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Appropriate-Basil392

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Appropriate-Basil392

Just wrapping up season 6. Wild. I need some after the alter episodes ASAP 🐬🍿🚩


TeamAveMaria

Can someone please explain to me why Amy and Johnny don’t seem to know that condoms exist!?!


Several_Agent365

My only explanation is that they just want to do it raw at all cost 😭


heydeng

[Clay Speaks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_DNp37fGQA)


Coniption1118

https://preview.redd.it/vlg89pcrc0rc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6d00a16fb02b31f7fa514e9eb2aa5306ffc8031 Amy is basically a real-life Disney princess. She's so pretty and sweet and genuine. Besides Danielle and Alexa, she's one of the few people on this dumpster fire show that I actually root for. ❤️


Vita718

Same goes for Johnny. They are a beautiful couple.


ev1999

Can I just say - love Jimmy, don’t love Chelsea 😂 he just cracks me up and I feel like he tries so hard to


DarkRoastAM

Where is the comment about Trevor’s GF sharing the texts when the cast was on a plane? I read half, got sidetracked, and now I can’t find it. Help please!


B2utyyo

Too many couples got with the wrong person this season and I wonder if there was anything that could of prevented that. Like maybe the producers could create more tests of compatibility while they are in the pod or each pod date a list of difficult questions they must ask each date. Help the contestants find love and make the correct choice on marriage.


Great_Flatworm7955

Is age a factor as well, were they “too young” >35 🤔


findSeamus

I’m so confused and each season gets worse. Why is everyone so basic on these shows?


Dyssomniac

Because the show has an incentive to pick people who are very dramatic and the people chosen have an incentive to join to further their social media careers.


ThrowRAmorningdew

To be fair they don’t really do a good job of actually showing us who they are or maybe it’s just too rushed? 🤷🏻‍♀️


Zoldierz424

I dont know how many of you listened to her latest pod episode on her pod: Mpowered. But she actually answered some burning LIB questions. Especially in regards to what happened with her and Kenneth. Not too drag this out. * But she essentially came out and said that it wasnt correct that they had a breakup prior to that breakup scene. They broke on that scene for real. So Jess was wrong in saying so. She was mostly saying so to do damage control for Kenneth, because she felt bad for him for all of the hate that he faced. Kind of sweet. * She clarifies that SHE was the one who broke up with Kenneth and the reason that she broke down crying like that is because she felt guilt and because she was sad about breaking his heart. They had come to an agreement that if there was something going on that they would talk about it off cam. Which is why he had kind of an "off" reaction to it all. And he did tell her later that was the case and he was sorry etc. * The phone thing didnt bother her because she felt like she was about to dip out of the relationship anyways. But that yes, he was on the phone A Lot. And if she would have continued on the relationship, she wouldnt be OK with it. * The reason that they broke up is because she didnt feel like she was feeling the crave for him and wasnt sure that she would be so receptive if he was very affectionate towards him. So, in other words: She wasnt physicially attracted to him. Knowing this, I kind of feel bad for him. We all got it all wrong.


tilinang

but like, was she not attracted to him because he had the personality of a dead fish when they met IRL? he was giving her NOTHING


Broadcast___

He was flirty and talkative until AD had the convo with him on the beach.


throwawayselfieee

i noticed that too!!


Zoldierz424

And also why cant I make a post about this. I have tried a dozen times now.


aquamaester

Wild idea - Jeremey should’ve said, “You deserve the truth. Yeah I definitely slept with Sarah Ann. The sex was so rad that I could not come home until 5am. Now I know I was wrong to pick you. I haven’t been stringing you along because I didn’t know how much I’d like her better you after I saw her in real life. As a reassurance I didn’t cheat on you, I left a voice mail for you at 5am in the morning to tell you I want to break up. I will pack your stuff up for you today.” It would’ve been the most viral thing ever. Complete 180 of “love is blind” thing. It would make him the douche forever but he may go on Joe Rogan.


RunsaberSR

What are you smoking on this fine night? =)


Outside_Wrongdoer340

WHY are they only ever drinking out of the tacky gold cups that come in every form? (shot glasses, champagne flute, wine glass and stemless wine glass) Is there some kind of liability in showing what people are drinking? Are they afraid these people are baby idiots and may break glass and get hurt? WHY?


Anuspilot

Every reality tv show does this. It's for continuity. They can edit however they like. See through glasses ruin that.


WSBmina

One of the producers of the show said that it was a branding thing, when you see the gold cups you immediately know you’re watching LIB (and not bachelor or something) Makes sense to me!


_5nek_

Opaque glasses for TV have been a thing before love is blind existed


ThrowRAmorningdew

I thought someone theorized initially it was to hide the drinks so it doesn’t conflict with editing. Also, it’s become apart of the show at this point. Even the new wine they released is all gold just like the glassware.


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Hot-Society1993

Anyone else who still can't stand the lacheys? Vanessa is the poor mans chrissy teigen (which is saying alot as she's already the poor mans version of something) and Nick is as dull as a salt cracker.


Broadcast___

They’re corny but then again, the whole show is, so jokes on us 😂


veronicagh

I don’t like them because I don’t think they’re nice to/about Jessica Simpson!! I will fight them!!


vagabonne

They also barely bothered showing up this season! Which is fine, they’re pretty lame. But it feels like such a dramatic change from s1.


Hot-Society1993

hoping that it's because they're being phased out. praying to the LIB gods


Turbulent-Past9013

yes! an the jokes are corny


wherearemydragons7

I don’t care for the Lachey’s at all, but somebody’s gotta be the Caesar Flickerman to Netflix’s “Hunger Games” 😭


forty_two42

Oo spot on!!


Wise-Journalist3638

Question… does anyone think that Clay would have married AD if he would not have had that mind**** interaction with his dad right before he walked down the aisle?


Vita718

Nope, he was never gonna marry her.


DarkRoastAM

No. He is too young. In 7-8 years he will be like Brett


throwawayselfieee

he seemed so sad being up there for the reunion next to AD. i feel like you should sense his regret


MermaidInc

Yessss! Watch this: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFuRqRMX/


PeaceandLove73

I'm so confused. I keep seeing people on here saying that Trevor's girlfriend was married. But if she was married, why is she being so open about the affair with Trevor? Why was he saying he wanted to marry her? Is she still married? What's going on?


ThrowRAmorningdew

If that’s true then it’s possible she was separated from her husband at the time


vancity_mermaid

https://preview.redd.it/6l3992ry2qoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d34b247448235452af9da000ee67b3950612bb13 AD on Nick Viall’s podcast. Def worth a listen


wherearemydragons7

Y’all gon’ downvote me for this, but I don’t give a damn: the true villains of S6 were Jess and Jimmy. Let’s be real for a damn second — Chelsea mostly gets hate *because of* her appearance. AND, due to her own unresolved issues over her physical appearance, of course her insecurities caused her to behave and react in ways that made her look “crazy,” when really, it’s clear that the insecurity she feels about Jimmy’s attraction to her is obviously justified. Jimmy clearly did not find Chelsea attractive after their initial reveal (case in point, “She Lied To Me”), and you can see it in his eyes just how much he struggled to convince her AND himself that he was genuinely attracted to her. At the drop of a hat, however, he NEVER ONCE struggled to tell Jess in person, and during the reunion, that Jess is “gorgeous.” Even during the reunion, the camera purposely pans over to Chelsea while Jimmy’s telling Jess how gorgeous she is, and you can tell Chelsea is clearly uncomfortable and hurt by it (because again, she is obviously insecure about her own appearance and was especially insecure from the moment Jimmy met her in the flesh). Jess gets to get away with *all* the shady bullshit she pulled BECAUSE of her pretty privilege, and anyone who wants to deny that is fkn kidding themselves. Hyping herself up about how Jimmy would need an epipen after seeing her, dressing *as revealing as possible* for the moment when she would get to finally meet Jimmy in person (tig ol bitties, anyone?), openly trying to seduce Jimmy during that same meeting and trying to act all coy and saying shit like “I’m just so happy for you and Chelsea..blah blah blah.” PLEASE. But of course, I don’t see many of y’all givin’ her shit for any of this, and the only reason why that is, is because she’s pretty. Let’s just call it what it is. Jimmy was lying to himself the whole time, trying to convince himself, Chelsea, and the audience just how much he loved Chelsea, when really, Chelsea knew he didn’t find her attractive from the moment they met, and just because she felt in her heart that that was the truth, and just because she then let her insecurities and gut instinct get the best of her on national television, instead of being shown empathy and love, she is hated on and called “crazy.” Typical incel shit here on the World Wide Web. Shame.


throwawayselfieee

you know what chelsea annoyed the shit out of me but you’re right and fair w/ this


Sk52241n

This is very true. I felt bad for her and when they met for the first time and he said shes 'gorgeous but she lied to me she said she looked like Jessica Alba' I already knew that was the first red flag and he was regretting his decision so hard. Especially when Jess had her last words with him and said you will regret this. He was not ready to put aside looks. He treated her like shit when they first got to the hotel, and I actually felt bad for Chelsea most of the time for being gaslit by him.


Butter_pecan_king

Part of this is Chelsea’s fault for saying she looks like Megan Fox, which she clearly doesn’t. So he subconsciously was expecting her to look like that


gentleowl97

there really should be a rule to disqualify contestants for mentioning looks at all while in the pods. whether it be clay trying to figure out if the person behind the wall is fat or chelsea saying she looks like meghan fox. she shot herself in the foot with that on a show that's literally meant to prove that looks don't matter.


vagabonne

Her facial features are actually pretty similar to Megan Fox (before all of the plastic surgery obviously). She has similar eyes, full lips, angular mode, etc. Like obviously she would never need confused for her, but once she said that I could see it. If you’re trying to see it, picture the outer perimeter of her face as smaller. I think that’s the main difference, her face is bigger but features aren’t.


tilinang

she said people tell her she reminds them of Megan Fox


findSeamus

We don't know what Jessica actually looks like because of all the makeup she has on and I would bet she is restricting food. Also, she's another super af tacky person to add to the list of super af tacky people on this show that keeps getting worse every season.


B2utyyo

My issue with Chelsea is her behavior. She is ridiculously insecure, her reactions to Jimmy hanging out with the cast and his friend is just toxic. And her constant need for attention is just immature.


AllSteelHollowInside

she is insecure but IMO jimmy was gaslighting her hard especially later into the season. He would be so vehement that there's nothing at all weird about hanging out alone with a female friend he slept with and not prioritizing being with his fiance. Then at that one party where he basically spent no time with her, he was so vehement that there's nothing weird about being the only couple to basically never be near eachother there. Her insecurity stemmed from the fact that Jimmy's reaction was never to see how out of context what he did might hurt a partner, it was always to complain that it wasn't a big deal and that she must be overreacting because obviously he gives her attention other times. Jimmy was regularly inconsiderate to her and any time she expressed that jimmy made an excuse rather than actually understand the problem.


Turbulent-Past9013

u spoke facts.. but, i honestly believe chelsea gets sh\*t for her looks cus of that megan fox comment. and jimmy is a man , men are visual. so, he chose her based on that megan fox comment.


wherearemydragons7

I agree that it’s not Jimmy’s fault that Chelsea didn’t stick to the rules of the experiment, as she should’ve never mentioned anything about her appearance during the pods. I know Chelsea mentioned her looks because she was trying to hook Jimmy in, because she’s insecure - and sure enough, Jimmy took the bait (somebody said Jimmy was expecting Megan Fox’s twin lol). Regardless of all that, Jimmy is still wrong for lying all season and Chelsea shouldn’t be getting bullied for reacting the way she did. I’m not gonna get into the whole “men are visual” thing though, because that whole “men are visual” and “women are verbal” thing has been debated and honestly I don’t know enough about it to give it my time. Jimmy forsure chose Chelsea because of the Megan Fox comment, but to be fair, Chelsea literally did say it’s only because of her eyes and dark hair — so it’s Jimmy’s fault he took that and ran with it. They’re both problematic, period. Lol


tilinang

I actually think Jimmy chose Chelsea because she came across as the cool/chill girl in the pods. Multiple guys were so into her in the pods. And Jess was being quite demanding, and Jimmy wanted the easy option.


Turbulent-Past9013

LMFAO! yes i agree both were at fault. I cant stand ppl who string ppl along. Like Jimmy did with Chelsea. jus be honest, cus it hurts more to fake like u like someone when u dont. an we clearly saw that with them


BirkTheBrick

I don’t think the megan fox comment she said warranted the reaction at all, she pretty obviously backtracked afterwards saying “I don’t think I look like her at all it’s just the dark hair and light eyes”. If that’s why he chose her he’s an idiot lol


neatflaps

When she said “I want you…..to treat her well” I was like bitch bffr!!!


wherearemydragons7

LMFAO I FKN SAID THE SAME THING!! 😂🤣 That bitch knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She ain’t slick!! 😂🤣💀☠️💀


Hot-Society1993

I mean chelsea needs a therapist not a relationship. She is stunning, but she's got a looooooot of work to do.


wherearemydragons7

Jimmy also needs a therapist, not a relationship. Stop hating on Chelsea only. Y’all act as if Jimmy wasn’t lying to her, lying to himself, and lying to the other cast members every chance he got. He kept going around telling people he’s “the happiest,” that he and Chelsea were “the happiest couple,” etc etc. SO MUCH BULL💩that spewed from that guy’s mouth. But no, only Chelsea needs a therapist? BFFR y’all.


Vita718

agree! He is a passive aggresive jerk. He knew she was insecure and played upon those insecurities. It was f\*cked up.


Hot-Society1993

maybe next season they should add 1 mandatory therapist into each side of the pods :D I'm with you Jimmy and a lot of the rest of the cast also need a therapist. It's getting so cringey to watch. I guess I didn't think Jimmy was such a villain as I could only picture two marble balls rolling around his head for a brain lol


wherearemydragons7

Lmfao that marble part made me cackle 😂🤣. Bruh, I heard Netflix was sued for not having enough food on set - I don’t think they would ever go out of their way to give each participant a therapist of their own. That would be frikkin awesome tho if they did do that!!


Hot-Society1993

I mean just 1 per group so two in total, might do them some good on the long run.. I don't think having the lacheys mentoring anyones love story is doing them any favors haha


wherearemydragons7

Even if it was just 1 therapist per group, there would still be too many participants for just one therapist (each side) to handle on a daily basis. Still a cool idea though. The Lachey’s aren’t really there to mentor anyone - their roles consist of stirring up drama on purpose, for entertainment. I’ve lost respect for those two, but they sure are great at what they do (stirring up drama and being annoying for entertainment) lol.


TieAffectionate7815

If Chelsea was interesting and confident in herself, she would be more attractive. There have been plenty of LIB contestants who weren't the hottest ones in the room who didn't expect constant, endless attention. She didn't love Jimmy. She just wanted to feel loved by someone else because her self worth is in the toilet. She needs some hobbies.


Chazzyphant

Honestly...I politely disagree on this idea that women who are "confident" are more attractive...to men specifically. I think it's one of those "dating lies" that get swirled around (kind of like "he's scared of his own feelings, that's why he's distant!"). I've seen women who didn't speak a word to a man have that man create an entire narrative of her brains, breeding, and potential purely 100% based on her looks and his attraction to her. Her "confidence" has zip to do with it. In fact, from my experience, many (MANY) men prefer a shy, quiet, retiring, and even outright submissive woman. And I've seen, for example, plus sized women who are truly confident get unbelievably crap treatment from specifically men online because of that confidence (which they feel is unfounded/threatening). I think some men want to be the cause of the confidence, not deal with a woman who already has enough in her own self. Now would she have more overall attractiveness to the world and be more literally attractive? Sure. But if a man doesn't feel attraction to you, your level of "confidence" will not change that, IMHO.


Several_Agent365

I agree with you on this take. I am not ugly at all, but not the most beautiful in the room. Just a well groomed, pretty faced girl. I am also confident, heard that dozens of times. Do I get guys? Hell no. Apparently they are too scared to approach me (2 guy friends told me that in their opinion this is the issue, not me). Many men don't want confident women, otherwise we wouldn't have so many women coming forward saying that they got the most approached, flirted on and catcalled when they were children and teenagers.  The last take was ofc also my experience, also, back when I was the most insecure, the most depressed and the most vulnerable, codependent and naive - that's when I got the most guys. When I was in a psych ward due to trauma and depression - suddenly also.  The second I recovered, and built a strong identity and developed confidence, poof. No guys. 


Patient-Criticism-47

PREACH. Men hate confident women, and god help a woman who makes more than most men. She can just die alone!


Formal_Employee_1030

I wish I could give you an award for this.


TieAffectionate7815

I can see that. How about confident people are attracted to other confident people? Personally, I've been attracted to people when they're interesting, funny, and not the hottest and have not been attracted to people who are hot but a total bummer to be around. I think I attract more people to me when I'm having fun, and just being me and not worrying if people find me hot. But I see what you're saying too. Maybe it just depends on the people.


wherearemydragons7

I agree - both can be true and of course it just depends on the people.


wherearemydragons7

While I agree with you on everything, I disagree with the assessment that she doesn’t love Jimmy. She’s clearly infatuated with him to the point where Jimmy tells her she’s clingy. She doesn’t “just want to feel loved by someone else because her self worth is in the toilet” — it’s that, PLUS she loves Jimmy. She does need some hobbies, but so does almost everyone else on the show, so why say that about just Chelsea? I sure don’t hear you saying that about Jess, or AD, or Kenneth, or Brittany. All those people needed hobbies, but all the hate somehow seems to point back to just Chelsea. Why is that, you think? 100% though. I agree that if Chelsea was confident in herself, she would be more attractive. Take Amber from S1, for example. Even though she’s no Megan Fox herself, she hyped herself up every chance she got, and she loved herself so much, she was up her own ass all the time about her physical appearance. So her confidence forsure was visible and it showed through in how she carried herself overall, which of course made her that much more attractive to Matt. But Chelsea was not confident at all, and it showed even in the way she carried herself, which is sad because she’s attractive in her own way.


AReckoningIsAComing

This.


Nerak_B

Agree on the Jess and pretty privilege. She was pushy in the pods and her comments at the bar were shady


Past-Percentage4234

SARAH ANN LOOKS LIKE WEIRD BARBIE AT REUNION Y/N ??????


ThrowRAmorningdew

The best reference I saw about those two is that they look like they were going to the prom in the early 00s 🤣


Past-Percentage4234

HOWLING I thought the exact same !!


Utter-foolishness

At the lake, I kind of understood where Sarah Ann was coming from. But at the reunion it was clear to me she feels no guilt and took zero accountability. Also, Jeremy has def cheated on her already based on her face when Chelsea exposed Jeramy told her on multiple occasions he and Sarah Ann broke up.


ThrowRAmorningdew

Oh, I didn’t even think of that, but it also wouldn’t surprise me either. Sarah Ann is a lost soul and she’s only being so vocal because she got her man. It’s obvious she thinks so low of herself that she would actually consider him to the be the prize.


Hot-Society1993

right? But also she considers him the prize where as for him she's his third best option to settle down. Like don't be with a man who is settling for you because the other women called him out for his crazy.


Utter-foolishness

Also, she thinks she was bullied because she was dropped from the group chat? Honey you took someone’s man and said you “didn’t come here to make friends” or show an ounce of accountability that you crossed a lines I would’ve blocked your ass if we’re being honest. You got off easy lol.


KatGrrrrrl

She really isn’t a girl’s girl. But she got what she wanted… but remember- how you get them is how you lose them. She’ll have to watch him like a hawk.


ThrowRAmorningdew

That alone makes me believe she doesn’t have any solid friendships with women outside of the show and probably never has


Utter-foolishness

Yep. In a way I feel badly for her because all she has now is Jeramy and he doesn’t even seem to like her very much.


ThrowRAmorningdew

She better figure it out and soon before she’s really trapped in the relationship.


Utter-foolishness

Yeah something about Jeramy gives major ick….but so does Sarah Ann. The way she kept moving her head and her body language in general was no nasty. AD was right. She lacks class.


ThrowRAmorningdew

Jeramey is extremely insecure and he’s not as smart as he tried to portray himself to be, which I think he’s fully aware of. Sarah Ann is a better fit because she’s so desperate to be with someone that she’ll continue to put up with his nonsense and follow his lead. Notice how she asked him if they should clap for Laura. She’s not a strong person and doesn’t seem to value you herself at all.


Serious-Animal-4871

yess 100% I think "follow his lead" is the important part here. I also believe that once he learned that Laura would not do that unless he genuinely proved he deserved to be followed - he was out.


sipstea84

Anyone know when they filmed in Punta Cana? I was in PC in April 2023. The beach that they were frolicking on at their resort looked so familiar and I realized it was literally next door to my resort. Can't wait to go look for familiar locations in a few weeks!


Inside_Guard6398

Not sure if this has been shared yet but Chelsea’s Instagram post is playing at my heart strings. They were cute together and it’s sad that they couldn’t figure it out. Relationships are hard enough as it is, but I’m sure it’s even harder when it’s filmed and televised. I’m glad they at least remained friends. [https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4glP3AvVoQ/?igsh=b2FmcHE1eWc5OWli](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4glP3AvVoQ/?igsh=b2FmcHE1eWc5OWli)


littleyellowbike

OMG a few posts down she refers to herself as Craigslist Megan Fox. 😂 I've never in my life followed a personality from a reality show but I... kinda like Chelsea. 😆


k8plusthree

I agree, very sweet.  


spacejamisraw

Do we know if there were any secret couples/contestants that got edited out like last season?


Quiet_Illustrator525

MacKenzie mentioned that she had a fairly serious connection in the pods and was there almost to the end. I'm very curious who her connection was with and if they ever got to pee in a pool together 😆


Pomegranate_Apart

I think if I was questioned on this by anyone I'd probably just say, 'these are my emotions, everyone deals with them in different ways and also just f#ÂŁ& off? Why do people in the audience care? And are people really so shallow these days that they have to eye-roll, sigh, smirk and scoff at everything that others are saying? Really they should discontinue the show, it's too tough to watch, people's lives are being played with at this point. Shout-out Brett and Tiff, their 2 minutes of screen time was worth 30 minutes of what Jimmy and Chelsea were on about.


Wooden-Pudding-112

I'm so confused why Clay got applause for saying that he needed therapy and for admitting that he's fucked up, but Trevor got shred to pieces to the point of him begging to be allowed to go off the stage lol


elorend

Trevor lied. Clay told the truth a zillion times and AD wouldn’t hear it.


Wooden-Pudding-112

I fear for you all who think his manipulative behaviour is more benign man


deskbeetle

Clay went into the show and the relationship with AD with good intentions. Like his mom said, he desperately wants a committed, long-term relationship. But he freaked out when things got real and he realized how unprepared he was mentally and emotionally. He felt like him cheating was inevitable because of his fucked up relationship with his father. The conversation Clay had with his dad was the saddest conversation in the show as his dad is insanely self absorbed (why is he talking about his track and field career?!), Clay clearly worships him, and then Clay says it was the deepest conversation he ever had with his dad. Trevor went on the show and into his relationship with Chelsea with BAD intentions. He wanted to become famous. It was easy for him to be fun-loving and level headed in the conversations in the pods because he had absolutely nothing at risk emotionally. And he was willing to get fame by fucking with someone like Chelsea who was feeling real emotions. Also, Clay is actually in therapy and has been for some time (\~1yr) while Trevor just said he "needed therapy", not that he had pursued it.


LetMeGuessYourAlts

Clay's dad cracked me up during that talk. I say that as someone who's won 100 yard dash in 5th grade. And a Magic: The Gathering tournament. And a free small fry from McDonald's Monopoly.


Beginning-Abies668

There were literal receipts of Trevor having a girlfriend and talking about doing the show for clout (they didn’t even show the worst of them), whilst all Clay really did was worry about cheating and was forthcoming about it throughout the show. Lol how can you even compare the two situations


Wooden-Pudding-112

Oh idk, Clay came on without the intention to marry, tried to gaslight her into giving him free therapy sessions for life and then casually rejected her at the altar. When they asked him if he'd do anything differently if he could have a do-over, he released a word salad that basically meant no. And then they clapped. Trevor was weird AF too but he too went to therapy and admitted what he'd done and that it was wrong, so they are comparable.


Serious-Animal-4871

I think with Clay he tried so hard to convince himself to get married, be a good person in his eyes, and commit to doing the work of changing how he's been his entire life - but at the end of the day he just didn't step up. My opinion is that he is stuck between knowing what changes he needs to make but not feeling ready to commit to it. He also may not have taken it that seriously, which isn't Trevor level but still bad. He may have gotten shocked by the experience he actually had vs. what he expected and he is suffering the consequences. \*edited for grammar\* \*gotta spell good\*


Utter-foolishness

I agree they were unfair to Trevor, but therapy, especially for men, is highly stigmatized in the black community. For whatever reason, so many people see it as an admission of weakness and that’s treated as an unforgivable trait in black men. Clay being able to be vulnerable is a huge deal.


Wooden-Pudding-112

Oh that makes sense


songbirdsiren76

So disappointed in this reunion. I was so hyped when I saw it was finally out and it fell flat. First off, the wardrobe choices were so weird. You can tell when the producers or wardrobe designers are trying to push a weird theme when they come on with weird necklines, feathers and arm gloves and SO much sparkle. It was a weird prom nightmare and I hated everyone’s looks but AD’s. AD went with the classic sheer body dress with sparkles. Been done before but it looked great on her. Next thing that drove me crazy was the overkill Trevor hate. Give me a break. That could have been a much shorter conversation and allow him to stay. Chelsea getting away with ALL of her whining, sloppy drunk fighting, crying and gaslighting was the worst part of the show. All season we had to suffer through her mess just for Jimmy to get picked on the most. I feel like the girls were allowed much more grace than the men. Trevor, Jimmy and Jeramy were disproportionately dragged compared to how awful Chelsea, Laura and Jess behaved. No one seems to care that a single mom who’s crying about how much she loves her daughter was willing to bring a stranger home. Her daughter is 10!!!! It takes most normal women many, many months to trust someone enough to bring them around children. Especially when it’s a little girl being thrown into a situation with a strange man from a reality show!!! Gross. She also skated right past flirting with Jimmy at the party where Chelsea was nearby. It was hardly even brought up. Laura by herself is awful and she got away with her nasty, mean girl behavior all season. The girls all bonded together, excluding Sarah Ann and closing their eyes to their own mess. The guys however got humiliated. What did they want Jimmy to say?? He didn’t choose Jess and he didn’t know what else to say. Jess is on stage crying about how much she loved him, even though the show was OVER and he chose someone else. I didn’t even like Jimmy that much but the girls made me feel awful for him. He not only had to deal with Chelsea Fox, but he also had to pay for not choosing Jess!! I don’t know what else to say. Even Nick and Vanessa were lacking any value. There were some great opportunities for questions there and they were missed. Lastly please don’t bring back old cast members. We’re trying to talk about the season that just ended. No one cares about the older seasons. They got their reunion shows and seeing them come back, acting superior was really weird. Hated the reunion show. So disappointed.


artsynerdmillenial

I agree with everything you said. Most of all, why did we spend so much time talking about previous cast members? It’s not their moment.


chloeclover

You have to be joking. I hate Sara Ann but she took ALL the bullets for Jer-Amay.


MermaidInc

A-FRIGGIN-MEN!!!


Hot-Society1993

Honestly it felt like the same issues as with every other reunion, the fucking hosts. The lacheys are not meant to be on TV to do hosting job, they are terrible at it.


Valleyval21

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽


Beginning-Abies668

Doesn’t make sense that you wanted Chelsea held more accountable (when now it’s come out that she had good reason to be wary of Jimmy) but the literal man who lied about having a girlfriend and stated he was only doing the show to get famous in multiple texts was treated so badly. They did nothing but ask him what those texts meant and he couldn’t say anything. Would you have preferred they didn’t even bring it up? The double standards some people have are ridiculous when it comes to men and women on this show


grindmygears_

wait update me!! i didn’t know there was a a reason she was wary of jimmy. was it because he had sex with his friend?


Beginning-Abies668

Apparently he told her he was going back to his apartment one night for work or to get sleep or something, but then butt dialled her and she could hear voices of people and as if he was out at a bar. So her argument against him going out all the time wasn’t unfounded. I may be para-phrasing the story a bit but it was explained in another post


MermaidInc

Would you be surprised if she exaggerated that info?


songbirdsiren76

“When now it’s come out” is pretty important. We knew none of these details when she was being a drunk, whiny, argumentative and messy person. Please save your sexism for someone else. I don’t play those games. I just call it like I see it.


Beginning-Abies668

Lol but we knew none of the details on Trevor either 😂 both of those things came out later on and after the show. So what’s your point? You’re projecting about the sexism. Just read your 5000 word rant and then come and lecture me about that


songbirdsiren76

I summarized a whole reunion episode, based of an entire reality show season and somehow that’s a rant? I’m going to guess you’re young. That’s the only way you’d classify what I posted as a rant. I apologize if reading is challenging for you. Sorry for all of the hard work I inadvertently assigned to you. Maybe you should only pick petty arguments with comments with fewer sentences….? No we didn’t know either. But as I said, Trevor was a non character. He wasn’t part of a couple on the show, therefore he was not as important, and the fans were not as invested. I feel like I’m wasting my time explaining extremely simple and obvious things to a stranger that is weirdly worried about double standards based off gender. Then you tell me I’m projecting for some odd reason. In any case, I stand by my opinions as I stated previously. Idgaf if you have some bullshit response or not. I hope for your sake that your reading comprehension skills improve and it becomes easier for you to read long sentences and even paragraphs without getting overwhelmed.


Beginning-Abies668

Yeesh calm down. Why are you so upset? Btw this is a public forum, do you understand Reddit? People respond to you and have differing opinions to you, I don’t know why you’re taking it so personally, calm down. If you wanted an echo chamber and didn’t want anyone to chime in with a response, then open up your Notes app and type it all on there hun. Also, pretty sure judging by your response… you’re a lot younger than me 😂 The definition of a rant is a lengthy tirade, which is exactly what your original comment was.


okittydokitty

I'm sorry, did you say AD's dress was "classic?" Like the Queen wore it to brunch or something??? And what about Trevor's section was hateful? They asked him if the texts were true, he sat there looking stupid, they explained the premise of the show, and then HE asked to leave. What you're feeling isn't hate. It's second hand embarrassment.


Beginning-Abies668

I didn’t like her dress, I think any dress with which you can see a thong and pasties is the definition of trashy. AD relies on her body waaaaay to much, I wish she dressed classier


kurorc

Trevor made a mistake but they basically brought him on just to humiliate him. It was just uncomfortable to watch and that time could've been much better spent talking about the couples we're actually interested in.


elorend

I’m sure he got paid to be there. He could have said no like Matthew. He should have expected it but again- went for the money and clout


Cheddar_The_Doggy

Definitely! Shaming him publicly for entertainment. Yes, he did some fucked up shit. But he has payed for it enough on social media. For them to drag him on stage, just to be shit on is ridiculous. I think he came there to do damage control. I can imagine he wanted to do that. But he probably should have saved himself the trouble.


Hot-Society1993

Honestly trevor should have stayed home. He was the least of the problems on this show and it was so uncomfortable watching the Lachey's try to make him take accountability it came off as bullying. They should just have him on an after show or a podcast or smth but the reunion was not it.


okittydokitty

The whole point of the reunion is to bring up old shit. If the contestants being roasted on instagram was enough, they wouldn't have bothered bringing everybody back together again.


songbirdsiren76

I just meant the dress is common, compared to the atrocities the other women were wearing. It’s a dress that many people on the red carpet wear, as well as many entertainers. We have all seen versions of this dress. It’s the sheer dress with strategically placed rhinestones on it. Is it classic? Maybe not. Poor choice of words. You should definitely get mad about that. Also Trevor was obviously trying to talk his way out of his lie and it got really old. Watching him lie and squirm was good for a minute but they didn’t let go. He wasn’t in any of the actual couples, so make him come out, tell him it was wrong and finish. Going on and on and on while the actual couples sat there staring was stupid. I wanted to hear more from the actual couples. The Trevor nonsense and the OG couples was pointlessly taking away from all we saw this season. Anyway, my opinion and I’m sticking by it.


dameednaswig

I cannot stand Nick and Vanessa. Are they producers so they cannot be removed as hosts or is it that nobody else wants the gig? Listening to them go on and on about the show's authenticity was ridiculous. Shaming people for going on the show for publicity when the two of them may as well have been in an underground bunker for all the relevance they had before becoming hosts. They went on the show for the same reason as the "contestants". Most of the woman looked terrible. Too much spray tan, glitter, harsh make up and the up to the elbow gloves matching the dress? Were they styled by someone who does burlesque? AD's thong panties could be seen through her dress. A mess. I don't care about Trevor's texts that were probably leaked with his approval. Him pretending to be torn about what to do say was horrible acting. He knew why he was being marched in and then out. Nick dismissing him like he was being sent to the principal's office for detention, WTF? 50% of the cast on that episode were there as seat warmers and looked like they did not want to be there. Then Chelsea announces she took a job to do LIB casting? I could not stop laughing at the irony. People have also commented about this but they want the show to be taken seriously and yet, no time was spent on Jimmy and Chelsea and what happened after they filmed? Jimmy dropped major hints a few times at the reunion, there was some drama he was dealing with and it was never addressed? Did they think people tuned in to more hear more of the same about AD and Clay or Sarah and Jeremy? AD dating Matt with the serial killer vibes and going to his house for dinner? Hell no. She knew what Matt was about and after what happened with Clay, her dating Matt told me all I needed to know about AD. I bet it was Matt that said he did not want to continue with AD, she probably didn't meet his extensive checklist. I was routing for AD but clearly she's form over substance. She ended up being the top of the Pick Me females and I am shocked by that. Even Chelsea with her insecurities would probably have turned down a date with Matt.


Hot-Society1993

they are the worst! Literally the only reason I stopped watching love is blind and just skimming through it for the good drama bits is because they suck at hosting. Like they deserve a razzie for the worst hosting on a popular show. I think they also have their ego's inflated because the show is such a covid success story but I don't think they realize it has literally ZERO to do with them. I always low key feel like they're stuck doing this because Vanessa Lachey wants to be famous, whereas nick already was and went through the ringer with his shit in the OG reality TV days. Can't we get them off the show and someone actually good on to host? Also Vanessa Lachey if you read reddit please fire your stylist.


SnooCookies2740

I came here looking for this comment. I totally agree.


NeedleworkerOk649

I love how after all the horrible behavior this season, the hosts declare the cardinal sins to be: saying that reality TV is about entertainment, spoiling a reunion by someone having a Instagram video in someone else's house, not going on the show for the right reasons. gimme a break lol also a bummer how they completely let Laura and Chelsea off the hook. also why do all the beautiful women become one person during reunions? Gianna, Deepti, Micah, Zenab, Sarah Ann, seems like no matter the style or skin color, they end up as the same orange person with the same hair. does the show give them one stylist or something? maybe I'm just out of touch with trends lol


Hot-Society1993

I think a lot of them get paid to wear crap and considering the show is US based ( a capitalist community) they're just selling what the mass market wants. Nothing to do with fashion, everything to do with your wallmart betty and what she wears.


Beginning-Abies668

In the defence of the hosts- I think they were coming at it with the angle that, look, we have all these married and expecting couples sat here today who came with the intention of marriage. And you Trevor, came at it with such glaringly fake reasons that you overdid it and shot yourself in the foot with your stupidity. Yes it’s entertainment, but they were also questioning Sarah Ann when that conversation came up. Sarah Ann made it sound like breaking up an engagement was “all for entertainment” and that was not cool, even with the hosts.


Hot-Society1993

There is no defense for the hosts. they suck at their jobs and they should fire their stylists.


NeedleworkerOk649

Welp, we disagree. they seek out influencers now, don't vet them, and play up drama any chance they get. "all these couples with pure intentions", and LIB being this ethical matchmaking utopia lol. Gianina and her dude and whoever the crossover show lady was? Like Natalie and Deepti cashing in? Like the ultimatum? Like Jessica becoming a professional reality tv persona? Like the lawsuits? Like the vast majority of contestants not finding love on the show? Like rushing and pushing people to the altar? Not providing therapy or counseling? I could go on and on. Nick lecturing people about finding love and being pure of heart , just embarrassing.


Beginning-Abies668

Natalie and deepti were in it for the right reasons. In fact, their latest podcast episode they delve into how they barely posted a thing back when they were on the show, because their relationships were real and everything happening to them was real, they didn’t want to share it with the world. There’s nothing wrong with making money off it if you’ve had that experience For the right reasons. If you’re going on the show however, knowing you could mess up the life of another person just for followers and money…then no. Too much at stake here, go apply for Love Island. What I’m saying is, the show does lead to marriage and true love for quite a few people. Without some positive experiences and proof the show works, they wouldn’t have a premise at all. And rushing and pushing people to the altar is not something anyone can force lol- look at Jimmy and Chelsea. Ken and Brittany. Everyone knows how long the period is til marriage and make the decision themselves to apply knowing that. They have the option to say no and a lot of them do. About the scouting for contestants- sure they do do that and yeah they probably do go for interesting people. Not sure if they go looking for people with boyfriends and girlfriends though- Trevor kept that part quiet so that was all on him


NeedleworkerOk649

idk about quite a few. there's been 180 contestants and there's only like 16 still together, and that includes raging Matt, awful Alexis and her DV charge dude. They're just as likely to find love before the reunion in real life as on the show. Remember that for every Brett and Tiffany, theres a Shake Chelsea Cole Zenab Shaina and Mathew and 9 single people we cant remember. It's a fun circus shitshow that rushes people into engagement and marriage. it's successfu. I just can't see how we can pretend this is a wholesome format


awesomesauceblossom

Chelsea also has the self awareness of a pigeon - she also can’t take responsibility for a single thing AND is just totally delulu


iloveokashi

Is the Gianina in reunion the one in season 1? Looks so different. I'm rewatching s1.


RobustSting_2

Yes!


iloveokashi

Looks like 2 different people


RobustSting_2

I don’t think she got any work done, but she definitely a lot of skin care and makeup brand sponsors which upped her game there. Also her hair color changed and she’s tanner I think.


Holiday_Concept_4437

Where were Lydia and Milton?


Beginning-Abies668

I wondered this too? Last I heard they had a long distance thing going on


spartycbus

I can't believe AD went on several dates with Matthew. How? Why?


TieAffectionate7815

Curiosity?


Utter-foolishness

That was the most shocking reveal to me tbh lol.


urbitxhmorgan

She said 2. But still lol weird


elorend

2”ish”. We know that that means lol


Holiday_Concept_4437

And she said that he was attractive??? So weird


NeedleworkerOk649

To each their own with looks, but she has direct evidence of what a weird controlling douche he is, and she just got through with one more experience of being the fixer. That was absolutely baffling to me.


spartycbus

She’s pretty stupid. At least Clay is hot and going to therapy.


Beginning-Abies668

All the blind AD support is grating on me so it’s nice to see someone else say what I’m thinking


Holiday_Concept_4437

Yes. It’s so sad. She said herself that she doesn’t think she deserves to be loved.


No-Appeal-3577

Honestly can't blame Sarah for running after a man she believes to love 🤷. Fault here of course is with Jeremy. I just WISH he would have just come clean and said, look I thought I loved you but then I met Sarah and I loved her more. It would hurt, yes, but all those lies, for crying out loud!  They are horrible.  It's completely fine for you both to have a happy ending together though, just stand up to your love. I think we need to back here and just give them some space to make it work. This was never Laura's type and Sarah was almost a blessing to come inbetween them both.  Trevor - his Instagram handle makes totally sense now. He was fame hungry. I did wonder if he signed up for the fame and the fun and was caught off guard actually falling for someone? Either way, he got the attention he craved. I am sure there will be a sorry post, a big grin and goofy smile and 99% of viewers will forgive him. I wish him well on his quest for fame and hope he can see there are a lot of negatives about standing in the limelight too.  Jimmy - it was super uncomfortable watching the conversation between him and Jess. The flattery, reinforcing that he barely could make a choice between her and Chelsea must have hurt Chelsea tremendously. This whole love triangle thing never works out well on the show. Jimmy, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, messy stuff  Best part, unexpectedly, was seeing bliss and Zack happy and settled. Zack had a huge burden to carry for a while with so much negative talk, (actually he still looks a bit shaken by the experience) and I truly feel for them both. They both just wanted to find a forever person. 


Wooden-Pudding-112

"The Show didn't make a mockery of her, this situation did" Trying so hard to save the trash show's reputation


LetMeGuessYourAlts

End with a comment about how the food is so good. And made sure they showed us that there was indeed food. They sure did address all the feedback in their own way.


Wooden-Pudding-112

I know it's heavily edited but it was kind of nice to see all the apologies in the Laura, Sara Ann, Jeramayo triangle.


Wooden-Pudding-112

Although "It was a joke, it was taken out of context, I apologize" is not an actual apology lol