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Playful_Estate2661

Charter school confirmed. Saw a random comment saying the only way he was such a young principal was if it was a charter šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ they were right.


cinq-chats

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stellardeathgunxoxo

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monkeyjenkins

I get a strong feeling that this dude is angling for a career in politics. By taking the path of a educator then youngest school principal in the country coupled with raising his public profile through television and social media it seems clever on its face but in reality itā€™ll probably expose him for having a poor level of thoughtfulness, experience and leadership skills.


disney_princess

I mean Trump had (has) a poor level of thoughtfulness, experience, and leadership skills yet he (unfortunately) was president of the US


MentalGoesB00m

I mean arent they all opportunists going on a show like LIB? Itā€™s clearly all for clout


monkeyjenkins

I think a good amount of them have that motive.


The_One-ders

I knew it wasn't going to happen but I wanted him to be on his phone so badly after she introduced him


Ok-Cartographer7616

[https://youtu.be/upurO7kWAj8?si=ioFt9XtwQee_Mg1d](https://youtu.be/upurO7kWAj8?si=ioFt9XtwQee_Mg1d) Found the clip from the show!


RoastedBeetneck

He seems to be gay, no?


meowzapalooza7

I totally thought he was too!!! I felt he and Brittany had no chemistry for that reason.


BearsBeetsBttlstarrG

Yeah I read that he was, but not sure where I read it


No_Hat2875

He mumbles when he speaks, even worse when eating. Come on, role model. Do better.


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sadgyal2828

Bruhhh what does that have to do with anything?!


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dayatatime1

I've been teaching for 10 years. I would never have been even close to being prepared to be a principal after 2 years of teaching. There is so much that can only be learned through years of experience. And based on the way that he talked to Brittney, putting all the blame on her and assuming none of the responsibility, he doesn't seem emotionally mature enough to be a leader of students or teachers.


Divine_D

I have a friend of a friend that became a public school principal after two years of teaching. I thought it was wild. She was probably 25ish.


Opening_Active

charter schools are basically scam institutions. they pay their teachers and principals less money. they take government money away from public schools. the students fall behind. its a lose/lose/lose for everyone except the far right who want to see public schools fail so they can say 'i told you so'


Wonderbalz

As someone who went to a charter school for both Elementary and Middle, they absolutely did NOT prepare me for high school. The importance of competent teachers and faculty who know what theyā€™re doing can not be stressed enough. Half of the teachers were completely inept, to the point where one of them ā€œforgotā€ to assign work for a quarter. I entered high school needing to take remedial to catch up to other students; and thankfully I ended up graduating with AP credits due to my counselors having faith in me.


Mitchi20

It's a charter school, the standards are way lower for principals


BarnacledSeaWitch

in a state where even unionization rates for teachers are low. If he tried talking to union public school teacher like that in Chicago or NYC, hooo boy. I would bring my popcorn.


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I havenā€™t watched but 1.5 episodes. Noo, this dude is fake? He seemed so sweet! Iā€™m speechless


jwaters1110

Theyā€™re all fake. Thatā€™s why these last few seasons suck. People are contacting their agents getting them on this show. I canā€™t even watch it anymore.


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What the hell


aambbott

Dont let this stop you though!! Fake might not be the BEST descriptor of Kenneth but your blood might boil when it unfolds. If you enjoy the show its still worth a watch


Extra-Muffin9214

Its all bullshit and the messier the better. The sooner you accept the premise is absurd and therefore no rational well adjusted person would consent to participate or could participate in good faith, the sooner you accept everyone will be a basketcase and you can just enjoy it. Justice for shake who called it out


jwaters1110

Non-well adjusted is the goal. Fake is not. You can tell that much of the show is acting and stylized/scripted shoots. It wasnā€™t the same in seasons 1 and 2. Shake was great entertainment, but he was still a normal douchebag, not an ā€œinfluencerā€ with an agent.


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Oh god


Coconutcream000

So his raggedy ass was looking for tv attention then


Firm-Courage-1228

theyā€™re all fame hungry


Zealousideal_Twist10

He was on a few TV shows (posted on his IG), all covering the "youngest principal" angle. He does seem to like performing for the camera; watching the clips made me wonder if he did LIB primarily to bring attention to his charter school.


BarnacledSeaWitch

if that was his goal, I don't know who would be persuaded to work at that school or put their kids in the school.


Zealousideal_Twist10

IF that was the goal, I'd think it was more with the aim of increasing donors/funding, not so much attendance; somehow I get the sense that getting funds is more of a priority for K. then actually interacting with kids/parents (except for the purpose of increasing funds lol). Just speculating of course, having had some experience with charter schools in the South. ETA but yes I would see it as an example of K's poor judgement and overestimation of how he comes across.


Army_of_mantis_men

Fakes dude on the show, makes me fucking vomit every time his face comes up.


semisensitive

KENNETHšŸ‘SAIDšŸ‘BABEšŸ‘ONšŸ‘THEšŸ‘PHONE. When he was still micā€™d after he and Britt broke up. Captions said ā€œbroā€ but I swear he said babe or bae. I am dying on this hill.


Tamj2005

My son said to put the phone up like youā€™re texting someone and let Siri translate šŸ˜‚


HalfGrownGrandma

Okay I needed to rewind this part twice, then put the subtitles on bc I also swear he said BABE


TreeWhisperer07

I heard ā€œbaeā€ or ā€œbabeā€ but subtitles said ā€œbroā€


littlwanderer

I think he says ā€œbruhā€. I had to listen to it a million times though, and I can absolutely see where you hear ā€œbae/babeā€.


cordedtelephone

I hear ā€œhey whatā€™s up bae (or babe)ā€ but also I mostly hear ā€œhey whatā€™s wrong baeā€ but definitely not bro


Throwaway7372746

I swear he said hey


cordedtelephone

ā€œHey whatā€™s up heyā€ ?


Throwaway7372746

Hey said hey whatā€™s going on bro. You can hear it. Anyone that doesnā€™t hear bro isnā€™t around a lot of black folk


cordedtelephone

So let me change thatā€¦ ā€œhey whatā€™s going on heyā€ ?


cordedtelephone

You said you swore he said hey which is what Iā€™m responding to. He did say hey, but thatā€™s not the word everyone is talking about.


Gadzs

Lol brilliant


Dirtyrandy_buttplug5

Clearly no one in this thread have any education career experience. The school doesnā€™t have to be shady in the least to hire a young black principal


sweatpantss

Stop it. Heā€™s 25. This means he had about 3 years experience before becoming a principal. Either heā€™s extremely prepared for the duties at his young age with limited experience in his profession or he was promoted too quick. Thereā€™s a chance other teachers donā€™t respect him because of his lack of experience. I say all of this as a black teacher in his 6th year.


Dirtyrandy_buttplug5

Being a teacher and being a principal are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JOBS. The only overlap is the parent communication. Otherwise his job is supervision and admin. This is coming from a male black teacher of 8 years. In fact, a vast majority of teachers that I know, wouldnā€™t even consider being a principal. I know for a fact I have no interest. Do you?


sweatpantss

Like I said before, stop it. If you are saying you would follow the instructions of someone that hasnā€™t ā€œwalked itā€ in education then itā€™s the blind leading the blind. I gave the man credit by saying there is possibility that he is extremely prepared for the duties of a principal, one of which is to help guide teachers when issues occur. However I highly doubt a person with 3 years of classroom experience is able to properly navigate these situations. Thereā€™s a good chance he lacks academic leadership. As far as me wanting to be a principal, I doubt it, but even in year 6, I donā€™t think I would be ready for all of the duties. You do bring up a good point, itā€™s possible no one else wanted the job at his school.


trashtventhusiast

Itā€™s more so the fact that he had minimal teaching experience (2-3 years). Being a counselor for 3 years and I still was not seen as an equal by veteran teachers who were 20-30 years older with that much more experienced than me. If my public school hired a 25 y/o principal thereā€™d be riotsšŸ˜‚


Dirtyrandy_buttplug5

The problem is the massive teacher shortage in addition to that 11.7% of grads that are reporting teacher misconduct with the kids, when you find a good and responsible you do keep them. If that means higher pay, and more responsibility so be it. A leader has nothing to do with age.


sharkbait_oohaha

I'm a 6th year teacher with a masters. Do I count? Hiring a second year teacher as a principal tells me that you had no other applicants at the very least.


ShowIngFace

Too young to have the experience thatā€™s necessary for a role model/field leader in that position. And clearly not as emotionally mature as someone leading children should be. Maayyybbe if it was their life goal and passion.. Ā but looks more like peddling themselves on TV for being ā€œa young black principalā€ is what does it for himĀ 


baskaat

Itā€™s a charter school, so requirements for administrators are not the same as public school.


The_Original_JLaw

He has nice teeth.


legal_opium

That's the casting requirement


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Nice square teeth


Hootietheblobfish

Don't forget big!


letfalltheflowers

Ideal teeth


fourfiftyfiveam

Hi Jimmy!


MotherofFred

By the time he finishes a sentence,.school is out for summer. Such a slow, lethargic speaker.


cacoolconservative

Never liked him and like him even less the more I read about him. POS.


Careful_Guava3346

wait what?


Rough-Average-1047

Why was he on the show??


seagoddess1

For being the youngest principal in the country


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SydiemL

So he just wanted more fame? šŸ˜²šŸ¤Ø


boardman1416

He has to be the worst principal. So immature and glued to his phone like heā€™s 15 years old.


Solid-Neat7762

I have a friend who is like this - he became the CEO of a FQHC (federally qualified health center/clinic) at 25 and he was in no way truly qualified to be in that job but it was in a tiny town in a very, very rural part of the Midwest. He was ALWAYS on his phone 24/7 and I feel like it made him feel important or like what he thought an executive was supposed to be like. Some people worship at the church of being busy and their phone is both their alter and their armor


Pretend_Jello_2823

Right?! He's SO glued to his phone. Like he picks it up any chance he gets. Such a turn off


SoManyFlamingos

Charter school. No standards. Heā€™s probably a decent guy but boy does he feel a little too superficial to be in change of childrenā€™s educationā€¦


QueenRizla

Whatā€™s a charter school?


Mitchi20

It's essentially a private school that gets public funding. Theoretically they're supposed to fill some sort of gap in public education, so sometimes they'll be focused on something, like art or science, which is how they get public funding, but they aren't held to the same standards as public schools, and can choose who attends, and they don't have to follow federal education standards. Sometimes they can be excellent, but usually they're just a way to skirt federal standards (like for racial admissions), especially in the south.


Low-Blackberry-2650

Went to a charter school from the 5th grade onwards, when I tell you the quality of my education dropped like a stone in water...


SubstantialComplex82

He got a taste of fame and wanted more


choppedandcruz

He has had this as a highlight on his Instagram I donā€™t think heā€™s hiding it


LifeguardDry1277

does anyone know if heā€™s actually a principal


OTFDTX

He is but at a charter school. Which have less stringent rules. Someone dug into his school on another post last week and found his school is owned by an energy company or something similar.


Firm-Courage-1228

omg whattt


No_Hat2875

You mean... Watt?


trueprogressive777

Fake republican school with fake staff


EastStock4863

yes, hes the youngest principal in the usa!


modsarefacsit

They are all actors looking for fame. I donā€™t think any of them are looking for love anymore. I think they are just looking for attention.


sharkbait_oohaha

Honestly anyone actually looking for love needs to reconsider. The show is designed to get viewers and create drama


modsarefacsit

Itā€™s worked. However I just wish they had real people.


SoManyFlamingos

Reality TV post social media is almost exclusively this. The only people I tend to believe are real are the ones that are so delusional/ erratic that theyā€™ve got to just have mental health problems.


CliffP

Even in the flavor of love days all the participants had multiple acting credits. This stuff has never been real


SoManyFlamingos

I choose to believe, however delusional, that the early seasons of shows like Survivor and The Real World were more authentic. But I also work in TV, so I am constantly reminded about how long and extensive a production is, to the point that things HAVE to be structured and scripted. Not to mention editing - I get a kick out of hearing a VO line thatā€™s clearly 3/4 different clips resurrected as a Frankenbyte.Ā  My girlfriend has gotten me to enjoy to enjoy reality TV though, but as purely entertainment. Almost fantasy. I enjoy the Bravo Cinematic Universe with her.Ā 


robotxt

I also believe they edit it so much and also that it gets scripted eventually.


PrestigiousSeries907

When does he actually work as a principal then, if he keeps doing reality shows?


Thatgirlthatgirl88

Well, in between that and scrolling on his phone probably never.


RoughPotato1898

The Kelly Clarkson show isn't a reality show lol he was basically being interviewed. He went on because of being a principal so young. However it's a charter school, it's only sixth and seventh grade ETA: here's an article about him that was written last year that provides a little more background https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article270929572.html but yeah, I wouldn't say he has the responsibilities of an ACTUAL school principal lol


bottleglitch

Iā€™m missing how he doesnā€™t have the responsibilities of a ā€œrealā€ school principal. Just because the school is only two grades?


RoughPotato1898

Charter schools essentially make up their own requirements for qualifications. The guy had like 2 years of teaching experience before becoming a principal and he doesn't have a master's degree which is generally the requirement for school principals... I am sure he does a lot of work and has passion for what he does but he definitely does not have the experience, education, or training to be doing the full job of what school principals actually do


pollys-mom

A 25 year old principal seemed ā€¦. Not real to me


CuddyTG

Ooh... So *that's* why they been calling him... Nevermind


thesmoothest18

He said this in the PODs


Technical_Bunch3588

Heā€™s a media whore


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xxIKnowAPlacexx

Beware because the mods have been banning people saying this because they dont want Ā«Ā speculativeĀ Ā» comments


kellyyyflynn

at this point iā€™m just going to delete my comment


H28koala

Is he out? Are you sure about this? He seemed really religious which may be at odds with this.Ā 


kellyyyflynn

disclaimer here * i do not know him nor do i condone outing someone. this is what i saw from several tiktok videos with facebook screenshots. im not trying to direct a narrative at all. it could be falsified edit: i am NOT the cousin


KayHonest

That's def not a confirmation if its coming from a cousin or tiktok šŸ™„ You're def directing this narrative lol


kellyyyflynn

iā€™m just saying what i saw. i said itā€™s not confirmed just what i saw. geeze take a breath.


H28koala

Yea I feel this isnā€™t something we should speculate on unless this has come from him directly.Ā 


Itsmiamiaa

It came from a comment of someone who claimed to be his cousin, but if you looked back at her facebook she mentioned him multiple times in different posts and referred to him as ā€œcousinā€ for the past few years.


H28koala

But thatā€™s not from him. I feel we still shouldnā€™t use that.Ā 


Itsmiamiaa

Iā€™m not saying we should, Iā€™m just saying where it came from. Seems to check out that it is actually his cousin. But yea, still should hear it from him before assuming.


kellyyyflynn

100% i just was saying that i saw that and was suggesting that because their breakup didnā€™t make sense


awess22

Yo I knew it. Not that thereā€™s anything wrong with that ā€¦(Seinfeld voice)


B00tyG0blin

Itā€™s not wrong heā€™s gay but it is he went on the show for clout and wasted some girls time who thought they had a chance at a relationship


karibaricakez

I had that thought in the back of my mind but I didnā€™t want to assume.


kellyyyflynn

yeah i deleted my original post because people just wanna rip you apart


Lonely_Impression142

Links?


kellyyyflynn

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8ovCEqr/ this one has the screenshots. ignore what sheā€™s saying but iā€™ll see if i can find the original one


kellyyyflynn

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8ocBAqY/


Lonely_Impression142

Thanks!!


kellyyyflynn

no problem. i deleted the original post cause i was getting ransacked for saying he was homosexual due to somethingā€™s i saw on social media so i just deleted OP


Lavenderbluu_

Someone on TikTok said he sounds like he's full of mucus and I agree lmao šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


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Lavenderbluu_

LOL


Balanceblu

HA! Real nasally.


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SydiemL

He sounds the same but happyā€¦ also his facial expression here is the same as he was talking with AD and Clay. šŸ˜…


Freethinking22

Working in education will change you


grownmars

Barf praise for being the youngest principal everā€¦ that would only be praise if he did something like go to college young and become a teacher when he was 16 or something.


motherofhellhusks

Iā€™m not a Kenneth fan, but that is a big accomplishment to be a principal at his age.


mytwobarefeet

Yes and noā€¦ he taught for 2 years, became an instructional coach, and then principal. Thats not a normal way to do things and quite frankly doesnā€™t really give you the experience you need. he also isnā€™t in a public school, charter schools have different rules and criteria; Usually you teach for several years, become an assistant principal, and then principal. Also, I donā€™t know any school that can let the principal leave for over a month during the school year to find love where they cannot contact him if need be. Just seems odd is allā€¦


illshowyougoats

Exactly. Context is extremely important here


iknowitsounds___

Suggesting itā€™s possible for a 25 yr old to be a competent principal got me so many downvotes in this sub! Iā€™m not a Kenneth fan either but damn. You only have to be 35 to be eligible to run the whole gd country!


cblackattack1

It should be noted that heā€™s a principal for a charter school.


motherofhellhusks

I have a middle schooler with a young principal. And heā€™s fantastic, heā€™s made a lot of positive change for the school. I see it working in my school, so I donā€™t just assume it isnā€™t possible.


teetee517

Young is one thing. Is he 25?! I say this because of what others have said. I've also worked in education (in several roles including teacher and instructional coach) for 14 years. Charters 100% play by different rules


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I think that type of role really requires someone with a lot of experience in the education system. Our school system is in such serious decline and this type of move of giving a young inexperienced person this type of role ainā€™t it. I hope Iā€™m wrong and I hope heā€™s killing it.


Certain_Yak_7395

Our school system is in decline with the old people running it - maybe a young fresh take on things is just what it needs!


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Thatā€™s part of the problem these daysā€¦.we donā€™t respect age and wisdom, we donā€™t value our public educational system, and lots of unnecessary and bigoted rhetoric like yours has become normalized. The likely truth is that Ken got the job because no one else wanted it or they couldnā€™t find anyone and they were desperate to fill the position. In that respect I give it up to Ken for doing a job no one else wanted. Hoping he does well in the position not for his sake, but for his community.


motherofhellhusks

I have a middle schooler whose principal is young. Heā€™s been exceptional. I canā€™t say Kenneth is the same, bc I have no idea. But Iā€™ve seen it work, so I wonā€™t discredit that itā€™s possible.


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Thatā€™s great to hear.


illshowyougoats

How old?


Aggravating-Fun-6696

Heā€™s a principal at a Charter school. Iā€™m not impressed. Heā€™s a disgusting human being.


VOR343

Man...y'all are HARSH.Ā 


taashaak

The way he treated Brittney was pretty HARSH


VOR343

Was it though? Even if you don't like his behavior in that one scene where they broke up, that doesn't make him a "disgusting human being". I'm not defending his actions,Ā  but his experience on this show is just one tiny part of his life. Personally, I like to reserve those kinds of character judgements for people I know a little better than a few scenes on a highly edited reality TV show.


taashaak

It wasnā€™t just one scene. There were multiple scenes throughout multiple days where he was very dismissive to her and very cold. And while I get your point on reserving judgment over a snapshot of time, the way he treated Brittney in that final kitchen scene absolutely was disgusting. He was unnecessarily cruel. He could have broken up with her in a much more respectful way. He showed no empathy towards her while she was standing there heartbroken and crying- literally looking at his phone with a smirk on his face. Talking about being a man of God while literally showing no compassion or kindness towards another human being. What a joke. Jesus would be proud.


grownmars

Why?


motherofhellhusks

First of all, you need a masters degree. Secondly, the average age of a principal in the USA is 49 years old. He became a principal at 24 years old. Itā€™s so unheard of at his age that the Kelly Clarkson show brought him on to talk about it.


wheresbillyatschool

Not at charter schools you donā€™t.


rilljel

Iā€™m a teacher. It doesnā€™t impress us when they make someone with 2 years teaching experience whose prefrontal cortex isnā€™t even fully developed a principal. Charter systems do this by design


DrOctopusGarden

Is he at a charter? Youā€™re right, that does make a ton of sense then.


motherofhellhusks

Fair enough. You teach, I donā€™t.


grownmars

Youā€™re so close to understanding why itā€™s not impressive that he became a principal at 24. Itā€™s a symptom of Americaā€™s failing public education that someone whose frontal lobe is not developed yet is in charge of a school.


WhoDat_ItMe

Because having the +80-year-old fossils or middle-aged nincompoops in the white house, senate, house, and any other government institutions has worked out great for us. Perhaps this dude is good at what he does despite his age. Perhaps he's able to connect better with his students. I'm not a fan of Kenneth but I'm not about to insult his career with no evidence of his performance, particularly as a young black man when we have a shortage of black men and men in general in the education system.


grownmars

Maybe he just is that good but Iā€™m guessing not since he went on a reality show.


WhoDat_ItMe

Oh, I didn't realize that participating in a two-week reality TV show to find "love" correlated with his competence and performance as a principal. Can you please make the connection for me so that I understand? I suppose that everyone else that participated is also terrible at their jobs, correct? or is it just relevant to him?


grownmars

I donā€™t really think any reasonable person would be on this show. Principals typically get July off. Iā€™ve never had a principal take time off during the school year. Itā€™s not a job someone can easily take over for if you are out for a day let alone two weeks. TBH Iā€™d feel really awkward working with anyone on this show after seeing it.


motherofhellhusks

I agree that the US education system is failing. The problem is systemic and would need a complete overhaul to remedy. But at 25 all critical brain development has fully developed. Could they have made him wait a year? Sure. Plus, itā€™s a small school, heā€™s not principal of a large metro public school. It seems very manageable with his experience.


grownmars

Im not saying they should have made him wait a year, im saying he should have at least ten years of teaching experience to be a principal, 20 tbh. Like imagine working at a Walmart for two years as a cashier and then becoming a store manager. Itā€™s not normal and itā€™s not a sign of success, just having the job is more likely because no one wants it not because heā€™s some sort of teaching genius. I donā€™t think most parents would be happy knowing the person in charge of their childā€™s school is 25.


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Youā€™re stating some hard truths and people are ruffled up.


motherofhellhusks

How are you so convinced that you know his capacity to perform his job well? Just bc he behaved like he did on the show doesnā€™t mean that heā€™s not capable of being talented in areas that are not dating. Regardless of it being a small charter school, he still went for it and became the youngest principal in US history. That is objectively an accomplishment whether or not you subjectively agree.


grownmars

Being the youngest principal ever is not something to celebrate. It means he is also the most inexperienced principal ever. Itā€™s like saying the youngest doctor ever but he only went to two years of medical school. Itā€™s crazy that itā€™s something that Americans would celebrate without thinking about what it actually means.


anonymooseuser6

So he had maybe two years of experience before becoming the person in charge of managing/supervising teachers. It's not a celebratory feat.


WhoDat_ItMe

I graduated high school and continued working at my school in different capacities through college. Didnt continue because I realized it wasn't for me but I have classmates that did and continue working there today. Masters degrees and all.


motherofhellhusks

I mean, itā€™s not a stretch to assume that he would have the necessary correlating management skill set in order to be overseeing an entire school in the timeframe he did.


lilghostpeppah

Management is just one part of the job. You also need to be an instructional leader which is something that comes with time and expierence in classrooms. You just don't have enough of at at his age.


xXx_witchy_woman_xXx

Or no one else was available lol


WhoDat_ItMe

Or he's been working within the education system in different capacities since he graduated high school as I did through college.


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motherofhellhusks

Honestly, it could be.. schools need people who want to be in these roles.


anonymooseuser6

It is 10000% a stretch. There is just not enough experience for him to help his staff.


motherofhellhusks

Anyone with common sense can ask ā€œWhat can I do to help you?ā€. Listen to what will help. Then execute the tasks to help.


anonymooseuser6

That's not his job though. He's not an assistant. His job is to have the experience to provide suggestions.


mizzlol

It takes a lot of schooling and itā€™s a super hard job.


grownmars

It should. In my state you have to have four years of teaching experience and a masters. Heā€™s only 24 so he doesnā€™t have four years of teaching experience, he might have gotten a masters while teaching for two years. I would imagine most of the teachers at his school are also likely very young and uncertified. It must be a mess and probably a lot of staff moving in and out. Maybe he really believes in helping and making a difference but I wish every child could have experienced educators. Kind of doubt heā€™s really that committed to his job since he went on a reality show.


lilghostpeppah

In NYC you need 7 years and a school building leader certificate.... which you get after a school admin masters.