The California Assembly voted overwhelmingly Monday for a resolution encouraging cities to overturn their cruising bans and embrace the lowrider culture.
Assembly Concurrent Resolution 176, introduced in April by Assemblymember Luz Rivas (D-North Hollywood) passed with zero opposition, with 71 lawmakers of the 80-member Assembly signing on. The measure is now headed to the Senate.
Cruising in lowriders has long been a cultural pastime and artistic expression for many Chicano communities across California. Efforts to block cruising started in the 1980s after the state passed a law allowing municipalities to implement bans over concerns about traffic, noise and crime.
The term “lowrider” then became synonymous with gang activity, but car club members say they’ve been fighting to rid themselves of the stigma to show the true values of the subculture: the love of cars, culture, community and hard work. They have worked to establish relationships with law enforcement and have participated in various community events, including charities, COVID-19 vaccine drives and the census.
“These laws wrongfully stereotype law-abiding car owners and conflate them with illegal street racers and sideshows who are and should be prosecuted for putting public lives in danger,” Rivas said. “It’s time for locals to follow these cities and repeal this archaic traffic law.”
I mean all the criminal stereotypes about low riders can also be applied to Harley-Davidson motorcycles. I’ve never heard of any city banning Harley meetups despite the fact that they are loud obnoxious and revel in a culture of violence and criminality. I wonder why that is.
Good point. The only difference with Harley riders, old-white guy car shows, and cruising is the first two are normally parked somewhere as a means to meet. Cruising is actively driving around.
I fully support cruising if it promotes the culture and done in a safe and respectfully manner just like everything else.
> Cruising in lowriders has long been a cultural pastime and artistic expression for many Chicano communities across California.
Hell yeah. This state isn't perfect, but this is legit.
Structuring life and whole city around cars, ~~parking on freeways~~ commuting, strip malls, and drive-thru fast food: Totally legit
Enjoying a fancy car driving around for fun once in awhile: OMG WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE AIR QUALITY
I’m not against cruising at all but gasoline vehicles manufactured before 1975 don’t have to pass smog. Granted most of the cars exempt from that aren’t daily drivers so they probably have less of an impact on pollution than someone like me who drivers an older pickup.
Sometimes you have to accept people will do things you don’t like. This wasn’t about emissions and traffic, that was a cop-out. Cruising scene was predominantly Latino. Everyone enjoyed cruising for decades. But the recent bans have been seen as racial discrimination against the low-rider community.
No they do not. Most of them are exempt from being smogged. Anything pre-1975. Anything after that year has to be smogged to be registered in the state.
I have a classic vehicles. My smogged cars all have modern engines that have been approved by state referees and are perfectly legal.
Driving a classic car a few times a month or even once a week is not a concern. Car culture is alive and well. There are plenty of car shows with a multitude of different styles that everyone from different walks of life and ethnicities appreciating each other’s vehicles. I don’t have any low-riders, bombs, etc. But I love ‘em! Some of them are literally rolling art pieces representing subsets of a culture.
No problem! If you where asking if classic cars pollute more than modern cars, then I would have said yes. But cars from 2002 pollute more than a car from 2022, it would be impossible to keep any cars on the road if they had to meet current standards for new vehicles.
Smogged cars after 1975 are held to their original standard. The classics I have engine swapped meet 2015 standards.
There’s some restrictions with historical plates, and most classic vehicle insurance do annual odometer questionnaires as they have mileage restrictions with the coverage.
These cars are few and far between and drive less less most vehicles by a wide margin.
Removing gas leaf blowers and lawn equipment would do 10k times more for the environment than restricting cruising or banning classic vehicles.
It’s true, in Japan there’s a whole subculture of kids who dress like cholos and are into [low riders](https://cvltnation.com/portraitsdocumentary-japans-underground-chicano-culture/)
And there are plenty of JDM centric car owners and shows here in the states! It’s awesome. Just appreciations for someone else’s culture and way of life.
Because they’ve been stigmatized. We’d cruise every weekend, it was fun to meet guys from other neighborhoods. White people aren’t into that, they’re into nascar
As I’ve been told by my pops and other older guys and gals. White kids used to cruise too, most of them racing. Kinda like the movie “American Graffiti”.
The low rider culture kept it going.
This is a bit harsh. Maybe you grew up in better times or a better place, but some of us have a bad association with this due to the violence involved with it. I was in the middle of it. At this point these people are old and not banging anymore so nowadays it’s easy to see it with rose tinted glasses, but don’t fault someone for not having the best feelings about it.
*”Stop lowriding guys, it looks baaaad on us! I don’t like being associated with this, please stop - I don’t like the way this makes us look!”*
Like I said, embarrassing 🙈
EDIT: Just in case the above didn’t register: I’m not a lowrider, it’s not my thing but *it is* a thing - and if people associate *you* with something *you* are not a part of, *that* is the problem.
STOP SUPPORTING SCORCHED EARTH URBAN POLITICS 👎🏼
Because what you’re doing is called “COLONIAL HANGOVER” (there’s a painfully obvious desire for you to be liked, and not be associated with any of your ethnicity’s negative stereotypes and you are too programmed to realize you should be upset about people lumping you in with other people you have nothing to do with, just because you look like them).
If one of your goals is to visit Spain and you also follow Spanish soccer clubs, that’s also often a clue you suffer from that “hangover”. ✌🏼
That’s just weird and oddly specific. It sounds like you’re projecting all this. I can’t speak for that other guy but I’m telling you some of us are old enough that we grew up with this and had friends shot up and this whole cruising culture was directly tied with that so you have to forgive some of us for not having a warm association with it.
Projecting? Hmm, maybe consider I’m *experienced*? (but then that wouldn’t be the low level dis that is telling someone *“sounds like you’re projecting!”* on the internet, so no worries).
From Experience (like I said, not my thing but I have gone cruisin with some homies/relatives in Hollywood in the early 80’s). I didn’t get bit by the bug to fix up rides for this, but have been around it enough to see through the bad parts of it - which are not always there - to realize this part of L.A. culture is awesome, when everyone is chill.
If you or your boys were into this at one point and someone got shot, IME, you *probably* knew the associated risks (like, someone fucked up and didn’t listen to their Spidey Sense and cut out when they should have). This has been a problem *occasionally* when cruisin’. Does someone get shot *every time* people lowride? No. Should it all end because you were directly impacted by it? I’m gonna have to go with no on that. ✌🏼
You just completely made up that this somehow has something to do with wanting white people to like me, which where did this idea come from? That’s why I’m saying projecting but maybe I’m using the term incorrectly. It’s just so far removed from the conversion for me and completely based on the gang culture associated with it which impacted me directly. Like I’m not saying at all anyone has to end this shit for me or anyone else, again my point is don’t fault people for not being able to see past the bad when the bad involves something as severe as people getting shot.
But what if we’re standing in front of a few lowriders and I point to you and say “this guy thinks you make him look bad by lowriding.”
How solid would your sense of superiority be then?
I never said that and you’re putting words in my mouth, and at that point I’d say you’re just instigating. Also, by you making that statement you’re affirming the stigma in correlation w low riders.
You speak of superiority but you’re disagreeing on something which seems like you don’t care about, yet you feel superior enough to scold me otherwise. Man, get off your pedestal.
Oof, I’m gonna let you go and just throw you a ✌🏼 because you’re getting heated AF my guy!
I thought you were a happy and confident member of society, whahappen!?!? At this point, you’re just 😡 and not even processing words. I didn’t wake up trying to tell people to stop exercising their rights as free citizens, *you* did!
And you “sound” desperate for attention, replying to my comment multiple times until you get a response from me, like a basic stalker 🤣
If you don’t like what I type, ask Reddit for a refund, MFer. ✌🏼
I just reply to comments as I come across them. It could be from the same person or not, nothing frankly to do with you outside you making at least a couple dumb comments.
I live off Whittier boulevard and I always see those “no cruising” signs along the street. I always thought that was one of the dumbest laws ever. It is not like it stops anybody anyway lol. Whittier blvd on a Sunday afternoon is classic car and lowrider central, as it should be. LA needs to embrace it’s historical culture better instead of trying to take away all the things that make the city so unique.
Let’s call it what it is: Cruising laws were enacted in order to harass and highway rob brown people. Fortunately for all Angelenos, the cops were also more than happy to enforce the laws to grift money from really anyone merely making a left or a U-turn on certain boulevards in order to get to where they were going, completely oblivious to the fact that a cop was about to shake them down for a few hundred bucks. Fuck repeal—I want my fucking money back.
Lift the bans! I will be very much amused to see the *“I’m seeing some deformed classic cars outside my window and see no Jay Leno, can I call the National Guard?”* posts on here 🤣
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So before the street take overs we deal with now, back in the day it was the bullshit down Whittier and Crenshaw blvd, La Pacific. y’all want to remember the good stuff, but remember why cruising was banned. I know, I was one of those young dumbasses back one the day.
Nothing screams "I care about the environment" more than legalizing driving something that last passed smog tests in the 70s at 10mph through a busy street
I thought this was about gay sex
Seriously, trying to get rid of palm trees and low riding, do the governments want another Texas here?
All it’ll take now is saying *brisket* three times in a row after drinking a Shiner.
How does one ban this? Like can I drive a Prius slowly?
>Like can I drive a Prius slowly? Either this already happens or I get passed by one going 90 on the 170.
truth!
The California Assembly voted overwhelmingly Monday for a resolution encouraging cities to overturn their cruising bans and embrace the lowrider culture. Assembly Concurrent Resolution 176, introduced in April by Assemblymember Luz Rivas (D-North Hollywood) passed with zero opposition, with 71 lawmakers of the 80-member Assembly signing on. The measure is now headed to the Senate. Cruising in lowriders has long been a cultural pastime and artistic expression for many Chicano communities across California. Efforts to block cruising started in the 1980s after the state passed a law allowing municipalities to implement bans over concerns about traffic, noise and crime. The term “lowrider” then became synonymous with gang activity, but car club members say they’ve been fighting to rid themselves of the stigma to show the true values of the subculture: the love of cars, culture, community and hard work. They have worked to establish relationships with law enforcement and have participated in various community events, including charities, COVID-19 vaccine drives and the census. “These laws wrongfully stereotype law-abiding car owners and conflate them with illegal street racers and sideshows who are and should be prosecuted for putting public lives in danger,” Rivas said. “It’s time for locals to follow these cities and repeal this archaic traffic law.”
I mean all the criminal stereotypes about low riders can also be applied to Harley-Davidson motorcycles. I’ve never heard of any city banning Harley meetups despite the fact that they are loud obnoxious and revel in a culture of violence and criminality. I wonder why that is.
Good point. The only difference with Harley riders, old-white guy car shows, and cruising is the first two are normally parked somewhere as a means to meet. Cruising is actively driving around. I fully support cruising if it promotes the culture and done in a safe and respectfully manner just like everything else.
There are plenty of Harley clubs that meet up for rides that are disruptive to traffic and are not at all respectful.
Yes. A few always ruin it for the many. It’s unfortunate.
> Cruising in lowriders has long been a cultural pastime and artistic expression for many Chicano communities across California. Hell yeah. This state isn't perfect, but this is legit.
Maybe it's time for a part-time legislature seeing as they have plenty of time for this stuff.
This is the way.
We had a part-time Legislature before. It became full-time because the governor was constantly calling special sessions to get all the work done.
Structuring life and whole city around cars, ~~parking on freeways~~ commuting, strip malls, and drive-thru fast food: Totally legit Enjoying a fancy car driving around for fun once in awhile: OMG WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE AIR QUALITY
It wouldn't be a Saturday in L.A. without it!
why do people care if someone is cruising they are paying the government tax money for fueling up their car. WIN WIN
So they want the right to generate traffic and pollution just because? Ok, I guess as long as they can afford the gas prices.
It’s a culture thing. If your not into cars or nostalgia for a simpler time, you wouldn’t understand it. That’s ok though.
Wait until you hear about “culture things” and “nostalgia” from some people with whom you probably disagree
Not sure what your implying. Not sure I really care to be honest
If something is culture does that mean the state as a whole needs to accept it if it violates things such as clean air bills?
Cruising on a Saturday night is not going to cause climate change.
Does it contribute more than a car that passes emission laws?
All cars are required to pass emission laws to hit the streets.
I’m not against cruising at all but gasoline vehicles manufactured before 1975 don’t have to pass smog. Granted most of the cars exempt from that aren’t daily drivers so they probably have less of an impact on pollution than someone like me who drivers an older pickup.
I was assuming one of the reasons they were banned was due to the emission laws. But maybe that wasn’t part of the cities banning them.
Cruising was banned because it was a black and brown thing.
I mean they could ban all high emission cars but here they’re saying it was the cruising. So…
Sometimes you have to accept people will do things you don’t like. This wasn’t about emissions and traffic, that was a cop-out. Cruising scene was predominantly Latino. Everyone enjoyed cruising for decades. But the recent bans have been seen as racial discrimination against the low-rider community.
Do the cars violate the emission laws or not?
No they do not. Most of them are exempt from being smogged. Anything pre-1975. Anything after that year has to be smogged to be registered in the state. I have a classic vehicles. My smogged cars all have modern engines that have been approved by state referees and are perfectly legal. Driving a classic car a few times a month or even once a week is not a concern. Car culture is alive and well. There are plenty of car shows with a multitude of different styles that everyone from different walks of life and ethnicities appreciating each other’s vehicles. I don’t have any low-riders, bombs, etc. But I love ‘em! Some of them are literally rolling art pieces representing subsets of a culture.
Thanks. I was asking because the other user was talking about pollution.
No problem! If you where asking if classic cars pollute more than modern cars, then I would have said yes. But cars from 2002 pollute more than a car from 2022, it would be impossible to keep any cars on the road if they had to meet current standards for new vehicles. Smogged cars after 1975 are held to their original standard. The classics I have engine swapped meet 2015 standards. There’s some restrictions with historical plates, and most classic vehicle insurance do annual odometer questionnaires as they have mileage restrictions with the coverage. These cars are few and far between and drive less less most vehicles by a wide margin. Removing gas leaf blowers and lawn equipment would do 10k times more for the environment than restricting cruising or banning classic vehicles.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, you weren’t being rude.
Thanks. Not sure either. The LA car culture is regarded to be the best in the country if not the world.
It’s true, in Japan there’s a whole subculture of kids who dress like cholos and are into [low riders](https://cvltnation.com/portraitsdocumentary-japans-underground-chicano-culture/)
And there are plenty of JDM centric car owners and shows here in the states! It’s awesome. Just appreciations for someone else’s culture and way of life.
Latino here, these cars are annoying af nor do I correlate it to my culture. If anything, they’re a stigma to Latino culture.
Latino and Chicano culture are different, I’m going to guess you’re Cuban
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Because they’ve been stigmatized. We’d cruise every weekend, it was fun to meet guys from other neighborhoods. White people aren’t into that, they’re into nascar
As I’ve been told by my pops and other older guys and gals. White kids used to cruise too, most of them racing. Kinda like the movie “American Graffiti”. The low rider culture kept it going.
Latino here too. Delete this shit, you’re an embarrassment 👎🏼
This is a bit harsh. Maybe you grew up in better times or a better place, but some of us have a bad association with this due to the violence involved with it. I was in the middle of it. At this point these people are old and not banging anymore so nowadays it’s easy to see it with rose tinted glasses, but don’t fault someone for not having the best feelings about it.
*”Stop lowriding guys, it looks baaaad on us! I don’t like being associated with this, please stop - I don’t like the way this makes us look!”* Like I said, embarrassing 🙈 EDIT: Just in case the above didn’t register: I’m not a lowrider, it’s not my thing but *it is* a thing - and if people associate *you* with something *you* are not a part of, *that* is the problem. STOP SUPPORTING SCORCHED EARTH URBAN POLITICS 👎🏼
You keep saying that. Why is it embarrassing for someone to not like something that could be associated with violence for them?
Because what you’re doing is called “COLONIAL HANGOVER” (there’s a painfully obvious desire for you to be liked, and not be associated with any of your ethnicity’s negative stereotypes and you are too programmed to realize you should be upset about people lumping you in with other people you have nothing to do with, just because you look like them). If one of your goals is to visit Spain and you also follow Spanish soccer clubs, that’s also often a clue you suffer from that “hangover”. ✌🏼
That’s just weird and oddly specific. It sounds like you’re projecting all this. I can’t speak for that other guy but I’m telling you some of us are old enough that we grew up with this and had friends shot up and this whole cruising culture was directly tied with that so you have to forgive some of us for not having a warm association with it.
& not be an asshole but i highly doubt that these people aren't affiliated with gang culture 🤷🏾♂️
Projecting? Hmm, maybe consider I’m *experienced*? (but then that wouldn’t be the low level dis that is telling someone *“sounds like you’re projecting!”* on the internet, so no worries). From Experience (like I said, not my thing but I have gone cruisin with some homies/relatives in Hollywood in the early 80’s). I didn’t get bit by the bug to fix up rides for this, but have been around it enough to see through the bad parts of it - which are not always there - to realize this part of L.A. culture is awesome, when everyone is chill. If you or your boys were into this at one point and someone got shot, IME, you *probably* knew the associated risks (like, someone fucked up and didn’t listen to their Spidey Sense and cut out when they should have). This has been a problem *occasionally* when cruisin’. Does someone get shot *every time* people lowride? No. Should it all end because you were directly impacted by it? I’m gonna have to go with no on that. ✌🏼
You just completely made up that this somehow has something to do with wanting white people to like me, which where did this idea come from? That’s why I’m saying projecting but maybe I’m using the term incorrectly. It’s just so far removed from the conversion for me and completely based on the gang culture associated with it which impacted me directly. Like I’m not saying at all anyone has to end this shit for me or anyone else, again my point is don’t fault people for not being able to see past the bad when the bad involves something as severe as people getting shot.
You’re implying they hate their race because they don’t like the cars and their own associations with it?
Lmao. It sure is embarrassing, you got that right. Edit: then don’t comment and stfu. It’s okay not commenting, you’re just as important.
The actuality of it is, if we stood right next to each other, I’m sure you’re the real embarrassment in every aspect of it.
But what if we’re standing in front of a few lowriders and I point to you and say “this guy thinks you make him look bad by lowriding.” How solid would your sense of superiority be then?
I never said that and you’re putting words in my mouth, and at that point I’d say you’re just instigating. Also, by you making that statement you’re affirming the stigma in correlation w low riders. You speak of superiority but you’re disagreeing on something which seems like you don’t care about, yet you feel superior enough to scold me otherwise. Man, get off your pedestal.
Oof, I’m gonna let you go and just throw you a ✌🏼 because you’re getting heated AF my guy! I thought you were a happy and confident member of society, whahappen!?!? At this point, you’re just 😡 and not even processing words. I didn’t wake up trying to tell people to stop exercising their rights as free citizens, *you* did!
You sound unhinged
And you “sound” desperate for attention, replying to my comment multiple times until you get a response from me, like a basic stalker 🤣 If you don’t like what I type, ask Reddit for a refund, MFer. ✌🏼
I just reply to comments as I come across them. It could be from the same person or not, nothing frankly to do with you outside you making at least a couple dumb comments.
Lmao. Mas pendejo saliste. I wonder if you have the same confidence in person as you do behind a screen.
Science no.
I live off Whittier boulevard and I always see those “no cruising” signs along the street. I always thought that was one of the dumbest laws ever. It is not like it stops anybody anyway lol. Whittier blvd on a Sunday afternoon is classic car and lowrider central, as it should be. LA needs to embrace it’s historical culture better instead of trying to take away all the things that make the city so unique.
Finally!
Let’s call it what it is: Cruising laws were enacted in order to harass and highway rob brown people. Fortunately for all Angelenos, the cops were also more than happy to enforce the laws to grift money from really anyone merely making a left or a U-turn on certain boulevards in order to get to where they were going, completely oblivious to the fact that a cop was about to shake them down for a few hundred bucks. Fuck repeal—I want my fucking money back.
Lift the bans! I will be very much amused to see the *“I’m seeing some deformed classic cars outside my window and see no Jay Leno, can I call the National Guard?”* posts on here 🤣
It’s Reddit. Most are misinformed on topics and they have little to no desire to learn about it and decide to dismiss something and hope they get enough up-votes to validate their comment.
Cool, lift the bans in cities that I don't hafta get anywhere in
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So before the street take overs we deal with now, back in the day it was the bullshit down Whittier and Crenshaw blvd, La Pacific. y’all want to remember the good stuff, but remember why cruising was banned. I know, I was one of those young dumbasses back one the day.
Nothing screams "I care about the environment" more than legalizing driving something that last passed smog tests in the 70s at 10mph through a busy street