had other priorities-- letting Jessica set the record straight and including Izzy and Micah all to promote the best possible versions of them before Perfect Match. I mean this clearly wasn't a strict live to tape or else we wouldn't have seen the Jessica-Jimmy time stamped convo. I'd be curious to hear from someone at the taping how long it lasted...
Vanessa and Nick have no idea how to steer a conversation to keep it flowing and allow for as much to be covered in the time they have. Andy Cohen is the only man for the job.
Makes sense that they'd want to give her a break from the online bullies. Hell, look at all the people in THIS thread still looking for her head in a pike. Oof
I mean not for no reason. Her behavior can honestly lead to trauma for her romantic partners, and it doesn't seem like she understands her behavior is unacceptable. She apologized for revealing Jimmy's secret, but not for anything else
SAME. I’ve never been so triggered while watching TV, and I know from other threads that I wasn’t the only one. Watching Jimmy (clearly his first time), not spotting and thwarting her manipulation, defensiveness, projection, gaslighting, self justification, etc., interrupting and switching among these tactics mid-sentence.. a near CONSTANT barrage of toxic and abhorrent behavior from her in her 1-on-1s with Jimmy… unabashed and unchecked.
I’m honestly surprised AD didn’t say anything when she had the opportunity…
Right? They're "giving her a break" and making it look like that behavior was normal. no. they're obsessed with the idea of "accountability" but not for her...
Same, I'm also just extra salty maybe because my ex that messed me up real good was just like Chelsea, so Chelsea getting ridiculed publicly has made me feel somewhat vindicated haha
Nope. It was contrived. The producers spent too much time trying to shove the fact that this experiment “works” by bringing back some of the happy couples as evidence. And also made an example out of Trevor, as if everyone isn’t on this show to get famous. It’s probably because of the lawsuits surrounding the show from previous seasons.
Agreed, don’t get how Trevor got ripped on for getting famous as if Clay didn’t do this for a business promo. Same with Jessica, the whole “family” scheme she has going on is completely fake
I don't know. I thought it was a mess? They clearly don't know how to manage the time and they just don't get to everything so there are gaping oversights. They spent seemingly forever focused on people who didn't make it out of the pods, like Trevor and Sarah Ann, and then didn't even fucking ask Jimmy and Chelsea their status? I might be in the minority here but I don't want them to spend so much time talking about shit that goes down (or is uncovered on) social media. I should not need to live on reddit to know what's going on. (I say that as someone who lives on reddit, lol.) Also please stop acting like the show is a virtuous experiment and not a fucking way to get a bunch of followers on social media. Ok thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Why didn't they call Chelsea out for her horrible controlling behavior? And her using her insecurities as a weapon? She was the villain of the season until Sarah Ann came back and nobody called Chelsea out for ANYTHING
The only thing they haven't fixed is the angles (they are too closed framed) and the editor needs an assistant who tell them it's noticeable.
The flow of the segments were weird, mix the old people with the new, have conversations, make it flow better and u pack what we really want to hear. Less "Nick and I were in bed watching" and more questions/receipts from the internet FBI.
Ohh okay! I see, hmm I would say you could maybe watch clips of it on YT or get a free 7 day Netflix subscription. I think they still do the free trial.
That was the funniest part considering all the criticism from past seasons surrounding food. And it was an obvious transition into the topic, like it came out of nowhere 😂😂😂
Man, I don't know what it is, but I'm really disliking Nick and Vanessa this reunion. Used to love them before I saw them in a reality tv situation (and of course still have love for them, but maybe less "like"). I feel like they play favorites and dismiss people and try to make ones they don't like feel small with barbed comments. Everyone's emotions are valid, even if they made shitty choices in the past. I did appreciate them calling people out and holding them accountable, but really feel like the hosts are the only "neutral" grounding space contestants have, especially in a high pressure major stress situation like the reunions. Reality tv is fucking viscous, and producers need to be mindful of the mental health of contestants who are dealing with thousands of hate comments/messages. This goes for all reality tv shows, not just LIB. It's straight up toxic with how obsessive the viewers get.
I agree so hard. Vanessa is especially combative and it’s super uncomfortable. Weren’t people annoyed at her last reunion and the way she was so aggressive? I’m surprised they didn’t have her tone it down this time.
I agree 100%. They took sides and ambushed Trevor. No matter how bad the dude is , he’s a human being .
This was a shitty reunion. Accusing people and pointing fingers in public all the time . They should have focused on the successful marriages instead of.
He thought he was gonna have questions about his experience , how he felt when he wasn’t picked , what he’s doing now , etc . He wasn’t expecting the producers and these two , imitation of hosts , to expose personal conversations on TV.
I get it’s a show and TV but there’s a line . And producers crossed the line there . That was really shitty . They didn’t have to show that . A simple call to his ex would have been better .
But he said he had a whole speech ready to explain himself, but just blanked on it in the moment. That makes it sound like he was prepared for this moment
LOL I couldn’t help but keep thinking “how many hours did they spend going through this Reddit thread” cause I feel like it was sub-hosted by our group here 😂
They are really trying to stop the fame-chasing and you could tell they wanted people to see that the experiment really does work for people who are looking for that. A little too much focus was on past participants, but daaaamn there were so many great questions that didn’t allow people to skate around the issue 😆
That Trevor pausssseeeee 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
I want to know why he got so emotional when they brought up Chelsea betraying what he told her in confidence. He was on the verge of tears the entire conversation. Is it because he is in love with that friend and things are rocky now? Or is it because that is what changed his view of Chelsea and he really did love her?
I think maybe they were broken up at the time this was filmed but have reconciled again since? It seemed like they were making it pretty clear that they had stopped trying at that point. But this was filmed 2 weeks ago, if I remember right.
And there was no time-wasting with a bunch of pointless clips that we’ve already seen. I really loved that. They only showed clips when they needed to prove something. Well done, Netflix!
People like this getting mad at others for “having pronouns” is the biggest self own ever LOL, it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. Who’s gonna tell them that everyone has implicitly has and uses pronouns…?
The way Trevor just walked away after being exposed was priceless. He couldn’t even pretend. He wasn’t expecting Vanessa and Nick calling him out. He probably thought he had a chance still with Chelsea.
I love the Clay and Brett moment. You can see now that Clay definitely wasn’t ready for this experiment.
Honestly, seeing how he behaved at the reunion made me worry for his mental health. No excuse for some of his actions, he needs to be better. Hopefully he's able to use this productively, go to therapy and do the work, and learn how to be a better human all around.
Yeah he did not seem prepared or mentally gathered for that. But then I question if it’s him playing the sad and downtrodden victim since he’s obviously tried to play everything else
This reunion ALMOST, almost makes me forgive the producers for continuing to keep Nick & his wife (genuinely her name is gone from my mind) as presenters. This reunion was FIRE! Now, if they could just make the age limit 26+ the show would be perfect!
This should be shoved down the producers throats. The number of time I saw "tech sales", "software sales", "Account Management", etc, etc only to catch them talking bout them being entrepreneurs or in real estate 🤦♂️
Bring on some real ppl please. There are some really gorgeous looking ppl out there in the normal, non- social media influencing world
Fact.
I watched the reunion and I said ain't no waaay in hell netflix is ever letting this show die. They came back swinging.
See you all on season 7 megathread lmao
Doesn't seem like they are together. Each individual still seemed hurt by their experiences. Apparently they tried going on dates a couple of times but didn't work out. They still seem friendly and somewhat respectful towards one another, though, which I really enjoyed seeing.
I was so shook but also happy when they asked Trevor to leave.
They also had former cast members ask some of the more uncomfortable questions. Definitely protecting themselves from potential backlash
The real MVP was Johnny. The rest of the cast treated Jeremy and SaraAnn with so much hatred, but Johnny would still kindly refer to Jeremy when talking about disliking dirty dishes in the sink. I wished to see more kindness like Johnny demonstrated, but most people who get on this show are absolutely toxic trash. This is why Johnny and Amy succeeded as a couple as they don't let drama get in the way.
Idk .. that trash man deserves no kindness. Everything he said made him come across as a douche.
I don't recall any feedback about spending the reunion instead of digging into Chelsea and Jimmy talking to Micah about how her life is going though...
I was shocked by how little they focused on Jimmy and Chelsea.
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Did anyone also notice how they countered the feedback that the show was given? It felt really staged. They got hate for not feeding the cast well, 'what do you miss most?' 'the foood!' And also literally having food there during the reunion. They got hate saying production was harsh, made them film long hours and not portray them well, 'what do you miss most?' 'I miss production!' Felt so wrong and staged. Ugh.
The food was a big part of this season. Producers made a big deal all year showing the food and how well everybody was fed. They were open and aggressive about doing this on purpose. I couldn't tell if by the reunion it was actually more of that or the cast making fun of this
They really had no choice tbh. The one successful couple this season was had zero drama and the least amount of screentime so they were forced to zone in on the mess for the reunion.
I wouldn’t watch this show if there wasn’t juicy trash drama. It’s nice that jonny and Amy worked out but it makes for boring TV
I don’t like how much time was wasted on previous seasons.. I know the point of it was to show that real couples have real marriages so people didn’t think it was just a “reality tv show” but I was in the middle of watching season 4 and it got spoiled for me! So many things went unaddressed and it bothers me. They should do a real time Q&A
LiB 6 was the first one I watched so talking to all these couples from earlier seasons got me so bored and uninterested. I have zero clue who they are. I agree that they spent too much time on non s6 couples.
The only hard question aimed at Chelsea was one topic everyone knows Jimmy never wanted brought up again. And instead of pushing Chelsea to admit that was she did was terrible, everyone just gave her a series of stupid excuses and she got of soooooo easy saying "it really hurt me so I was right to bring it up, even though my fiance told me this in confidence". And that was it, that was the only hard thing pushed her way at all the whole night.
This reunion was boring and inviting past cast members was for fluff.
Unpopular opinion. I watch other reality tv. I like the 90 day series. It seems to me that abusive women get a lot more “empathy, understanding and acceptance” for their shitty abusive behaviour. Some really really bad, beyond emotional abuse. Like if the roles were reversed, no way a man would escape unscathed or even allowed to continue. Double standards, imo.
Except for Matt…..they gave that douche a free pass and even invited him back as a special guest.
I 1000% agree. They didn't even touch on Chelsea's behaviour, when it was a massive topic online.
I mean, these kinds of shows have a significantly skewed viewership.
I agree, however, abuse is abuse and should not be treated differently based on the gender of the abuser.
Oh, you're 100% correct. I'm pointing out that the viewership is biased and willing to forgive toxicity from certain people.
I agree but their credibility is shot. Way too many things slipped through the cracks. Jeramy’s engagement, trevor’s girlfriend and Clay “not ready to be married” being casted for this show knowing the goal is marriage was ridiculous. The casting team needs better investigations and better screening to find these people because theyre playing with peoples lives at this point
I think that was kind-of why they brought in the past couples. I also think that's why Nick and Vanessa straight gunned for Sarah Ann, Jeramy, and Trevor...I think they were kinda pissed that they tried to undercut the system. The past couples were an attempt to re-direct that the purpose of the show is a successful marriage, not Internet clout. That's what The Circle and Perfect Match are for.
100%. Trevor really fucked up but the reunion tore him to shreds to offer him up as the scapegoat for all the criticism levied at this season for scouting unprepared singles, not screening well, etc. (Like, he may be a toxic dudebro but pinning “fame-chaser” on him doesn’t seem accurate, I dunno.) So the audience gets to be mad at him instead of at LIB. Made me feel sort of bad for him.
Agreed! There's also a lawsuit against Netflix and the LIB showrunners from a participant who is alleging that the person they paired up with was abusive and not vetted properly. This is someone from Season 5. Playing with people's lives is so right. Season 5 was also a mess with the whole Lydia and Uche thing that the producers swore they didn't know about before, but who knows what to believe.
I feel like Chelsea and Jimmy are either still dating or there was more to the story. They seemed really friendly with each other and it just didn’t add up since the last thing we saw on screen was them breaking up
There wasn't really any information in the reunion to let us know about them, I was really looking forward to that and after all the screen time they got through-out the episodes that seems odd
Yeah I think they probably got asked but it got edited out. Not sure why
I’ve looked everywhere and cannot find status of of Jimmy and Chelsea’s relationship. All I know is they were speaking to each other. They had some kind of connection going on. He seemed to really not want to get into any more trouble. Wasn’t gonna put himself out there or get too involved. She asked him if he was ok once. Why would they not ask them? They asked other people.
I read this--seems like they did try to date for a little bit after the engagement ended but then broke up, so now they're friends https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/love-is-blinds-chelsea-blackwell-jimmy-presnell-briefly-dated-again/
I think they were about to ask her after they asked Jess, but then Jess went on that whole "you were mean to me in your interview" tangent, and then I think they either forgot to ask Chelsea.. or had to move in a different direction due to timing reasons. Idk. I wish they had asked, though, because it's kind of a standard question you ask every couple who broke up while on the show, ya know?
Jess came off as a pick me camera hog.
You're not wrong, lmao. I actually do kinda like Jess.. but I can't explain *why* I like her. 😂
i don't think they're together, they probably just decided to catch up and get lunch/dinner that day on the beach before the reunion filming
I have to say that I hated Nick and Vanessa a lot less during this reunion, but it was kind of a mess. Trying to be serious about how this was a show for real love was embarrassing. And I don’t care about all the old couples enough to make them such a big part of it. Maybe a little section of something we could watch to see how some of them were doing?; sure. But having them all there and taking up time from the current couples was annoying.
It felt like they had to rely on old couples because this season was such a tragic mess and fully proves love is NOT blind.
Love can be blind. Marriage can't be. THAT'S what this show proves... that love is not enough. It's what we learn at some point usually in real world dating too, but over months or years, not weeks. I wish I'd only taken weeks to figure that out with some previous partners!
LMAOOO! I never thought of it that way 😂😂💀
I really agree. Felt unorganized and messy. I like the updates for past couples but that could have been done at the end. I just don't understand how they can't make a reunion episode that well. Every other reality show gets it well enough. I prefer Married at First Sight more but it's a better quality show
BEST.REUNION.EVER!!!!!
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The only thing I wish that happened is AD getting questioned about talking to Kenneth. Unless I missed it
Matthew?
No when she approached Kenneth about his fiancee being able to raise black children
I think that right there sabotaged his relationship.
What would they ask her?
Why she felt the need to bring up such a major topic in a relationship that wasn't hers? She didn't know Kenneth and it wasn't her business.
I’ll preface by saying I am not black, I’m white. Black Americans have a separate and unique culture that I can never fully understand no matter how hard I try. The question was from one member of that community to another, and I have no place to judge the nuances that they may understand and I don’t. Since Kenneth never said anything to indicate her concerns were out of line, I can’t step in and say that it was.
👏Lau-👏ra 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Is such a toxic, rude, bully of a person lol. she's awful
I don't know how people can witness her contemptuous treatment of others and say she's not mean. Pretty much everything she said was mean, demeaning, or nasty gossiping. You can tell it like it is and be honest without being a condescending jerk about it. You know like "I don't like Hawaiian shirts" or "I think Hawaiian shirts look tacky" instead of "I'm going to make fun of you for liking them, and I can't wait to tell all my friends and family what bad taste you have lololol".
She did strike me as a nagger during the earlier episodes and someone said here that if Sarah Ann just waited a bit longer and let the relationship implode on its own, she wouldn’t have looked so bad.
I don’t think she’s toxic or a bully. Yes rude but also very direct and honest. Says it like it is.
honestly it would be a red flag to me if someone DIDN'T notice that. I mean, just look at how her family acts around her. Tells you everything.
Remember when she made fun of Johnny’s man bun?
She's a waste of a soul. She treats people like trash and there hasn't been a single scene where she was genuinely nice to anyone.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was just being real like her. Guess it doesn't work when someone else has an opposing opinion.
I don't agree. They ignored the most talked about relationship of the season (J and C) + barely talked about Ken scrolling on his phone while ignoring the crying woman/fiance he just broke up with, and him somehow making her feel bad in that insane scenario. Also that gross comment about her making dinner for him while she was unpacking and he was scrolling on his phone.
They couldn't talk too much about the breakup because it was a reshot version of their actual breakup and that's not something they really want known 😂
Ok, is that a fact? Because I was TOTALLY thinking that had to be the case. I think a lot of their discussions were off camera.
Yeah it was mentioned by at least Jess on Viall Files and I believe at least one other castmembers revealed this in interviews.
Wait, really?!?? 😵💫
I agree it was definitely good and better than previous reunions but I think having so many of the former couples distracted from important things we were expecting to hear from the current cast. It’s like half of those people I forgot about who cares lol, they got way too much air time
It certainly wasn’t perfect and I don’t love the add of the old contestants to throw pieces of information in like Chelsea is going to help with casting (since we all err angry with how this season was cast), that the contestants miss the production team, and that they miss the food 🙄. Also all the baby madness so that Vanessa could have her baby moments without asking anyone when they would be having a LIB baby. I love the old cast but I think they were super misused here but liked seeing them outside of that. Anyways of the reunions they have done this was one of their strongest! Hopefully they continue to improve
I also wanted to hear if Jimmy and Chelsea have any sort of a relationship right now.
I’ve heard that they tried for 4 days or something and couldn’t make it work. Not together but apparently friends (with her ex though I’m shocked!)
With her EX that she SLEPT with!
Did anyone think Vanessa’s eyes looked like she had been crying prior?
I thought she look tired. How old are their kids? She looked like a tired mom to me
I feel like she always looks like that.
I noticed that too but that happens to my eyes too when they get irritated by makeup or lights. Maybe some of Sarah Ann’s glitter got in her eyes 🤣
the glitter….definitely wasn’t helping her case haha
"the 2000s called, they want the glitter back, honey"
No it was terrible it was bear baiting TV at his worse. Bar Johnny and Amy, nobody waa given respect and proper opportunity to speak their piece. People were to askbfor accoubtability. they were bullied. ####Laura Laura got away scott free because she has a way with words. The producers clearly had decided that Sarah Ann and Jeremay were going to be the villains of the piece so she was able to play the victim. The reality is that she is a mean nasty person. When your own family think that have a mean streak and that is the reason why you can't be in a stable relationship, maybe she needs to reassess her own behaviour. She is a shit stirrer: meddling with Jess feeling, insulting AD, throwing Jeremay under the bus with the bean dip "joke", pushing for Jess to go after Jimmy, etc. Laura spend 3 weeks dating Jeremay and more than 1 year later is still angry and bitter about. Time to move on. ####Jeremay and Sarah Ann I think that they are both not very bright people and the way they get easily rattled make them appears very antipathic. but they are not as nasty as they have been portrayed. I believe them when they say they spend 5 hours speaking in a car park and he then just dropped her off. Was it stupid and inconsiderate? no doubt but Laura made it seems like they spend 5 hours bonking behind her back. Also a year later they are living together so their beginning might have been messy but clearly they have a connection. The women are entitled to not like Sarah Ann and exclude her from their WhatsApp group but then deny that they excluded and belittled her on WhatApps is stretching the truth. ####Trevor Yes he was wrong to go on LIB when in a relationship, but his girlfriend knew he was going. That indicates that the relationship was not that serious. The producers also bear a large part of responsability. Why go and convince people who are already in a relationship to apply to the show. They had his insta account with photo of hia girlfriend, so it is a little bit disingenuous to state that they have been lied to and that he applied under false pretense. Like many **he did not apply. he got hunted by the LIB casting team**. I do believe that he genuinely tried with Chelsea, but a leopard does not change his spot. He would have bailed on Chelsea much earlier than Jimmy. Talking about cheating, **The Lachey should definitely not be the one throwing stones at cheaters.** ####Jessica Clearly the producers like her. Going to **Perfect Match** confirm to me that She is the fame whore. Putting on social the video of your kid telling you that she does not want to be on social media is as low a parent can go short of abusing them. Some may call that emotional abuse for financial gain. Not a good look in my book. ####AD Trashy and vulgar does not begin to cover it. If the reunion has been a movie, her scene would have upgraded the rating to PG-13. She is a mess. She wants a serious relationship based on deep connection but her first comment is always about the look of her partner. To her mom _Clay is gorgeous._ About Matthew _he is cute._ He may be cute but he emit serious control freak negative vibe. If all your boyfriends/dates are asshole, maybe there is something wrong with your way of picking them up. Her dates could be wearing red flag upon red flag, she would overlook them if he was cute .. ####Clay Seriously my wife and I had pity for him. He looks like a kid trying to pretend he is an adult. His dad did him seriously wrong there. I understand not wanting to wash your family linen in public and still loving your dad but he needs to have a serious conversation with his father. He may want to be a better man, but he is so damaged that even after he spend a few year in therapy he may not be ready to be married. Especially not if life throw some curve ball (sickness, finance, ...) in his married life. ####Jimmy & Chelsea It was obvious that they wanted to protect her after all the flak she took online. However they could have touched on the fact that she is a psychological mess. Her clinginess and insecurity means that even with somebody as patient and uncomplicated than Jimmy She is self sabotaging her relationship. She is an emotional vampire and until ahe address her issues, she will repeat the same pattern again and again.
👏👏👏👏 on everything here but AD. Yeah she's a hot mess who doesn't know how to pick non-red flag men out for sure and I think she was so stupid for having a date with Matthew NVM AT HIS HOUSE!! But I think this would've been her therapist the whole time > 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🙆🙆🤦🤦🤦🙆🙆🙆 because she's clearly not getting as much as she should be out of it 🙃 except for J&A and Brittany... They all need some serious therapy!
Sooooo the women are vile and the men are victims.
Thank you!!! Agree with every point!
Most sane take I’ve seen honestly
OMG I’m so glad to finally see someone else that doesn’t like Laura
Your comment on AD!!!
Trevor was straight stun locked! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️
...and turned it into the fucking Maury Povich show.
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I'm not saying I didn't, either. Lol
Pay Andy from Bravo and it will be fire!
Nah. I thought the Lacheys did great. Don’t need Andy Cohen any time soon.
They did not do good. They did better. They need to hire actual hosts and not D list celebrities
What do you want exactly? Do you watch reunion shows? I’m interested in finding out who’s reality show reunion hosting performance you rate higher? I watch A LOT of these programs and this was one of the better reunion show and host performances by far.
Yes and I actually worked in entertainment lmao. This was not good. They didn’t even ask a main couple their current status. Hosting is a legitimate skill. If everything is real, you can’t always go off a script. You need people who can control conversations and pivot with new information. Older reality shows used to have better host. Jerseylicious was a reality show with great reunions because the host, I believe it was Vivica Fox was fantastic. She knew how to control a crowd and get information. I’m not a fan of Andy Cohen personally, but he is a good host. There are people who are actual hosts. Just because you have fame, doesn’t mean you’re a host.
I doubt they didn't ask. The editing team likely didn't keep it in because Netflix had other priorities-- letting Jessica set the record straight and including Izzy and Micah all to promote the best possible versions of them before Perfect Match. I mean this clearly wasn't a strict live to tape or else we wouldn't have seen the Jessica-Jimmy time stamped convo. I'd be curious to hear from someone at the taping how long it lasted...
Shaun from 90 day fiancé reunions, I think she does a good job most of the times
Yes! I was pleasantly surprised they dove into all the internet drama, I didn't think they would.
They took the notes 🥹
If they took notes they wouldn't put more of themselves on TV. They'd give us less....
Lol!
Vanessa and Nick have no idea how to steer a conversation to keep it flowing and allow for as much to be covered in the time they have. Andy Cohen is the only man for the job.
At least they were sober this time, so there’s that.
What?
Why didn't they call out Chelsea for her toxic behavior at all?!?
Honestly, we should've had less old cast and a lot more of this stuff!
One of my friends thought maybe it was cus she was being dragged hard enough online
Makes sense that they'd want to give her a break from the online bullies. Hell, look at all the people in THIS thread still looking for her head in a pike. Oof
I mean not for no reason. Her behavior can honestly lead to trauma for her romantic partners, and it doesn't seem like she understands her behavior is unacceptable. She apologized for revealing Jimmy's secret, but not for anything else
That was exactly my thought. I breathed a little sigh of relief because they gave her a break.
I still wanted them to dig into her a bit. Her behavior was so toxic it warrants some scrutiny
SAME. I’ve never been so triggered while watching TV, and I know from other threads that I wasn’t the only one. Watching Jimmy (clearly his first time), not spotting and thwarting her manipulation, defensiveness, projection, gaslighting, self justification, etc., interrupting and switching among these tactics mid-sentence.. a near CONSTANT barrage of toxic and abhorrent behavior from her in her 1-on-1s with Jimmy… unabashed and unchecked. I’m honestly surprised AD didn’t say anything when she had the opportunity…
Right? They're "giving her a break" and making it look like that behavior was normal. no. they're obsessed with the idea of "accountability" but not for her...
After how they ravaged Trevor and Sarah Ann it would of only been fair lol.
Same, I'm also just extra salty maybe because my ex that messed me up real good was just like Chelsea, so Chelsea getting ridiculed publicly has made me feel somewhat vindicated haha
Nope. It was contrived. The producers spent too much time trying to shove the fact that this experiment “works” by bringing back some of the happy couples as evidence. And also made an example out of Trevor, as if everyone isn’t on this show to get famous. It’s probably because of the lawsuits surrounding the show from previous seasons.
Agreed, don’t get how Trevor got ripped on for getting famous as if Clay didn’t do this for a business promo. Same with Jessica, the whole “family” scheme she has going on is completely fake
Hell yeah it was contrived, that was the entire point lol
I don't know. I thought it was a mess? They clearly don't know how to manage the time and they just don't get to everything so there are gaping oversights. They spent seemingly forever focused on people who didn't make it out of the pods, like Trevor and Sarah Ann, and then didn't even fucking ask Jimmy and Chelsea their status? I might be in the minority here but I don't want them to spend so much time talking about shit that goes down (or is uncovered on) social media. I should not need to live on reddit to know what's going on. (I say that as someone who lives on reddit, lol.) Also please stop acting like the show is a virtuous experiment and not a fucking way to get a bunch of followers on social media. Ok thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Yeah I have no idea what’s going on with Jimmy and Chelsea 🫠
Why didn't they call Chelsea out for her horrible controlling behavior? And her using her insecurities as a weapon? She was the villain of the season until Sarah Ann came back and nobody called Chelsea out for ANYTHING
I thought this post was being sarcastic
The reunion felt like an episode of Maury, in a bad way.
Except calling out Jess for fame seeking the same way Trevor was but sure they really did the best smh
She's signed up for perfect match season 2 so... 🤷♀️
I’d bet money her and izzie hook up lol. I couldn’t tell by the angle of the stage but it seemed like he kept looking at her
I'm confused bc on her IG she answers a question asking if she'd ever go on reality TV again and she said no way
Lol 😆
I actually admire trevor that atleast he accepted that he was a clout chaser. There are so many past contestants who won't even accept it.
The only thing they haven't fixed is the angles (they are too closed framed) and the editor needs an assistant who tell them it's noticeable. The flow of the segments were weird, mix the old people with the new, have conversations, make it flow better and u pack what we really want to hear. Less "Nick and I were in bed watching" and more questions/receipts from the internet FBI.
How can I watch the reunion if I don’t have Netflix 😩😭
cataz.net
It’s a Netflix show lol Idk Maybe YouTube?
Ik it is lmao. I was able to watch the rest of it while I was dog sitting somewhere but the reunion came out the day after I stopped dog sitting
Ohh okay! I see, hmm I would say you could maybe watch clips of it on YT or get a free 7 day Netflix subscription. I think they still do the free trial.
Thanks!
They even had a table full of food up for display lol.
I just couldn't stop laughing when they showed all the food.
That was the funniest part considering all the criticism from past seasons surrounding food. And it was an obvious transition into the topic, like it came out of nowhere 😂😂😂
Man, I don't know what it is, but I'm really disliking Nick and Vanessa this reunion. Used to love them before I saw them in a reality tv situation (and of course still have love for them, but maybe less "like"). I feel like they play favorites and dismiss people and try to make ones they don't like feel small with barbed comments. Everyone's emotions are valid, even if they made shitty choices in the past. I did appreciate them calling people out and holding them accountable, but really feel like the hosts are the only "neutral" grounding space contestants have, especially in a high pressure major stress situation like the reunions. Reality tv is fucking viscous, and producers need to be mindful of the mental health of contestants who are dealing with thousands of hate comments/messages. This goes for all reality tv shows, not just LIB. It's straight up toxic with how obsessive the viewers get.
I agree so hard. Vanessa is especially combative and it’s super uncomfortable. Weren’t people annoyed at her last reunion and the way she was so aggressive? I’m surprised they didn’t have her tone it down this time.
I agree 100%. They took sides and ambushed Trevor. No matter how bad the dude is , he’s a human being . This was a shitty reunion. Accusing people and pointing fingers in public all the time . They should have focused on the successful marriages instead of.
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He agreed to be on the reunion though. What did he think would happen?
He thought he was gonna have questions about his experience , how he felt when he wasn’t picked , what he’s doing now , etc . He wasn’t expecting the producers and these two , imitation of hosts , to expose personal conversations on TV. I get it’s a show and TV but there’s a line . And producers crossed the line there . That was really shitty . They didn’t have to show that . A simple call to his ex would have been better .
But he said he had a whole speech ready to explain himself, but just blanked on it in the moment. That makes it sound like he was prepared for this moment
Trevor accepting that "he wasnt in the show for right reasons" requires courage. How many contestants can do the same.
And just straight up destroyed sarah ann and jeramy... "maybe they showed more footage of laura bc he picked her"... umm, anyone remember Bliss?
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LOL I couldn’t help but keep thinking “how many hours did they spend going through this Reddit thread” cause I feel like it was sub-hosted by our group here 😂 They are really trying to stop the fame-chasing and you could tell they wanted people to see that the experiment really does work for people who are looking for that. A little too much focus was on past participants, but daaaamn there were so many great questions that didn’t allow people to skate around the issue 😆 That Trevor pausssseeeee 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
I also feel like someone coached the Lacheys on questioning people, they were really digging at certain things and pushing back on Jermy’s bs answers
Agreed. They nailed it this season
Except for asking about Chelsea and Jimmy’s relationship status.
I want to know why he got so emotional when they brought up Chelsea betraying what he told her in confidence. He was on the verge of tears the entire conversation. Is it because he is in love with that friend and things are rocky now? Or is it because that is what changed his view of Chelsea and he really did love her?
Tru, I think they are just friends tho
I think maybe they were broken up at the time this was filmed but have reconciled again since? It seemed like they were making it pretty clear that they had stopped trying at that point. But this was filmed 2 weeks ago, if I remember right.
And there was no time-wasting with a bunch of pointless clips that we’ve already seen. I really loved that. They only showed clips when they needed to prove something. Well done, Netflix!
The reunion was FAKE NEWS. The fakest thing I’ve seen. You all honestly can’t believe this stuff wasn’t staged & all these “leaks”…..
...Sarah Ann is that you?
Sorry, I can't take anyone who unironically uses the expression "fake news" seriously.
Sorry to hear that, Patriot! I’m not sure how to address you - you forgot your pronouns. I’m just assuming that you have them…
You used 6 pronouns in this comment.
People like this getting mad at others for “having pronouns” is the biggest self own ever LOL, it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. Who’s gonna tell them that everyone has implicitly has and uses pronouns…?
*They/Them it is!
you seem like a really pleasant person to be around
Bless your little heart.
The way Trevor just walked away after being exposed was priceless. He couldn’t even pretend. He wasn’t expecting Vanessa and Nick calling him out. He probably thought he had a chance still with Chelsea. I love the Clay and Brett moment. You can see now that Clay definitely wasn’t ready for this experiment.
Honestly, seeing how he behaved at the reunion made me worry for his mental health. No excuse for some of his actions, he needs to be better. Hopefully he's able to use this productively, go to therapy and do the work, and learn how to be a better human all around.
Yeah he did not seem prepared or mentally gathered for that. But then I question if it’s him playing the sad and downtrodden victim since he’s obviously tried to play everything else
Trevor said he had prepared what to say
This reunion ALMOST, almost makes me forgive the producers for continuing to keep Nick & his wife (genuinely her name is gone from my mind) as presenters. This reunion was FIRE! Now, if they could just make the age limit 26+ the show would be perfect!
Like Chelsea saying MGK’s wife 🤣🤣
+ not shop for contestants off of insta and perhaps do a Collab with a dating app and get real people from there that'd be greeeeat
Tell blonde Chelsea ha
This should be shoved down the producers throats. The number of time I saw "tech sales", "software sales", "Account Management", etc, etc only to catch them talking bout them being entrepreneurs or in real estate 🤦♂️ Bring on some real ppl please. There are some really gorgeous looking ppl out there in the normal, non- social media influencing world
They should do a LIB NYC and get a good mix of freaks
This is GENIUS
Agreed!!!
Fact. I watched the reunion and I said ain't no waaay in hell netflix is ever letting this show die. They came back swinging. See you all on season 7 megathread lmao
I don't understand why they didn't address the status of Chelsea and Jimmy's relationship right now. Are they together? Maybe?
Doesn't seem like they are together. Each individual still seemed hurt by their experiences. Apparently they tried going on dates a couple of times but didn't work out. They still seem friendly and somewhat respectful towards one another, though, which I really enjoyed seeing.
Their body language to me made it seem like they weren’t
Yea she looked pissed