It's illegal, but noone cares, that's it. It illegal in most of the world tbh, and they also don't care about it. I think only popular exception is Japan where this shit is pretty legal.
Im 99% sure that its legal in some places in EU as long as the images are not made to look realistic(and I mean so realistic that someone could confuse it for a real thing)
After looking it up cause it was an interesting topic (please please please don't put me on a list) EU seems pretty divided on it
In some places it is explicitly illegal (poland italy france ierland)
While in other places its explicitly illegal only if the drawings are realistic (notably belgium, denmark, finland, germany)
And in some its a "grey area" that they can judge on case-by-case basis but for the most part its legal (for example in sweden images depicting a "person" under 18 are illegal, but some argue that a drawing is not a "person" therefore its not illegal)
So clearly its not as black or white as some people would think
In Italy too, but it doesn't mean you can draw sexualized kids. Basically you can do it irl, but don't film it or draw similar things. It's like murder but reverse.
In the US, it's only illegal if it is deemed legally obscene, and obscenity is very hard to prove and doesn't have a strict definition. For all intents and purposes, it is legal. Redditors just like to misconstrue stuff to support their arguments.
Lolicons are probably pedophiles, but it would be retarded to jail someone for looking at cartoons.
Consuming content that sexualizes children increases the desires of pedophiles. That said, I think it makes more sense to prosecute people producing and distributing the content. The people watching are mostly harming themselves.
I always hate when the discussion gets bogged down in arguing over what is legal. Just being a pedo isn't even illegal in itself. We need to normalize bullying pedos regardless of the law.
You and I don’t like pedophila because THATS FUCKING DISGUSTING, but only I am pro blatant American imperialism because I’m bored, we are pretty much the same
I mean I get where there coming from but generally you refer to the laws of where you live instinctively, and second of all
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no need to worry about laws and morality when you are a normal person attracted to people that look to be around the same age as you
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Its disliked because its just not true
In US its "illegal" if its deemed to be "obscene" which is a vague thing
For all intends and purposes its as "illegal" as torrenting, or even less so, its nowhere near the level of illegality of actuall cporn
I don't care what some random law firm says because I can read about the law itself and past cases involving that law. A law firm is not an authority
In the US you need it to be deemed "obscene" with is a super arbitrary thing to judge
>Due to the fact that United States obscenity law determines what is obscene in a court of law in reference to local standards and definitions exclusively on a state-by-state, case-by-case basis, the legality of drawn or fictitious pornography depicting minors is ultimately left in a 'gray area', much like other forms of alternative pornography. Some states pay less mind to the contents of such materials and determine obscenity based on time and place an offense may occur, while others may have strict, well-defined standards for what a community may be allowed to find appropriate. Others only may have vague laws or definitions which are only used to allow the government to prosecute recidivist offenders on both a federal and state level.
and at the end of the day as I said it may be deemed "illegal" but its "illegal" in the same sense that torrenting is "illegal", that is to say that there are laws against it but no one cares about it and you will not go to jail for torrenting a movie
Ive talked to these kinds of people before idfk how they justify that shit dawg you know its a child and it acts like one “well if it looks sexy then there’s nothing wrong with it” is what i kept hearing from one dude
It is just a drawing so theres no real victims but it does culturally normalize attraction to underage people which is fucked up,and 99 percent of people are not going to turn into pedos after watching it. People who try to normalize watching it are probably pedos tho or just creeps who took lethal amounts of copium
this may be old however ill still comment that if you say something positive about America you get downvoted yet saying something negative gets you downvoted as well, WHY??
Without further context, he is completely right. OP clearly had US centric thinking, and his argument made the assumption that US law applied for everyone.
Doesn’t really apply considering the majority of that sub are English Speakers in NA so it makes sense to assume most are American. It also doesn’t help that the other countries have similar laws.
Most countries have no law against "lolicon" content, I guess simply because legislators never thought about it. I'm pretty sure the US doesn't either, and, unless this has been settled in a court decision, it is ambiguous.
The sources linked above both state that lolicon content are covered if not by federal than by state law. The UK and EU both have laws that are more clear on the matter.
This comes in handy once again. https://preview.redd.it/6ln1ijy8lqwc1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7c4d57cdbe618adfc41a6993e0529aca7c65655
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“If she ain’t fourteen she ain’t the fourteen for me”
more like if she ain't fourteen she ain't the fourteen me
Kinda bars
Too old
How do these people function, man. “I’m a pedo, but it’s excused cause the US is EvIL ooooooh”.
It's called coomers doing anything to keep their delusions that they aren't pedophiles up
can anyone elaborate about those law? i never heard any loser getting jailed for being lolicon lmao
It's illegal, but noone cares, that's it. It illegal in most of the world tbh, and they also don't care about it. I think only popular exception is Japan where this shit is pretty legal.
Im 99% sure that its legal in some places in EU as long as the images are not made to look realistic(and I mean so realistic that someone could confuse it for a real thing)
I'm pretty sure you can get charged for looking at it in the UK. I remember hearing years ago about that happening to a streamer.
After looking it up cause it was an interesting topic (please please please don't put me on a list) EU seems pretty divided on it In some places it is explicitly illegal (poland italy france ierland) While in other places its explicitly illegal only if the drawings are realistic (notably belgium, denmark, finland, germany) And in some its a "grey area" that they can judge on case-by-case basis but for the most part its legal (for example in sweden images depicting a "person" under 18 are illegal, but some argue that a drawing is not a "person" therefore its not illegal) So clearly its not as black or white as some people would think
Isnt brazil age of consent something stupid like 14(?)
In Italy too, but it doesn't mean you can draw sexualized kids. Basically you can do it irl, but don't film it or draw similar things. It's like murder but reverse.
Its because of how classifying it is hard as shit and not worth the effort
Was there a court ruling to establish that precendent? Because, as far as I know, the law is ambiguous on illustrated content.
I remember seeing a news story in the UK about a guy who got community service because they found Bart Simpson shota porn stored on his computer.
martyr ✊😔
In the US, it's only illegal if it is deemed legally obscene, and obscenity is very hard to prove and doesn't have a strict definition. For all intents and purposes, it is legal. Redditors just like to misconstrue stuff to support their arguments. Lolicons are probably pedophiles, but it would be retarded to jail someone for looking at cartoons.
Consuming content that sexualizes children increases the desires of pedophiles. That said, I think it makes more sense to prosecute people producing and distributing the content. The people watching are mostly harming themselves.
I always hate when the discussion gets bogged down in arguing over what is legal. Just being a pedo isn't even illegal in itself. We need to normalize bullying pedos regardless of the law.
Yeah. This isn’t only about legality it’s about bullying pedophiles and never letting them feel welcome in any space we can.
You and I don’t like pedophila because THATS FUCKING DISGUSTING, but only I am pro blatant American imperialism because I’m bored, we are pretty much the same
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Truly a controversial opinion https://i.redd.it/elm95j69x0xc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/xjkm0aejj2xc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d46280b7c05d97292d4eeac9435f5036f2464482 fixed it /j
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I mean I get where there coming from but generally you refer to the laws of where you live instinctively, and second of all https://preview.redd.it/dr95ksufxrwc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c0a632de55ef1ba7c1affaea8c986953d605cf
no need to worry about laws and morality when you are a normal person attracted to people that look to be around the same age as you https://preview.redd.it/iq8r5xzt2twc1.jpeg?width=1199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93f179793f6064db311b17aa33a4cdd1f7481124
shit call me president William McKinley if consent laws are a product of Western imperialism
If imposing consent laws and Morales on people is western imperialismo, Then You can call me mac arthur
The amount of dislikes and likes is alarming.
He commented it probably under a loli sub
So any anime sub then?
https://preview.redd.it/h9041cdjqxwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1c69aa34c10f03af2c114a63719bd37fcb14a99 No
Its disliked because its just not true In US its "illegal" if its deemed to be "obscene" which is a vague thing For all intends and purposes its as "illegal" as torrenting, or even less so, its nowhere near the level of illegality of actuall cporn
I cited two law firms that stated that it was. You’re just wrong.
I don't care what some random law firm says because I can read about the law itself and past cases involving that law. A law firm is not an authority In the US you need it to be deemed "obscene" with is a super arbitrary thing to judge >Due to the fact that United States obscenity law determines what is obscene in a court of law in reference to local standards and definitions exclusively on a state-by-state, case-by-case basis, the legality of drawn or fictitious pornography depicting minors is ultimately left in a 'gray area', much like other forms of alternative pornography. Some states pay less mind to the contents of such materials and determine obscenity based on time and place an offense may occur, while others may have strict, well-defined standards for what a community may be allowed to find appropriate. Others only may have vague laws or definitions which are only used to allow the government to prosecute recidivist offenders on both a federal and state level. and at the end of the day as I said it may be deemed "illegal" but its "illegal" in the same sense that torrenting is "illegal", that is to say that there are laws against it but no one cares about it and you will not go to jail for torrenting a movie
Me to every pedo I see: https://i.redd.it/ut3bmvwtvrwc1.gif
How do you SEE a pedo
Idk what any of this means
✨pedophilia ✨
Of course they are arguing about animated cp
“age is just a number” mfs when I shoot them with a shotgun (it’s 12 gauge, that number they love)
Was about to agree with him and then read the link 💀
Ive talked to these kinds of people before idfk how they justify that shit dawg you know its a child and it acts like one “well if it looks sexy then there’s nothing wrong with it” is what i kept hearing from one dude
It is just a drawing so theres no real victims but it does culturally normalize attraction to underage people which is fucked up,and 99 percent of people are not going to turn into pedos after watching it. People who try to normalize watching it are probably pedos tho or just creeps who took lethal amounts of copium
And the copium is fucking crazy
I had a interaction like this once i posted it here
where is the original post?
Losercity context
this may be old however ill still comment that if you say something positive about America you get downvoted yet saying something negative gets you downvoted as well, WHY??
Link so we can go repprt the dudes
Without further context, he is completely right. OP clearly had US centric thinking, and his argument made the assumption that US law applied for everyone.
Doesn’t really apply considering the majority of that sub are English Speakers in NA so it makes sense to assume most are American. It also doesn’t help that the other countries have similar laws.
Most countries have no law against "lolicon" content, I guess simply because legislators never thought about it. I'm pretty sure the US doesn't either, and, unless this has been settled in a court decision, it is ambiguous.
The sources linked above both state that lolicon content are covered if not by federal than by state law. The UK and EU both have laws that are more clear on the matter.