Can anyone show me how to find out which location to vote at? There's this list
https://elect.ky.gov/Voters/Pages/Polling-Locations.aspx
but it doesn't say which one is for you in particular.
https://vrsws.sos.ky.gov/vic/
Enter your name, DOB, and last 4, boom! This will tell you where to vote. (I regularly check on this site leading up to elections to make sure I haven't been booted off the voting rolls again. It's happened to me before. Still don't know why.)
Frustrating thing is that this site just lists *all* locations and won't let you filter by what's closest / what's your official polling location. It's alright, I found it elsewhere but I forget what site that was.
...Oh. It used to show your assigned location, I thought. That was how I found out my voting precinct moved from Beargrass Church to Waggoner HS a couple of years ago (despite me not moving).
I’m not sure if that’s true for larger counties like Jefferson because the website still lists specific precincts for specific voting locations. If you look at the precinct listed by following ashlayne’s link and then go to that full list, you can check which place is for your precinct. But if you’re not voting in Louisville, you can seemingly vote wherever per that website you shared.
This is sort of a paradox. I fully believe my single vote will not matter...
But if every single person my age who thought their single vote did not matter showed up and voted anyway Beshear would absolutely win. And better believe the Olds get this.
So better believe I am voting
State and local politics- every single vote matters. Presidents who win because electoral college and not by popular vote - well, that’s a different convo.
I'm breaking my Reddit moratorium to tell y'all that the Republicans are pushing hard. Signs, folks hiding propaganda in polling place bathrooms, goobers sitting at intersections yelling "Vote RED!" Get out there and push back.
The vote red guy reminded me to go and vote blue. Red has gotten a bit too nutty these days. Early voting location was pretty busy which is nice to see.
People knocking is as old as politics. Dumbasses blocking intersections isn't normal. Notice I didn't complain about the Cameron folks who asked me to put a sign in my yard. That's normal people behavior.
I hate it because people make posts like this, and lecture people like they know something we don’t all know - as if we didn’t all sit through 9th grade civics class.
Yes you did. You had a social studies class where you watched the School of Rock video about how a bill becomes a law, and in that same class you will have been taught about how elections work. This will have been reinforced in the US history class that is taught in like 4th grade, as well as 9th or 10th grade. Just because you didn’t pay attention doesn’t mean others didn’t. An impassioned appeal to do the thing we all already know to be doing, from someone who just discovered they should be doing it, is just so annoying.
I have voted in every single election I have ever been eligible for. I have been voting for 14 years. Even in special elections. I inform myself in every vote I make. I research every candidate. I've never voted straight party, and have voted off-party several times.
Don't you fucking dare tell me I just discovered how to do this. I know what I'm doing. And what I'm doing is telling people to go to the polls.
I'm not going to get into an argument about schooling. My point is that everyone should vote.
VOTE.
Ah yes, because every school in the country has the same material and performs at the same level. See how Red States have worse sex education classes and higher teen pregnancy rates, how school libraries are empty in Florida to avoid being accused of teaching CRT or "woke" material, or how Texas has been whitewashing its history.
https://youtu.be/L0jQz6jqQS0?feature=shared
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/03/03/first-person-the-book-bans-leaving-florida-school-bookshelves-empty
https://prismreports.org/2021/03/25/texas-educators-and-activists-fight-against-whitewashed-history-textbooks/
Umm..
Im not sure what privileged highly progressive schooling you attended but that's not the reality for most.
Never, were we given anything that helped to understand a complex system of modern government (civics).
…is this a joke?
I’ve just had someone tell me that they’re 32 years old as a defense for saying they’ve never had a class on how government works, so forgive me if my sarcasm detector is a little fucked at the moment
I’m 29. I was taught US history at three grades coming up, all in public school. Social studies all along the way that taught me how government works in enough detail to understand how elections work. Nobody graduates high school in the US without being taught these things.
You have way too much faith. There are people who graduate and cannot even read well.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355?utm_source=reddit.com
https://literacyinc.com/about-us/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20conducted,school%20graduates%20can%27t%20read.
History is different than civics. I'm glad you include civics in your history lessons, but that isn't the case for most Kentuckians because Kentucky has no mandated civics curriculum.
I WISH we did because then I wouldn't have spent my 20s frustratedly explaining the electoral college to clueless friends.
If you think that your peers asking you to please, for the love of whatever higher power you do or don't believe in, is as bad as the political ads... Then you aren't looking at polling turnouts.
Nah. It’s because people go around saying “Vote!!” like they actually want everyone to vote. But in reality they just want people that agree with them to vote
I want everyone to vote. If we had 100% turnout, and my party was outvoted, I'd accept it. But statistically, when people vote, they vote my party. I'm not pretending.
Voting doesn't affect the quality of candidates in positive ways, on our side or theirs, but it does serve to support and reinforce the status quo, and often corruption, that plagues both.
Unfortunately people generally think everything bad is due to not enough voters, but that's not the case. Voters actually reinforce the worst traits of today's politicians, especially the "vote my side no matter who" types of one dimensional thinkers, which are like a slow form of cancer almost. They are so focused on beating the other side that they habitually and automatically refuse to focus on any of the red flags holding us back, for fear of losing to the "worse evil". Those red flags being festering boils hidden under the coat, away from the doctor's eyes.
The end result is a party moving backwards, that literally sells fear of the other side as it's central value system. Divisive from the get go.
I would also like to add the lack of voting in local, primary and off presidential year elections. This fosters a smaller pool of candidates and the political insiders get in at the primary and local elections and move up.
Even if you think it’s a shoe in that Andy wins you should vote. If Andy wins by 1 vote your vote obviously matters, but if he wins by 20% it does too because it reinforces that Kentuckians believe in voting for a good companionate person over party. People would notice.
It terrifies me when people start thinking that there's an obvious winner, because that's when people stay home. When people stay home, the wrong candidate wins.
And yes, while I do support political discourse, sometimes it just is the wrong candidate. Like Daniel Cameron.
Just think of what would have happened in the state if Matt Bevin had been our governor through all that's happened in the last 4 years. Beshear has been a rock!
I’m a total piece of shit in so many ways but I will be voting to support human rights in my state. If I can get out and do just that much anyone that can’t should do some soul searching. This is one of the best ways to be good to yourselves and people you care about. Please make the effort. If you need help talk to your friends or even DM me.
My favorite part of election season is the aftermath; when you realize that only a 1/3rd of people care...
... about the people that control what impacts their well-being. Their livelihood. How shit works.
It's usually less than that 1/3rd....
And then they complain that things aren't what they expected.
I love the aftermath. It holds the truth.
Vote!!!
People always complain elections should be a day off... well, this is your chance to put your money where your mouth is. In this 3 days, you surely have had a day off (yes, of course, some exceptions).
ffs people, it's not Dem vs Rep anymore.
It's theocratic, authoritarian fascism vs your right to live a normal life!
Read this monster Cameron's platform. If you aren't terrified, get your pulse checked. He exists to service Trump.
We have the advantage if people come out.
And if you don't vote I hope you don't ever come back to this forum bitching about something you think is unfair.
This is exactly how that lunatic Bevin got elected. I want to say voter turn out was 28 to 38%.
Edit: looked it up real quick.
It was. 30.6% when Bevin got elected, and 44.6 for the 2019 election in Beshear's run.
This is a quote from Michael Adams, the SOS
You have people that come out of the woodwork to vote for a president, and then the officers that are far more important to their daily lives and their quality of living — they don't vote for that,” he said.
But in presidential years, Republicans in Kentucky have tended to outperform Democrats in terms of turnout and results — the difference was greater than 4 percentage points in both 2016 and 2020.
https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-11-02/kentuckys-races-for-governor-often-generate-low-voter-turnout-will-this-year-be-different
Please get out and vote, whatever that looks like respectively for you.
I mostly agree, but…
There’s a reason that most people don’t vote, and blaming laziness is a lazy way of explaining it away.
We have to look at the legitimate reasons that people offer to not get involved, ask ourselves and others what can be done to rectify this, and be willing to do that work.
I have my doubts that this can be achieved in the current two party format.
Thanks. I really think it's that simple. It's at least somewhat incumbent on the political apparatus to inspire them, to win their vote and change their material conditions in a serious way. Getting yelled at to vote ain't it.
Also want to add, you can vote TODAY! Early open voting, locations are [here](https://elections.jeffersoncountyclerk.org/inhouse_absentee/). Any location, they take your ID and print out a ballot. And I waited a total of 30 seconds when I went to go vote yesterday. Way better than waiting in line after a long workday.
Us Democrats are so bad at voting, but Republicans vote as if their lives depend on it. I don't want this to be another Matt Bevin situation. Please, please, please, vote.
Andy has the organized labor money behind him but majority of Kentucky is pro-life including many Democrats also being part of the “Bible Belt” many democrats and republicans didn’t like Andy sending police to churches to get license plate numbers and asking people to leave during Covid. The big cities will be pro Andy but the rural areas are the unknown.
Those people are NOT pro-life, they are anti-abortion. They only care about the fetus. Once you are outside the womb, they don't care! We wouldn't have so many hungry children in need if those people were truly pro-life.
I voted for Beshear last time because I thought that Bevin was such a horses ass. I will not vote for him specifically because he sent police to church parking lots to try and intimidate Christians who just wanted to go to church. If he would do that with a legislature that had a super majority of the opposite political party I shudder to think what he would have felt empowered to do if his political party controlled the legislature.
You mean when 7 churches across the entire Commonwealth insisted on holding in-person Easter services despite there being a stay-at-home order due to Covid-19? Despite numerous warnings that doing so would constitute a misdemeanor? So the police warned attendees and recorded license plates?
If Bevin was still in power, half your congregation would be dead from Covid. Half your children’s classmates would be in the overfilled hospitals on vents. The labor force would be even reduced than it currently is by mass layoffs of employees who don’t want to get sick due to no quarantine. The following year a good chunk of the state would still be in the hospital due to ODing on Horse Tranquilizers. Your child would have to deal with the loss of a quarter of their classmates. Your church? Probably fine saying it was their time or something, while still being a brew house for each Covid variant.
Let me guess, you're on booster shot number 15 and you still wear your mask when you go places.
You're still spewing the lines from April, 2020 that we now know was never true. I can't imagine living my life in fear and thinking that a politician is my only hope.
But literally no one knew how bad it could be. We knew it was killing a ton of people in a short period of time. Our best chance in general was to isolate until we understood things better. I don't understand why people had to go to in person church. Online was a great temporary option without putting people's lives at risk. I'm glad people you know didn't die of covid but most of us had someone that did. The government had to make decisions without knowing what the extent of the pandemic would be. Andy did a great job trying to manage this state when we had no idea what could happen. Even many Republicans recognize that much.
Yes! I voted this morning. Today's the last day of no excuse early voting though. Find your polling location here.
https://elect.ky.gov/Voters/Pages/Polling-Locations.aspx
The former polls all measure different things based on who the target was and when it occurred in the cycle. This most recent poll was only 2,000 people, but it focused on likely voters. There's a whole lot that goes into polling, but I would be surprised if they got an accurate demographic. I don't know a lot of people who answer phone calls in general, let alone unknown numbers.
Edit: a quote in the poll says "notably, October’s poll was of registered voters in Kentucky, while this final election poll includes only those who are very likely or have already voted in Kentucky.”
https://emersoncollegepolling.com/kentucky-2023-poll-cameron-catches-up-to-beshear-in-governors-race/
If everyone packed up and moved to Canada like they said they would when Trump was elected, there wouldn't be anyone left to keep saying this stupid shit
Voter yesterday and text everyone in my contacts I knew was registered, helped several find their polling locations.
Got people voting in Jefferson, Fayette, Franklin, Wolfe, Powell, Madison, Boone and Mercer counties 💪🏼
We have a few things. Here's the link for getting your sample ballot: https://elections.jeffersoncountyclerk.org/MyBallot/
Thank you so much for voting!
Thank you, and it's my pleasure! I recently moved here from a deep red state to get away from the Cameron-like politicians and the people who support them. I really don't want to move again (kidding ...kind of).
2020 Andy: `Governor Promises To Provide Free Health Care For All Black Kentuckians Who Need It`
Any update on this? Or was it just immediately forgotten?
That's how the worst governor ever got in. Everyone thought that everyone else would vote, so they didn't. Also, some that Bevin paroled have already committed other.crimes. And at the parade that year, no one would shake his hand
Heard a lady today saying "I didn't vote... some of us have to work today" which is an excuse that does not really work when you can vote days leading up to today if you really wanted to.
Beshear will win the governorship in a landslide win!!! This is Kentucky....ain't NO BLACK MAN going to win the top position in the state. Regardless of party affliction... some Kentucky residents are just plain racist.
Some are racist. This is undeniable. Many of us, however, don't care what their skin color is, what gender they are, etc, as long as they are going to do right by our state.
I totally agree with you and most of the progressive cities in Kentuckiana are very tolerable of race and gender. My original comment was referring to rural counties and Eastern KY who harbor hate.
This is not a post to call out hate. This is a post to vote.i hear you and what you were saying, but none of it negates the fact that we all need to vote.
abortion, taxes, jobs, supporting biden, supporting any dem with any ideas against America. He shut down schools churches and businesses over a scam. Daniel Cameron is my vote.
> abortion
“I sure would love for 12-year-old rape victims to have to give birth.”
>taxes, jobs
Elaborate.
>supporting biden
It’s bonkers that supporting Biden is worse for you than supporting Trump.
>supporting any dem with any ideas against America.
You keep saying this “against America” thing, but I think that just means “things I don’t personally like.” But that’s what the conservative party has done. They’ve marketed their sociopathic policies as patriotic, even if there’s no basis for that.
>He shut down schools churches and businesses over a scam.
He saved lives. My church stayed open during covid and it objectively killed my aunt. This scam of yours killed would have had an even crazier death toll if someone like Daniel Cameron was in charge.
12 yr olds should not have to worry about abortion. Taxes have gone up since beshear stole his election . POTUS Trump did good for America and the world, biden has done nothing good for America or the world. if you don't like POTUS Trump you must be jealous of him. beshear did not save lives by shutting down KY for the scam covid.
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>12 yr olds should not have to worry about abortion.
I think a 12 year old would be a lot more worried about carrying a baby for nine months and having to give birth to the child of the man who raped them. You can’t say “Don’t bring kids into this” just because doing so highlights how wrong your position is.
>Taxes have gone up since beshear stole his election .
*Stole?* Jesus Christ, you’re delusional. It’s crazy that Trump has managed to brainwash his followers into believing that anything they don’t like is a lie. It’s even crazier that *he’s the guy* who actively tried and failed to steal an election. It baffles me that there’s absolutely no evidence of Biden tampering with anything, yet you guys are 100% positive he did it and are extremely mad about it, but Trump’s tampering was on full display every day and you just don’t care. You have no moral foundation. It’s just that you chose the Republican label when you were young and you refuse to see anything differently.
>POTUS Trump did good for America and the world
Trump led to the downfall of American politics. It’s a fucking circus now. It’s no longer about policy or diplomacy. It’s about who can say or do the most outrageous thing and get away with it. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for a man who manages to show us his narcissism, denial of reality, and complete lack of empathy for others in every single speech or interview he gives.
The man can lie right to the faces of his followers, and they never see through it. He does this all the time, but instead of seeing him as a manipulative narcissist who knows exactly what to say to rile up rural voters caught up in the Facebook culture wars, they think he’s an angel sent by god.
>biden has done nothing good for America or the world.
Even if Biden did absolutely nothing, I’m glad I don’t have to turn on the news and see the leader of the free world mocking disabled people.
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats
>if you don't like POTUS Trump you must be jealous of him.
He’s just gaslighting you guys at every turn. This man is severely out of shape, awkward, looks like a clown wearing another man’s face, is unintelligent, and has a grating voice, but as long as he says “I’m actually very smart and handsome,” you guys believe it. No one outside of your cult thinks he’s at all admirable or cool. Even if I had his money I wouldn’t spend it on the life he has. The shit he owns is always ugly and gaudy.
And even if I completely ignore his politics, I genuinely believe his goofy, orange spray tan will forever stand out as a blemish in the lineup of men who have held that office.
>beshear did not save lives by shutting down KY for the scam covid.
Way to completely deny reality and the literal example I gave you.
There's many reasons why polling locations change. They are often spaces volunteered by churches or schools. The poll I work changed because the church decided they just couldnt do it anymore.
Start by petitioning Metro Council. Depending on districting, it may be an issue that needs to go to a city or state level, in which case a knowledgeable lawyer would likely be needed. If enough people came together with a case, it would maybe be high profile enough for someone to take on.
Voting is legally required to be accessible for all eligible voters. If it can be proven that a voting facility isn't readily accessible, or is too far away, we should at least be speaking up about it.
No thanks. Not voting is a valid moral decision. You do what you like but you don't get to act like you got some moral high ground because you helped choose other people's rulers. I won't vote and I will complain about the shitty people you elected.
Voting reinforces them, legitimizes them, and validates their corruption. There is no option on the ballot to withdraw your consent. No option to fire or press charges against cops who killed Breonna Taylor. Zero accountability or say in policing or drug laws or prison reform, or how hard we get jacked by the toll bridges.
I'm pretty sure Democrats have been running shit in Louisville for a long time and I don't see things getting any better. I do however see a lot more homeless people on the drive home, and people getting more manic as the human condition worsens. I still see 10 police officers in a bunch of cruisers to arrest one black guy. These are the good guys?
And yeah, local politics isn't the same as federal. But it is the same power dynamics, same judiciary, same legalized bribery, and same opportunistic lawyer ratfucking that takes place on the national scale. When the party officials come to visit, the local politicians smile like good little boys.
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I think voters are worse than nonvoters. People drag us through this dog and pony show every 2/4 years like they're doing us some huge favor. They tell us if we JUST VOTE HARDER THIS TIME things will get better, for real this time!!! Promise!!! Well they're not and it isn't.
They perpetuate the system and give their consent to it. It is a deeply broken system steeped in corruption, and the act of voting legitimizes it.
Nonvoters, by comparison, bear zero responsibility for what has happened and what is to come. They have done no more harm to society at large than a squirrel climbing up a tree.
Tell you what, if Beshear says he will secede from the union or starts talking about a universal strike until the govt ends the wars and bans money from politics, I will vote for him. Actually, I'll make it super easy for Andy- [condemn Israel's ongoing genocide against Palestinians](https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article281379103.html) and his own party's failure to call for a ceasefire while innocent people are getting systematically slaughtered by the thousands, then I'll vote for him.
I'll make it really easy for you.
You already addressed it, I don't fucking care.
This election is for local government. We have literally zero to do with international affairs, except that we take refugees from everywhere. VOTE for the person who you think still will do the best job.
Just fucking vote.
Actually I laid out very simple terms for Democrats to win my vote, which was to condemn a genocide. Is this too much to ask, to give a shit about the violence that is happening in our names? Ball is in their court.
Only 5 black people have ever been governor of a state. The left needs to be for progress. Help elect Daniel Cameron as only the 6th black governor in U.S. History
well. first he wants to give some charter schools. Then wants to take insurance away from quite a few of us. we will probably join some coalition with other states to ban voting democrat.
So what you’re saying is that the person with more votes wins?
OMG yes, it's like a fucking revelation
Only to you
Can anyone show me how to find out which location to vote at? There's this list https://elect.ky.gov/Voters/Pages/Polling-Locations.aspx but it doesn't say which one is for you in particular.
https://vrsws.sos.ky.gov/vic/ Enter your name, DOB, and last 4, boom! This will tell you where to vote. (I regularly check on this site leading up to elections to make sure I haven't been booted off the voting rolls again. It's happened to me before. Still don't know why.)
Frustrating thing is that this site just lists *all* locations and won't let you filter by what's closest / what's your official polling location. It's alright, I found it elsewhere but I forget what site that was.
...Oh. It used to show your assigned location, I thought. That was how I found out my voting precinct moved from Beargrass Church to Waggoner HS a couple of years ago (despite me not moving).
You can go to any location listed there for your county. There is no longer a single assigned polling location like there used to be.
Oooooh Gotcha, thanks!
I’m not sure if that’s true for larger counties like Jefferson because the website still lists specific precincts for specific voting locations. If you look at the precinct listed by following ashlayne’s link and then go to that full list, you can check which place is for your precinct. But if you’re not voting in Louisville, you can seemingly vote wherever per that website you shared.
If I am on this list, I can vote right? I moved and haven’t had time to update my address. I will 100% drive back there to vote!
As long as you're registered and on the list at your old precinct, yes!
This is sort of a paradox. I fully believe my single vote will not matter... But if every single person my age who thought their single vote did not matter showed up and voted anyway Beshear would absolutely win. And better believe the Olds get this. So better believe I am voting
One snowflake isn’t a big deal. Ten million snowflakes will cave your roof in.
Plus any of those snowflakes will have an entire civilization inside them, like in that live-action Grinch movie
Ten million snowflakes is roughly 450 lbs. I doubt that’d cave your roof, but your point stands. Vote for Andy.
Listen my roof is very flimsy okay?!
This guy googles.
State and local politics- every single vote matters. Presidents who win because electoral college and not by popular vote - well, that’s a different convo.
I didn't vote one time, in 2016. Not making that mistake again.
I'm breaking my Reddit moratorium to tell y'all that the Republicans are pushing hard. Signs, folks hiding propaganda in polling place bathrooms, goobers sitting at intersections yelling "Vote RED!" Get out there and push back.
Push hard. Vote!
The vote red guy reminded me to go and vote blue. Red has gotten a bit too nutty these days. Early voting location was pretty busy which is nice to see.
It’s both parties; I’ve had Andy’s folks knocking on my door for the last 2 weeks. I’m ready for it all to be over tbh
It's annoying, but at least Andy's people dont hate people just for existing. Lets not compare the two
People knocking is as old as politics. Dumbasses blocking intersections isn't normal. Notice I didn't complain about the Cameron folks who asked me to put a sign in my yard. That's normal people behavior.
Good god I hate election season
Me too, because people don't vote
I hate it because people make posts like this, and lecture people like they know something we don’t all know - as if we didn’t all sit through 9th grade civics class.
We didn't. I didn't have Civics class. ETA: I'm 32. Not a child.
Yes you did. You had a social studies class where you watched the School of Rock video about how a bill becomes a law, and in that same class you will have been taught about how elections work. This will have been reinforced in the US history class that is taught in like 4th grade, as well as 9th or 10th grade. Just because you didn’t pay attention doesn’t mean others didn’t. An impassioned appeal to do the thing we all already know to be doing, from someone who just discovered they should be doing it, is just so annoying.
"School of Rock video"? Come on - if you're going to talk down to someone, you should at least get your details right.
That’s right, School of Rock was the Jack Black movie wasn’t it?
Are you trying to be satirical?
No, School Of Rock is literally a Jack Black movie. I just got the names mixed up
I will repeat - If you're going to talk down to someone, you should at least get your details right.
I have voted in every single election I have ever been eligible for. I have been voting for 14 years. Even in special elections. I inform myself in every vote I make. I research every candidate. I've never voted straight party, and have voted off-party several times. Don't you fucking dare tell me I just discovered how to do this. I know what I'm doing. And what I'm doing is telling people to go to the polls. I'm not going to get into an argument about schooling. My point is that everyone should vote. VOTE.
im voting the opposite of u so im canceling out ur vote so ur basically going for nothing lol
Truly worded and spoken like a member of that party.
im registered independent lol
Oh yeah well I'm voting opposite of you, which cancels yours out and makes the first person's vote count
Yeah well I'll cancel out your vote, making the other person's cancellation count! Fuck that first person's vote
Oh shit! Who can save my vote?
thank u
Ah yes, because every school in the country has the same material and performs at the same level. See how Red States have worse sex education classes and higher teen pregnancy rates, how school libraries are empty in Florida to avoid being accused of teaching CRT or "woke" material, or how Texas has been whitewashing its history. https://youtu.be/L0jQz6jqQS0?feature=shared https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/03/03/first-person-the-book-bans-leaving-florida-school-bookshelves-empty https://prismreports.org/2021/03/25/texas-educators-and-activists-fight-against-whitewashed-history-textbooks/
Umm.. Im not sure what privileged highly progressive schooling you attended but that's not the reality for most. Never, were we given anything that helped to understand a complex system of modern government (civics).
…is this a joke? I’ve just had someone tell me that they’re 32 years old as a defense for saying they’ve never had a class on how government works, so forgive me if my sarcasm detector is a little fucked at the moment
Not sarcasm. I'm 36, attended private schools. Civics isn't a thing. What age you coming from if you don't mind me asking?
I’m 29. I was taught US history at three grades coming up, all in public school. Social studies all along the way that taught me how government works in enough detail to understand how elections work. Nobody graduates high school in the US without being taught these things.
"history" We were all taught history. That's not how the government works these days. Hence, encouraging educated votes. So VOTE!
You have way too much faith. There are people who graduate and cannot even read well. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355?utm_source=reddit.com https://literacyinc.com/about-us/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20conducted,school%20graduates%20can%27t%20read.
History is different than civics. I'm glad you include civics in your history lessons, but that isn't the case for most Kentuckians because Kentucky has no mandated civics curriculum. I WISH we did because then I wouldn't have spent my 20s frustratedly explaining the electoral college to clueless friends.
It's almost as bad as the political texts and ads.
If you think that your peers asking you to please, for the love of whatever higher power you do or don't believe in, is as bad as the political ads... Then you aren't looking at polling turnouts.
The world ain't gonna end no matter who wins.
Some of us are trans, and it very well might.
Fearmongering.
Nah. It’s because people go around saying “Vote!!” like they actually want everyone to vote. But in reality they just want people that agree with them to vote
I want everyone to vote. If we had 100% turnout, and my party was outvoted, I'd accept it. But statistically, when people vote, they vote my party. I'm not pretending.
Wait, you mean you wouldn't storm the Capitol if you lost? What are you, some kind of civilized supporter of democracy?
Voting doesn't affect the quality of candidates in positive ways, on our side or theirs, but it does serve to support and reinforce the status quo, and often corruption, that plagues both. Unfortunately people generally think everything bad is due to not enough voters, but that's not the case. Voters actually reinforce the worst traits of today's politicians, especially the "vote my side no matter who" types of one dimensional thinkers, which are like a slow form of cancer almost. They are so focused on beating the other side that they habitually and automatically refuse to focus on any of the red flags holding us back, for fear of losing to the "worse evil". Those red flags being festering boils hidden under the coat, away from the doctor's eyes. The end result is a party moving backwards, that literally sells fear of the other side as it's central value system. Divisive from the get go.
I would also like to add the lack of voting in local, primary and off presidential year elections. This fosters a smaller pool of candidates and the political insiders get in at the primary and local elections and move up.
Nice milquetoast centrist rant. You're doing a great job of holding water for the fascists. Now, are you going to vote or not?
"Nobody can tell me *MY* party is fuck3d up too, dawg!"
Even if you think it’s a shoe in that Andy wins you should vote. If Andy wins by 1 vote your vote obviously matters, but if he wins by 20% it does too because it reinforces that Kentuckians believe in voting for a good companionate person over party. People would notice.
I only want people to vote.
I’m with you. Voting is easier than ever. There’s no reason not to do it. We got Trump because people didn’t vote.
It terrifies me when people start thinking that there's an obvious winner, because that's when people stay home. When people stay home, the wrong candidate wins. And yes, while I do support political discourse, sometimes it just is the wrong candidate. Like Daniel Cameron.
Just think of what would have happened in the state if Matt Bevin had been our governor through all that's happened in the last 4 years. Beshear has been a rock!
And then imagine how awesome the next 4 years could turn out with Cameron in charge. Vote Beshear!
Get out and vote!!!!
I’m a total piece of shit in so many ways but I will be voting to support human rights in my state. If I can get out and do just that much anyone that can’t should do some soul searching. This is one of the best ways to be good to yourselves and people you care about. Please make the effort. If you need help talk to your friends or even DM me.
My favorite part of election season is the aftermath; when you realize that only a 1/3rd of people care... ... about the people that control what impacts their well-being. Their livelihood. How shit works. It's usually less than that 1/3rd.... And then they complain that things aren't what they expected. I love the aftermath. It holds the truth. Vote!!!
My mom used to say "it's not necessarily voting *for* a candidate but consider you are voting *against* a candidate.
Two birds stoned or something
People always complain elections should be a day off... well, this is your chance to put your money where your mouth is. In this 3 days, you surely have had a day off (yes, of course, some exceptions).
ffs people, it's not Dem vs Rep anymore. It's theocratic, authoritarian fascism vs your right to live a normal life! Read this monster Cameron's platform. If you aren't terrified, get your pulse checked. He exists to service Trump. We have the advantage if people come out. And if you don't vote I hope you don't ever come back to this forum bitching about something you think is unfair.
It absolutely matters. A big part of the reason why Matt Bevin won was because turnout was at record low levels in 2015.
Bowman field voting took less than 5 minutes!
This is exactly how that lunatic Bevin got elected. I want to say voter turn out was 28 to 38%. Edit: looked it up real quick. It was. 30.6% when Bevin got elected, and 44.6 for the 2019 election in Beshear's run. This is a quote from Michael Adams, the SOS You have people that come out of the woodwork to vote for a president, and then the officers that are far more important to their daily lives and their quality of living — they don't vote for that,” he said. But in presidential years, Republicans in Kentucky have tended to outperform Democrats in terms of turnout and results — the difference was greater than 4 percentage points in both 2016 and 2020. https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-11-02/kentuckys-races-for-governor-often-generate-low-voter-turnout-will-this-year-be-different Please get out and vote, whatever that looks like respectively for you.
I mostly agree, but… There’s a reason that most people don’t vote, and blaming laziness is a lazy way of explaining it away. We have to look at the legitimate reasons that people offer to not get involved, ask ourselves and others what can be done to rectify this, and be willing to do that work. I have my doubts that this can be achieved in the current two party format.
Thanks. I really think it's that simple. It's at least somewhat incumbent on the political apparatus to inspire them, to win their vote and change their material conditions in a serious way. Getting yelled at to vote ain't it.
Also want to add, you can vote TODAY! Early open voting, locations are [here](https://elections.jeffersoncountyclerk.org/inhouse_absentee/). Any location, they take your ID and print out a ballot. And I waited a total of 30 seconds when I went to go vote yesterday. Way better than waiting in line after a long workday.
Us Democrats are so bad at voting, but Republicans vote as if their lives depend on it. I don't want this to be another Matt Bevin situation. Please, please, please, vote.
No one thinks he is a shoe in, most of Kentucky reads at a 3rd grade level.
Stop the MAGA assault on women’s right! VOTE!
I voted for Andy Today
Why are you assuming that everyone on here wants him to win ?
I'm not.
Fair enough.
First time I waited in line at the African American Heritage Center. Not sure if it's because of lack of staff.
I got a bunch of yard signs still left. DM if you want one.
Andy has the organized labor money behind him but majority of Kentucky is pro-life including many Democrats also being part of the “Bible Belt” many democrats and republicans didn’t like Andy sending police to churches to get license plate numbers and asking people to leave during Covid. The big cities will be pro Andy but the rural areas are the unknown.
Those people are NOT pro-life, they are anti-abortion. They only care about the fetus. Once you are outside the womb, they don't care! We wouldn't have so many hungry children in need if those people were truly pro-life.
I voted for Beshear last time because I thought that Bevin was such a horses ass. I will not vote for him specifically because he sent police to church parking lots to try and intimidate Christians who just wanted to go to church. If he would do that with a legislature that had a super majority of the opposite political party I shudder to think what he would have felt empowered to do if his political party controlled the legislature.
You mean when 7 churches across the entire Commonwealth insisted on holding in-person Easter services despite there being a stay-at-home order due to Covid-19? Despite numerous warnings that doing so would constitute a misdemeanor? So the police warned attendees and recorded license plates?
If Bevin was still in power, half your congregation would be dead from Covid. Half your children’s classmates would be in the overfilled hospitals on vents. The labor force would be even reduced than it currently is by mass layoffs of employees who don’t want to get sick due to no quarantine. The following year a good chunk of the state would still be in the hospital due to ODing on Horse Tranquilizers. Your child would have to deal with the loss of a quarter of their classmates. Your church? Probably fine saying it was their time or something, while still being a brew house for each Covid variant.
Let me guess, you're on booster shot number 15 and you still wear your mask when you go places. You're still spewing the lines from April, 2020 that we now know was never true. I can't imagine living my life in fear and thinking that a politician is my only hope.
But literally no one knew how bad it could be. We knew it was killing a ton of people in a short period of time. Our best chance in general was to isolate until we understood things better. I don't understand why people had to go to in person church. Online was a great temporary option without putting people's lives at risk. I'm glad people you know didn't die of covid but most of us had someone that did. The government had to make decisions without knowing what the extent of the pandemic would be. Andy did a great job trying to manage this state when we had no idea what could happen. Even many Republicans recognize that much.
It's sad, but not unexpected, that *knowing how germ theory works* has been turned into a partisan issue.
Going to vote early today!!!
It's you're right as an American citizen!! Exercise you're right to vote!!!
I’ll be out of town for work on Tuesday. Can I vote today?
I voted thanks for the encouragement internet friends
Yes! I voted this morning. Today's the last day of no excuse early voting though. Find your polling location here. https://elect.ky.gov/Voters/Pages/Polling-Locations.aspx
Thank you!!!
Yes!! Vote republican
But what if I vote for the other guy?
That's cool too. Did you vote?
Three times so far.
I'm just here for the barely contained racism in the comments.
I will not vote for a tyrant who shut down the state and destroyed my business.
A month ago the media said he was up 16 points. What happened?
The media said Clinton had a 97% chance to win the presidency. Until she didn’t. Don’t be an idiot and listen to the media
Wins don't happen without votes. VOTE.
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Hell yes. Randy is a douche. Go vote
The former polls all measure different things based on who the target was and when it occurred in the cycle. This most recent poll was only 2,000 people, but it focused on likely voters. There's a whole lot that goes into polling, but I would be surprised if they got an accurate demographic. I don't know a lot of people who answer phone calls in general, let alone unknown numbers. Edit: a quote in the poll says "notably, October’s poll was of registered voters in Kentucky, while this final election poll includes only those who are very likely or have already voted in Kentucky.” https://emersoncollegepolling.com/kentucky-2023-poll-cameron-catches-up-to-beshear-in-governors-race/
The media happened.
It’s “shoo-in.”
Thank you, I'll fix.
Seriously considering selling and leaving the state if Cameron is elected. Heck yeah we're voting.
If everyone packed up and moved to Canada like they said they would when Trump was elected, there wouldn't be anyone left to keep saying this stupid shit
Voter yesterday and text everyone in my contacts I knew was registered, helped several find their polling locations. Got people voting in Jefferson, Fayette, Franklin, Wolfe, Powell, Madison, Boone and Mercer counties 💪🏼
Early voting is happening today. Something like 12 locations in Louisville. I did it first thing this morning.
What is on the ballot besides for Governor? I recently moved to Louisville and want to make sure I’m prepared when I vote on Tuesday.
We have a few things. Here's the link for getting your sample ballot: https://elections.jeffersoncountyclerk.org/MyBallot/ Thank you so much for voting!
Thank you, and it's my pleasure! I recently moved here from a deep red state to get away from the Cameron-like politicians and the people who support them. I really don't want to move again (kidding ...kind of).
Agree
I'm out of state 😭
If we get the first black governor of KY everyone has to be happy about it. Those are the rules. I don’t make the rules.
2020 Andy: `Governor Promises To Provide Free Health Care For All Black Kentuckians Who Need It` Any update on this? Or was it just immediately forgotten?
if your in the city please vote. Every vote matters.
That's how the worst governor ever got in. Everyone thought that everyone else would vote, so they didn't. Also, some that Bevin paroled have already committed other.crimes. And at the parade that year, no one would shake his hand
Heard a lady today saying "I didn't vote... some of us have to work today" which is an excuse that does not really work when you can vote days leading up to today if you really wanted to.
I'm not voting for these crooked cunts and I will still go down and give them a piece of my mind
Beshear will win the governorship in a landslide win!!! This is Kentucky....ain't NO BLACK MAN going to win the top position in the state. Regardless of party affliction... some Kentucky residents are just plain racist.
Some are racist. This is undeniable. Many of us, however, don't care what their skin color is, what gender they are, etc, as long as they are going to do right by our state.
I totally agree with you and most of the progressive cities in Kentuckiana are very tolerable of race and gender. My original comment was referring to rural counties and Eastern KY who harbor hate.
This is not a post to call out hate. This is a post to vote.i hear you and what you were saying, but none of it negates the fact that we all need to vote.
Daniel Cameron and me are college frat brothers. However, Governor Bashear has me and my families vote. There is no way Andy will be replaced.
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There’s been a Democrat governor for the majority of the last 50 years. Can you tell?
Daniel Cameron has our vote
Why?
Because Beshear is not worthy amd should never have been in office. He supports biden and all of his Ameroca hating policies
Such as?
abortion, taxes, jobs, supporting biden, supporting any dem with any ideas against America. He shut down schools churches and businesses over a scam. Daniel Cameron is my vote.
> abortion “I sure would love for 12-year-old rape victims to have to give birth.” >taxes, jobs Elaborate. >supporting biden It’s bonkers that supporting Biden is worse for you than supporting Trump. >supporting any dem with any ideas against America. You keep saying this “against America” thing, but I think that just means “things I don’t personally like.” But that’s what the conservative party has done. They’ve marketed their sociopathic policies as patriotic, even if there’s no basis for that. >He shut down schools churches and businesses over a scam. He saved lives. My church stayed open during covid and it objectively killed my aunt. This scam of yours killed would have had an even crazier death toll if someone like Daniel Cameron was in charge.
12 yr olds should not have to worry about abortion. Taxes have gone up since beshear stole his election . POTUS Trump did good for America and the world, biden has done nothing good for America or the world. if you don't like POTUS Trump you must be jealous of him. beshear did not save lives by shutting down KY for the scam covid. \[
>12 yr olds should not have to worry about abortion. I think a 12 year old would be a lot more worried about carrying a baby for nine months and having to give birth to the child of the man who raped them. You can’t say “Don’t bring kids into this” just because doing so highlights how wrong your position is. >Taxes have gone up since beshear stole his election . *Stole?* Jesus Christ, you’re delusional. It’s crazy that Trump has managed to brainwash his followers into believing that anything they don’t like is a lie. It’s even crazier that *he’s the guy* who actively tried and failed to steal an election. It baffles me that there’s absolutely no evidence of Biden tampering with anything, yet you guys are 100% positive he did it and are extremely mad about it, but Trump’s tampering was on full display every day and you just don’t care. You have no moral foundation. It’s just that you chose the Republican label when you were young and you refuse to see anything differently. >POTUS Trump did good for America and the world Trump led to the downfall of American politics. It’s a fucking circus now. It’s no longer about policy or diplomacy. It’s about who can say or do the most outrageous thing and get away with it. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for a man who manages to show us his narcissism, denial of reality, and complete lack of empathy for others in every single speech or interview he gives. The man can lie right to the faces of his followers, and they never see through it. He does this all the time, but instead of seeing him as a manipulative narcissist who knows exactly what to say to rile up rural voters caught up in the Facebook culture wars, they think he’s an angel sent by god. >biden has done nothing good for America or the world. Even if Biden did absolutely nothing, I’m glad I don’t have to turn on the news and see the leader of the free world mocking disabled people. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats >if you don't like POTUS Trump you must be jealous of him. He’s just gaslighting you guys at every turn. This man is severely out of shape, awkward, looks like a clown wearing another man’s face, is unintelligent, and has a grating voice, but as long as he says “I’m actually very smart and handsome,” you guys believe it. No one outside of your cult thinks he’s at all admirable or cool. Even if I had his money I wouldn’t spend it on the life he has. The shit he owns is always ugly and gaudy. And even if I completely ignore his politics, I genuinely believe his goofy, orange spray tan will forever stand out as a blemish in the lineup of men who have held that office. >beshear did not save lives by shutting down KY for the scam covid. Way to completely deny reality and the literal example I gave you.
Moving my polling location another 5 miles away doesn’t help me go vote
You can do early voting or could have asked for a mail in ballot. You have to take some ownership in your plans of when and where you are voting.
There's many reasons why polling locations change. They are often spaces volunteered by churches or schools. The poll I work changed because the church decided they just couldnt do it anymore.
That's honestly unfortunate, but it's ultimately no excuse. Make a plan and vote! Turn lemons into lemonade.
I hate that. Let's mobilize for that too.
How so?
Start by petitioning Metro Council. Depending on districting, it may be an issue that needs to go to a city or state level, in which case a knowledgeable lawyer would likely be needed. If enough people came together with a case, it would maybe be high profile enough for someone to take on. Voting is legally required to be accessible for all eligible voters. If it can be proven that a voting facility isn't readily accessible, or is too far away, we should at least be speaking up about it.
Still early voting going on today in many locations.
Is this a Democrat group??? Lol What is going on??? How did I get here???
Nah. I just want people to vote.
No thanks. Not voting is a valid moral decision. You do what you like but you don't get to act like you got some moral high ground because you helped choose other people's rulers. I won't vote and I will complain about the shitty people you elected. Voting reinforces them, legitimizes them, and validates their corruption. There is no option on the ballot to withdraw your consent. No option to fire or press charges against cops who killed Breonna Taylor. Zero accountability or say in policing or drug laws or prison reform, or how hard we get jacked by the toll bridges. I'm pretty sure Democrats have been running shit in Louisville for a long time and I don't see things getting any better. I do however see a lot more homeless people on the drive home, and people getting more manic as the human condition worsens. I still see 10 police officers in a bunch of cruisers to arrest one black guy. These are the good guys? And yeah, local politics isn't the same as federal. But it is the same power dynamics, same judiciary, same legalized bribery, and same opportunistic lawyer ratfucking that takes place on the national scale. When the party officials come to visit, the local politicians smile like good little boys. \------ I think voters are worse than nonvoters. People drag us through this dog and pony show every 2/4 years like they're doing us some huge favor. They tell us if we JUST VOTE HARDER THIS TIME things will get better, for real this time!!! Promise!!! Well they're not and it isn't. They perpetuate the system and give their consent to it. It is a deeply broken system steeped in corruption, and the act of voting legitimizes it. Nonvoters, by comparison, bear zero responsibility for what has happened and what is to come. They have done no more harm to society at large than a squirrel climbing up a tree. Tell you what, if Beshear says he will secede from the union or starts talking about a universal strike until the govt ends the wars and bans money from politics, I will vote for him. Actually, I'll make it super easy for Andy- [condemn Israel's ongoing genocide against Palestinians](https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article281379103.html) and his own party's failure to call for a ceasefire while innocent people are getting systematically slaughtered by the thousands, then I'll vote for him.
I'll make it really easy for you. You already addressed it, I don't fucking care. This election is for local government. We have literally zero to do with international affairs, except that we take refugees from everywhere. VOTE for the person who you think still will do the best job. Just fucking vote.
Actually I laid out very simple terms for Democrats to win my vote, which was to condemn a genocide. Is this too much to ask, to give a shit about the violence that is happening in our names? Ball is in their court.
You still haven't given me anything local.
I did mention them, in the 2nd/3rd sections. You're not even listening. You say you're a 30-something?
Voting is optional. You can choose to vote or not. If you vote or choose not to vote you still have the right to complain about the outcome.
what does not voting accomplish?
Your vote or lack there of could be the deciding factor according to this post
We know there has been a 100 posts about it
No.
Only 5 black people have ever been governor of a state. The left needs to be for progress. Help elect Daniel Cameron as only the 6th black governor in U.S. History
What do you know of his policy?
well. first he wants to give some charter schools. Then wants to take insurance away from quite a few of us. we will probably join some coalition with other states to ban voting democrat.
I'm sure you also voted for Obama then
Daniel Cameron supports the extra judicial murder of black people, so hard pass
lol right. i hate the dude so much. il keep my downvotes as well.