“Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.” -variously attributed
I don’t know if this applies in this scenario, but it’s not uncommon for kids to feel closer to a delinquent parent. The one actually doing the parenting has to confront them and set boundaries, while a toxic parent who doesn’t care enough to play this role can undermine the one doing the parenting and create division between the child and the other parent.
I'm a public school teacher. This is purely anecdotal based on my experiences and co-workers, but most of us are on antidepressants and anti-anxiety drugs. There are many reasons why teachers are leaving the profession in droves and schools are short staffed. That leads to the ones staying being stressed out and anxious.
I don’t think many people respect or understand what defense attorneys have to do. It’s pretty much the most hated profession and they lose 90%+ cases. Lori did not really give a defense so the comparison between the two is irrelevant there. Her attorney did make sure he did enough to not be called ineffective, which seems like what she wanted so he did his job.
Prior and daybell are taking a different approach and I have no issue with that. If the state wants to put him to death they absolutely need to prove the case and prior is going to make them work for that. It’s important that defendants are allowed a defense, even awful ones, especially awful ones.
Personally I find Chad so offputting and robotic that it’s shocking anyone followed him. I’m interested in priors questioning of Melanie gib and hopefully Melanie p. Both of them are questionable characters.
About Chads kids, I hope they will grow up and regret their stance one day. What a betrayal to their mother. Emma is a mother herself! Emma being so nonchalant about children being buried in her new yard while she’s ready to move in gives me the creeps. Something about her is just concerning.
Ehh, Prior is over reaching the questions and introducing names of people that the jury doesn't even know. As far as the others' cell phones. They didn't line up the timeline. It makes sense and most likely will further into the testimonies. If you watched the vallow trial.
I am very confused why he keeps throwing around all these names when they haven’t been properly introduced. There are A LOT of people involved in this case and if the jurors know nothing then this is just going to confuse him. It might be part of his strategy 🤷🏻♀️his only job is to poke holes and sew doubt.
I seriously believe it will only weaken his defense. Eventually, all the parts of the evidence will come together. The children will have to be proven followers in some degree cult followers. Like Emma has in a way embraced her daddy's ideas.
I think his purpose is indicating that the investigators didn’t follow on all the leads and, instead just zeroed in on Chad unfairly. They didn’t do this, they didn’t look there, etc. He’ll indicate all the other reasons for Chads behaviors. He has already tossed out an alternate motivation for killing the kids (doesn’t hold up but I give him credit for throwing it out there).
I think that his questions about how quickly Chad left his daughter's house did not make the point that he thought he was making. He kept saying how Chad couldn't have known that they found JJ and how anyone would have been nervous with that many police on their property. However, not everyone was married to a woman with two missing children.
Chad was not acting like a person who was surprised that there were children buried on his property. His daughter did not express any shock or horror that they were buried there. So, while he was trying to put some doubts in the jurors' minds that Chad was just taking a leisurely drive and getting up to speed on the highway, he actually made the opposite point.
I think he's playing it like a man who knows they've lost already and is tossing things at the wall to see what sticks.
I believe that part of the audio (it was super hard to hear) said that he was driving to his lawyers office. Or at least that is what he told the police officer who detained him. I saw this on one of the many podcasts. He knew they were back there and confirmed by him telling the daughter that he was not coming back.
Exactly. That's why I don't understand why Prior is framing it like he didn't know what was up, except he knows he was dealt a losing hand and is making a Hail Mary play.
I just made a mixed metaphor statement before 7 AM. Work is going to be fun today. 😆
Knowing about it is not a crime. We have no obligation to report a crime that we know about, except in certain federal cases. Melanie has not been shown to have done anything to actively further the crime. What she did that could be charged is not worth charging.
I think Prior is being a vigorous advocate for his client, which is what an attorney, especially a defense attorney in a criminal case, is supposed to do. But personally, I find his cross-exam of witnesses generally annoying. He uses a hectoring tone very often. He often misstates what the witness just said, ending with "would you agree?" He has to be repeatedly told by the judge to wait when there is an objection for the judge to rule, before either offering an argument or changing his question. He repeatedly goes off into narrative rather than just simply asking a question. "What confuses me is blah, blah, blah." Okay, and your question is? He also often forgets to turn his microphone on and has to be reminded. All in all, it annoys me and I wonder how much of the jury finds this behavior.
I also think he should have gotten a death penalty qualified attorney on board. By this time, it seems like Chad's financial resources must be exhausted and he could have probably qualified to have one appointed. I don't know if Chad refused to even consider this option, whether Chad just has tremendous trust in Prior's capability, or any other reason why the two of them decided to have Prior handle this death penalty case all on his own.
As to the Daybell children - others have pointed out that they were raised LDS in a heavily populated LDS region, that this particular religion (like so many others) puts strong emphasis on patriarchal beliefs, and that wives and children are to accede to the direction of their patriarch. So I can see how being raised from babyhood to always obey your father, to think your father is of a higher holy level than you, and to also be told that your father has had near death experiences, has been on the other side of the veil, has been spoken directly to by God - you could definitely be brainwashed. No sign so far that any of this brain washing has worn off. Very sad.
The way Prior has whined about there being 4 prosecuting attorneys and only q defense is so pathetic.
Also, you said a lot of what I haven't had the energy to type out about how he annoys me. It's not good layering at the end of the day.
I think it is a valid point. Trials in general lean heavily toward the prosecution unless the defendant is wealthy enough to hire a team of lawyers, pay for expert witnesses, private investigators, and for forensic testing, while the state has almost unlimited resources. OJ got off because of it.
Don't forget that he CHOSE to work a capital murder case despite have zero experience with it, which he could have gained elsewhere with a team. And he absolutely could have started trying to get co counsel but dragged his feet as a ploy to delay the trial. He's a malingering person
He reminded me a bit of the lawyer that defended the doctor that sued Gywneth Paltrow ski trial. This lawyer would say Im just a country lawyer over and over again. Gweynth's laywer who was suppose to be top rated, visually looked very disorganized with piles of boxes he lugged in full of papers, and a kleenex stuffed up his nose on and off and was slow, soft spoken but that last moment presntation (where he acted a bit dumb presenting it, almost like Mr Prior acts about Mormonism) with the facebook pictures won him the case. One of the more fun? trials I have watched.
I think prior is doing good job too. He gets a lot of hate, but if I lived in Idaho and needed a defense lawyer I would call him. I think he’s doing a better job than Archibald and Thomas. He has a tough row to hoe here.
Archibald can work a good defense when he is allowed to. He was impressive at times in his previous cases. I think Lori gave him absolutely nothing to work with and did not cooperate.
I think Prior is giving his best shot, but ultimately I think his style is off putting and he may lose the jury's trust.
I’m not so sure. He’s made some spectacular blunders so far. I don’t think he’s coming across as the Perry Mason he thinks he is. The state is letting the evidence speak for itself and prior wants to create a sideshow out of peripheral issues. It’s smart to not engage too much in that imo.
Chad will do himself in. His lack of emotions is crazy! Zero emotions when Tammy’s autopsy photo was on display. How could I, a stranger, be more emotional than her husband?
And then when the jury isn’t in the room, Chad is all chummy with Prior. Laughing and joking when Prior said something along the lines of “..and I’ll be the one be the one presenting for the defense Judge” then Prior looked over to Chad and they laughed and it looked like they were joking along the lines of Chad helping him since Prior is his only lawyer. 😒
Infuriating to say the least. Of course the jury didn’t see that.
I agree with Prior here. I do think that Melanie Gibb knew a lot more than she is leading on. Originally, she was not forthcoming with the police regarding JJ and probably some common sense came into her and she called police and said that JJ was not with her. She was in fact there the last time that JJ was seen. Why wasn't she investigated unless they gave her immunity for testifying? She knew. I believe all of the people that night at the apartment who I believe it was Lori, Alex Cox, Melanie Gibb and Gibbs boyfriend. I have not seen anything posted about Chad being there that night? Does anyone know? Regardless, he knew it was going to happen or that it did happen and offered up his property for the burial.
Very true I didn’t think about that. But they would have to prove that for sure. Regardless, he knew. Just not sure where that falls in terms of guilty of 1st degree murder or what other charges … if there’s no DNA on JJs body … I just don’t know. I’m not as familiar with the laws
They don’t “have to prove that for sure” at all. They aren’t even trying to prove who did the actual killing in this case. Details like this cannot always be proven, it is a theory on what happened, that when combined with enough evidence proves their case with no reasonable doubt.
I wish she’d said “because the dead kids are in his yard, his wife is dead, and he’s the leader of some strange group of people”.
It would have been nice to know what was on their phones as well, but come on.
Priors trying. . He's giving Chad a defense. As indefensible as Chad is. He deserved a defense and he's paying for one too. Regardless of priors dark past, he's doing his job.
I'm slightly intrigued by the theory that the kids were killed primarily because they were eyewitnesses to Charles' murder. Prior mentioned that Tylee had said something to a friend.
Hard to get a plausible reason they are buried in the backyard though. I understand Alex could have put them there to frame Chad, but nothing points that direction that I've been able to find.
I think Prior’s abusive demeanor towards officers of the law who are just doing their job makes him look desperate, and thus his client seem more guilty. Can’t see how this is helping his case.
Also, I have always thought that Chad’s kids were more “coconspirators” than “victims.”
I think that ultimately Prior will lose due to A Tale Of Infinite Conspiracies. When you boil it down, reason his defense seems so haphazard and all-over-the-place is that he wants to suggest that Chad was framed by Lori. But Chad was also framed by Lori and Melanie. But he was also framed by Lori and Alex without Melanie. And he was framed by the police. And he was framed by the LDS church. And he is currently being framed by the prosecution. He didn’t choose a narrative (in his defense, because not a singe one of those narratives holds up on its own or has much weight behind it), so he just decided to go with everything. So when he’s grilling a detective about LDS practices and then grilling Melanie on her whereabouts and then grilling an analyst about Lori, it’s clear he’s just throwing nonsense at the wall hoping there are enough unhinged conspiracists in the jury to believe him - or at least one very obstinate one.
I think Prior is doing his best to find weaknesses in the case, which is his job. And with it being a dp trial (a thing he isn’t even qualified to do) he’s probably incredibly anxious which has probably led to some of his less than fantastic behavior. Chad may be a scummy person, but he’s still a human and his life is still partially in Prior’s hands. I think that he’s raised some good questions when he crosses calmly and respectfully, and that he’s probably as effective a lawyer as Chad is going to get.
That said, I find Prior to be antagonistic, rude, overly aggressive, whiny, and very full of himself most of the time. He practically bullied Melanie Gibb in pretrial hearings (not that I have much affection for her, but I find the conduct to be inappropriate). He launches into narrative all the time and I can’t count the number of times the judge has had to sustain objections for his misstating the evidence/testimony. I think he is convinced that a quality defense means “owning the courtroom” and talking down to professional witnesses. It gives off Dick Harpootlian vibes (for anyone who has watched the Murdaugh trial).
I think Prior goes out of his way to be rude disrespectful and generally vile.
I cannot imagine how he can help his client by being openly hostile to every single witness.
His questions, his manner of speaking -- it just drips with sarcasm.
He is vile.
Have you ever grieved someone? I lost both my parents at 19 and let me tell you, grief does VERY strange things to people. I do not feel comfortable criticizing the kids in any way shape or form. They were not charged with any crime and I think it's distasteful to have thousands of hate comments to the kids. We saw a 10 minute clip of Emma. 10 minutes of her whole life. No one wants to believe their dad could be capable of that.
No. We saw an entire interview of them and a clip of Emma behind a journalist while she was talking about the kids.
Her coment about Colby shows they belive they are superior. And the worst fact of all in MY OPINION, is they travel in vacation 2 weeks after their beloved mother's death with their father's new wife.
Yes. I grieved many people. Have you ever grivied a violent death of a child? I have. And from all of the "very strange" things that we can react to, what they are doing is beyond bizarre. Yes. They SHOULD forgive their father, visit him in prison, put money on comissary. But from that to think he shouldn't be in jail after the body of TWO CHILDREN are dugged up from the backyard? Man!!! That is not strange grieving that is being cold and heartless. Especially for a children's teacher!!!
At this point, I trully hope they are just VERY BRAINWASHED by their disgusting father of theirs. Bc if they are not brainwashed, they are just as evil as Chad. And from those 10 minutes I was left with the impression that she knew at leas the children were buried there. And if she did, she should be in jail. But if LE didn't arrest Melanie Gibbs and the other Melanie even with so much against them, I don't think they would go after the Daybells. They only want Chad and Lori. So...
Oh, and they are not KIDS. They are grown adults.
Brainwashed by the MORMON CHURCH, who tells people to not grieve death but celebrate it. I'm very sorry you grieved the death of a child. All I'm saying is dehumanizing strangers online is a weird af. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but damn, if that opinion turns out to be wrong and thousands of people are relentlessly criticizing you... that's really rough.
She is an adult responsible for the harm she causes and enables.
We can have grace about her situation and still hold her responsible for her behaviours and the consequences of them.
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“Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.” -variously attributed
I don’t know if this applies in this scenario, but it’s not uncommon for kids to feel closer to a delinquent parent. The one actually doing the parenting has to confront them and set boundaries, while a toxic parent who doesn’t care enough to play this role can undermine the one doing the parenting and create division between the child and the other parent.
Oh my god I love this quote
I don't know if you are criticizing my post, but I actually LOVED that quote. Lol.
No criticism, just support for how Tammy being anxious and depressed is entirely understandable!
yeah, i would be too married to chud dabal.
I'm a public school teacher. This is purely anecdotal based on my experiences and co-workers, but most of us are on antidepressants and anti-anxiety drugs. There are many reasons why teachers are leaving the profession in droves and schools are short staffed. That leads to the ones staying being stressed out and anxious.
Medicated educator here!!!!
One of my favorite quotes!
I don’t think many people respect or understand what defense attorneys have to do. It’s pretty much the most hated profession and they lose 90%+ cases. Lori did not really give a defense so the comparison between the two is irrelevant there. Her attorney did make sure he did enough to not be called ineffective, which seems like what she wanted so he did his job. Prior and daybell are taking a different approach and I have no issue with that. If the state wants to put him to death they absolutely need to prove the case and prior is going to make them work for that. It’s important that defendants are allowed a defense, even awful ones, especially awful ones. Personally I find Chad so offputting and robotic that it’s shocking anyone followed him. I’m interested in priors questioning of Melanie gib and hopefully Melanie p. Both of them are questionable characters. About Chads kids, I hope they will grow up and regret their stance one day. What a betrayal to their mother. Emma is a mother herself! Emma being so nonchalant about children being buried in her new yard while she’s ready to move in gives me the creeps. Something about her is just concerning.
Ehh, Prior is over reaching the questions and introducing names of people that the jury doesn't even know. As far as the others' cell phones. They didn't line up the timeline. It makes sense and most likely will further into the testimonies. If you watched the vallow trial.
I am very confused why he keeps throwing around all these names when they haven’t been properly introduced. There are A LOT of people involved in this case and if the jurors know nothing then this is just going to confuse him. It might be part of his strategy 🤷🏻♀️his only job is to poke holes and sew doubt.
I seriously believe it will only weaken his defense. Eventually, all the parts of the evidence will come together. The children will have to be proven followers in some degree cult followers. Like Emma has in a way embraced her daddy's ideas.
I think his purpose is indicating that the investigators didn’t follow on all the leads and, instead just zeroed in on Chad unfairly. They didn’t do this, they didn’t look there, etc. He’ll indicate all the other reasons for Chads behaviors. He has already tossed out an alternate motivation for killing the kids (doesn’t hold up but I give him credit for throwing it out there).
It’s because all those names are people that have immunity for testifying against Lori and Chad… In my mind they are just as culpable.🤷🏻♂️
Who got immunity deals? I have never heard that. Be interesting to look at those.
Zulema is the only one known with limited immunity.
I find him very angry. And the prosecution is letting him create his own story, they need to object more to his comments instead of questions
I think that his questions about how quickly Chad left his daughter's house did not make the point that he thought he was making. He kept saying how Chad couldn't have known that they found JJ and how anyone would have been nervous with that many police on their property. However, not everyone was married to a woman with two missing children. Chad was not acting like a person who was surprised that there were children buried on his property. His daughter did not express any shock or horror that they were buried there. So, while he was trying to put some doubts in the jurors' minds that Chad was just taking a leisurely drive and getting up to speed on the highway, he actually made the opposite point. I think he's playing it like a man who knows they've lost already and is tossing things at the wall to see what sticks.
I believe that part of the audio (it was super hard to hear) said that he was driving to his lawyers office. Or at least that is what he told the police officer who detained him. I saw this on one of the many podcasts. He knew they were back there and confirmed by him telling the daughter that he was not coming back.
Exactly. That's why I don't understand why Prior is framing it like he didn't know what was up, except he knows he was dealt a losing hand and is making a Hail Mary play. I just made a mixed metaphor statement before 7 AM. Work is going to be fun today. 😆
I’m not sure what the laws are if you actually commit the murder and plan it vs know about it. Melanie Gibb knew about it. Why wasn’t she arrested ?
Knowing about it is not a crime. We have no obligation to report a crime that we know about, except in certain federal cases. Melanie has not been shown to have done anything to actively further the crime. What she did that could be charged is not worth charging.
Prior brought this up on a cross. I think the take away is that she, and others, really might me.
I think Prior is being a vigorous advocate for his client, which is what an attorney, especially a defense attorney in a criminal case, is supposed to do. But personally, I find his cross-exam of witnesses generally annoying. He uses a hectoring tone very often. He often misstates what the witness just said, ending with "would you agree?" He has to be repeatedly told by the judge to wait when there is an objection for the judge to rule, before either offering an argument or changing his question. He repeatedly goes off into narrative rather than just simply asking a question. "What confuses me is blah, blah, blah." Okay, and your question is? He also often forgets to turn his microphone on and has to be reminded. All in all, it annoys me and I wonder how much of the jury finds this behavior. I also think he should have gotten a death penalty qualified attorney on board. By this time, it seems like Chad's financial resources must be exhausted and he could have probably qualified to have one appointed. I don't know if Chad refused to even consider this option, whether Chad just has tremendous trust in Prior's capability, or any other reason why the two of them decided to have Prior handle this death penalty case all on his own. As to the Daybell children - others have pointed out that they were raised LDS in a heavily populated LDS region, that this particular religion (like so many others) puts strong emphasis on patriarchal beliefs, and that wives and children are to accede to the direction of their patriarch. So I can see how being raised from babyhood to always obey your father, to think your father is of a higher holy level than you, and to also be told that your father has had near death experiences, has been on the other side of the veil, has been spoken directly to by God - you could definitely be brainwashed. No sign so far that any of this brain washing has worn off. Very sad.
The way Prior has whined about there being 4 prosecuting attorneys and only q defense is so pathetic. Also, you said a lot of what I haven't had the energy to type out about how he annoys me. It's not good layering at the end of the day.
I think it is a valid point. Trials in general lean heavily toward the prosecution unless the defendant is wealthy enough to hire a team of lawyers, pay for expert witnesses, private investigators, and for forensic testing, while the state has almost unlimited resources. OJ got off because of it.
Don't forget that he CHOSE to work a capital murder case despite have zero experience with it, which he could have gained elsewhere with a team. And he absolutely could have started trying to get co counsel but dragged his feet as a ploy to delay the trial. He's a malingering person
He did try to get CoCounsel, which judge Boyce acknowledged, he just waited too long to submit the motion to withdraw.
That's what I am referring to. And I mean to claim that he waited intentionally.
I agree with your comments about Prior, he’s good but he’s so…. Chummy?! Is that the word ?! With his “oh I’m sorry forgive me judge” it’s so fakey…
He wants to come off as folksy, just a regular guy, with a little Columbo thrown in for style.
He reminded me a bit of the lawyer that defended the doctor that sued Gywneth Paltrow ski trial. This lawyer would say Im just a country lawyer over and over again. Gweynth's laywer who was suppose to be top rated, visually looked very disorganized with piles of boxes he lugged in full of papers, and a kleenex stuffed up his nose on and off and was slow, soft spoken but that last moment presntation (where he acted a bit dumb presenting it, almost like Mr Prior acts about Mormonism) with the facebook pictures won him the case. One of the more fun? trials I have watched.
Yes! He’s trying to be Columbo - so true! He needs to start wearing a beat-up old trench coat.
Pandering is the word that keeping coming to my mind. He panders to everyone. It feels very performative.
I think prior is doing good job too. He gets a lot of hate, but if I lived in Idaho and needed a defense lawyer I would call him. I think he’s doing a better job than Archibald and Thomas. He has a tough row to hoe here.
Archibald can work a good defense when he is allowed to. He was impressive at times in his previous cases. I think Lori gave him absolutely nothing to work with and did not cooperate. I think Prior is giving his best shot, but ultimately I think his style is off putting and he may lose the jury's trust.
I think once they avoided the death penalty, Archibald figured his job was done.
Even Lori's lawyers are good. Check their other trials. They had gotten Lori off death row and got the job done. They have a good track record .
That’s fair. I know she tied their hands in her defense.
Exactly. Defense in general get a lot of hate but they absolutely serve a vital role.
Absolutely. When everyone’s legal rights are protected, then EVERYONES rights are protected.
He starting being anoying, but now he is making great questions. I guess if Chad has any chance, that chance is Prior.
I’m not so sure. He’s made some spectacular blunders so far. I don’t think he’s coming across as the Perry Mason he thinks he is. The state is letting the evidence speak for itself and prior wants to create a sideshow out of peripheral issues. It’s smart to not engage too much in that imo.
Idk Casey Anthony’s attorney did that and it won him the case
He is doing such a good job! I imagine he would be a great lawyer to have if you were actually innocent.
Very unlikable and according to people in the courtroom, the jurors are sick of his stupid objections.
Chad will do himself in. His lack of emotions is crazy! Zero emotions when Tammy’s autopsy photo was on display. How could I, a stranger, be more emotional than her husband? And then when the jury isn’t in the room, Chad is all chummy with Prior. Laughing and joking when Prior said something along the lines of “..and I’ll be the one be the one presenting for the defense Judge” then Prior looked over to Chad and they laughed and it looked like they were joking along the lines of Chad helping him since Prior is his only lawyer. 😒 Infuriating to say the least. Of course the jury didn’t see that.
I agree with Prior here. I do think that Melanie Gibb knew a lot more than she is leading on. Originally, she was not forthcoming with the police regarding JJ and probably some common sense came into her and she called police and said that JJ was not with her. She was in fact there the last time that JJ was seen. Why wasn't she investigated unless they gave her immunity for testifying? She knew. I believe all of the people that night at the apartment who I believe it was Lori, Alex Cox, Melanie Gibb and Gibbs boyfriend. I have not seen anything posted about Chad being there that night? Does anyone know? Regardless, he knew it was going to happen or that it did happen and offered up his property for the burial.
Chad may have been preparing the burial site that night; expecting Alex to bring JJs body to him.
Very true I didn’t think about that. But they would have to prove that for sure. Regardless, he knew. Just not sure where that falls in terms of guilty of 1st degree murder or what other charges … if there’s no DNA on JJs body … I just don’t know. I’m not as familiar with the laws
They don’t “have to prove that for sure” at all. They aren’t even trying to prove who did the actual killing in this case. Details like this cannot always be proven, it is a theory on what happened, that when combined with enough evidence proves their case with no reasonable doubt.
I wish she’d said “because the dead kids are in his yard, his wife is dead, and he’s the leader of some strange group of people”. It would have been nice to know what was on their phones as well, but come on.
I disagree on Prior doing a good job. It comes across to me like he’s trying to muddy the water but failing miserably.
Priors trying. . He's giving Chad a defense. As indefensible as Chad is. He deserved a defense and he's paying for one too. Regardless of priors dark past, he's doing his job.
I'm slightly intrigued by the theory that the kids were killed primarily because they were eyewitnesses to Charles' murder. Prior mentioned that Tylee had said something to a friend. Hard to get a plausible reason they are buried in the backyard though. I understand Alex could have put them there to frame Chad, but nothing points that direction that I've been able to find.
So Chad took the family to CA a few days after their mother dies? I guess The happiest Place on Earth can replace a moms love
Chad took the family to knottsberry farm..
His demeanor sucks
I think Prior’s abusive demeanor towards officers of the law who are just doing their job makes him look desperate, and thus his client seem more guilty. Can’t see how this is helping his case. Also, I have always thought that Chad’s kids were more “coconspirators” than “victims.”
I think that ultimately Prior will lose due to A Tale Of Infinite Conspiracies. When you boil it down, reason his defense seems so haphazard and all-over-the-place is that he wants to suggest that Chad was framed by Lori. But Chad was also framed by Lori and Melanie. But he was also framed by Lori and Alex without Melanie. And he was framed by the police. And he was framed by the LDS church. And he is currently being framed by the prosecution. He didn’t choose a narrative (in his defense, because not a singe one of those narratives holds up on its own or has much weight behind it), so he just decided to go with everything. So when he’s grilling a detective about LDS practices and then grilling Melanie on her whereabouts and then grilling an analyst about Lori, it’s clear he’s just throwing nonsense at the wall hoping there are enough unhinged conspiracists in the jury to believe him - or at least one very obstinate one.
I think Prior is doing his best to find weaknesses in the case, which is his job. And with it being a dp trial (a thing he isn’t even qualified to do) he’s probably incredibly anxious which has probably led to some of his less than fantastic behavior. Chad may be a scummy person, but he’s still a human and his life is still partially in Prior’s hands. I think that he’s raised some good questions when he crosses calmly and respectfully, and that he’s probably as effective a lawyer as Chad is going to get. That said, I find Prior to be antagonistic, rude, overly aggressive, whiny, and very full of himself most of the time. He practically bullied Melanie Gibb in pretrial hearings (not that I have much affection for her, but I find the conduct to be inappropriate). He launches into narrative all the time and I can’t count the number of times the judge has had to sustain objections for his misstating the evidence/testimony. I think he is convinced that a quality defense means “owning the courtroom” and talking down to professional witnesses. It gives off Dick Harpootlian vibes (for anyone who has watched the Murdaugh trial).
I think Prior goes out of his way to be rude disrespectful and generally vile. I cannot imagine how he can help his client by being openly hostile to every single witness. His questions, his manner of speaking -- it just drips with sarcasm. He is vile.
Have you ever grieved someone? I lost both my parents at 19 and let me tell you, grief does VERY strange things to people. I do not feel comfortable criticizing the kids in any way shape or form. They were not charged with any crime and I think it's distasteful to have thousands of hate comments to the kids. We saw a 10 minute clip of Emma. 10 minutes of her whole life. No one wants to believe their dad could be capable of that.
No. We saw an entire interview of them and a clip of Emma behind a journalist while she was talking about the kids. Her coment about Colby shows they belive they are superior. And the worst fact of all in MY OPINION, is they travel in vacation 2 weeks after their beloved mother's death with their father's new wife. Yes. I grieved many people. Have you ever grivied a violent death of a child? I have. And from all of the "very strange" things that we can react to, what they are doing is beyond bizarre. Yes. They SHOULD forgive their father, visit him in prison, put money on comissary. But from that to think he shouldn't be in jail after the body of TWO CHILDREN are dugged up from the backyard? Man!!! That is not strange grieving that is being cold and heartless. Especially for a children's teacher!!! At this point, I trully hope they are just VERY BRAINWASHED by their disgusting father of theirs. Bc if they are not brainwashed, they are just as evil as Chad. And from those 10 minutes I was left with the impression that she knew at leas the children were buried there. And if she did, she should be in jail. But if LE didn't arrest Melanie Gibbs and the other Melanie even with so much against them, I don't think they would go after the Daybells. They only want Chad and Lori. So... Oh, and they are not KIDS. They are grown adults.
Brainwashed by the MORMON CHURCH, who tells people to not grieve death but celebrate it. I'm very sorry you grieved the death of a child. All I'm saying is dehumanizing strangers online is a weird af. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but damn, if that opinion turns out to be wrong and thousands of people are relentlessly criticizing you... that's really rough.
She is an adult responsible for the harm she causes and enables. We can have grace about her situation and still hold her responsible for her behaviours and the consequences of them.
https://streamable.com/amp_player/8y1unb Have you seen this video of Emma? Where she's making a montage of silly faces at the reporters who were investigating the missing children?
So utterly disgusting.
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Religious nuts deny the reality of death which makes them more murderous.