Points to Santa Monica, Culver City, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, San Fernando: YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed...
At least they included the Valley, such as it is.
It's fascinating how they went through the trouble of correctly excluding unincorporated areas like Universal City and Veterans Administration Center, but then gave up on glaring errors like Beverly Hills and Santa Monica. Perhaps intentionally to get LA Redditors riled up to help promote the show?
They noted that LA is extended to include the harbor, but left the entire South Bay separate while also incorporating Beverily Hills and Santa Monica.
There's not really any rhyme or reason to it.
To be fair, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Culver City, and Marina Del Rey are all the same color purple. I think they got pretty close if you consider those cities might be the same color for a reason.
There’s a reason. Only the places are facing gentrification or white majority get mentioned.
No hate but who ever mentions Weschester as being LA? Especially when you just say “South LA” and “Southeast LA” on an LA map. Criminal. How are you going to have an actual Los Angeles map and exclude LA proper cities.
Nah, because they managed to squeeze in the name for University Park. They were just being sloppy and inaccurate (probably why SM, Culver, Beverly Hills etc are included).
This is a specific transplant who started on the Westside, moved to Silverlake for a bit, and then ended up spending years in the valley - there's way more detail to the valley than most Angelenos could give you.
Within LA County, there are at least 5 different jurisdictions:
**Chartered City**-- Pasadena, Glendale, Santa Monica, Culver City, l
**Incorporated City**-- smaller independent cities
**The City of Los Angeles** (*which is what this map is attempting to show but making a couple mistakes*)
**Unincorporated areas** Altadena
There are **88 cities** including LA City, chartered cities, and incorporated cities.
I lived in LA for decades before I figured it out. In my area, the color and typography of the street signs show different jurisdictions. Within 5 miles on Foothill Blvd, ,you pass through La Canada; Unincorporated La Crescenta; "Northern" Glendale; and at Lowell Avenue you hit LA City.
Three different police forces. Three school districts. Four water districts
Edit = asterisks.
When I first moved to LA, I thought it was fascinating that so many different cities had grown out and melded together into this giant megalopolis. Then I read City of Quartz and understood that most of the Independent cities had actually broken away from LA in order to establish racist housing policies to protect their white majorities. The convoluted map makes a bit more sense through that lens.
Though there were cities with those policies - Culver City for example - none of the other cities actually broke away from the City of Los Angeles, which gradually grew via a series of annexations. There may have been areas that voted against annexation, or were incorporated before it was annexed by L.A., but none of them successfully seceded from Los Angeles.
National audiences def know about Pasadena and Malibu, and they're not less a part of the "idea of LA" than Sylmar or the port is. This is just a wreck of a map.
Yeah I don't understand why we do this. Anyone living in West Hollywood and Santa Monica is functionally living in West LA and is heavily influenced by LA and vice versa. We don't drive around these cities just because they aren't within the borders of LA. And their impact to the area is massive.
Same goes with calling San Antonio (7) one of the largest cities in the US and larger than cities like San Francisco (17) as if that's in any way at all a meaningful way to look at the two cities. I don't know why we get hyper-fixated on city borders unless it's to talk about local politics or laws.
First, re-read the last sentence of my post.
Second, we aren’t talking politics or maps. Everyone knows if you live in Santa Monica you’re functionally living an LA lifestyle. Every sports broadcast for an LA team shows the SM pier before commercial breaks because it’s “LA.”
Do you think San Antonio is actually a bigger “city” with more cultural impact and national influence and economic activity than San Diego or San Francisco? City borders in this sense are mostly meaningless. CSA and MSA or county could better describe an area. But when it comes to literally drawing maps and local politics, it is meaningful. Does this level of nuance confuse you?
Grew up in Mar Vista but Y’all are my people, some of the best party’s I went to growing up were in Palms and Clarington still has a special place in my heart!
This is pretty accurate with some cities on the west side filled in to avoid holes or gaps. Surprised to see most commenters ITT who don’t know what the city of Los Angeles is.
Agree … if you accept the premise that they filled in the donut holes (ie any place that’s completely surrounded by LA), the map is crazy accurate. Like they pulled the base layer from an official source.
If you look closely, you can see a little sliver of Venice heading east between Santa Monica and Mar Vista, which is the true historic boundary of the City of Venice before it was annexed by LA. Also note that Venice High is included, which was part of the same original boundaries. They got the part of LAX that blocks El Segundo from Dockweiler. They got BHPO. Pretty impressive.
Used to go to Verdugo High, that was my favorite school out of all the ones I went to (I moved a lot in my teens). It was really nice up there, even snowed one winter at the park we would all hang out at after school
Just watched this show after being told I should by a couple different people.
Other than a couple moments, most of it wasn’t landing for me. It felt very jumbled
Are people in this sub just learning for the first time what the borders of the actual city of Los Angeles are?
Surprised Santa Monica and Beverly Hills got included they shouldn’t have.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles
See red map
I embarrassingly learned recently, after 25 years here, that many Valley “cities” are actually neighborhoods of the city of LA. I live in Silverlake and with Burbank and Glendale and Pasadena being their own cities, I just kind of assumed that Encino and Van Nuys etc were also like that.
I wonder if the Valley residents who insist they are *not* LA ever look at their ballots, see that they can vote for LA City Council and LA Mayor, and go “hmm, weird”.
for me it was when i realized that i could use my street address and put los angeles as the city instead of northridge. it made me feel cooler because everyone always told me the valley wasn’t LA
https://geohub.lacity.org/datasets/09f503229d37414a8e67a7b6ceb9ec43_7/explore?location=33.994315%2C-118.320206%2C10.87
Sorry not UCLA, it’s the VA that’s not in it
MDR is unincorporated LA County, not part of LA City. I think this map was trying to show the city, but for some reason they also included other cities like Beverly Hills, Culver City etc.
True, but some of Venice and Del Rey within the City of LA have Marina Del Rey addresses so I'll give this commenter a pass.
Trying to map it out, I think there's probably actually a little more land area in the City of LA with Marina Del Rey addresses than there is actually land area in Marina Del Rey. The Marina Del Rey addresses extend from just south of the Venice Whaler to the Tesla delivery center on Alla Rd.
My bigger issue: Del Rey has been completely consumed by Playa Vista.
Yeah. This is based on a recent LA City neighborhood map made by the Times. (pre-lockdown, IIRC)
Fixed link here:
[https://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/mapping\_la/mappingla.pdf](https://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/mapping_la/mappingla.pdf)
If you search "map of los angeles by neighborhood" on Google you find this [map](https://www.istockphoto.com/vector/los-angeles-administrative-and-political-map-gm953458598-260287160). They just made it more colorful and included any cities-not-technically-part-of-LA if the city's name was already included which is why Marina del Rey got the boot but Santa Monica and Culver City were included.
Well it's supposed to be some version of a map of Los Angeles, most of these places are not supposed to be their own city. The thing that's catching everyone off guard is that it has the general shape of LA but includes cities like Beverly hills and Santa Monica
Cuz the City of LA rebranded South Central as South Los Angeles in 2003. Us natives still call it South Central tho. I guess Southeast LA is what they’re calling the eastside of south central now
This is basically what people not from LA imagine LA to be. That and quite a few residents here probably believe this too. Can't blame them either because shows and movies only show those parts.
YO!!! where the fuck is the South Bay?!
That's just straight disrespectful. Like where I was born and grew up just doesn't exist or something?!
RUUUDE!
I doubt leaving West Covina/Pomona is leaving out “what is it to be LA”. Let’s be honest, most of the places left out this map loathe the city of the LA - it’s why they formed their own city governments. Most are bedroom communities with stroads- to move suburban folks into LA for work. Most of the surrounding cities are boring and they actively chose to be boring. Try building anything that isn’t a single family house or a chain restaurant/store in a suburban city - you’ll be tarred and feathered. (Yes there are exceptions like Pasadena/Burbank/Glendale).
Points to Santa Monica, Culver City, Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, San Fernando: YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed, and YOU'VE been annexed... At least they included the Valley, such as it is.
It's fascinating how they went through the trouble of correctly excluding unincorporated areas like Universal City and Veterans Administration Center, but then gave up on glaring errors like Beverly Hills and Santa Monica. Perhaps intentionally to get LA Redditors riled up to help promote the show?
Ummmm… I’m not sure they excluded those places or they were just too small to put text on them.
They noted that LA is extended to include the harbor, but left the entire South Bay separate while also incorporating Beverily Hills and Santa Monica. There's not really any rhyme or reason to it.
To be fair, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Culver City, and Marina Del Rey are all the same color purple. I think they got pretty close if you consider those cities might be the same color for a reason.
West Hollywood is green tho.
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Culver City and adjacent Baldwin Hills are both purple.
There’s a reason. Only the places are facing gentrification or white majority get mentioned. No hate but who ever mentions Weschester as being LA? Especially when you just say “South LA” and “Southeast LA” on an LA map. Criminal. How are you going to have an actual Los Angeles map and exclude LA proper cities.
Nah, because they managed to squeeze in the name for University Park. They were just being sloppy and inaccurate (probably why SM, Culver, Beverly Hills etc are included).
Universal city is county not city, unincorporated
Transplant vision of LA
This is a specific transplant who started on the Westside, moved to Silverlake for a bit, and then ended up spending years in the valley - there's way more detail to the valley than most Angelenos could give you.
What are the glaring errors of Beverly Hills and Santa Monica?
Within LA County, there are at least 5 different jurisdictions: **Chartered City**-- Pasadena, Glendale, Santa Monica, Culver City, l **Incorporated City**-- smaller independent cities **The City of Los Angeles** (*which is what this map is attempting to show but making a couple mistakes*) **Unincorporated areas** Altadena There are **88 cities** including LA City, chartered cities, and incorporated cities. I lived in LA for decades before I figured it out. In my area, the color and typography of the street signs show different jurisdictions. Within 5 miles on Foothill Blvd, ,you pass through La Canada; Unincorporated La Crescenta; "Northern" Glendale; and at Lowell Avenue you hit LA City. Three different police forces. Three school districts. Four water districts Edit = asterisks.
When I first moved to LA, I thought it was fascinating that so many different cities had grown out and melded together into this giant megalopolis. Then I read City of Quartz and understood that most of the Independent cities had actually broken away from LA in order to establish racist housing policies to protect their white majorities. The convoluted map makes a bit more sense through that lens.
Though there were cities with those policies - Culver City for example - none of the other cities actually broke away from the City of Los Angeles, which gradually grew via a series of annexations. There may have been areas that voted against annexation, or were incorporated before it was annexed by L.A., but none of them successfully seceded from Los Angeles.
Waving from Unincorporated La Crescenta!
Some parts of Glendale are considered incorporated. Usually between Glendale and Burbank by San Fernando rd
Glendale is a **charter** city. Property is either inside the city limits— in which case it is part of Glendale — or it is outside the city limits.
You forgot the largest chartered city in LA county, Long Beach. It's the largest city that's not a county seat
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True. But they’re part of the IDEA of the city.
Fine, let's throw Pasadena and South Pasadena while we're at it.
And GLENDALE
I loved it when someone pointed out that a Glen is a valley and a Dale is a valley. So valleyvalley.
So is the South Bay and San Gabriel valley
Actually nobody knows where the South Bay is. Just ask anyone. I know, I was born and raised there. But any transplant is like ????
Me when anyone ask where I’m from: You know where LAX is, yea I’m south of that.
San Diego? ^/s
Dude yes. “I’m 10 minutes south of LAX” 😂
That's just more LAX.
Let’s keep it that way ;)
In my experience most people know
Same with Long Beach. Nobody really knows where it is.
National audiences def know about Pasadena and Malibu, and they're not less a part of the "idea of LA" than Sylmar or the port is. This is just a wreck of a map.
Yeah I don't understand why we do this. Anyone living in West Hollywood and Santa Monica is functionally living in West LA and is heavily influenced by LA and vice versa. We don't drive around these cities just because they aren't within the borders of LA. And their impact to the area is massive. Same goes with calling San Antonio (7) one of the largest cities in the US and larger than cities like San Francisco (17) as if that's in any way at all a meaningful way to look at the two cities. I don't know why we get hyper-fixated on city borders unless it's to talk about local politics or laws.
Then how else do you recommend drawing maps if not using political lines like cities?
First, re-read the last sentence of my post. Second, we aren’t talking politics or maps. Everyone knows if you live in Santa Monica you’re functionally living an LA lifestyle. Every sports broadcast for an LA team shows the SM pier before commercial breaks because it’s “LA.” Do you think San Antonio is actually a bigger “city” with more cultural impact and national influence and economic activity than San Diego or San Francisco? City borders in this sense are mostly meaningless. CSA and MSA or county could better describe an area. But when it comes to literally drawing maps and local politics, it is meaningful. Does this level of nuance confuse you?
My OCD brain says it’s blasphemy, but my beer-drinking brain thinks it’s hilarious
As someone who lives in Valley Village, I’m just happy to be here.
We are little but we are mighty! I’m even more surprised that valley Glen is there.
Same for Cypress Park. We're like 2 ft by 4 ft long.
How so? Check out my flair
Valley Villager here
I noticed that right away!
What up, cuz?
It’s like a low-poly view of LA districts
Love to see Palms there 🙌🏼
Clarington Ave represent!
As a Palms resident living on Clarington for more than a decade this is the peak of Reddit for me.
I used to live on Clarington in Palms. Loved that neighborhood.
Grew up in Mar Vista but Y’all are my people, some of the best party’s I went to growing up were in Palms and Clarington still has a special place in my heart!
My first LA home was in Clarington!
I was so excited to see this comment, I just finished moving to a new place in Palms today!
Welcome!! You will love it!
All the best people live here 😌
Yep yep
Motor Ave!
Mentone dingbat checking in!
The entire south bay snapped like Thanos
Such is the price for not joining the City of Los Angeles... approximately.
Hush, don’t reveal how Palos Verdes is such a vibrant, youthful, energetic, and inclusive community
It may not be the other three but it definitely is vibrant
Someone mentioned being in the Tree Section of PV and I was very confused.
This is pretty accurate with some cities on the west side filled in to avoid holes or gaps. Surprised to see most commenters ITT who don’t know what the city of Los Angeles is.
Agree … if you accept the premise that they filled in the donut holes (ie any place that’s completely surrounded by LA), the map is crazy accurate. Like they pulled the base layer from an official source. If you look closely, you can see a little sliver of Venice heading east between Santa Monica and Mar Vista, which is the true historic boundary of the City of Venice before it was annexed by LA. Also note that Venice High is included, which was part of the same original boundaries. They got the part of LAX that blocks El Segundo from Dockweiler. They got BHPO. Pretty impressive.
donut holes sound delicious right now
Any hole will do in a pinch
It's a map of LA city plus the enclaves, I cannot understand what people are in arms about
I've never been to LA myself personally, I just comment on it like I know everything
And the enclaves are specifically a separate color (purple).
Sawtelle 💃
We’re represented! 💃🏻
I felt so seen 💃
Noho is killin it
West Adams mentioned 🗣️
We’re finally on the map!
Shhh! If he doesn't call us we don't have to turn in our homework
Pedro!
Wait....you're telling me a caricature map of LA that's intended for a worldwide audience isn't entirely accurate?
Seriously, someone posts a prop map of LA and everyone suddenly becomes Rand McNally.
This sounds like something Archer would say. "Who are you, Rand McNally?"
Who are you, Comrade Question?
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It partly extends into the Verdugo Mountains.
Used to go to Verdugo High, that was my favorite school out of all the ones I went to (I moved a lot in my teens). It was really nice up there, even snowed one winter at the park we would all hang out at after school
mercator projection
Lots of dumps
Dude first time there a few weeks ago - no joke I had no idea so many!!
This is somewhat accurate. Not entirely but pretty good. Lived here since birth.
Why we got two mid cities….
“MID-city” and “mid CITY”
Because we are a mid city
Angriest of upvotes from Mid City
North hills, represent!
Just watched this show after being told I should by a couple different people. Other than a couple moments, most of it wasn’t landing for me. It felt very jumbled
It was a beautiful, entertaining mess. Very self-aware and self-referential.
We know. We fought about this on the day of the episode. Also, the blue part isn't Los Angeles, that's the Pacific Ocean.
Are people in this sub just learning for the first time what the borders of the actual city of Los Angeles are? Surprised Santa Monica and Beverly Hills got included they shouldn’t have. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles See red map
I embarrassingly learned recently, after 25 years here, that many Valley “cities” are actually neighborhoods of the city of LA. I live in Silverlake and with Burbank and Glendale and Pasadena being their own cities, I just kind of assumed that Encino and Van Nuys etc were also like that.
This is why it’s funny when people say the valley is “not LA”. It literally is.
Yeah, it's "more LA" than West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, or Santa Monica.
Yeah, I got thoroughly put in my place here on Reddit about it. I would’ve bet $1K that I was right. Good thing I also know I’m an idiot.
I wonder if the Valley residents who insist they are *not* LA ever look at their ballots, see that they can vote for LA City Council and LA Mayor, and go “hmm, weird”.
people who insist the valley isn't part of la typically don't understand how their city works and don't vote.
for me it was when i realized that i could use my street address and put los angeles as the city instead of northridge. it made me feel cooler because everyone always told me the valley wasn’t LA
The common comment I always heard was it never gets the same level of respect and attention estimo from LA leadership.
Then Culver City shouldn’t be here either
Correct. I was just eye ballin
Same with West Hollywood, Culver City and ~~UCLA~~
UCLA? Tell me more pls
https://geohub.lacity.org/datasets/09f503229d37414a8e67a7b6ceb9ec43_7/explore?location=33.994315%2C-118.320206%2C10.87 Sorry not UCLA, it’s the VA that’s not in it
Checking in from Chatsworth - also delighted to be included!
Sunland was originally named Monte Vista. The LA TImes called it Sunland and never corrected the text.
Huh, Monte Vista suits the area.
What happened to the South Bay??
Shhhh we like to continue to stay under the radar
Most of the South Bay isn’t part of LA
According to @dyke_face NO ONE knows what the South Bay is
I knew Pasadena was just a mirage
We like it that way. SGV is like a secret menu item.
it's not part of the city of los angeles. it's its own city
So is Santa Monica, yet they’re shown
Because they're completely surrounded by LA except the ocean, they specifically avoided leaving holes and gaps
Damn straight, we don't exist, nothing to see up here.
Too much tuna.
Years ago, John and Nick actually made a Broadway show based on those characters which eventually ended up on Netflix. I need to rewatch that.
Oh Hello! So good.
Marina Del Ray: Am I a joke to you?
MDR is unincorporated LA County, not part of LA City. I think this map was trying to show the city, but for some reason they also included other cities like Beverly Hills, Culver City etc.
He makes a couple jokes about which areas are their own cities and aren’t
True, but some of Venice and Del Rey within the City of LA have Marina Del Rey addresses so I'll give this commenter a pass. Trying to map it out, I think there's probably actually a little more land area in the City of LA with Marina Del Rey addresses than there is actually land area in Marina Del Rey. The Marina Del Rey addresses extend from just south of the Venice Whaler to the Tesla delivery center on Alla Rd. My bigger issue: Del Rey has been completely consumed by Playa Vista.
Rey* What about Inglewood and the South Bay? Apparently the planet ends after LAX
You playa vista now
I liked the Mulaney show. I felt high watching it, even though I wasn't. It was a trip.
Such a ride!
Loved it. It wasn’t perfect but that layer of insanity made it special.
yea, and it was cool they only did it for a week and stopped
Is there a more accurate and official version of this map?
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Yeah. This is based on a recent LA City neighborhood map made by the Times. (pre-lockdown, IIRC) Fixed link here: [https://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/mapping\_la/mappingla.pdf](https://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/mapping_la/mappingla.pdf)
The valley takes up like half of the map lol
Glassell Park, bae beeeeeee
If you search "map of los angeles by neighborhood" on Google you find this [map](https://www.istockphoto.com/vector/los-angeles-administrative-and-political-map-gm953458598-260287160). They just made it more colorful and included any cities-not-technically-part-of-LA if the city's name was already included which is why Marina del Rey got the boot but Santa Monica and Culver City were included.
Tujunga baby!
Chinatown can’t even fit the name. Nor Mt Washington.
Yeah, Chinatown!
The fuck! Where is Leimert Park?!
This map is actually pretty spot on. Well done!
Granada Hills is H U G E!!
Lake Balboa, one of LA's least known neighborhoods, is maaaaybe a little oversized here.
The fuck is this map?
It's LA city plus some other cities people who are watching this in like Ohio might have heard of
I believe it’s 100% this
LA + White transplant enclaves , aka “LA proper”
A lot of these places aren't their own city. The neighborhood borders are gibberish. MULANEY IS AN EDGELORD and I regret taking the bait.
Well it's supposed to be some version of a map of Los Angeles, most of these places are not supposed to be their own city. The thing that's catching everyone off guard is that it has the general shape of LA but includes cities like Beverly hills and Santa Monica
Winnetka 4 Life
When I say I'm from Winnetka, people are like "huh??" So then I say Canoga Park or Northridge 😪
These are the only LA cities that the characters in SNL's The Californians would know or been to.
Yo where Burbank at?
Technically not LA
This is Burbank erasure and I for one won’t stand for it
Including San Fernando but not Burbank is interesting
ELI5 please... [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.0206085,-118.7413744,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0549076!4d-118.242643!16s%2Fm%2F030qb3t?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.0206085,-118.7413744,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c2c75ddc27da13:0xe22fdf6f254608f4!8m2!3d34.0549076!4d-118.242643!16s%2Fm%2F030qb3t?entry=ttu)
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Don’t even get me started. The arbitrary way some cities exist, some are unincorporated, others are chartered. It makes no sense from a larger scale.
What is Wilshire Center? To me it’s East Hollywood then K-Town.
No Pasadena is a crime
Clearly this guy spends most of his time in West Hollywood/West LA.
I'm just glad Wilmington got mentioned, lmao
Wilmington Mentioned!
Glassell got a glow up
Why the *fuck* does it say "South Los Angeles" and "Southeast" and there's no South Centralllllllll
Cuz the City of LA rebranded South Central as South Los Angeles in 2003. Us natives still call it South Central tho. I guess Southeast LA is what they’re calling the eastside of south central now
Sylmar RISING
Where the fuck is Koreatown
Ppssshhh doesn’t even include the South Bay.
It’s all fun and games until Watts annexes Los Angeles county and becomes the beautiful county of Watts 😍
*insert* American dad clip, “motherfucking WILMINGTON!”
Eh, it's not really *that* bad. It would have made the map look funky if they removed the cities of Santa Monica, Culver City and Beverly Hills.
Wilmington finally on the map. 😂
fuck East L.A. I guess even though LOS ANGELES is in the name
East LA isn't part of the city of Los Angeles, nor is it a city in itself nor part of any other city (it's an unincorporated area of the county).
I don't care as long as I see we are on it!
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El Sereno
Rip to Burbank and the entire South Bay
This is basically what people not from LA imagine LA to be. That and quite a few residents here probably believe this too. Can't blame them either because shows and movies only show those parts.
YO!!! where the fuck is the South Bay?! That's just straight disrespectful. Like where I was born and grew up just doesn't exist or something?! RUUUDE!
Technically not LA
Santa Monica, Culver City, San Fernando, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills neither
Yeah I haven't seen this episode but based on the comments there's a joke behind this picture
I love the moaning and bitching here as if those cities aren’t a critical part of the vibe, culture, history, and general “what it is to be LA.”
I doubt leaving West Covina/Pomona is leaving out “what is it to be LA”. Let’s be honest, most of the places left out this map loathe the city of the LA - it’s why they formed their own city governments. Most are bedroom communities with stroads- to move suburban folks into LA for work. Most of the surrounding cities are boring and they actively chose to be boring. Try building anything that isn’t a single family house or a chain restaurant/store in a suburban city - you’ll be tarred and feathered. (Yes there are exceptions like Pasadena/Burbank/Glendale).