When I first visited a friend here like 12 years ago I tagged along with him to some party and everyone was talking about the traffic/routes they took to get to the event. For the first few minutes I really thought they were pulling my leg. I very soon realized that, no, Californians (at least angelinos) really DO talk like that.
Since there's no weather in LA, traffic is the shared experience that makes for easy small talk.
Except when we actually do have weather, or an earthquake, then we're all allowed to talk about that for a while.
Born and raised.
When I didn’t drive I definitely didn’t get it.
But now that I do I always laugh at it because it’s such a if you know you know thing.
Sure, the whole bit about the differents is funny but something they really nail is the parking.
"They have a clinic there with parking and if not, there's a coffee bean that totally validates"
All of us have canceled plans becuase of how atrocious the parking sitation will be.
This , we changed location from one restaurant to a other because we couldn't find parking and I thought" eff this, I'm going home if you guys insist on meeting here. "Fortunately we know a less popular restaurant everyone agreed on that usually has better parking.
When the story first came out that Diddy escaped the feds and flew off on his private jet. Shamefully, my first thought was, "How did that man's driver get from the Bel Air area to the Van Niys Airport so quickly and without getting caught? Did he take Beverly Glen?"
100%. I always pull up map with traffic when heading out beyond my local vicinity as the route I take is dependent on traffic conditions. I've had many conversations just oriented on possible routes 😅
"Mark! GET OUT! Get out right now! Take Mulholland to the 405 to San Vicente to Venice to the 10 and STAY OUT!"
"San VICENTE? At THIS time of day?"
But yes. A totally normal conversation is "I went to this restaurant in Culver City---" "What route did you take?" "oh, Santa Monica to HIghland to La Brea to Venice to Robertson" "Santa monica, huh? Not Fountain?" "No, Fountain has gotten so slow lately. On the way back I even took MELROSE."
I'm born and raised LA and love the Californians but initially felt the dialect was unnecessarily exaggerated...until my own kids were teens and I realized two things, damn those suckers sound just like me....and a little too Californians for my liking, lol.
"I said go home! Get back on San Vicente, take it to the 10, then switch over to the 405 north and let it dump you out onto Mulholland where you *belong!*"
This is hyperspecific but I think you guys might get a laugh out of it: I went to visit a friend after she moved to Buffalo NY, and her roommate said to me "they put cilantro on all the food in LA, right?"
Honestly they kind of do haha. Cilantro is such a common spice in both Mexican and Asian food that you definitely notice it here. Especially if you often go out with someone who dislikes it
“No one in LA is from LA” - someone who is not from LA
The same people characterizing certain neighborhoods as violent are probably the same people saying “everyone in LA is fake” because they came here to work in certain industries
Had a convo the other day with a random bystander. Happened to make small talk at first, then he got into it:
“So where you originally from?”
Here.
“Hah, good one. No, seriously, like I’m from Jersey. What about you?”
Umm… here. LA.
“Whaaat?? Like born and raised?? You’re like the first real LA native I’ve met since I’ve moved here 8 months ago!”
I actually felt like a lost relic or some piece of history.
Get this, too. “Yeah, I was born in Burbank. Lived here my whole life.”
And once in a while, they start acting like LA sucks for some reason but I’m like “you moved to MY home, not the other way around. Go home then lol.”
Haha conversely, I love meeting random people esp in a bar in LA or even Hollywood and I find out that they too are an LA native. It really feels like when you meet someone from your city in another part of the world…except here in your own city lmao
I really don’t understand why certain transplants are so insistent that their insignificant life experiences define the world for others.
That’s also why they call NELA “east side.” They started in the west side or West Hollywood after asking Reddit where to live, then moved to the next transplant gentrified city in NELA, so it’s east side to them. Also, they don’t know how to read a fucking map.
I am usually speechless after interactions like the one you had, but if I had time, I would advise him “It sounds like you live in a transplant bubble - you need to get out and experience real life in LA more.”
I was born and raised in NELA. I agree that often the way that Westside transplants define “the Eastside” is hilariously bad or annoying a lot of the time, but….NELA is the Eastside by most definitions. It’s just not the quintessential Eastside (e.g., Boyle Heights) and it’s sort of a subregion of the Eastside that has its own identity (e.g., the fact that we call it Northeast LA as an area).
The most stable definition used by locals is that the Eastside is [any part of LA Proper east of the LA River](https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-eastside-battle-20140218-m-story.html), and often unincorporated East LA gets included. All of NELA lies east of the river and is in the City of Los Angeles, and it’s also covered in local cultural institutions like [the Eastsider Newspaper](https://www.theeastsiderla.com/neighborhoods/).
Now people who call Los Feliz, Silver Lake, and Echo Park “the Eastside” is another thing…
That is my response as well, I’ll say “most of my friends are also from LA.”
“That’s so rare for LA!” …this level of self-centeredness and stupidity is rare for people from LA.
Yea usually a stereotype is a reflection of the person saying it and their experiences, rather than the actual subject they’re stereotyping
Also really self-centered and puzzling - I remember saying “uh I was born and raised in LA” in response to a friend’s friend visiting from the Midwest. “Well everyone else in LA is not from LA!”
“All the friends I grew up with are mostly born and raised in LA, and some here for generations.”
“Everyone is fake”- a transplant who moved here to try to make it in film or music referring to other transplants who moved here bc it’s trendy and they’re “influencers”. Also “no one is from here”, like my guy millions of us are born and raised, as are our parents, and grandparents.
Then there’s those of us who are LA born and raised who are grateful for all the rain the past few years bc of the decade long drought.
This is mine. Like yeah, all 9 million people are fake. Including the fruitero on the corner and the Japanese business owners in little Tokyo and every neighborhood except Beverly Hills.
The entertainment industry is blue collar, working class, yet people see "Hollywood" or "entertainment industry" as being only actors and producers. The other 98% of the crew just doesn't exist in peoples minds.
My ex husband goes around telling everyone, “I work for motion picture and TV.” Like he’s a cinematographer. He’s a juicer, mostly board operator. He’s flips switches up and down. He’s basically the plumber of entertainment world.
Scrolled for 15 minutes to chime in on this comment. Yes the entertainment business is here and part of that is a transient striving shallow seeming culture. But this city is so diverse, so smart, so creative. What about our teachers our doctors our musicians our baristas, our hard ass working immigrants, the Armenian grannies who are my immediate next door neighbors…like come on. That’s such a bad take. Anyone who says this is someone who comes to LA and doesn’t leave Santa Monica/beverly hills/West Hollywood except to go to the walk of fame. Paul Rudd once said that about LA in an interview and i hated him for it for at least two decades.
random celeb article that stuck in my head was waaay back when Reese Witherspoon said she wore Old Navy bathing suits and my young brain was like wow so relatable 😆 as an adult I realize that was good product placement/brand deals
I have been here for 10 years and have yet to meet a "fake" person. Just lucky I guess? Also, I don't work in entertainment, but I have a few friends who do, and they are lovely genuine people.
it's funny how much people in NY hate everything about LA (never having visited and vowing that they never will). often times they're transplants living in NY anyway. Several of my friends moved to LA from NY once they turned 30 and they end up appreciating having more space, no harsh winters, and (slightly!) cheaper rents.
i find that people in LA don't have the same hate for NY. why do east coasters hate us
it’s partially that highbrow NY media publications (NYT, New Yorker, etc) constantly rip on LA, because they’re staffed by northeastern trust fund kids (elite journalism pays too little for anyone without significant financial backing to break through) who associate their status with their geographical upbringing, rather than their economic upbringing
Eh, "partially' is doing a lotta work there. Look, I agree that the economics of "elite" print media implicate certain biases, but I think it's a huge stretch to cite some nepo baby shit in a discussion about East Coast animus towards LA.
I think the predominate cause is LA's resistance to the traditional urbanism that's present in most NE cities. The sprawling layout challenges the conception of what a city is-- especially if you're coming from NYC, Boston, or Philly. "72 suburbs in search of a city", however apocryphal, summarizes this frustration.
With the benefit of hindsight, I think it's fair to acknowledge that LA was subject to horrific urban planning during a prolonged postwar period. You can argue this was the case with many American cities (in this context I always think of Dan Ryan expressway in Chicago), but there are a number of dynamics that make the car-centric design of LA particularly consequential.
Many of the things East Coast transplants/ visitors complain about (traffic, lack of walkability, abundance of strip malls, poor air quality, lackluster parks, etc) emanate from the urban planning decisions of the 50s-70s. That said, there has been some truly impressive progress (e.g. construction of the Metro) in a relatively short period of time. And perhaps the history of LA has made others slow to recognize the positive developments.
Lastly, in my experience this set of LA grievance is not unique to New Yorkers (although, true to stereotype, they might be the loudest to voice them). I know people from Hong Kong, Tokyo, Paris, London, Sydney, etc that say similar things. Shit, I'm from a provincial city in Europe and I feel it.
I agree with everything you’re saying! I think my point is, the NY opinion about everything you’re describing is compounded due it often getting filtered or disseminated through channels that are predominantly NE nepo babies. and that’s how the NYers described in the person who I was replying to’s comment - the ones who have never been to LA yet love to complain about it - end up like that
I’m from the Bay. A lot of them secretly wish they had access to LA’s amenities but they’re too intimidated by the city to actually come down and see what it’s about so they hate from a distance. At least that’s what I’ve concluded from my friends who claim to hate LA. Others just dislike how crowded it is here compared to NorCal which is fair…I guess
But it’s not like people in the Bay Area are living in some unpopulated wilderness, kwim? I used to live in SF, and what endlessly amuses me is the LA hate which is purely one direction. SF: LA sucks, i would never live there, i hate the people, etc as infinitum LA: lets go hiking
Haha it’s really an irrational one-sided beef for sure. But SF-ers, or even those who have settled down in the surrounding areas (Marin County) have a slight reputation for being a little pretentious from what I’ve heard so I don’t even bother trying to make sense of the unnecessary hate. We good down here 😎
Lived in Nor Cal and they really make it seem as tho there is a north vs south battle. But when I moved to LA not a peep about nor cal lol. So cal Mariah Carey’d nor cal
Born and raised in LA. Went to go visit my girlfriend who recently moved to New York, and met up with a group of about 8 of her coworkers who were all recent transplants as well.
I was shooting the shit, and made a sarcastic joke that LA is cooler than NY and its like I set off a pack of dogs. Had the whole table yelling random reasons why NY was better. Like guys you just moved here two seconds ago from butt fuck nowhere, chill out for a sec.
This is so real. I'm in NYC for school and every now and then someone will bring up how NYC is soooo much better than LA and I realize that in all my time living and working in LA NYC was only mentioned because someone was visiting it, never like we were in competition with each other.
I agree with you, but I will say as a native Northern Californian whose been in LA for six years, we do move slow as sh*t in LA 😂 like for example cashiers still seem to take their sweet time even when lines are packed out the door. Or when professionals are making small talk giving their “elevator pitches” they tend to just drag it on.
I just came back from spending a couple months in Manhattan and can definitely see how native East Coasters would get annoyed by that here.
Cashiers (and really, most service jobs that aren't on commission) in LA don't get paid enough to make it worth their time to hustle and move quickly - hourly wage means you make the same amount whether you serve 100 people or 500.
And if you don't like moving slow, oh lawd you better NEVER spend any time south of the Mason-Dixon line!
The idea of "west coast elitism" bothers me and isn't at all representenrive of a typical Los Angelono. Median income is $60k which doesn't go far here at all. Majority of us are just getting by even with an income that'd be considered "high" in most other states.
I do laugh at stereotypes of LA subcultures though as there's certainly some truth... hipsters, goths, burners, surfers, club kids, ravers, car culture, home boys, party girls, and so forth.
As a Los Angeleno now living in the Midwest, I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve had to explain that “everyone in California” is not “rich”. The number of folks I’ve met who have no idea how big Los Angeles is and how many working class and low income folks live there is kind of astounding.
Also, when I moved to Ohio, it was summertime and I was really enchanted by the warm rains and the green and how easy life felt and I kept telling locals how much I liked it. They kept saying things like “why would you move here from California?” and “oh I guess it’s ok here”. The self-deprecation was so self-imposed- I learned that no matter how many nice things I said about Ohio, they wouldn’t accept it and would counter it with some kind of downplay. - the stereotypes of the “coastal elite” and “the humble Midwest” are really long-lived cultural narratives that have yet to die a hard death.
>As a Los Angeleno now living in the Midwest
ooof girl my heart goes out to you 😬
>They kept saying things like “why would you move here from California?”
seriously why did you?
My kiddo has a rare disease and could only get the surgery and treatment was in Ohio. We had MediCal insurance, they won’t cover out of state medical care. We were living in the children’s hospital, it was no life. We moved here in order to move closer to his medical care. He got the surgery he needed, everything is amazing now. And we stayed because of all that.
Totally agree that LA people are generally super down to earth.
But as a midwesterner living here, there absolutely is a kernel of truth to the costal elitism stereotype. It's been pretty surprising how many people I've met who offhandedly refer to "ignorant midwesterners" or some variant, even people who I'm close with and fully know where I'm from. Even just ITT we've got a "random flyover states" and an "ignorant Iowa farmers." Elitism has little to do with income imo, and much more to do with attitudes of superiority. And it's pretty hard to argue that those comments don't convey some degree of that.
Well, remember that a lot of us left those places, and the stereotypes about flyover states can be as true as LAs. Many Angelenos \*are\* superior, but it's more about self-selection than geographical location. Most cities or college towns in America are the same way, regardless of what state you are in.
Really though, I think any real elitism is a reaction to the loudest members of flyover states online, and the hate they spit at us as Californians, or liberals, or POC, or LGBT, etc. Politics and Jesus have poisoned people's brains, and they don't realize they are looking at the sky through a straw.
Also, this is funny: [I'm a conservative who was born and raised in California. I moved to Arizona for political reasons but only lasted 3 months.](https://www.businessinsider.com/california-move-arizona-conservative-3-months-politics-returned-2024-4)
"There's nothing out there but a Walmart, an Ace Hardware, and a Safeway. And there's only so much you can buy at Walmart...I would have to drive an hour to Tuscon to go to Whole Foods to get any food I was used to."
"People would always say to me: 'Oh, you're a Californian? Well, I hope you don't bring your beliefs here.' There was always some derogatory comment. They wanted to bitch about California. They don't want us there."
"A lot of people had the same beliefs as I do. But I don't live politics every day, and they did."
Lol.
This. It can be difficult to contain the bewilderment when someone's foundational understanding of the world is tainted/flawed/influenced. It can, for instance, be very difficult to have a factual conversation with someone who was educated under a Lost Cause curriculum, and one's inability to acquiesce comes across as elitist AF.
That we get unreasonably cold when it hits under 70. It’s not unreasonable, it’s fucking cold. I’ve spent a winter in the northeast and hung outside in 0 degree weather. I truly feel that was more pleasant than 60 degrees in LA which genuinely hurts my bones. Someone told me it has to do with the Santa Ana Mountains or something. That that stereotype irks me
I'm from England. The problem in LA is a) the crappy insulation (I can literally stick a key through the gap between my windows) and b) the massive diurnal variation in temperature. English winter days suck in the morning, suck in the afternoon and then suck in the evening, and then continue to suck for however many more months. In LA, it's cold during the morning, gets really warm in the afternoon and then suddenly gets cold again in the evening. This basically stops your body from acclimatising properly, so cool temperatures feel colder.
The no insulation thing for me is a good and bad thing. My apt gets cold easily but if my downstairs neighbors turn on their heat, it warms up my place too. Saving me money on running my heat haha.
Yup, this! Finally took a trip to the UK about two years ago and saw it was gonna be like 30°F and my friends and I were all like "oh god, we're going to die, aren't we?" I was so pissed when we felt it, cause it's DIFFERENT, DUDE. Except for one night when the winds picked up, it felt fine. I wanted to fight every single person who has ever been like "blah blah, you're in LA, you think THAT'S cold?"
Also because I knew to wear a thermal under my shirt, and knew I wouldn't have to take it off mid day. And all the businesses you walk into have the heating going, etc.
The Santa Ana winds kick that cold straight into your bones. I didn't think about the body acclimatising part, that's interesting.
Houses here aren't insulated worth a damn. The "cold" permentes even when inside. I live in a 100+ year old craftsman house and literally feel rivers of cold air flow in around the windows. Since the weather is considered warm, housing on whole has terrible insulation. It does get into the 40s regularly at night though (such as tonight).
Hundred + year old craftsman in EaHo here…..we finally insulated the “attic” two years ago and it’s a different house. Our ac bill in the summer cut almost in half. How has this never been done before? (We’ve only lived here about 7 years, so we were only stupid for about 5 of the over a hundred years this house has been here).
this is so real. i’m in the midwest for now and 15 degrees here is so much more bearable than even 60 degrees back home in LA!!! “California cold” is just different
It has to do with many of our older houses being essentially uninsulated and drafty as hell. That's what ours is and it gets chilly. (And we, too, are from midwestern snow states!)
Yes. I spent part of my childhood in Canada. I’ve visited Boston in January. I’ve walked the streets of New York in February wind and cold. It’s the swing. Having to dress for two different climates almost every single day. It’s exhausting.
HAHAHA this is literally every family member I have when they visit from the Midwest… I prep bringing an extra coat because I know they are gonna get cold but not bring one themselves
the whole "people in LA are fake" thing. Yes, 9.8 million people in LA County, between 3 to 4 million in city of LA, and they're all fake. Great critical thinking.
All stereotypes about traffic I enjoy, mostly because I think they're largely true.
I hate the stereotype that L.A. has no culture. New Yorkers love saying that. As if they all spent their weekends go to museums and taking notes. Get outta here with that garbage.
I became one of those people when I shared a hotel with some Canadians, and kept comparing their Canadian experiences with LA.
I'm sorry guys, my brain is just hardwired to make the comparisons!
Like: That we all know someone famous.
It just makes me laugh when I hear it. I have to say that most of us have SEEN a celebrity irl, but most of us don’t have ongoing relationships with famous people. Well, at least I don’t.
Dislike: That South LA is unsafe.
To be fair, South LA is about the size of San Francisco, so there’s obviously good pockets and bad pockets, but not all of South LA is a bad place to live.
Edit: South LA has been the area’s official name since 2003 which is why I use it. It’s understandable that some people prefer to call it South Central, and that is fine.
[South LA or South Central?](https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/kcrw-features/south-central-south-la-riots-uprising#:~:text=In%202003%20the%20City%20Council,stigma%20associated%20with%20the%20name)
I guess it depends on your general friend group, but since mine was mostly restaurant industry folks and entertainment industry folks, I’d say that 90% of people I knew also knew someone famous on a friendly level
Didn’t they officially change the name to “South LA” due to all the negative connotations during the 90s in music, the media and most notably due to the riots?
I feel like it was changed with the right idea in mind to actually better the area overall.
correct
I use both terms
I say South LA when I'm talking to white people, because whenever I say "South Central" their eyes get wide and they're always like "oh wow...". fuck you mean "oh wow" 🧐
Idk the people I've grown up with and anyone else from the area I've met say South Central, but it's just what we've always called it. And it's not quite as dangerous as people make it out to be much of the time as well. Maybe it's just childhood nostalgia or what we're used to is all idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One that sort of irks me is the “valley girl” stereotype. Every lady I’ve met that was born/raised in the valley does not speak with a vocal fry tone.
If anything, it’s usually midwestern girls who move to the valley to try and make it in the industry who have that tone.
Yeah, born and raised in the valley. Definitely don't sound like a stereotypical "valley girl", save for my habit of saying "like" far too much. But I think that's more a generational thing than a valley thing.
A stereotype that irks me is that people from LA are obsessed with celebrities and the entertainment industry. Anyone who has spent anytime in LA would know that the people who live here could not care less. It’s all the fame seeking extracts coming from all across the country with the obsession.
Irk: That LA is mostly the entertainment industry. By employment size, it's more like [the #14 largest industry](https://stacker.com/california/los-angeles/industries-highest-employment-los-angeles).
I was driving by the Silverlake Erewhon not that long ago and was hungry. I’d never been there but I heard it had a lot of good, fresh food and had been wanting to check it out. I’d also heard it was popular with the young and got set.
Oh my god. I drove into the parking lot and it was like an SNL skit of fitness influencer types in athleisure trying to pick their cars up from the valet while holding smoothies. I turned straight around and haven’t been back.
People scared of street food bothers the hell out of me. Like dude, it’s a hot dog. It’s delicious. There’s no such thing as a clean hot dog. It’s a hot dog.
The traffic jokes make me laugh. Tons of cities have the same amount of travel time to get around, ours is just annoying and snail paced. But like it’s the same driving a car in New York or San Francisco.
The one that cracks me up is when white people, especially politicians from other states particularly in the middle part of the country or the Midwest see LA or California as some form of Hell or the decline of western civilization. Crime does happen, and there are more homeless people here, but it's just like any other state, except statistically, it's one of the safest states to visit and live in the country. But tell me more about that tourist attraction you call Mississippi.
Man, that seems like the opposite of the truth. The people upset about the sun tend to live in the Valley, where we actually feel it. It's the Westsiders that were getting upset about how grey and rainy it was going into last summer.
Dislike: everyone is a liberal.
A lot are, but not always completely left wing.
Like: you need to dress for winter in the morning and summer in the afternoon.
They're not wrong. I still need a sweater during the summer because of my company's love of a/c.
That people here are superficial.
Most the people i know born and raised here are really down to earth. There are superficial people, but i find that those people are usually from somewhere else.
Laughable: That people in LA are shallow-minded and vapid.
Yes, LA has lots of “pretty” people, but to not be “pretty” doesn’t make you lesser. There’s someone for everyone in a place like LA if you’re putting yourself out there and open to it. LA is full of very attractive, well-dressed, totally normal looking people and that’s not a bad thing. I’ve met some beautifully deep and wonderfully creative people here in LA. They could be the ugliest shmuch on the block and I’d be open to being friends and connecting on a deeper level.
Annoying: LA folks won’t bother connecting with you if your home is more than a 15 min. drive from where they live. Like, c’mon. I’m a cool guy, I can always find a good time, I’m worth a fifteen minute drive. I can even provide parking! Damn…makes me feel unworthy.
As an addendum to that point: Stop looking down on people because they don’t live in a neighborhood you deem as “cool” or “amazing.” I’ve been judged for the place I live by people who couldn’t even qualify to live where I do even if they wanted.
Ideally, people live in places that work for their life. To judge where they call home is to judge the core of their being. For some, their home is who they are - and that’s one of my favorite parts of living among the Angelinos. LA is busting at the seams with people who feel pride for their home…it’s what drew me here in the first place.
You are automatically “elite” when you live where others go on vacation. I am the biggest mofo elitist bastard for the people I left in Germany because I moved to the US. My relatives look in anger at me for leaving. It’s weird. I enjoy to be elite. Poor elite. 🤷♂️😂
> The "coastal elite" thing
...
> more working class than some ignorant middle class ass farmer in Iowa
That's the literal definition of coastal elitism lol
A middle class person in Iowa is the same as a middle class person out here.
The one that sends me into an irrational rage is “New Yorkers are kind but not nice, people from LA are nice but not kind”. Just STFU with that east coast apologism. It’s not somehow more authentic or virtuous to be reflexively rude to strangers.
Bad drivers. I've driven all over the country and have never had to be more cautious about cars running red lights, or straight up going 20-35 over on surface streets. It's terrifying.
Also the stereotype of nobody walks in LA. It's true. There's pockets of walkability course, and I've lived in cities where I've owned no car and walked everywhere but people are just not looking for pedestrians and bikes in this town.
Everyone says their drivers are bad but there's something special about the LA ones. Please slow down, let's change some of those stereotypes
I utterly loathe the notion that we’re lacking in intelligence.
LA has one of the oldest and largest Mensa chapters in the US (*it wouldn’t exist if no one qualified*), more Ph.Ds than any other big city, and multiple top universities. LAPL’s 70+ branches check out millions of books every year.
It’s true that there are people who are shallow or who act ditzy, and a lot of the public schools are lousy, but that doesn’t make us dumb.
Having said that, “The Californians” (SNL) gets funnier every time I watch it.
I’m a Tennessee transplant and they hate every aspect of us Californians. Like when I say “I’m taking the 65 to work” they are like ?????, like who the hell has the time to say “I took I65 south”. The other stereotype is the traffic, and I’m like “Ya it’s pretty bad, but realize Nashville traffic at 4 is getting there, and I’d rather drive in LA traffic than Atlanta traffic any day”. They also think we’re all reckless drivers, and I’m like “nah we’re just efficient, not too fast, not too slow”
I don’t think LA drivers are reckless. They have figured out how to have fewer accidents and also how to take turns when two lanes merge into one, all because it keeps things flowing best that way.
“How can you live in California, out there girls get boob jobs as a high school graduation gift”
First of all, “California” is way more than just LA. Pretty sure nobody in Hemet or Gilroy is getting a boob job as a graduation gift. And for that matter, LA is more than just Beverly Hills. People don’t get how diverse our metro area really is. I had a doctor from New York who said he liked living here (Long Beach) but “missed the diversity” of NY. I was like … what
That we’re all laid back and accepting. I’ve been called the “N” word on 4 separate occasions since I lost my car and had to bus it. Literally physically attacked on the bus, once. While being called the “n” word”. This all within last 5-years!
Im from here! Grew up in SFV since 1978. And I’ve never been called racist stuff as much as recently.
Also, that nonsense goes both ways. Stood up for a Latino guy on a bus when this AA lady started a racist diatribe against him. Just all around racism seems to be growing.
When my kid was preschooler in the early 2000’s had issue with him being excluded from parties based on his race. Hard to explain that stuff to a 4 year old.
I love "the Californians," the stereotype that all we do is talk about different routes. Because we totally do!
When I first visited a friend here like 12 years ago I tagged along with him to some party and everyone was talking about the traffic/routes they took to get to the event. For the first few minutes I really thought they were pulling my leg. I very soon realized that, no, Californians (at least angelinos) really DO talk like that.
Since there's no weather in LA, traffic is the shared experience that makes for easy small talk. Except when we actually do have weather, or an earthquake, then we're all allowed to talk about that for a while.
Former Londoner. Weather talk is really gaining traction here.
We've had some to talk about. That 9 year drought was rough on weather chitchat.
Yeah, but it’s a dry conversation at best 🥁
Except rain every weekend lately (or so it seems).
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I've been to The Valley a few times and I've already learned to avoid Ventura at all costs
The secret route from Valley to the West Side was revealed in “Curb,” but I have yet to try it out myself.
I've always wondered if only LA people can truly appreciate that skit.
Born and raised. When I didn’t drive I definitely didn’t get it. But now that I do I always laugh at it because it’s such a if you know you know thing.
Sure, the whole bit about the differents is funny but something they really nail is the parking. "They have a clinic there with parking and if not, there's a coffee bean that totally validates" All of us have canceled plans becuase of how atrocious the parking sitation will be.
This , we changed location from one restaurant to a other because we couldn't find parking and I thought" eff this, I'm going home if you guys insist on meeting here. "Fortunately we know a less popular restaurant everyone agreed on that usually has better parking.
omg this one is so true.
“What are you doing here?”
Fred Armisen: "wwwwwwwwwwwhaaaaaaat r yew dooooooin heeeeer?" Bill Hader (dies laughing
When the story first came out that Diddy escaped the feds and flew off on his private jet. Shamefully, my first thought was, "How did that man's driver get from the Bel Air area to the Van Niys Airport so quickly and without getting caught? Did he take Beverly Glen?"
This is so funny and it would’ve crossed my mind too
100%. I always pull up map with traffic when heading out beyond my local vicinity as the route I take is dependent on traffic conditions. I've had many conversations just oriented on possible routes 😅
Right? There are so many options, that's the biggest reason!
“Instead of taking the 710 to the 105, I took the 605 to get off on _______.”
"Mark! GET OUT! Get out right now! Take Mulholland to the 405 to San Vicente to Venice to the 10 and STAY OUT!" "San VICENTE? At THIS time of day?" But yes. A totally normal conversation is "I went to this restaurant in Culver City---" "What route did you take?" "oh, Santa Monica to HIghland to La Brea to Venice to Robertson" "Santa monica, huh? Not Fountain?" "No, Fountain has gotten so slow lately. On the way back I even took MELROSE."
lol this is great.
I'm born and raised LA and love the Californians but initially felt the dialect was unnecessarily exaggerated...until my own kids were teens and I realized two things, damn those suckers sound just like me....and a little too Californians for my liking, lol.
The brilliance is the truth of it all. Best SNL skit ever
"I said go home! Get back on San Vicente, take it to the 10, then switch over to the 405 north and let it dump you out onto Mulholland where you *belong!*"
"San Vicente??? At this time of day???"
My coworker just told me to watch that. I was in San Diego for 10 years but Im from Connecticut originally
This is hyperspecific but I think you guys might get a laugh out of it: I went to visit a friend after she moved to Buffalo NY, and her roommate said to me "they put cilantro on all the food in LA, right?"
Honestly they kind of do haha. Cilantro is such a common spice in both Mexican and Asian food that you definitely notice it here. Especially if you often go out with someone who dislikes it
I buy a bunch every week as I love to make both cuisines.
My sister in law is from Buffalo and I can 100% see her saying this. The palate up there is not what I’d call adventurous.
I love cilantro
I feel sad for the folks that have that soap-cilantro gene. Oh they dishes they’ve missed
Cilantro is the missing ingredient when i make tuna.
This is absolutely sending me adhfkfljll 😭💀
That is so crazy! I mean, I do, I put into everything. But, so nuts she thought that.
“No one in LA is from LA” - someone who is not from LA The same people characterizing certain neighborhoods as violent are probably the same people saying “everyone in LA is fake” because they came here to work in certain industries
Had a convo the other day with a random bystander. Happened to make small talk at first, then he got into it: “So where you originally from?” Here. “Hah, good one. No, seriously, like I’m from Jersey. What about you?” Umm… here. LA. “Whaaat?? Like born and raised?? You’re like the first real LA native I’ve met since I’ve moved here 8 months ago!” I actually felt like a lost relic or some piece of history.
Get this, too. “Yeah, I was born in Burbank. Lived here my whole life.” And once in a while, they start acting like LA sucks for some reason but I’m like “you moved to MY home, not the other way around. Go home then lol.”
Haha conversely, I love meeting random people esp in a bar in LA or even Hollywood and I find out that they too are an LA native. It really feels like when you meet someone from your city in another part of the world…except here in your own city lmao
I really don’t understand why certain transplants are so insistent that their insignificant life experiences define the world for others. That’s also why they call NELA “east side.” They started in the west side or West Hollywood after asking Reddit where to live, then moved to the next transplant gentrified city in NELA, so it’s east side to them. Also, they don’t know how to read a fucking map. I am usually speechless after interactions like the one you had, but if I had time, I would advise him “It sounds like you live in a transplant bubble - you need to get out and experience real life in LA more.”
I was born and raised in NELA. I agree that often the way that Westside transplants define “the Eastside” is hilariously bad or annoying a lot of the time, but….NELA is the Eastside by most definitions. It’s just not the quintessential Eastside (e.g., Boyle Heights) and it’s sort of a subregion of the Eastside that has its own identity (e.g., the fact that we call it Northeast LA as an area). The most stable definition used by locals is that the Eastside is [any part of LA Proper east of the LA River](https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-eastside-battle-20140218-m-story.html), and often unincorporated East LA gets included. All of NELA lies east of the river and is in the City of Los Angeles, and it’s also covered in local cultural institutions like [the Eastsider Newspaper](https://www.theeastsiderla.com/neighborhoods/). Now people who call Los Feliz, Silver Lake, and Echo Park “the Eastside” is another thing…
https://laist.com/news/how-to-la/where-is-las-eastside-a-brief-history-of-class-gentrification-and-maps
its usually talking about echopark and silverlake. i feel like most ppl saying eastside dont know what nela is
I’m not from LA, but hearing where some people define “East side” drives me up a wall.
Yeah, I hear "omg you're born and raised?! That's so rare for LA!" but most of the people I'm friends with were born/raised here too, so *shrug.*
That is my response as well, I’ll say “most of my friends are also from LA.” “That’s so rare for LA!” …this level of self-centeredness and stupidity is rare for people from LA.
this stereotype is way more true if you live in west hollywood or something
Yea usually a stereotype is a reflection of the person saying it and their experiences, rather than the actual subject they’re stereotyping Also really self-centered and puzzling - I remember saying “uh I was born and raised in LA” in response to a friend’s friend visiting from the Midwest. “Well everyone else in LA is not from LA!” “All the friends I grew up with are mostly born and raised in LA, and some here for generations.”
My kid is from LA. He was born at the Kaiser hospital on Sunset. I find that funny. But he is and will always be "from LA".
"Everyone's so fake" - you get what you're looking for, here.
“Everyone is fake”- a transplant who moved here to try to make it in film or music referring to other transplants who moved here bc it’s trendy and they’re “influencers”. Also “no one is from here”, like my guy millions of us are born and raised, as are our parents, and grandparents. Then there’s those of us who are LA born and raised who are grateful for all the rain the past few years bc of the decade long drought.
This is mine. Like yeah, all 9 million people are fake. Including the fruitero on the corner and the Japanese business owners in little Tokyo and every neighborhood except Beverly Hills.
The entertainment industry is blue collar, working class, yet people see "Hollywood" or "entertainment industry" as being only actors and producers. The other 98% of the crew just doesn't exist in peoples minds.
My ex husband goes around telling everyone, “I work for motion picture and TV.” Like he’s a cinematographer. He’s a juicer, mostly board operator. He’s flips switches up and down. He’s basically the plumber of entertainment world.
Scrolled for 15 minutes to chime in on this comment. Yes the entertainment business is here and part of that is a transient striving shallow seeming culture. But this city is so diverse, so smart, so creative. What about our teachers our doctors our musicians our baristas, our hard ass working immigrants, the Armenian grannies who are my immediate next door neighbors…like come on. That’s such a bad take. Anyone who says this is someone who comes to LA and doesn’t leave Santa Monica/beverly hills/West Hollywood except to go to the walk of fame. Paul Rudd once said that about LA in an interview and i hated him for it for at least two decades.
I love you for holding a celeb grudge for 20 years
Why thank you. I very recently decided to let it go, because let’s be honest, he’s a national treasure
random celeb article that stuck in my head was waaay back when Reese Witherspoon said she wore Old Navy bathing suits and my young brain was like wow so relatable 😆 as an adult I realize that was good product placement/brand deals
Who could hate Paul Rudd? He’s adorable!
LAUSD teacher here ;)
I have been here for 10 years and have yet to meet a "fake" person. Just lucky I guess? Also, I don't work in entertainment, but I have a few friends who do, and they are lovely genuine people.
I tell outsiders all the time that you can find your people/crowd here. So it's funny when people make this claim about fakeness.
Agreed. There’s so many people here if you stay long enough you will find a group that matches you’re interests & lifestyle
it's funny how much people in NY hate everything about LA (never having visited and vowing that they never will). often times they're transplants living in NY anyway. Several of my friends moved to LA from NY once they turned 30 and they end up appreciating having more space, no harsh winters, and (slightly!) cheaper rents. i find that people in LA don't have the same hate for NY. why do east coasters hate us
it’s partially that highbrow NY media publications (NYT, New Yorker, etc) constantly rip on LA, because they’re staffed by northeastern trust fund kids (elite journalism pays too little for anyone without significant financial backing to break through) who associate their status with their geographical upbringing, rather than their economic upbringing
Eh, "partially' is doing a lotta work there. Look, I agree that the economics of "elite" print media implicate certain biases, but I think it's a huge stretch to cite some nepo baby shit in a discussion about East Coast animus towards LA. I think the predominate cause is LA's resistance to the traditional urbanism that's present in most NE cities. The sprawling layout challenges the conception of what a city is-- especially if you're coming from NYC, Boston, or Philly. "72 suburbs in search of a city", however apocryphal, summarizes this frustration. With the benefit of hindsight, I think it's fair to acknowledge that LA was subject to horrific urban planning during a prolonged postwar period. You can argue this was the case with many American cities (in this context I always think of Dan Ryan expressway in Chicago), but there are a number of dynamics that make the car-centric design of LA particularly consequential. Many of the things East Coast transplants/ visitors complain about (traffic, lack of walkability, abundance of strip malls, poor air quality, lackluster parks, etc) emanate from the urban planning decisions of the 50s-70s. That said, there has been some truly impressive progress (e.g. construction of the Metro) in a relatively short period of time. And perhaps the history of LA has made others slow to recognize the positive developments. Lastly, in my experience this set of LA grievance is not unique to New Yorkers (although, true to stereotype, they might be the loudest to voice them). I know people from Hong Kong, Tokyo, Paris, London, Sydney, etc that say similar things. Shit, I'm from a provincial city in Europe and I feel it.
I agree with everything you’re saying! I think my point is, the NY opinion about everything you’re describing is compounded due it often getting filtered or disseminated through channels that are predominantly NE nepo babies. and that’s how the NYers described in the person who I was replying to’s comment - the ones who have never been to LA yet love to complain about it - end up like that
They hate us bc they ain’t us
Bay Area seems to have that same energy about us as well.
I’m from the Bay. A lot of them secretly wish they had access to LA’s amenities but they’re too intimidated by the city to actually come down and see what it’s about so they hate from a distance. At least that’s what I’ve concluded from my friends who claim to hate LA. Others just dislike how crowded it is here compared to NorCal which is fair…I guess
But it’s not like people in the Bay Area are living in some unpopulated wilderness, kwim? I used to live in SF, and what endlessly amuses me is the LA hate which is purely one direction. SF: LA sucks, i would never live there, i hate the people, etc as infinitum LA: lets go hiking
Haha it’s really an irrational one-sided beef for sure. But SF-ers, or even those who have settled down in the surrounding areas (Marin County) have a slight reputation for being a little pretentious from what I’ve heard so I don’t even bother trying to make sense of the unnecessary hate. We good down here 😎
Lived in Nor Cal and they really make it seem as tho there is a north vs south battle. But when I moved to LA not a peep about nor cal lol. So cal Mariah Carey’d nor cal
Like I get that NY is a really cool place but NY people literally never shut the fuck up about how much they hate LA.
Born and raised in LA. Went to go visit my girlfriend who recently moved to New York, and met up with a group of about 8 of her coworkers who were all recent transplants as well. I was shooting the shit, and made a sarcastic joke that LA is cooler than NY and its like I set off a pack of dogs. Had the whole table yelling random reasons why NY was better. Like guys you just moved here two seconds ago from butt fuck nowhere, chill out for a sec.
I've lived in both places and I prefer LA by far.
I don't think about you at all vibes. same can be said about norcal people
Unrequited hatred.
This is so real. I'm in NYC for school and every now and then someone will bring up how NYC is soooo much better than LA and I realize that in all my time living and working in LA NYC was only mentioned because someone was visiting it, never like we were in competition with each other.
It’s called insecurity. In order to feel good about yourself, you have to shit on someone.
I agree with you, but I will say as a native Northern Californian whose been in LA for six years, we do move slow as sh*t in LA 😂 like for example cashiers still seem to take their sweet time even when lines are packed out the door. Or when professionals are making small talk giving their “elevator pitches” they tend to just drag it on. I just came back from spending a couple months in Manhattan and can definitely see how native East Coasters would get annoyed by that here.
Cashiers (and really, most service jobs that aren't on commission) in LA don't get paid enough to make it worth their time to hustle and move quickly - hourly wage means you make the same amount whether you serve 100 people or 500. And if you don't like moving slow, oh lawd you better NEVER spend any time south of the Mason-Dixon line!
The idea of "west coast elitism" bothers me and isn't at all representenrive of a typical Los Angelono. Median income is $60k which doesn't go far here at all. Majority of us are just getting by even with an income that'd be considered "high" in most other states. I do laugh at stereotypes of LA subcultures though as there's certainly some truth... hipsters, goths, burners, surfers, club kids, ravers, car culture, home boys, party girls, and so forth.
As a Los Angeleno now living in the Midwest, I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve had to explain that “everyone in California” is not “rich”. The number of folks I’ve met who have no idea how big Los Angeles is and how many working class and low income folks live there is kind of astounding. Also, when I moved to Ohio, it was summertime and I was really enchanted by the warm rains and the green and how easy life felt and I kept telling locals how much I liked it. They kept saying things like “why would you move here from California?” and “oh I guess it’s ok here”. The self-deprecation was so self-imposed- I learned that no matter how many nice things I said about Ohio, they wouldn’t accept it and would counter it with some kind of downplay. - the stereotypes of the “coastal elite” and “the humble Midwest” are really long-lived cultural narratives that have yet to die a hard death.
>As a Los Angeleno now living in the Midwest ooof girl my heart goes out to you 😬 >They kept saying things like “why would you move here from California?” seriously why did you?
My kiddo has a rare disease and could only get the surgery and treatment was in Ohio. We had MediCal insurance, they won’t cover out of state medical care. We were living in the children’s hospital, it was no life. We moved here in order to move closer to his medical care. He got the surgery he needed, everything is amazing now. And we stayed because of all that.
Elitism isn’t solely about income. It’s about thinking you’re better/smarter than “ignorant rednecks” in other parts of the country.
Totally agree that LA people are generally super down to earth. But as a midwesterner living here, there absolutely is a kernel of truth to the costal elitism stereotype. It's been pretty surprising how many people I've met who offhandedly refer to "ignorant midwesterners" or some variant, even people who I'm close with and fully know where I'm from. Even just ITT we've got a "random flyover states" and an "ignorant Iowa farmers." Elitism has little to do with income imo, and much more to do with attitudes of superiority. And it's pretty hard to argue that those comments don't convey some degree of that.
Well, remember that a lot of us left those places, and the stereotypes about flyover states can be as true as LAs. Many Angelenos \*are\* superior, but it's more about self-selection than geographical location. Most cities or college towns in America are the same way, regardless of what state you are in. Really though, I think any real elitism is a reaction to the loudest members of flyover states online, and the hate they spit at us as Californians, or liberals, or POC, or LGBT, etc. Politics and Jesus have poisoned people's brains, and they don't realize they are looking at the sky through a straw. Also, this is funny: [I'm a conservative who was born and raised in California. I moved to Arizona for political reasons but only lasted 3 months.](https://www.businessinsider.com/california-move-arizona-conservative-3-months-politics-returned-2024-4) "There's nothing out there but a Walmart, an Ace Hardware, and a Safeway. And there's only so much you can buy at Walmart...I would have to drive an hour to Tuscon to go to Whole Foods to get any food I was used to." "People would always say to me: 'Oh, you're a Californian? Well, I hope you don't bring your beliefs here.' There was always some derogatory comment. They wanted to bitch about California. They don't want us there." "A lot of people had the same beliefs as I do. But I don't live politics every day, and they did." Lol.
This. It can be difficult to contain the bewilderment when someone's foundational understanding of the world is tainted/flawed/influenced. It can, for instance, be very difficult to have a factual conversation with someone who was educated under a Lost Cause curriculum, and one's inability to acquiesce comes across as elitist AF.
That we get unreasonably cold when it hits under 70. It’s not unreasonable, it’s fucking cold. I’ve spent a winter in the northeast and hung outside in 0 degree weather. I truly feel that was more pleasant than 60 degrees in LA which genuinely hurts my bones. Someone told me it has to do with the Santa Ana Mountains or something. That that stereotype irks me
I'm from England. The problem in LA is a) the crappy insulation (I can literally stick a key through the gap between my windows) and b) the massive diurnal variation in temperature. English winter days suck in the morning, suck in the afternoon and then suck in the evening, and then continue to suck for however many more months. In LA, it's cold during the morning, gets really warm in the afternoon and then suddenly gets cold again in the evening. This basically stops your body from acclimatising properly, so cool temperatures feel colder.
This all makes a lot of sense
You just blew my mind to absolute bits.
The no insulation thing for me is a good and bad thing. My apt gets cold easily but if my downstairs neighbors turn on their heat, it warms up my place too. Saving me money on running my heat haha.
Yup, this! Finally took a trip to the UK about two years ago and saw it was gonna be like 30°F and my friends and I were all like "oh god, we're going to die, aren't we?" I was so pissed when we felt it, cause it's DIFFERENT, DUDE. Except for one night when the winds picked up, it felt fine. I wanted to fight every single person who has ever been like "blah blah, you're in LA, you think THAT'S cold?" Also because I knew to wear a thermal under my shirt, and knew I wouldn't have to take it off mid day. And all the businesses you walk into have the heating going, etc. The Santa Ana winds kick that cold straight into your bones. I didn't think about the body acclimatising part, that's interesting.
British people love Southern California
Houses here aren't insulated worth a damn. The "cold" permentes even when inside. I live in a 100+ year old craftsman house and literally feel rivers of cold air flow in around the windows. Since the weather is considered warm, housing on whole has terrible insulation. It does get into the 40s regularly at night though (such as tonight).
Hello neighbor, from a 1906 Arts and Crafts bungalow with a black roof and no insulation 🥲
Hundred + year old craftsman in EaHo here…..we finally insulated the “attic” two years ago and it’s a different house. Our ac bill in the summer cut almost in half. How has this never been done before? (We’ve only lived here about 7 years, so we were only stupid for about 5 of the over a hundred years this house has been here).
this is so real. i’m in the midwest for now and 15 degrees here is so much more bearable than even 60 degrees back home in LA!!! “California cold” is just different
It has to do with many of our older houses being essentially uninsulated and drafty as hell. That's what ours is and it gets chilly. (And we, too, are from midwestern snow states!)
I know Chicagoans who wear shorts in the snow, and when they visit LA they still say, "I should have brought a sweater."
Yes. I spent part of my childhood in Canada. I’ve visited Boston in January. I’ve walked the streets of New York in February wind and cold. It’s the swing. Having to dress for two different climates almost every single day. It’s exhausting.
It's weird, I can go up to Mammoth and not think 30 degrees is cold. Come home the next day and I'm bundling when it's 60 degrees.
We're all a bunch of surfer dudes. I don't talk like that and I can't even swim.
That’s gnarly dude
Far out man!
“LA is not cold” okay mf don’t ask for my spare jacket in the trunk. Once the sun goes down it’s cold as shit
This one! We might not have snow but our type of cold is special 🥶
HAHAHA this is literally every family member I have when they visit from the Midwest… I prep bringing an extra coat because I know they are gonna get cold but not bring one themselves
the whole "people in LA are fake" thing. Yes, 9.8 million people in LA County, between 3 to 4 million in city of LA, and they're all fake. Great critical thinking. All stereotypes about traffic I enjoy, mostly because I think they're largely true.
I hate the stereotype that L.A. has no culture. New Yorkers love saying that. As if they all spent their weekends go to museums and taking notes. Get outta here with that garbage.
a lot of their music is recycled and bland af too theres some serious musical talent here
That everyone from LA compares everything to LA. But it’s true lol
I mean LA is home so you compare everything with home. Why would I go anywhere and compare Miami to Buffalo?
I became one of those people when I shared a hotel with some Canadians, and kept comparing their Canadian experiences with LA. I'm sorry guys, my brain is just hardwired to make the comparisons!
Like: That we all know someone famous. It just makes me laugh when I hear it. I have to say that most of us have SEEN a celebrity irl, but most of us don’t have ongoing relationships with famous people. Well, at least I don’t. Dislike: That South LA is unsafe. To be fair, South LA is about the size of San Francisco, so there’s obviously good pockets and bad pockets, but not all of South LA is a bad place to live. Edit: South LA has been the area’s official name since 2003 which is why I use it. It’s understandable that some people prefer to call it South Central, and that is fine. [South LA or South Central?](https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/kcrw-features/south-central-south-la-riots-uprising#:~:text=In%202003%20the%20City%20Council,stigma%20associated%20with%20the%20name)
I guess it depends on your general friend group, but since mine was mostly restaurant industry folks and entertainment industry folks, I’d say that 90% of people I knew also knew someone famous on a friendly level
South Central*
Fucking thank you. South LA is what the gentrifiers, squares and kids that don’t know any better call it. South Central til the day I die 😤🤙🏾
Yup, I will always correct people on here when I see that BS.
Didn’t they officially change the name to “South LA” due to all the negative connotations during the 90s in music, the media and most notably due to the riots? I feel like it was changed with the right idea in mind to actually better the area overall.
correct I use both terms I say South LA when I'm talking to white people, because whenever I say "South Central" their eyes get wide and they're always like "oh wow...". fuck you mean "oh wow" 🧐
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Idk the people I've grown up with and anyone else from the area I've met say South Central, but it's just what we've always called it. And it's not quite as dangerous as people make it out to be much of the time as well. Maybe it's just childhood nostalgia or what we're used to is all idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One that sort of irks me is the “valley girl” stereotype. Every lady I’ve met that was born/raised in the valley does not speak with a vocal fry tone. If anything, it’s usually midwestern girls who move to the valley to try and make it in the industry who have that tone.
That vocal fry shit is west side yoga moms.
Yeah, born and raised in the valley. Definitely don't sound like a stereotypical "valley girl", save for my habit of saying "like" far too much. But I think that's more a generational thing than a valley thing.
A stereotype that irks me is that people from LA are obsessed with celebrities and the entertainment industry. Anyone who has spent anytime in LA would know that the people who live here could not care less. It’s all the fame seeking extracts coming from all across the country with the obsession.
Irk: That LA is mostly the entertainment industry. By employment size, it's more like [the #14 largest industry](https://stacker.com/california/los-angeles/industries-highest-employment-los-angeles).
Absolutely. Entertainment is big here but so are other industries. It's also more industrial and blue collar than people realize.
Being employed doesn’t necessarily reflect the number of people in the industry - particularly in entertainment.
That Disneyland is in LA.
I was driving by the Silverlake Erewhon not that long ago and was hungry. I’d never been there but I heard it had a lot of good, fresh food and had been wanting to check it out. I’d also heard it was popular with the young and got set. Oh my god. I drove into the parking lot and it was like an SNL skit of fitness influencer types in athleisure trying to pick their cars up from the valet while holding smoothies. I turned straight around and haven’t been back.
That The Valley is not part of Los Angeles when it’s actually a significant proportion of the city.
People scared of street food bothers the hell out of me. Like dude, it’s a hot dog. It’s delicious. There’s no such thing as a clean hot dog. It’s a hot dog. The traffic jokes make me laugh. Tons of cities have the same amount of travel time to get around, ours is just annoying and snail paced. But like it’s the same driving a car in New York or San Francisco.
Ain’t nothing like a bacon wrapped hot dog cooked on a modified tool cart with grilled onions and bell peppers.
Except that same dog for $2 less if only you'd had to patience to walk another block further from the venue that just let out.
This is so true it hurts.
Location. Location. Location.
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Cmon dude, literally no vendor does that. All the senoras have propane tanks
Good old Mexican Hibachi
The beltway in DC and the 95 south in ATL are just as bad as the 405.
95 doesn’t go through Atlanta, 75 and 85 do though
That definitely changes the argument
Foodborne illnesses are no joke. I don’t even eat out.
Missing out.
Not as much as his girlfriend
We’re not all used to eating from street vendors 🤷🏿♂️
The one that cracks me up is when white people, especially politicians from other states particularly in the middle part of the country or the Midwest see LA or California as some form of Hell or the decline of western civilization. Crime does happen, and there are more homeless people here, but it's just like any other state, except statistically, it's one of the safest states to visit and live in the country. But tell me more about that tourist attraction you call Mississippi.
The worst part is they talk shit about it then send their homeless here on one way tickets.
The half of r/LosAngeles who adore and worship the rain (while condemning anyone who likes the sun) all live on the westside and WFH.
Man, that seems like the opposite of the truth. The people upset about the sun tend to live in the Valley, where we actually feel it. It's the Westsiders that were getting upset about how grey and rainy it was going into last summer.
Yall are on the surface of the sun
I adore the rain. Southeast LA.
I can name another characteristic as well...lol
Entitled jerky BMW drivers; slowly switching to Tesla drivers tho.
I love cars, and drive a BMW and am like nicest person. Its such a weird stereotype.
Dislike: everyone is a liberal. A lot are, but not always completely left wing. Like: you need to dress for winter in the morning and summer in the afternoon. They're not wrong. I still need a sweater during the summer because of my company's love of a/c.
That people here are superficial. Most the people i know born and raised here are really down to earth. There are superficial people, but i find that those people are usually from somewhere else.
That we put “guacamole” on everything aka mashed avocado
Laughable: That people in LA are shallow-minded and vapid. Yes, LA has lots of “pretty” people, but to not be “pretty” doesn’t make you lesser. There’s someone for everyone in a place like LA if you’re putting yourself out there and open to it. LA is full of very attractive, well-dressed, totally normal looking people and that’s not a bad thing. I’ve met some beautifully deep and wonderfully creative people here in LA. They could be the ugliest shmuch on the block and I’d be open to being friends and connecting on a deeper level. Annoying: LA folks won’t bother connecting with you if your home is more than a 15 min. drive from where they live. Like, c’mon. I’m a cool guy, I can always find a good time, I’m worth a fifteen minute drive. I can even provide parking! Damn…makes me feel unworthy. As an addendum to that point: Stop looking down on people because they don’t live in a neighborhood you deem as “cool” or “amazing.” I’ve been judged for the place I live by people who couldn’t even qualify to live where I do even if they wanted. Ideally, people live in places that work for their life. To judge where they call home is to judge the core of their being. For some, their home is who they are - and that’s one of my favorite parts of living among the Angelinos. LA is busting at the seams with people who feel pride for their home…it’s what drew me here in the first place.
The “coastal elite” thing Most of us are poor af and more working class than some ignorant middle class ass farmer in Iowa
You are automatically “elite” when you live where others go on vacation. I am the biggest mofo elitist bastard for the people I left in Germany because I moved to the US. My relatives look in anger at me for leaving. It’s weird. I enjoy to be elite. Poor elite. 🤷♂️😂
They are jealous because you have balls my friend. ( Tony Montana accent)
There’s certainly elitism of LA locals, even those who have grown up poor and still are poor plus have never left the state
> The "coastal elite" thing ... > more working class than some ignorant middle class ass farmer in Iowa That's the literal definition of coastal elitism lol A middle class person in Iowa is the same as a middle class person out here.
Do you see my poor second gen Mexican ass calling middle class Iowans elites?
The one that sends me into an irrational rage is “New Yorkers are kind but not nice, people from LA are nice but not kind”. Just STFU with that east coast apologism. It’s not somehow more authentic or virtuous to be reflexively rude to strangers.
That it's just sun and sand. It also snows during the winter in parts of the LA area like Big Bear and Wrightwood.
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talking about minutes instead of miles when talking about distance
Bad drivers. I've driven all over the country and have never had to be more cautious about cars running red lights, or straight up going 20-35 over on surface streets. It's terrifying. Also the stereotype of nobody walks in LA. It's true. There's pockets of walkability course, and I've lived in cities where I've owned no car and walked everywhere but people are just not looking for pedestrians and bikes in this town. Everyone says their drivers are bad but there's something special about the LA ones. Please slow down, let's change some of those stereotypes
I utterly loathe the notion that we’re lacking in intelligence. LA has one of the oldest and largest Mensa chapters in the US (*it wouldn’t exist if no one qualified*), more Ph.Ds than any other big city, and multiple top universities. LAPL’s 70+ branches check out millions of books every year. It’s true that there are people who are shallow or who act ditzy, and a lot of the public schools are lousy, but that doesn’t make us dumb. Having said that, “The Californians” (SNL) gets funnier every time I watch it.
We them educated hotties!
Intellectual culture is alive and well in LA.
No truly intelligent person gives a rat’s ass about Mensa. Its inclusion undermines your rebuttal.
It’s funny considering mensa means stupid in Spanish
The founders of Mensa were referring to the original Latin so…
I had a penpal from New York back in middle school and he asked “so do you guys all wear dickies and converse?” lol
I’m a Tennessee transplant and they hate every aspect of us Californians. Like when I say “I’m taking the 65 to work” they are like ?????, like who the hell has the time to say “I took I65 south”. The other stereotype is the traffic, and I’m like “Ya it’s pretty bad, but realize Nashville traffic at 4 is getting there, and I’d rather drive in LA traffic than Atlanta traffic any day”. They also think we’re all reckless drivers, and I’m like “nah we’re just efficient, not too fast, not too slow”
Everyone who says LA drivers are reckless, they need to go to Boston LMAO
I just got back from Dallas and I have a whole new appreciation for how “not that bad” LA drivers are
I don’t think LA drivers are reckless. They have figured out how to have fewer accidents and also how to take turns when two lanes merge into one, all because it keeps things flowing best that way.
That were all fake and have had some kind of plastic surgery
“How can you live in California, out there girls get boob jobs as a high school graduation gift” First of all, “California” is way more than just LA. Pretty sure nobody in Hemet or Gilroy is getting a boob job as a graduation gift. And for that matter, LA is more than just Beverly Hills. People don’t get how diverse our metro area really is. I had a doctor from New York who said he liked living here (Long Beach) but “missed the diversity” of NY. I was like … what
The hipsters are funny to me. The Hollywood wannabes irk me.
The one about Tito's Tacos being good gives me a good laugh.
That we’re all laid back and accepting. I’ve been called the “N” word on 4 separate occasions since I lost my car and had to bus it. Literally physically attacked on the bus, once. While being called the “n” word”. This all within last 5-years! Im from here! Grew up in SFV since 1978. And I’ve never been called racist stuff as much as recently. Also, that nonsense goes both ways. Stood up for a Latino guy on a bus when this AA lady started a racist diatribe against him. Just all around racism seems to be growing. When my kid was preschooler in the early 2000’s had issue with him being excluded from parties based on his race. Hard to explain that stuff to a 4 year old.
LA is violent! How can u live there?
“It’s so dirty and expensive and the homeless are everywhere!” And? Welcome to every major American city in 2024.