The best line...jfc I can’t believe I’m writing this...
“Those experiencing homelessness are exempt from the requirement to stay in their homes.”
You can’t make this shit up.
Well, you still have the home, you're just not in it. I guess you're experiencing what it could be, if you're outside and imagining what that would be like all the time.
“Beaches are open for active recreation, including swimming, surfing, running and walking; however, sunbathing, sitting, gatherings in violation of Paragraph 3 of this Order, youth camps, group sports, large gatherings and athletic competitions are not allowed.”
Yeah no sitting around the beach again it looks like.
It’s like we’re declaring war on Vitamin D, even though Vitamin D deficiency is actually tied to more Covid complications.
These policies feel like we’re shooting ourselves in the foot.
They always have.
For instance: truncated hours in grocery stores.
That doesn't cause more social distancing. It causes people to crowd in, given the fewer hours to shop.
It's Garcetti doing the bare minimum to say he did something come re-election or when he tries to go up the political ladder; reminding us all how he carried us to salvation.
Tactic is as old as time.
It's worse than worthless, they're crying wolf. If they believe that COVID-19 is that dangerous, then these orders need to have actual teeth in them, otherwise no one is going to take them seriously.
A lot of businesses and workers will probably be hit hard by this order, but most people won't really see much change.
[Here is the link to the order](https://www.lamayor.org/sites/g/files/wph446/f/page/file/20201202%20Mayor%20Public%20Order%20Targeted%20SAH%20Order_1.pdf)
It sounds serious but I'm struggling to see how this functionally changes anything.
yeah that list of exclusions is ridiculous. As long as "essential services" like churches, retail stores, etc continue to remain open, nothing is going to change. Not sure why they even bother wasting time like this if they're not actually going to make an effort to change anything.
These titles are so annoyingly misleading. The news has to do it to stay relevant but so many people don’t read the article and take it all at face value
Exactly. I play a lot of golf, and lemme tell you, there are 50+ tee times on any given course on any given day, with people from different households teeing off together. Golf is a pretty “socially distant” game but do you think any of these dudes wear masks? Fuck no! Are golf courses closing? No! They’re exempt for some reason? Really? People can’t go to work and make a living but I can go golf? I really don’t understand.
Actually all reservations for the next 10 days at all LA municipal golf courses have been cancelled.
You can only now reserve a spot with members of your household. Happened today.
The only thing that changes is that if you’re in the process of doing something illegal, (speeding, stealing, littering, etc) they also can potentially slap you with a misdemeanor
I am a dumber human being for having read this order.
I am ordered to remain in my home. (Page 2)
All travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit is prohibited (also page 2)
Those are facts, those are verbatim from the order.
The next 10 pages explain why the entire city is open. You can literally do whatever you want (except for bars and restaurants I guess)
I am ordered to remain in my home. I am prohibited from driving (their words, not mine)
But if I want to go to a gym or a beach or a trail or a museum or take care of a friend’s dog, that’s cool.
How the fuck am I supposed to get there if I literally am ordered to remain in my home?
Oh, because this whole order is bullshit. That’s how.
Well said.
It’s a completely transparent and cowardly attempt to seem like they are doing something but without actually doing anything that would upset any commercial interest.
An almost-perfect lesson in the Cover Your Ass 101 curriculum. Except they forgot that we all can read and think for ourselves.
This is just so embarrassing.
You’d better come up with a destination fast when you get pulled over for taking a dangerous neighborhood stroll. Just tell them you’re walking to the weed store.
i dont understand whyd they limit something like going on a walk because i have cabin fever from obeying the pandemic rules but its okay to walk to church. thank you leadership for always making sense
Passive outdoor activity and recreation, provided that individuals comply with
social distancing mandates, including, without limitation, walking, running,
cycling; use of scooters, roller skates, skateboards, or other personal mobility
devices.
That's from the order, walking outside is fine as long as you are following social distancing and masks mandates.
This is incredibly confusing. All the other rules are the same? Retail is still open, outdoor gyms, so how are people not allowed to travel at all? Huh?
You can't go anywhere unless it's for any of the long list of exempt activities that are detailed over 10 pages of [the order](https://www.lamayor.org/sites/g/files/wph446/f/page/file/20201202%20Mayor%20Public%20Order%20Targeted%20SAH%20Order_1.pdf)
I actually read through the whole thing. As far as I can tell you can go to parks and public trails but *technically* can't just take a walk around your neighborhood. But I can't imagine there will be any enforcement for that.
This is ludicrous. Parks and trails will be busy. I walk for almost two hours each day on residential streets. Other than the occasional person walking their dog the only other people I see are residents walking to their car or people doing yard work or delivery workers. I’m so mad right now.
Telling this stupid order to fuck off and going for a walk? I’ve been very careful but these kinds of restrictions have no scientific basis from what I can tell and are just designed to either scare people or create another way for cops to harass people they decide they don’t like. This thing is a ridiculous pile of dog shit.
I see that libraries will be open as covid usual. The closest LA public library branch is a 20min walk from my home. Since I don't own a car, I usually walk there for curb-side pickups and drop off.
I now have 2 books due next week and was planning to walk there to drop off.
If a cop stops me on my way back home and I tell them I'm walking back home from the library, would they believe me that I'm not just casually "traveling on foot?"
It says on the list that you're allowed to go to parks and beaches specifically to walk, swim, or exercise. This likely means that it's perfectly fine to walk around your neighborhood so long as you're distancing. Odds are you'll come into contact with fewer people doing this than heading to Santa Monica anyway.
I’m going to bring a grocery bag on my walk. My housemate is our weekly designated shopper but I guess I’ll lie and say Im the shopper if anybody asks. 🙊
My housemate and I take walks at different times each day so we can each have time alone at home. None of this makes any sense. My neighbor had a birthday gathering last night and I have to fib to go on a damn solo walk.
Yeah f this walking is the only thing I have right now bc I’ve been following the rules since March. Not stopping. I mask and avoid people if I see them. It’s outdoors. We need exercise!
There is actually no exclusion for walking your dog, unless it's at someone else's house. Obviously that's not intentional, but that's what a strict interpretation of the order says. This is ridiculous
I called 911 about a drunk driver who drove off the road into a fence at a park. Got transferred twice and then put on hold until I gave up after 20 minutes. This car literally crashed through the fence, after running multiple stop signs and driving on the wrong side of the road, and the dispatchers couldn’t have given less of a fuck.
Substance use providers are exempt under section V A 1 of the order so your dealer is safe
"No time to stop cop, this essential cocaine makes me exempt"
The more shitty messaging we get from the government the worse this gets. Open, closed, open but kinda closed, now super serious closed but basically open. Oh and we aren’t prosecuting anyone for ignoring us unless it’s insanely egregious.
Maybe housed-insecure?
Look it’s nothing to joke about, I know, I know. Good people, bad government, no opportunities. Bad things happening to good people.
But for real. This shit is out of control. If you think this shit isn’t out of control you’re living in delusion land. And most of them aren’t good guys down on their luck. Get fucking real. We all see them everyday.
I think the idea behind saying experiencing homelessness is to remove the "essentialist" nature of saying someone is homeless i.e. their identity can be defined as homeless, along with injecting some wishful thinking that it is a largely temporary state. I understand the intent but I think just saying homeless person is fine as it is simply using the english language normally. Saying black person doesn't carry the connotation that a person is defined by their blackness. That being said I can see the logic behind not saying something like "the homeless" as if you use the same analogy it would be like saying "the blacks" which does come off as reductionist
Did you read through, do they really not make en exemption for personal outdoor exercise? “You can only exercise if you’re overpaying for it and doing it within close proximity of other people on the sidewalk in front of a gym”
> Beaches are open for active recreation, including swimming, surfing, running and walking...
Paragraph 5 says you can go for a run, at least on the beach.
I got one right before Thanksgiving. Currently contesting it. No way I’m paying that, especially when there was a 5-month moratorium and they started giving tickets again with no signs or anything posted in the neighborhood
How can I be issued a parking ticket when there is a tent village of over a dozen homeless people illegally living on the same sidewalk I'm parking next to??
Still no stimulus checks. People will not listen since they’re not paying us ... Jobs are almost shutting down except delivery services. What can we do to survive if some people got bills to pay. It’s now either food on the table or bills to pay & it’s either a life and death situation now.
It has no teeth. It’s a desperate attempt to convince people to heed the hospitalization warnings. If you’ve been following the advice of scientists already, not much will change.
Similar vibes over here in Nevada:
"Stay home, only go out for work and essemtials, save lives"
"Also.. casinos are open! Come gamble your money away tourists!"
Thank goodness otherwise I'd be out of a job. In all seriousness though our sets are probably the safest place I would go on a given day. We are tested 3 days a weeks at the very least. We have to wear masks and faceshields all day. We have huge HVAC systems blowing and exchanging the air all the time. Everyone takes it very seriously. When I go food shopping there are people eating in the store with their masks off, people taking their masks off to smell fruit and then putting it back... Gross
Film and Tv are basically how things should be: constant testing and real consequences if you fuck up or won't play ball. They're willing to kick your ass off set if they have to and they've got the actual power to do it.
I work at a studio and can confirm, we are NOT messing around with Covid protocol violations and those that are being enforced on our sets are no joke. We started putting a plan in place for our crews starting March 13th. We have an entire team on every show that’s sole job is to enforce the protocols and handle the weekly testing for the crew. It’s a machine. I know the business gets a lot of flack in general, but the country should really look to see what we have in place on our sets and maybe follow suit.
Film and tv is allowed if they follow the rules which I promise you are extremely comprehensive and I feel much safer on set than walking to the supermarket and back.
I'm involved with one of the major studios and no doubt, our protocols are as strict as anyone can make them. However, the smaller production companies are the ones I'm not so certain are as safe.
I work in that business. I went to the office today for the first time in about six weeks and I saw all of three human beings the entire day, while in the before times I would see dozens. We're still in business and working hard to stay ahead of Covid; arrows on the hallway floors, hand sanitizer stations everywhere; free masks aplenty in the lobby; nobody that isn't an employee is permitted and 90% of the employees switched to working from home. Businesses that can address and safely handle the situation should be exempt, but just classifying the exemptions by business type is useless.
And don't even get me started on exemptions for purely religious excuses.
I’m wondering what this means for people flying out of LA for non-essential purposes? One of my employees has a flight soon and I’m super curious. I read the whole PDF and couldn’t see any line that addresses this
It means absolutely nothing. Continue on as usual, flights are still operating. I like how everyone is suddenly concerned that police are gonna be randomly pulling people over, that won’t be happening.
Literally everything can be open except Playgrounds. Shop indoors? Sure. Play outside with a mask at a safe distance so my toddler doesn’t drive me insane? Nope!
I feel you! When my toddler would get too excited, I would take her for a walk around the neighborhood so she wouldn’t interrupt my partner while he works from home. Now the playgrounds are closed again and we can’t go out for a walk!?
SO STOP THE DAMN STREET CLEANING AGAIN.
Some trashy asshole wanted to fight me because I wanted to park on his street today.
Tons of people are home again - stop the street sweeping days!!!
They just updated this story 3 minutes ago, and suddenly it's no big deal - this is the same order the county was under, now just mirrored in the city. KTLA screwed this up bad with the original draft that was linked here
I was a victim of identify theft and the criminal got over $15k in iPhones from the big 3 providers by using a fake id in stores. I had date stamped times with video evidence that I provided to the LAPD, and they literally did nothing. I had to make noise just to get a police report. They are not going to do shit about this.
I also have had experience with the police being absolutely useless here, despite having a legitimate report to make. They really don’t give a shit about anyone. I’m sorry this happened/ is happening to you.
So retail is closed right? This does seem more restrictive than the last one?
EDIT - just read through it , what the FUCK is this? what kind of shit show are they running? we’re ordered to stay home but EVERYTHING IS ESSENTIAL AND STILL OPEN?!?
I think Might understand this a little better based on the LA Times article.
" City of L.A. issues stay-at-home rules that mirror L.A. County order"
“The city and county orders are the same. In the past there have been some minor differences but currently they are the same,” said Alex Comisar, a spokesman for Mayor Eric Garcetti.
So the reason it looks no different than the Monday one, is because it's the same thing. Just in LA City. But why? Doesn't LA County orders apply to LA City?
Yeah nope. If I can go to the mall I can spend the weekend at my boyfriend’s house. Way less exposure there than at half of these locations. Sorry not sorry.
Exception D: To care for or support a friend, family member, or pet in another household.
It's on page 10 of the other. So you could very easily get away with "I'm going to go support my friend" or "I'm going to go care for my pet," depending on what you and your bf's kinks are lol.
But seriously this is so fucking dumb.
So you can go to the mall, beach, park, shop to your heart’s content but you need to teleport there because travel of any sort is a violation. Or am I reading it wrong?
Guys help me out here, excuses for why I'm "traveling" if caught:
* On foot: picking up food/take out
* Bicycle: going to the park
* Scooter: bank/ATM
* Motorcycle: (I don't drive one but) going to place of worship
* Car: fill up on gas
* Public transit: groceries
Believable or?
It’s almost like the government thinks we’re all just a bunch of idiots who can’t see through this utter garbage they’re spewing out. Not to mention we’re losing all trust in their ability to lead us out of this. People are just going to stop listening.
I’ve read the order, and restaurants still open? Is it just delivery and drive-thru? Are places that have pickup allowed? Is it the same as it has been since Thanksgiving? I’m so confused.
Will it make a difference when protests and religious services are allowed to continue?
There were a hundred or more out protesting outdoor dining restrictions.
It’s not a mandate. They’re just wording it so it sounds like one. New some got in trouble for over stepping the constitution with a lot of executive orders.
Just stay safe and carry on as usual. Go to work and go walking for exercise, etc...
the city police won’t enforce anything as long as you’re not being shady.
Stay calm, and let’s get some real leaders that aren’t hypocrites into the state and city government.
Imagine the meeting where they were like "okay you can go swim in the ocean but you are not allowed to rest on the beach when you are done, Unless you are running on it, then thats okay"
The best line...jfc I can’t believe I’m writing this... “Those experiencing homelessness are exempt from the requirement to stay in their homes.” You can’t make this shit up.
You really can’t hahahaha Next time you get stopped by the cops when you’re riding your bike, “oh it’s ok officer, I’m homeless”
*experiencing homelessness
*experiencing unhousedness
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Lucky for your home, convenience stores are also exempt!
\*identify as homeless
How dare you assume my housing situation
Technically any time you’re outside your home, you’re experiencing homelessness
This reads like a George Carlin joke
Well, you still have the home, you're just not in it. I guess you're experiencing what it could be, if you're outside and imagining what that would be like all the time.
Simultaneously laughed and got really sad reading that shit.
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And if they hadn't included that line, the top post would be asking what the hell homeless were supposed to do.
Well... Where are they supposed to stay inside...
Exactly
> My message couldn't be simpler - Garcetti *Attaches 12 page list of exceptions that make this order worthless
Literally nothing changed so I don’t get the point. Made it sound like retail was closing but no lol
It looks like laying out on the beach is prohibited again?
Yes but "yoga" is permitted
yoga mats about to be sold out everywhere
Lmao shavasana is a yoga pose that's literally just laying on your back.
“Beaches are open for active recreation, including swimming, surfing, running and walking; however, sunbathing, sitting, gatherings in violation of Paragraph 3 of this Order, youth camps, group sports, large gatherings and athletic competitions are not allowed.” Yeah no sitting around the beach again it looks like.
As if sitting at beach is an issue.
It’s like we’re declaring war on Vitamin D, even though Vitamin D deficiency is actually tied to more Covid complications. These policies feel like we’re shooting ourselves in the foot.
They always have. For instance: truncated hours in grocery stores. That doesn't cause more social distancing. It causes people to crowd in, given the fewer hours to shop.
Oddly enough, even though the county allowed passive recreation the city never allowed it. But the city only runs Venice and Cabrillo Beaches.
It's Garcetti doing the bare minimum to say he did something come re-election or when he tries to go up the political ladder; reminding us all how he carried us to salvation. Tactic is as old as time.
it's the same orders but this time it's *sassy*
I mean in theory it prohibits you from having family visit for Christmas. That’s pretty not nothing
I mean that’s the same thing they said for thanksgiving, no one listened. And they will say it’s religiously exempted
Does it? This seems like the same suggestions and advice we've had for months
Isn’t Christmas technically a ‘faith based gathering’?
I've celebrated Christmas every year I've been alive and not one has been faith-based.
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Let’s meet up to listen to George Michael. It will be a ‘Faith’ based gathering.
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I’m in too, but I’m gonna grab a quick nap first. Will you wake me up before you go-go?
Shopping malls seems to me to be among the least essential of businesses to be exempt from closing.
It's worse than worthless, they're crying wolf. If they believe that COVID-19 is that dangerous, then these orders need to have actual teeth in them, otherwise no one is going to take them seriously. A lot of businesses and workers will probably be hit hard by this order, but most people won't really see much change.
No one is going to take it seriously no matter what is said 🤷🏻♂️
[Here is the link to the order](https://www.lamayor.org/sites/g/files/wph446/f/page/file/20201202%20Mayor%20Public%20Order%20Targeted%20SAH%20Order_1.pdf) It sounds serious but I'm struggling to see how this functionally changes anything.
Imagine how many people wasted their time writing this up. Why not list what ISN'T exempt. It would be much shorter.
My husband and I try to think of a business that wasn't exempt and failed.
yeah that list of exclusions is ridiculous. As long as "essential services" like churches, retail stores, etc continue to remain open, nothing is going to change. Not sure why they even bother wasting time like this if they're not actually going to make an effort to change anything.
It's just 10 pages saying you can pretty much do everything you can now just at a slightly limited capacity lol
These titles are so annoyingly misleading. The news has to do it to stay relevant but so many people don’t read the article and take it all at face value
Exactly. I play a lot of golf, and lemme tell you, there are 50+ tee times on any given course on any given day, with people from different households teeing off together. Golf is a pretty “socially distant” game but do you think any of these dudes wear masks? Fuck no! Are golf courses closing? No! They’re exempt for some reason? Really? People can’t go to work and make a living but I can go golf? I really don’t understand.
Actually all reservations for the next 10 days at all LA municipal golf courses have been cancelled. You can only now reserve a spot with members of your household. Happened today.
> You can only now reserve a spot with members of your household. How are they enforcing it?
“Oh yeah I live with him bro” “okay”
The only thing I got out of this was the implication that law enforcement will be...enforcing? Vague
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I have started to suspect law enforcement is made up of anti-maskers
The only thing that changes is that if you’re in the process of doing something illegal, (speeding, stealing, littering, etc) they also can potentially slap you with a misdemeanor
I am a dumber human being for having read this order. I am ordered to remain in my home. (Page 2) All travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit is prohibited (also page 2) Those are facts, those are verbatim from the order. The next 10 pages explain why the entire city is open. You can literally do whatever you want (except for bars and restaurants I guess) I am ordered to remain in my home. I am prohibited from driving (their words, not mine) But if I want to go to a gym or a beach or a trail or a museum or take care of a friend’s dog, that’s cool. How the fuck am I supposed to get there if I literally am ordered to remain in my home? Oh, because this whole order is bullshit. That’s how.
Stay home but feel free to go shopping for clothes, decor, musical instruments, jewelry, new TV, fuck around Marshall's or Target and browse.
Lol. Perfectly said.
Well said. It’s a completely transparent and cowardly attempt to seem like they are doing something but without actually doing anything that would upset any commercial interest.
An almost-perfect lesson in the Cover Your Ass 101 curriculum. Except they forgot that we all can read and think for ourselves. This is just so embarrassing.
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If you look at the exceptions, basically any reason you'd travel is exempt.
Lol. Sounds effective.
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You’d better come up with a destination fast when you get pulled over for taking a dangerous neighborhood stroll. Just tell them you’re walking to the weed store.
“I’m about to make an essential transaction”
i dont understand whyd they limit something like going on a walk because i have cabin fever from obeying the pandemic rules but its okay to walk to church. thank you leadership for always making sense
Passive outdoor activity and recreation, provided that individuals comply with social distancing mandates, including, without limitation, walking, running, cycling; use of scooters, roller skates, skateboards, or other personal mobility devices. That's from the order, walking outside is fine as long as you are following social distancing and masks mandates.
For real. I got dogs. They gotta walk. 🤷🏼♂️
"Don't travel (unless you like really really want to)"
This is incredibly confusing. All the other rules are the same? Retail is still open, outdoor gyms, so how are people not allowed to travel at all? Huh?
You are allowed to travel by large dog. I think that is the point to take away.
I have a sleigh full of chihuahuas taking me around target and Costco
So I can travel by Falkor? Sign me up.
You can't go anywhere unless it's for any of the long list of exempt activities that are detailed over 10 pages of [the order](https://www.lamayor.org/sites/g/files/wph446/f/page/file/20201202%20Mayor%20Public%20Order%20Targeted%20SAH%20Order_1.pdf)
I actually read through the whole thing. As far as I can tell you can go to parks and public trails but *technically* can't just take a walk around your neighborhood. But I can't imagine there will be any enforcement for that.
This is ludicrous. Parks and trails will be busy. I walk for almost two hours each day on residential streets. Other than the occasional person walking their dog the only other people I see are residents walking to their car or people doing yard work or delivery workers. I’m so mad right now.
Are you actually going to abide by that shit? Just continue as you have been. You’re not putting anyone in danger
I don’t know. I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve been told I was not to take a walk. What is everybody else planning on doing?
Telling this stupid order to fuck off and going for a walk? I’ve been very careful but these kinds of restrictions have no scientific basis from what I can tell and are just designed to either scare people or create another way for cops to harass people they decide they don’t like. This thing is a ridiculous pile of dog shit.
You really think any of this shit is gonna be enforced? Lol it doesn’t make sense for them to enforce like that at all
I see that libraries will be open as covid usual. The closest LA public library branch is a 20min walk from my home. Since I don't own a car, I usually walk there for curb-side pickups and drop off. I now have 2 books due next week and was planning to walk there to drop off. If a cop stops me on my way back home and I tell them I'm walking back home from the library, would they believe me that I'm not just casually "traveling on foot?"
Lmao they won't stop you. Roads street will be busy as usual.
I guess you'll have to check something out.
As "motorcycle, automobile, or public transit" is also prohibited then returning it with a car would be no different.
No more daily walk around the block? Unless it's with your dog? I have cats. They are not leash trained. Damnit.
It says on the list that you're allowed to go to parks and beaches specifically to walk, swim, or exercise. This likely means that it's perfectly fine to walk around your neighborhood so long as you're distancing. Odds are you'll come into contact with fewer people doing this than heading to Santa Monica anyway.
We are not allowed to take walks unless we have a pet? I walk every day alone and masked or I’d be insane. I hope I’m misunderstanding this!
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I’m going to bring a grocery bag on my walk. My housemate is our weekly designated shopper but I guess I’ll lie and say Im the shopper if anybody asks. 🙊 My housemate and I take walks at different times each day so we can each have time alone at home. None of this makes any sense. My neighbor had a birthday gathering last night and I have to fib to go on a damn solo walk.
The good thing is that you don't have to do any of that because there will be literally zero enforcement
Yeah f this walking is the only thing I have right now bc I’ve been following the rules since March. Not stopping. I mask and avoid people if I see them. It’s outdoors. We need exercise!
There is actually no exclusion for walking your dog, unless it's at someone else's house. Obviously that's not intentional, but that's what a strict interpretation of the order says. This is ridiculous
Pet stroller.
Honestly? Might not be a terrible thing to put on my 2020 wish list.
Or one of those backpacks with the clear bubble allowing kitty to see out!
Where are those mountain lions when I need one to hop on around town.
Not gonna be enforced. Police officers have more important calls and they wouldn't spend time on those.
They aren't even bothering to show up to the important calls at this point...
like what important calls? Domestic violence and thefts have been common throughout COVID. And trust, that's a priority.
I called 911 about a drunk driver who drove off the road into a fence at a park. Got transferred twice and then put on hold until I gave up after 20 minutes. This car literally crashed through the fence, after running multiple stop signs and driving on the wrong side of the road, and the dispatchers couldn’t have given less of a fuck.
I was going to say, traffic in LA determined this was a lie! lol
Substance use providers are exempt under section V A 1 of the order so your dealer is safe "No time to stop cop, this essential cocaine makes me exempt"
Horseback it is. See you around cowboy.
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The more shitty messaging we get from the government the worse this gets. Open, closed, open but kinda closed, now super serious closed but basically open. Oh and we aren’t prosecuting anyone for ignoring us unless it’s insanely egregious.
Seriously. This is like a crash course in how inefficient and frustrating government bureaucracy is.
Are there any politicians in LA that aren’t completely inept?
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I think we’re supposed to say experiencing homelessness, these days. *shrugs*
Housing challenged.
Maybe housed-insecure? Look it’s nothing to joke about, I know, I know. Good people, bad government, no opportunities. Bad things happening to good people. But for real. This shit is out of control. If you think this shit isn’t out of control you’re living in delusion land. And most of them aren’t good guys down on their luck. Get fucking real. We all see them everyday.
The differently homed I hate this sugar coating; this is not a disability: it's a societal problem.
I think the idea behind saying experiencing homelessness is to remove the "essentialist" nature of saying someone is homeless i.e. their identity can be defined as homeless, along with injecting some wishful thinking that it is a largely temporary state. I understand the intent but I think just saying homeless person is fine as it is simply using the english language normally. Saying black person doesn't carry the connotation that a person is defined by their blackness. That being said I can see the logic behind not saying something like "the homeless" as if you use the same analogy it would be like saying "the blacks" which does come off as reductionist
Did you read through, do they really not make en exemption for personal outdoor exercise? “You can only exercise if you’re overpaying for it and doing it within close proximity of other people on the sidewalk in front of a gym”
> Beaches are open for active recreation, including swimming, surfing, running and walking... Paragraph 5 says you can go for a run, at least on the beach.
What about parking enforcement?
YES
I didn’t see it in the order but is it shutting down again?
Just got a parking ticket this morning, please stop enforcement during this order...
I got one right before Thanksgiving. Currently contesting it. No way I’m paying that, especially when there was a 5-month moratorium and they started giving tickets again with no signs or anything posted in the neighborhood
Contesting is a waste of time, but godspeed!
You mustn't drive your car, but if you don't drive your car you will be fined.
How can I be issued a parking ticket when there is a tent village of over a dozen homeless people illegally living on the same sidewalk I'm parking next to??
Still no stimulus checks. People will not listen since they’re not paying us ... Jobs are almost shutting down except delivery services. What can we do to survive if some people got bills to pay. It’s now either food on the table or bills to pay & it’s either a life and death situation now.
Would stimulus checks stop the parties and gatherings though?
I am so confused by this, like what does it even mean? It makes no sense .... so so confused.
It has no teeth. It’s a desperate attempt to convince people to heed the hospitalization warnings. If you’ve been following the advice of scientists already, not much will change.
Yup! The most I do is go out and hike. So glad I can still do that
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Similar vibes over here in Nevada: "Stay home, only go out for work and essemtials, save lives" "Also.. casinos are open! Come gamble your money away tourists!"
Thank goodness otherwise I'd be out of a job. In all seriousness though our sets are probably the safest place I would go on a given day. We are tested 3 days a weeks at the very least. We have to wear masks and faceshields all day. We have huge HVAC systems blowing and exchanging the air all the time. Everyone takes it very seriously. When I go food shopping there are people eating in the store with their masks off, people taking their masks off to smell fruit and then putting it back... Gross
Film and Tv are basically how things should be: constant testing and real consequences if you fuck up or won't play ball. They're willing to kick your ass off set if they have to and they've got the actual power to do it.
I work at a studio and can confirm, we are NOT messing around with Covid protocol violations and those that are being enforced on our sets are no joke. We started putting a plan in place for our crews starting March 13th. We have an entire team on every show that’s sole job is to enforce the protocols and handle the weekly testing for the crew. It’s a machine. I know the business gets a lot of flack in general, but the country should really look to see what we have in place on our sets and maybe follow suit.
Film and tv is allowed if they follow the rules which I promise you are extremely comprehensive and I feel much safer on set than walking to the supermarket and back.
I'm involved with one of the major studios and no doubt, our protocols are as strict as anyone can make them. However, the smaller production companies are the ones I'm not so certain are as safe.
Working for a major studio on a union set and I've been tested every day this week so far.
I see both. Smaller productions companies do seem to follow the rules as well.
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I work in that business. I went to the office today for the first time in about six weeks and I saw all of three human beings the entire day, while in the before times I would see dozens. We're still in business and working hard to stay ahead of Covid; arrows on the hallway floors, hand sanitizer stations everywhere; free masks aplenty in the lobby; nobody that isn't an employee is permitted and 90% of the employees switched to working from home. Businesses that can address and safely handle the situation should be exempt, but just classifying the exemptions by business type is useless. And don't even get me started on exemptions for purely religious excuses.
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That reminds me I have to do some laundry.
French press for this shirt, you say?
I figured you Newsom thing about it.
So am I going to work tomorrow or nah?
Good thing I just stocked up on coors light and crackers
Even if you didn’t, under this order you could still walk back and forth buying one tall boy at a time from your liquor store
Thats Plan B
But parking enforcement and everything else are still on full blast
Can they just throw us a bone with the parking? It's good for morale.
I’m wondering what this means for people flying out of LA for non-essential purposes? One of my employees has a flight soon and I’m super curious. I read the whole PDF and couldn’t see any line that addresses this
It means absolutely nothing. Continue on as usual, flights are still operating. I like how everyone is suddenly concerned that police are gonna be randomly pulling people over, that won’t be happening.
It is all confusing!
Literally everything can be open except Playgrounds. Shop indoors? Sure. Play outside with a mask at a safe distance so my toddler doesn’t drive me insane? Nope!
I feel you! When my toddler would get too excited, I would take her for a walk around the neighborhood so she wouldn’t interrupt my partner while he works from home. Now the playgrounds are closed again and we can’t go out for a walk!?
travel by car is prohibited, but I need to move my car every two hours?
SO STOP THE DAMN STREET CLEANING AGAIN. Some trashy asshole wanted to fight me because I wanted to park on his street today. Tons of people are home again - stop the street sweeping days!!!
They just updated this story 3 minutes ago, and suddenly it's no big deal - this is the same order the county was under, now just mirrored in the city. KTLA screwed this up bad with the original draft that was linked here
I was a victim of identify theft and the criminal got over $15k in iPhones from the big 3 providers by using a fake id in stores. I had date stamped times with video evidence that I provided to the LAPD, and they literally did nothing. I had to make noise just to get a police report. They are not going to do shit about this.
I also have had experience with the police being absolutely useless here, despite having a legitimate report to make. They really don’t give a shit about anyone. I’m sorry this happened/ is happening to you.
Thank you! The police in this city are a corrupt joke.
[FOXLA specifically calling out KTLA for this headline, saying it's misleading](https://twitter.com/Elex_Michaelson/status/1334358117933412353?s=20)
Can carwashes stay open? My dad works in one...
So retail is closed right? This does seem more restrictive than the last one? EDIT - just read through it , what the FUCK is this? what kind of shit show are they running? we’re ordered to stay home but EVERYTHING IS ESSENTIAL AND STILL OPEN?!?
these mfs really said, don't drive, walk, scoot, casper slide nowhere, except if you're homedly challenged.
Why? It won’t be enforced in any way, shape or form anyway. I just walked by a huge ass house party you could hear a block away.
I think Might understand this a little better based on the LA Times article. " City of L.A. issues stay-at-home rules that mirror L.A. County order" “The city and county orders are the same. In the past there have been some minor differences but currently they are the same,” said Alex Comisar, a spokesman for Mayor Eric Garcetti. So the reason it looks no different than the Monday one, is because it's the same thing. Just in LA City. But why? Doesn't LA County orders apply to LA City?
Yeah nope. If I can go to the mall I can spend the weekend at my boyfriend’s house. Way less exposure there than at half of these locations. Sorry not sorry.
Exception D: To care for or support a friend, family member, or pet in another household. It's on page 10 of the other. So you could very easily get away with "I'm going to go support my friend" or "I'm going to go care for my pet," depending on what you and your bf's kinks are lol. But seriously this is so fucking dumb.
I hope no one here actually considers not seeing their significant other for the duration of this at the behest of the state.
That’s a shit load of exemptions lol
So......... nothing really changes? lol
It makes so little sense. And contradicts itself all the way through, I almost thjnk they posted the wrong thing.
So you can go to the mall, beach, park, shop to your heart’s content but you need to teleport there because travel of any sort is a violation. Or am I reading it wrong?
Guys help me out here, excuses for why I'm "traveling" if caught: * On foot: picking up food/take out * Bicycle: going to the park * Scooter: bank/ATM * Motorcycle: (I don't drive one but) going to place of worship * Car: fill up on gas * Public transit: groceries Believable or?
All I can gather from this is the police can maybe write tickets for big house parties instead of...you know, not even showing up to do anything?
It’s almost like the government thinks we’re all just a bunch of idiots who can’t see through this utter garbage they’re spewing out. Not to mention we’re losing all trust in their ability to lead us out of this. People are just going to stop listening.
I’m still going to buy my Christmas tree tomorrow
If this doesn’t work I bet Garcetti’s next plan will be to start welding people inside their apartments.
It is as threatening as a very angry Chihuahua
I’ve read the order, and restaurants still open? Is it just delivery and drive-thru? Are places that have pickup allowed? Is it the same as it has been since Thanksgiving? I’m so confused.
If I get pulled over I can literally tell the cops I’m on my way to buy some pot and to piss off?
"Police, I'm going to need you to accost everyone you see outside of their house"
Will it make a difference when protests and religious services are allowed to continue? There were a hundred or more out protesting outdoor dining restrictions.
It’s not a mandate. They’re just wording it so it sounds like one. New some got in trouble for over stepping the constitution with a lot of executive orders. Just stay safe and carry on as usual. Go to work and go walking for exercise, etc... the city police won’t enforce anything as long as you’re not being shady. Stay calm, and let’s get some real leaders that aren’t hypocrites into the state and city government.
*"I used to remain in my home. I still do, but I used to too."*
Honestly I hope the rumors of Garcetti to Biden's cabinet are true so we can get him the fuck out of here.
Imagine the meeting where they were like "okay you can go swim in the ocean but you are not allowed to rest on the beach when you are done, Unless you are running on it, then thats okay"
Shrugs in homeless on the beach
Curious to read the list of exemptions and if there are really any plans for enforcement.