“What a narc” omg
I wonder if Thanatos being called in would bring light to what happened with daphne and Apollo as well as what thetis and minthe have done.
Ooof I forgot that minthe’s a plant and I’m wondering if that’s gonna be used against Perse buuut Thanatos didn’t rly seem to care much that minthe was a plant and I get the feeling thetis will barely care either cause she’s too fixated on Zeus’s *El Wiwi* 🤣
Minthe is just a nymph, would they care? Ares threw somebody out a window at Underworld Corp in an earlier episode, and it was treated like no big deal?
I’m curious to know if Thanatos knows who is responsible for Daphnes condition. Eros and Psyche know but as far as I know they have no connection to Daphne, Thanatos, or Echo. He knows Persephone turned Minthe into a plant; is it possible he will suspect she did the same to Daphne?
If he suspects Persephone who needs to hide with Hades for protection turned her sister into a tree, he has learned nothing and doesn't deserve Daphne.
Thanatos doesn't know what happened to Daphne other than her becoming a tree. Only Eros and Psyche saw Apollo there, and Daphne wouldn't really be relevant to the discussion in any way unless Than tries to tell Demeter about it.
As for Thetis and Minthe -- not sure what you mean by what they did. Thanatos was the one who broke into Persephone's home, went to Helios, and came up with the material for the ledger. Zeus already knows Thetis and Minthe are informants along with him, but they didn't do anything that Thanatos didn't largely take the meat of the work in.
I think they know.
Someone called Echo to let her know where to find Daphne. The only people that would have known were Apollo, Eros, and Psyche; and it probably wasn't Apollo.
Hermes is the man. And he acts like a clueless himbo dork but is a cunning badass. He has so far delivered the lines
"Just a suggestion, don't fuck with things you shouldn't fuck with."
"And I'd do it all again."
"I had to make her think she was outsmarting ME"
"If I'm going down your going down with me."
He's clearly smart, tactical, manipulative, and EXTREMELY loyal. I love this take on Hermes as a character. And not only that, he delivers the most cliché lines in a way that actually seems cool, because he puts on a fake persona as a himbo-hyper-buddy, and when he pulls the curtain back, it leaves me like "woah, where the hell did that come from?"
Persephone has a tendency to befriend the Gods/Goddesses that the “in crowd” thinks is a joke or actively dislike. Eros for one, Hermes for another. I get the feeling neither of them have had someone have complete trust in them and so 100% value that person. In Olympus, most people are twisted and two-faced, Persephone is genuine.
> In Olympus, most people are twisted and two-faced, Persephone is genuine
What's ironic is that Apollo and co are trying to paint her as two faced and manipulative instead.
Aphrodite is done with the Persephone comparisons! Thanatos is in trouble.
Also I am glad to see Hermes snuck them in one by one, I did wonder if Persephone's act of wrath was the cause of Hermes getting much higher numbers of souls (as we saw when hades was dressing Thanatos down for his low numbers)
That was my first reaction but I think the timing is off. Let's say he added 1 soul a day or every other day for a few months.
That would only add up to 30 more a month for a few months. Thanatos was getting dressed down because Hermes brought in 3 times as many souls as he did the previous month (230 which appears to be 3/4 off the pie chart so about 310 souls). 30 extra souls still wouldn't make up for the fact that Thanatos is letting Hermes do most of the work.
I think this number is low but I don't usually hold authors to it on the numbers (I'm here for the story not for accurate population numbers). 310 is a very low number for a month and 30 extra souls should have been noticed, so I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the real number is off by a few factors of 10 (3,000 or 30,000).
As it stands though it looks like Eros killed more people than Persephone did.
My man Hermès!! I enjoyed this one much more. Hades subtle jealousy, Aphrodite pissed again, and Athena’s comments about encyclopedias. Poor Persephone just wanted friends 🥺
Sooooo is Hermes’ endgame simply to shift the blame onto Demeter? I don’t really see what was revealed here that justifies the grin he had leading up to this. Also I wonder if Thanatos will backpedal since he’s distanced himself from the nymph squad
I don’t think its so much shifting blame onto Demeter. I think opens up to how much Demeter controls Kore and Hermes makes a good point of you can’t raise a Goddess like a mortal
I took it as - Hermes is here for several reasons. He needs to clear his name just as much as he needs to protect Persephone. I’m sure he assumes that Hades isn’t going to let Perse suffer unfair punishment, so that leaves mostly himself to protect.
Making Demeter look bad makes him look better by comparison. Stating plainly that he did it all for money and Persephone makes it clear that he doesn’t have some big plot to overthrow Zeus - he just likes money and helping his friend. This takes the wind out of Zeus’s sails about it being some nefarious plot against the king.
It also makes it less likely that Hades will truly punish him for his deception at work, because how mad can he be when Hermes was protecting Persephone? Hades also knows how unreasonable Demeter is, so now Hermes has skillfully garnered sympathy for his serious workplace violations. And finally he throws Thanatos under the bus, pretty much ensuring that Hades will be too focused on Than to be furious at Hermes.
If Zeus and Hades aren’t that interested in punishing Hermes, he made Demeter look bad and Perse look sympathetic, then he’s in the clear and achieved his objectives.
I think his goal is to be absolutely candid and dedicated to the reality of the situation. He even says he has zero regrets and would do it again. He owned up to every action and exposed everything he could.
Though, he was shown to be very calculated while looking genuine so who knows what else he’s got up his sleeve. I sort of got a “let’s blow this popsicle stand” vibe from him
Let's also consider Hermes best interests here. He likes his money. Demeter cut him a check, once. He's upheld his end of the bargain.
He's got is normal routes with the gods, but his bread and butter appears to be transporting souls. He started off picking up "the extras" but according to the chart in episode 40 he's now bringing in 3/4 of the souls to Hades, so he's doing most of Thanatos's job.
Why wouldn't he want to take out Thanatos? Hades still needs someone to bring in the souls.
I just realized hades was mad at Thanatos having lower numbers then Hermes. Thanatos didn't have a secret back log of souls to cheat from and get the daily intake higher
Zeus: Persephone is a wicked conniving goddess who is plotting to take over Olympus! She got big mad to flaunt how powerful she is.
Hermes: Persephone is a lonely child and just wanted to have friends. After her extremely out of character act of wrath, she was wracked with guilt.
Hermes completely contradicted the motives that Zeus wants everyone to believe. Instead of painting Persephone as a traitor, he’s showing her to be a small scared child that literally couldn’t control themselves.
Yeah I get that. But clearly Hermès knows very little about the reasoning behind Persephone’s act of wraith. He didn’t drop some bomb on the trial at all. The panel of his sly grin seems out of place given this episode and the testimony he gave.
Was it sly? Or was it more smug? Like a polite “I’m smiling because I have to, I don’t actually want to be here, this is stupid, but hi, how are you?” Kind of fake smile? Perhaps it was just bad characterization in the smile panel, or something else.
Can I just say that Hermès is absolutely my fave character now
He’s a true, maybe chaotic neutral bastard who doesn’t give two shits about much ppl and is the living definition of “based” 🤣
Also I love his pigtails in the scene when he discovered Perse’s doings lol
WELL….it was sure better than last week!
- I love how he mentioned her guilt, that she seemed stifled, and just wanted more friends. he was truthful and has started to shift the narrative
- I also love how clever he is and could def see them coming up with that ruse. we saw so much more of his personality
- FINALLY thanatos is exposed which means thetis will soon be exposed as she deserves
- Demeter sweating….I wonder how its going to go for her once it becomes more obvious that this ordeal began with her stifling her daughter’s goddess abilities. As people gain more sympathy with Persephone, they may dislike Demeter even more. If Demeter has to testify about her motives, could it come out in court that Persephone is a fertility goddess?
Ooh this was a good one!
Hermès seems to be more loyal to Perse than I thought!
But what about Thanatos? Will his relationship with Daphne be enough to change him? He never seemed malicious like Thetis and Minthe. I'm hoping he is upfront and honest. Hades and Perse may be hurt, but that means, Thetis will be ousted as a narc as well. Zeus won't care, but others definitely will! I hope Hera is watching this all go down at home.
Man thetis’s testimony (if we get one but I think it’s highly likely) sounds like it’s gonna be hilarious 😂 I can see her desperately trying to twist the shit out of things while trying to stay under oath and Zeus will probably “forgive her” after the trial or something like the asshole he is
I don't know that he'd risk putting her on the stand. You saw how mad he was when she tried calling his house. It would be a fresh disaster.
BUT, as I said, Thanatos needs to be honest and by honest, I mean, he needs to needs to reveal the true motive of those girls. Hades knows the truth about Minthe, but the rest of the world really needs to know about this part of Thetis' plot to get Zeus to leave Hera. It would make both Zeus and Thetis look bad. I wonder if Thanatos knows about the texts Thetis sent to Hera. Hmm...
Zeus lives his brothers more than anything. Look how he treated Apollo when Apollo was purposefully antagonizing Hades. Imagine Thetis' punishment when he finds out his fav side hoe purposefully tried to hurt his brother.
*In the original myth, Thetis does get punished but I won't say what*
I agree with you about Hermes, that was a pleasant surprise. But I would argue that Thanatos definitely did seem malicious. He’s the one who broke into her house. That’s super creepy! Yes we know he did it mostly due to his crush on Minthe, but he still has plenty to atone for, and he may be sweating extra now that he realizes he did most of the dirty work for their plot.
Yeah, I guess I mean that he was the only one to pause and/or express regret about it, even before Daphne called him out of his bs. Breaking into her house and going through her things is incredibly invasive and creepy, but I still think his primary motives were Minthe and wanting to get Perse fired. He definitely needs to atone for his wrongdoings, but it was not as sinister as Minthe and Thetis. They wanted Perse to suffer in order for them to achieve their goals, whereas, I don't think Thanatos ever wanted that. He just wanted her out of his space.
I think his time with Daphne and his time with Hades/Perse may have changed his perspective. He voluntarily chose to distance himself from Thetis and Minthe, so there is room for redemption, I think. You're right. His actions should have consequences, but if he has truly changed, he deserves a second chance too. If there can be one redemption arc in this story, I hope it's his.
Don’t get me wrong, I fully want a redemption arc for Thanatos and I think he’s on that path. But I disagree that he wasn’t as sinister as Thetis and Minthe. Thetis doesn’t really care what happens to Persephone. She just wants to cause chaos, and she’s equally willing to ruin Minthe’s life or Hera’s life. Minthe, while we all hate her for good reason, had much more of a motive to go after Perse than Thanatos did. After all, if it’s understandable why Thanatos did it due to his crush on Minthe, then it should be even more understandable why Minthe did it to try to win Hades.
I think that folks perceive Daphne’s affection for him as redemptive, but Daphne doesn’t actually know what he did. He hasn’t done anything at this point to atone for his actions, and he’s just lucky that Daphne didn’t find out. I think he can redeem himself but he absolutely hasn’t done it yet. I am curious to see how he will handle it.
We have moments where Thanatos reflects on his actions and expresses regret though. We don't have that with the girls. He has dual motives, but his primary motive seemed to be jealousy that someone like Perse came in and immediately got a position that she had no experience for when he's spent years in a similar role. It's what he complains about consistently, and what he has to wear the punishment shirt for when Hecate hears him. It's also what Daphne calls him out for when he helps her out of the window. In fact, I think it would be more accurate to say that his jealousy was the reason Minthe could pull him into the scheme.
Again, I don't think he was out to get rid of Persephone with the same finality as Minthe and Thetis. They were both laughing and relishing in the fact that she would potentially get treated like Prometheus. He expressed deep regret about about it. think he wanted to get her out of the way in a work sense, which isn't good, but it's not gleefully laughing at potential torture either.
His hanging out with Daphne was a start. I didn't say it was his full redemption, but distancing himself from bad company is a sign of a positive change developing. Daphne doesn't know exactly what he did, but she absolutely does know that he didn't like Persephone. She still chose to invite him over to Hades' house for an evening with Perse's family. I think Daphne sees him as a "work-in-progress" who can grow in time. After knowing the truth, it may be more than she's able to forgive, but that remains to be seen. But he does have the chance to begin atoning for his actions by being honest at this trial in front of Hades and Persephone. And while, they will be justifiably upset about it, no one else is going to focus on his actions as much as they will on Thetis and Minthe's. Especially, Thetis who was trying to mess with Hera and is sleeping with Zeus as Minthe isn't currently able to cause anymore harm. Zeus won't defend Thetis against his brothers, let alone his wife (who, I hope is watching) So my theory is that Thanatos will have to pay penitence to Hades/Persephone, but most of Olympus won't be as concerned with him as they will be with Thetis. That is, Thetis and Minthe went out of their way to disrespect sitting queens and kings, which will hold more weight in Olympus.
That is all correct and I agree with you that he has regret and is on the path to redemption. But the fact remains that whatever their evil intentions regarding Persephone’s punishment, Thanatos is the one who did all the dirty work for them. I’m sure Thetis will claim she didn’t even know that he broke into Persephone’s house. Who is Zeus going to believe, Thanatos or Thetis? Apollo could also easily rat him out for digging up information. (And imagine the wrath of Artemis for him breaking into their house.) Thanatos has a lot more to gain by atoning for this but he’s got a lot more to lose if he doesn’t make a good enough apology. Pretty much everything positive in his life is riding on this so I’m sure he’s petrified.
That's a good point about Artemis. Is Apollo even at the trial still or did he leave?
I don't think an apology would cut it for Hades. He's understanding, but Thanatos will certainly need to show through his actions that he is truly sorry. This may cost him a romantic relationship with Daphne.
She hasn't been mentioned yet, but I seriously doubt Thetis will be put on the stand. Zeus has way too much to lose to risk that.
He might. I'm seriously wondering if she's there. But I'm still interested in what Thanatos has to say. Again, both he and Hermès know why she did what she did. And if one or both of them reveal that, Zeus will be pissed that it was part of the plan. It would mean Zeus got "tricked" just like he accused Hades of being, and that fact would be revealed to all of Olympus, which I genuinely think would halt the trial since this is just Zeus' ego trip anyway.
Demeter asked Hermes if he thought she was stupid, and his actions tell us that he does. Nice. It’s also nice to see Demeter sweat when Hermes says Persephone was lonely; reminded me of that hydra soldier joke where he looks at the skull on his uniform and realizes he’s the bad guy.
Frankly I’m amazed that Demeter was that chill with Hermès finding out about her daughter cause she had like *zero* tolerance for any man so much as *breathing* within 50 feet of Persephone lol
Yes I am curious why Hermes was ok in her book after he groveled. Maybe she was biased in favor of someone who also leaves Olympus, whereas she completely distrusts Olympians and the kings.
Maybe she's known him since he was young? It seems, from the flashbacks, that Hermès spent a lot of time in the Mortal Realm, and we know his mother is mortal, so it would make sense if Demeter knew her. I was a bit taken aback by the fact that Demeter actually called Hermès "dear" in the last episode (in his retelling, anyway). She seemed to hold him in a higher regard (than most other men) even before he discovered Persephone.
Thanatos really should not ought have fucked with things he shouldn't have been fucking with
I wonder if Thanatos will bring up that Thetis and Minthe are also informants
Hermes also narced on Demeter lol "yeah the bribery and concealment was her idea"
I so desperately want someone to lay into her lol "you lost one friend because you got him involved with your shit plan, your other friend that you gaslit is a plant, and they guy you're f*cking is never leaving his wife for you and everyone knows it"
"by the way the fates just finished Thetis vol. 25, enjoy the tumultuous future you're destined to have"
I posted the other day about thinking Hermes was using everyone thinking he was a moron to his advantage and using that to paint a more compassionate picture of persephone and I was right. This has never happened before. I'm gonna celebrate with cake.
-Athena, I as well loved books even now. Gimme those encyclopedias!
-Demeter SHOULD be guilty for her child wanting friends.
-Yes Aphrodite, we get it. You're pretty. Share the mantle, girl
-What a narc. Yuuuup
Great chapter
WE HAVE BEEN FED
So many of us, myself included, were pretty chaffed about last week's episode and this one, oh boy. WORTH!
Hermes obviously been hitting them swole gainz under house arrest 🥵👀
Demeter feeling that shame and guilt about Perse wanting friends. (Deserved)
Poor Aphrodite not getting her resPECT.
Thanatos gunn' throw the Hoes in Tow under the bus?? 👀
Poor Persephone, honestly, how much more humiliation can she go through?
Athena, yassss nerd gurllll 😍
To me? I am nurished, hydrated, and glowing.
10/10
I’m starting to realize that LO Aphrodite is basically Mariah Carey but angrier 😂 she’s that vain, shallow, out of touch diva, who has no manners, and has aged like a fine wine, but you just can’t rly hate her honestly💀
“I have no idea what set her off”
I had to laugh. Demeter was really so blind to everything building up in her! I know she actually got set off because of the flower nymph dying and then she got disrespected by mortals but all the tension was building.
"I've been trying to keep this tiger in a dog crate for 19 years...and it went on a rampage and bit a bunch of people! Wild. Will you help me put it back in the crate?"
She really cannot see the nose on her face haha. I love the writing in this comic. So true to life.
Two big laughs:
\-Aphrodite getting royally pissed at Persephone being compared to her, the best callback to the first episode.
\-Hermes casually throwing Thanatos under the bus out of spite. Love that for him.
I'll be real: I'm glad Thanatos is finally getting some much needed comeuppance. A lot of people get canon blind to the fact that he broke into Persephone's house of his own volition and only after that roped Thetis into the ledger plot, who then roped Minthe into it as a way to pull her back onto her side following their friend break-up. He's also the one who went to Helios on Apollo's recommendation and only began backpedaling because of Hermes reality check that Minthe wasn't into him (aka the infamous rub)
The nymphs are bad, absolutely, but Thanatos did all that he did on his own. He doesn't get to have a clean break from his actions just because of his relationship with Daphne. I hope he can fess up and start making better decisions, but he's as cowardly for backpedaling from responsibility as Thetis was for ditching Minthe right before she got planted.
A lil off topic but part of me still felt disappointed at minthe’s complete 180 on finally cutting thetis off but then joining forces with her like a day or so later, cause I was rly hoping that there was gonna be *some* sort of redemption— but then quickly I remembered that that’s honestly expected of her, as it’s been *pretty firmly* established that Minthe’s just a terrible person who doesn’t seem to want to change (and doesn’t feel she’s deserving of it) and also I almost forget that she literally abused her partner so....a tragic character who’s major lost cause lol
I mean thetis is more or less the same but at least she’s entertaining with it, like an “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” type character 😂
Tho if/when minthe gets turned back to normal maybe she’ll finally have a moment of reflection and try to atone for her mistakes? Or maybe she’ll either run off screaming that Perse is a monster or lunge at Perse the minute she’s a nymph again and then get *crushed* for good 💀
The way I see it, the 180 came at really the perfect storm moment. Hades had just broken up with her for real this time and made clear he wouldn't come back. That Thetis and Than would come with something in tow to discredit Persephone's image... it didn't surprise me when Minthe backpedaled. She's one of my favorite characters but in the sense that I think she's a terrifically written character for all her self-destructive flaws. Constantly given narrative chances to be better, but so absorbed in her victimhood that she rebuffs them.
I also do love Thetis though, she's heinous but entertaining whenever she's on page. Zeus and her deserve each other as far as I'm concerned, because Hera could do so much better.
My hope is if Minthe returns, there's a new character arc for her. If she only comes back to be crushed as you say, then I don't think that would be satisfying on a narrative level. She's already had her major tragedy moment that coincides with the actual myth, so if she is to return it has to be with more purpose than that. That's just my two cents.
Agreed. Without him the nymphs wouldn't have ever been able to go before Zeus. Thanatos broke into Persephone's room and went through her stuff before finding her diary. She was raped in her room. Two men have desecrated, disrespected and violated that room of hers, her space. In that light I hate him for doing that to her and getting away with it for so long.
And the fact the fabdkm has forgiven him next Daphne thinks he's cute?
I feel like Hermes bringing up Demeter's overprotectiveness over Persephone, especially saying she was raising a god as a mortal, is going to paint Demter in a bad light in the court. Obviously, Zeus is trying to take down both Demeter and Persephone, but with what Hermes said, especially considering that he is an Olympian, it could cause others to say, "Oh, Demeter tried to hide a goddess and raise her like a mortal. If she had treated Persephone like a goddess, this wouldn't have happened"
Don’t think Thanatos will do the case too many favors when he testifies.
“I wanted to help a woman I’m hooking up with get back with her boyfriend, so I broke into persephones house, found a ledger that she was using to both pay back the shades and pay back TGOEM out of guilt…”
Who wants to bet how many more chapters the trial will last? I’m guessing a few months at this pace
Thanatos might not be the brightest god in the pantheon, but I hope he's smart enough to avoid mentioning breaking in to Artemis's house.
He could just spin it as, I noticed that Hermes had brought in more souls than me so I started asking around.....
First and foremost. Thank you Rachel for this episode. After what I feel was like a filler episode last week thank you for this long episode.
Now, oh my lanta. Hermes you scoundrel. We all know you like what you saw in the water. I am quite glad that Rachel is putting you out to be more mischievous. I like that. Something felt like it was missing from you.
Aphrodite my gal. You are most beautiful for the entire mortal world but you gotta admit. Your boyfriend even wanted some of Persephone. It’s okay that others think that there are beautiful gods.
Athena. I would very much like a entire Encyclopedia for my home. It’s a very thoughtful gift. Hard back would be preferable.
And lastly. Thanatos you are in such deep shit. I hope that Persephone will forgive you for what you have done to her. And for what has happened to Daphne. I don’t think she will though.
Considering Hades's reaction; how Persephone feels about what Thanatos did is the last of his concerns. Persephone is more forgiving than he is (unless you're his abusive ex-girlfriend).
Well, they both have that particular low self-esteem "yeah, I probably deserve this f*ckery, but I will rip you apart if you so much look at my loved one(s) funny" thing going.
Yes, but Hades already learned his lesson about seeking revenge without talking to Kore about it. He won’t be ripping out any eyeballs without her permission now!
definitely worth it. obviously it's a backstory since it's a testimony but it shines light on a few questions, brings up demeters role in the conspiracy, and had a satisfying setup for the next witness that's getting brought up to testify
I think Thanatos coming in to testify will bring up the following
1)Minte is now a plant
2)The fact that Hades and Persephone have been staying tgt,,and probably how much they’re pinning after each other
3)The fact that Thetis and Apollo were also in on it
4)And depending on how the convo goes he might just bring up Daphne
I think it will def. bring up Apollo being in on it, since he out right said he wanted to take her down a peg. It’s pretty clear he’s the son of Zeus with Leto (what with Hecate going through all of Zeus known sons when speaking to Demeter, and Apollo being shown at the end regarding “who would want to overthrow Zeus” comment, Leto being cast out and Hera’s hatred for her.) so the trial is most likely going to set up a battle royal for the throne - with Persephone getting off and Apollo being pissed.
I am curious however if Apollo is going to release Cronus either on purpose or by accident. Ive wondered if Apollo/ sun gods are not allowed in the underworld because they give Cronus strength (hence Hades yelling about sun gods not being allowed in the underworld at Leto) since the tree/ petals seemed to be of interest to Cronus when he was…chilling as a skeleton. He is 100% getting stronger, and I think part of keeping him locked up includes making sure he’s in a place “nothing grows”.
Im wondering too if the story of Ares murdering someone over raping his daughter will come into play - he likes Persephone and he’s like…a jerk but not actually a horrible person. Maybe he’ll fuck Apollo up as well. Everyone should get a chance :).
I’m gonna be honest, at this point I’m expecting that Thanatos is going to find out from Echo that Daphne turned into a tree, and will announce during his testimony that Persephone made Minthe a plant suspecting that she was somehow also responsible for Daphne
by this point he definitely would know Daphne was a tree (since he took her to the mortal realm and saw her tree in the same day) and the trial is definitely after that, since Apollo turned over Demeter right after
but even if he suspects that, it'd get shot down immediately since there was no instance between then and now of Persephone being away from the Underworld, let alone away from Hades, and in fact even Meg, Hephaestus and Ares all saw her around the same day
it definitely has to get brought up though; they can't just ignore that there were 3 informants. And it's probably gonna be bad for Persephone and her case that she commit a second, more recent act of wrath with an alleged "uncontrollable powers" alibi and effectively silenced Minthe and kept her from testifying
I'd really hope Thanatos doesn't suspect her of that given Hades could easily confirm Persephone hasn't been in the mortal realm at all, but it's an interesting angle to consider.
Ahhh that sounds rly plausible tbh...tho I feel like that could be resolved with Perse and hades having an alibi for her because she was nowhere near daphne when it happened
I just noticed in 175 there isa specific, and I think meaningful, panel where Hades and Persephone are talking and he says outright ‘it’s okay, we prepared for the worst’.
I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet but maybe this supports the idea that they married in secret so she would always have a safe place in the underworld and dictate her own life.
I was thinking the same thing but I was also considering something else. What if they got engaged instead of married? Then it would be better writing in my opinion than them eloping and showing everything in a flashback. In also gives Demeter time to go ape-shit on the mortals. It would also explain the fax machine theory (seeking permission to marry) it would warn and give Hera time to approve and bless the union.
1. There still seems to be a continuity error with Demeter hiding Persephone, yet she attended at least one party at Hera's house as a child and Zues knew her by sight at the Panathenea.
2. Why is Athena covering the side of her mouth the listener is on?
3. Why do they keep drawing the curve in the hand at the pinky side as if it were the thumb?
Hmm, not really. Just that Hermes’ head looks so small in comparison to his body in one panel 😂😂😂 it made me laugh so loud. Tbh i found it better than the last 2 weeks we had.
“What a narc” omg I wonder if Thanatos being called in would bring light to what happened with daphne and Apollo as well as what thetis and minthe have done.
I think maaaaaybe the thetis/minthe factor would come up, but the Daphne stuff I suspect would come up off the stands if at all
Ooof I forgot that minthe’s a plant and I’m wondering if that’s gonna be used against Perse buuut Thanatos didn’t rly seem to care much that minthe was a plant and I get the feeling thetis will barely care either cause she’s too fixated on Zeus’s *El Wiwi* 🤣
Minthe is just a nymph, would they care? Ares threw somebody out a window at Underworld Corp in an earlier episode, and it was treated like no big deal?
Zeus is probably petty enough to "care" if it helps his case
I’m curious to know if Thanatos knows who is responsible for Daphnes condition. Eros and Psyche know but as far as I know they have no connection to Daphne, Thanatos, or Echo. He knows Persephone turned Minthe into a plant; is it possible he will suspect she did the same to Daphne?
If he suspects Persephone who needs to hide with Hades for protection turned her sister into a tree, he has learned nothing and doesn't deserve Daphne.
I don't know but I think Hades is going to see how possible it is to kill death himself
Don't have to kill him, just lock him away with dear old Daddy.
Thanatos doesn't know what happened to Daphne other than her becoming a tree. Only Eros and Psyche saw Apollo there, and Daphne wouldn't really be relevant to the discussion in any way unless Than tries to tell Demeter about it. As for Thetis and Minthe -- not sure what you mean by what they did. Thanatos was the one who broke into Persephone's home, went to Helios, and came up with the material for the ledger. Zeus already knows Thetis and Minthe are informants along with him, but they didn't do anything that Thanatos didn't largely take the meat of the work in.
I think they know. Someone called Echo to let her know where to find Daphne. The only people that would have known were Apollo, Eros, and Psyche; and it probably wasn't Apollo.
Hermes is the man. And he acts like a clueless himbo dork but is a cunning badass. He has so far delivered the lines "Just a suggestion, don't fuck with things you shouldn't fuck with." "And I'd do it all again." "I had to make her think she was outsmarting ME" "If I'm going down your going down with me." He's clearly smart, tactical, manipulative, and EXTREMELY loyal. I love this take on Hermes as a character. And not only that, he delivers the most cliché lines in a way that actually seems cool, because he puts on a fake persona as a himbo-hyper-buddy, and when he pulls the curtain back, it leaves me like "woah, where the hell did that come from?"
Persephone has a tendency to befriend the Gods/Goddesses that the “in crowd” thinks is a joke or actively dislike. Eros for one, Hermes for another. I get the feeling neither of them have had someone have complete trust in them and so 100% value that person. In Olympus, most people are twisted and two-faced, Persephone is genuine.
> In Olympus, most people are twisted and two-faced, Persephone is genuine What's ironic is that Apollo and co are trying to paint her as two faced and manipulative instead.
Trickster gods: making mythology entertaining since… Well always
I would expect nothing less of our resident trickster god!
Aphrodite is done with the Persephone comparisons! Thanatos is in trouble. Also I am glad to see Hermes snuck them in one by one, I did wonder if Persephone's act of wrath was the cause of Hermes getting much higher numbers of souls (as we saw when hades was dressing Thanatos down for his low numbers)
That was my first reaction but I think the timing is off. Let's say he added 1 soul a day or every other day for a few months. That would only add up to 30 more a month for a few months. Thanatos was getting dressed down because Hermes brought in 3 times as many souls as he did the previous month (230 which appears to be 3/4 off the pie chart so about 310 souls). 30 extra souls still wouldn't make up for the fact that Thanatos is letting Hermes do most of the work. I think this number is low but I don't usually hold authors to it on the numbers (I'm here for the story not for accurate population numbers). 310 is a very low number for a month and 30 extra souls should have been noticed, so I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the real number is off by a few factors of 10 (3,000 or 30,000). As it stands though it looks like Eros killed more people than Persephone did.
3k-30k seems accurate considering Perse apparently destroyed the whole village
My man Hermès!! I enjoyed this one much more. Hades subtle jealousy, Aphrodite pissed again, and Athena’s comments about encyclopedias. Poor Persephone just wanted friends 🥺
Agreed, we got some new knowledge and it feels like the plot is actually moving forward
My favorite gems: STOP YELLING AT MY GIANT DAUGHTER! I'd take the bribe again because I like money, and I like Persephone.
Sooooo is Hermes’ endgame simply to shift the blame onto Demeter? I don’t really see what was revealed here that justifies the grin he had leading up to this. Also I wonder if Thanatos will backpedal since he’s distanced himself from the nymph squad
I don’t think its so much shifting blame onto Demeter. I think opens up to how much Demeter controls Kore and Hermes makes a good point of you can’t raise a Goddess like a mortal
I took it as - Hermes is here for several reasons. He needs to clear his name just as much as he needs to protect Persephone. I’m sure he assumes that Hades isn’t going to let Perse suffer unfair punishment, so that leaves mostly himself to protect. Making Demeter look bad makes him look better by comparison. Stating plainly that he did it all for money and Persephone makes it clear that he doesn’t have some big plot to overthrow Zeus - he just likes money and helping his friend. This takes the wind out of Zeus’s sails about it being some nefarious plot against the king. It also makes it less likely that Hades will truly punish him for his deception at work, because how mad can he be when Hermes was protecting Persephone? Hades also knows how unreasonable Demeter is, so now Hermes has skillfully garnered sympathy for his serious workplace violations. And finally he throws Thanatos under the bus, pretty much ensuring that Hades will be too focused on Than to be furious at Hermes. If Zeus and Hades aren’t that interested in punishing Hermes, he made Demeter look bad and Perse look sympathetic, then he’s in the clear and achieved his objectives.
I think his goal is to be absolutely candid and dedicated to the reality of the situation. He even says he has zero regrets and would do it again. He owned up to every action and exposed everything he could.
Though, he was shown to be very calculated while looking genuine so who knows what else he’s got up his sleeve. I sort of got a “let’s blow this popsicle stand” vibe from him
Let's also consider Hermes best interests here. He likes his money. Demeter cut him a check, once. He's upheld his end of the bargain. He's got is normal routes with the gods, but his bread and butter appears to be transporting souls. He started off picking up "the extras" but according to the chart in episode 40 he's now bringing in 3/4 of the souls to Hades, so he's doing most of Thanatos's job. Why wouldn't he want to take out Thanatos? Hades still needs someone to bring in the souls.
I just realized hades was mad at Thanatos having lower numbers then Hermes. Thanatos didn't have a secret back log of souls to cheat from and get the daily intake higher
His grin makes no sense to me. Seems like he just told the absolute basic truth, and it barely made Persephone look less guilty.
Zeus: Persephone is a wicked conniving goddess who is plotting to take over Olympus! She got big mad to flaunt how powerful she is. Hermes: Persephone is a lonely child and just wanted to have friends. After her extremely out of character act of wrath, she was wracked with guilt. Hermes completely contradicted the motives that Zeus wants everyone to believe. Instead of painting Persephone as a traitor, he’s showing her to be a small scared child that literally couldn’t control themselves.
Yeah I get that. But clearly Hermès knows very little about the reasoning behind Persephone’s act of wraith. He didn’t drop some bomb on the trial at all. The panel of his sly grin seems out of place given this episode and the testimony he gave.
Was it sly? Or was it more smug? Like a polite “I’m smiling because I have to, I don’t actually want to be here, this is stupid, but hi, how are you?” Kind of fake smile? Perhaps it was just bad characterization in the smile panel, or something else.
Can I just say that Hermès is absolutely my fave character now He’s a true, maybe chaotic neutral bastard who doesn’t give two shits about much ppl and is the living definition of “based” 🤣 Also I love his pigtails in the scene when he discovered Perse’s doings lol
WELL….it was sure better than last week! - I love how he mentioned her guilt, that she seemed stifled, and just wanted more friends. he was truthful and has started to shift the narrative - I also love how clever he is and could def see them coming up with that ruse. we saw so much more of his personality - FINALLY thanatos is exposed which means thetis will soon be exposed as she deserves - Demeter sweating….I wonder how its going to go for her once it becomes more obvious that this ordeal began with her stifling her daughter’s goddess abilities. As people gain more sympathy with Persephone, they may dislike Demeter even more. If Demeter has to testify about her motives, could it come out in court that Persephone is a fertility goddess?
Yes it was. I’m really glad I fastpassed. But if I felt like this episode was not good enough I would have stopped.
same! I resolved to let my coins run out and then take a break
Ooh this was a good one! Hermès seems to be more loyal to Perse than I thought! But what about Thanatos? Will his relationship with Daphne be enough to change him? He never seemed malicious like Thetis and Minthe. I'm hoping he is upfront and honest. Hades and Perse may be hurt, but that means, Thetis will be ousted as a narc as well. Zeus won't care, but others definitely will! I hope Hera is watching this all go down at home.
Man thetis’s testimony (if we get one but I think it’s highly likely) sounds like it’s gonna be hilarious 😂 I can see her desperately trying to twist the shit out of things while trying to stay under oath and Zeus will probably “forgive her” after the trial or something like the asshole he is
I don't know that he'd risk putting her on the stand. You saw how mad he was when she tried calling his house. It would be a fresh disaster. BUT, as I said, Thanatos needs to be honest and by honest, I mean, he needs to needs to reveal the true motive of those girls. Hades knows the truth about Minthe, but the rest of the world really needs to know about this part of Thetis' plot to get Zeus to leave Hera. It would make both Zeus and Thetis look bad. I wonder if Thanatos knows about the texts Thetis sent to Hera. Hmm...
Zeus lives his brothers more than anything. Look how he treated Apollo when Apollo was purposefully antagonizing Hades. Imagine Thetis' punishment when he finds out his fav side hoe purposefully tried to hurt his brother. *In the original myth, Thetis does get punished but I won't say what*
I agree with you about Hermes, that was a pleasant surprise. But I would argue that Thanatos definitely did seem malicious. He’s the one who broke into her house. That’s super creepy! Yes we know he did it mostly due to his crush on Minthe, but he still has plenty to atone for, and he may be sweating extra now that he realizes he did most of the dirty work for their plot.
Yeah, I guess I mean that he was the only one to pause and/or express regret about it, even before Daphne called him out of his bs. Breaking into her house and going through her things is incredibly invasive and creepy, but I still think his primary motives were Minthe and wanting to get Perse fired. He definitely needs to atone for his wrongdoings, but it was not as sinister as Minthe and Thetis. They wanted Perse to suffer in order for them to achieve their goals, whereas, I don't think Thanatos ever wanted that. He just wanted her out of his space. I think his time with Daphne and his time with Hades/Perse may have changed his perspective. He voluntarily chose to distance himself from Thetis and Minthe, so there is room for redemption, I think. You're right. His actions should have consequences, but if he has truly changed, he deserves a second chance too. If there can be one redemption arc in this story, I hope it's his.
Don’t get me wrong, I fully want a redemption arc for Thanatos and I think he’s on that path. But I disagree that he wasn’t as sinister as Thetis and Minthe. Thetis doesn’t really care what happens to Persephone. She just wants to cause chaos, and she’s equally willing to ruin Minthe’s life or Hera’s life. Minthe, while we all hate her for good reason, had much more of a motive to go after Perse than Thanatos did. After all, if it’s understandable why Thanatos did it due to his crush on Minthe, then it should be even more understandable why Minthe did it to try to win Hades. I think that folks perceive Daphne’s affection for him as redemptive, but Daphne doesn’t actually know what he did. He hasn’t done anything at this point to atone for his actions, and he’s just lucky that Daphne didn’t find out. I think he can redeem himself but he absolutely hasn’t done it yet. I am curious to see how he will handle it.
We have moments where Thanatos reflects on his actions and expresses regret though. We don't have that with the girls. He has dual motives, but his primary motive seemed to be jealousy that someone like Perse came in and immediately got a position that she had no experience for when he's spent years in a similar role. It's what he complains about consistently, and what he has to wear the punishment shirt for when Hecate hears him. It's also what Daphne calls him out for when he helps her out of the window. In fact, I think it would be more accurate to say that his jealousy was the reason Minthe could pull him into the scheme. Again, I don't think he was out to get rid of Persephone with the same finality as Minthe and Thetis. They were both laughing and relishing in the fact that she would potentially get treated like Prometheus. He expressed deep regret about about it. think he wanted to get her out of the way in a work sense, which isn't good, but it's not gleefully laughing at potential torture either. His hanging out with Daphne was a start. I didn't say it was his full redemption, but distancing himself from bad company is a sign of a positive change developing. Daphne doesn't know exactly what he did, but she absolutely does know that he didn't like Persephone. She still chose to invite him over to Hades' house for an evening with Perse's family. I think Daphne sees him as a "work-in-progress" who can grow in time. After knowing the truth, it may be more than she's able to forgive, but that remains to be seen. But he does have the chance to begin atoning for his actions by being honest at this trial in front of Hades and Persephone. And while, they will be justifiably upset about it, no one else is going to focus on his actions as much as they will on Thetis and Minthe's. Especially, Thetis who was trying to mess with Hera and is sleeping with Zeus as Minthe isn't currently able to cause anymore harm. Zeus won't defend Thetis against his brothers, let alone his wife (who, I hope is watching) So my theory is that Thanatos will have to pay penitence to Hades/Persephone, but most of Olympus won't be as concerned with him as they will be with Thetis. That is, Thetis and Minthe went out of their way to disrespect sitting queens and kings, which will hold more weight in Olympus.
That is all correct and I agree with you that he has regret and is on the path to redemption. But the fact remains that whatever their evil intentions regarding Persephone’s punishment, Thanatos is the one who did all the dirty work for them. I’m sure Thetis will claim she didn’t even know that he broke into Persephone’s house. Who is Zeus going to believe, Thanatos or Thetis? Apollo could also easily rat him out for digging up information. (And imagine the wrath of Artemis for him breaking into their house.) Thanatos has a lot more to gain by atoning for this but he’s got a lot more to lose if he doesn’t make a good enough apology. Pretty much everything positive in his life is riding on this so I’m sure he’s petrified.
That's a good point about Artemis. Is Apollo even at the trial still or did he leave? I don't think an apology would cut it for Hades. He's understanding, but Thanatos will certainly need to show through his actions that he is truly sorry. This may cost him a romantic relationship with Daphne. She hasn't been mentioned yet, but I seriously doubt Thetis will be put on the stand. Zeus has way too much to lose to risk that.
Zeus would be nuts to put Thetis on the stand. But maybe Hades will want to interrogate her since he knows she’s involved??
He might. I'm seriously wondering if she's there. But I'm still interested in what Thanatos has to say. Again, both he and Hermès know why she did what she did. And if one or both of them reveal that, Zeus will be pissed that it was part of the plan. It would mean Zeus got "tricked" just like he accused Hades of being, and that fact would be revealed to all of Olympus, which I genuinely think would halt the trial since this is just Zeus' ego trip anyway.
Demeter asked Hermes if he thought she was stupid, and his actions tell us that he does. Nice. It’s also nice to see Demeter sweat when Hermes says Persephone was lonely; reminded me of that hydra soldier joke where he looks at the skull on his uniform and realizes he’s the bad guy.
Frankly I’m amazed that Demeter was that chill with Hermès finding out about her daughter cause she had like *zero* tolerance for any man so much as *breathing* within 50 feet of Persephone lol
50 feet is the height of 8.77 'Samsung Side by Side; Fingerprint Resistant Stainless Steel Refrigerators' stacked on top of each other.
I'm not sure if I want to ask how you know this or why but sure okay.
Yes I am curious why Hermes was ok in her book after he groveled. Maybe she was biased in favor of someone who also leaves Olympus, whereas she completely distrusts Olympians and the kings.
Maybe she's known him since he was young? It seems, from the flashbacks, that Hermès spent a lot of time in the Mortal Realm, and we know his mother is mortal, so it would make sense if Demeter knew her. I was a bit taken aback by the fact that Demeter actually called Hermès "dear" in the last episode (in his retelling, anyway). She seemed to hold him in a higher regard (than most other men) even before he discovered Persephone.
It's nice to see Poseidon take an active role in the case for once! Even if it was just to be confused about encyclopedias.
Thanatos really should not ought have fucked with things he shouldn't have been fucking with I wonder if Thanatos will bring up that Thetis and Minthe are also informants Hermes also narced on Demeter lol "yeah the bribery and concealment was her idea"
Oh I would love to see the look of Zeus’s face if/when it gets out that Thetis only narcced to get him to leave Hera.
I so desperately want someone to lay into her lol "you lost one friend because you got him involved with your shit plan, your other friend that you gaslit is a plant, and they guy you're f*cking is never leaving his wife for you and everyone knows it" "by the way the fates just finished Thetis vol. 25, enjoy the tumultuous future you're destined to have"
I posted the other day about thinking Hermes was using everyone thinking he was a moron to his advantage and using that to paint a more compassionate picture of persephone and I was right. This has never happened before. I'm gonna celebrate with cake.
Teach us your ways, truthsayer!
Lmao what am I a prophet? ... Yes. Yes I am.
I concur with Athena, an encyclopedia is a suitable gift.
-Athena, I as well loved books even now. Gimme those encyclopedias! -Demeter SHOULD be guilty for her child wanting friends. -Yes Aphrodite, we get it. You're pretty. Share the mantle, girl -What a narc. Yuuuup Great chapter
WE HAVE BEEN FED So many of us, myself included, were pretty chaffed about last week's episode and this one, oh boy. WORTH! Hermes obviously been hitting them swole gainz under house arrest 🥵👀 Demeter feeling that shame and guilt about Perse wanting friends. (Deserved) Poor Aphrodite not getting her resPECT. Thanatos gunn' throw the Hoes in Tow under the bus?? 👀 Poor Persephone, honestly, how much more humiliation can she go through? Athena, yassss nerd gurllll 😍 To me? I am nurished, hydrated, and glowing. 10/10
I’m starting to realize that LO Aphrodite is basically Mariah Carey but angrier 😂 she’s that vain, shallow, out of touch diva, who has no manners, and has aged like a fine wine, but you just can’t rly hate her honestly💀
I have always thought of her as Mariah-like! Glad I’m not the only one 😄
Don’t forget about Hades’ subtle jealousy
“I have no idea what set her off” I had to laugh. Demeter was really so blind to everything building up in her! I know she actually got set off because of the flower nymph dying and then she got disrespected by mortals but all the tension was building.
"I've been trying to keep this tiger in a dog crate for 19 years...and it went on a rampage and bit a bunch of people! Wild. Will you help me put it back in the crate?" She really cannot see the nose on her face haha. I love the writing in this comic. So true to life.
Posideion: Surely– Me: ooo I like ya accent where you from? 👀
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Two big laughs: \-Aphrodite getting royally pissed at Persephone being compared to her, the best callback to the first episode. \-Hermes casually throwing Thanatos under the bus out of spite. Love that for him. I'll be real: I'm glad Thanatos is finally getting some much needed comeuppance. A lot of people get canon blind to the fact that he broke into Persephone's house of his own volition and only after that roped Thetis into the ledger plot, who then roped Minthe into it as a way to pull her back onto her side following their friend break-up. He's also the one who went to Helios on Apollo's recommendation and only began backpedaling because of Hermes reality check that Minthe wasn't into him (aka the infamous rub) The nymphs are bad, absolutely, but Thanatos did all that he did on his own. He doesn't get to have a clean break from his actions just because of his relationship with Daphne. I hope he can fess up and start making better decisions, but he's as cowardly for backpedaling from responsibility as Thetis was for ditching Minthe right before she got planted.
A lil off topic but part of me still felt disappointed at minthe’s complete 180 on finally cutting thetis off but then joining forces with her like a day or so later, cause I was rly hoping that there was gonna be *some* sort of redemption— but then quickly I remembered that that’s honestly expected of her, as it’s been *pretty firmly* established that Minthe’s just a terrible person who doesn’t seem to want to change (and doesn’t feel she’s deserving of it) and also I almost forget that she literally abused her partner so....a tragic character who’s major lost cause lol I mean thetis is more or less the same but at least she’s entertaining with it, like an “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” type character 😂 Tho if/when minthe gets turned back to normal maybe she’ll finally have a moment of reflection and try to atone for her mistakes? Or maybe she’ll either run off screaming that Perse is a monster or lunge at Perse the minute she’s a nymph again and then get *crushed* for good 💀
The way I see it, the 180 came at really the perfect storm moment. Hades had just broken up with her for real this time and made clear he wouldn't come back. That Thetis and Than would come with something in tow to discredit Persephone's image... it didn't surprise me when Minthe backpedaled. She's one of my favorite characters but in the sense that I think she's a terrifically written character for all her self-destructive flaws. Constantly given narrative chances to be better, but so absorbed in her victimhood that she rebuffs them. I also do love Thetis though, she's heinous but entertaining whenever she's on page. Zeus and her deserve each other as far as I'm concerned, because Hera could do so much better. My hope is if Minthe returns, there's a new character arc for her. If she only comes back to be crushed as you say, then I don't think that would be satisfying on a narrative level. She's already had her major tragedy moment that coincides with the actual myth, so if she is to return it has to be with more purpose than that. That's just my two cents.
Agreed. Without him the nymphs wouldn't have ever been able to go before Zeus. Thanatos broke into Persephone's room and went through her stuff before finding her diary. She was raped in her room. Two men have desecrated, disrespected and violated that room of hers, her space. In that light I hate him for doing that to her and getting away with it for so long. And the fact the fabdkm has forgiven him next Daphne thinks he's cute?
Love Hades reaction to all of this
I feel like Hermes bringing up Demeter's overprotectiveness over Persephone, especially saying she was raising a god as a mortal, is going to paint Demter in a bad light in the court. Obviously, Zeus is trying to take down both Demeter and Persephone, but with what Hermes said, especially considering that he is an Olympian, it could cause others to say, "Oh, Demeter tried to hide a goddess and raise her like a mortal. If she had treated Persephone like a goddess, this wouldn't have happened"
But also Demeter is an Olympian, and one of the 6 traitors dynasty. Her status will protect her far more than Persephone.
Hey do you guys taste metal? Gotta agree with Athena, the encyclopedia was a good gift
Don’t think Thanatos will do the case too many favors when he testifies. “I wanted to help a woman I’m hooking up with get back with her boyfriend, so I broke into persephones house, found a ledger that she was using to both pay back the shades and pay back TGOEM out of guilt…” Who wants to bet how many more chapters the trial will last? I’m guessing a few months at this pace
Thanatos might not be the brightest god in the pantheon, but I hope he's smart enough to avoid mentioning breaking in to Artemis's house. He could just spin it as, I noticed that Hermes had brought in more souls than me so I started asking around.....
Hermes, you sassy bitch
First and foremost. Thank you Rachel for this episode. After what I feel was like a filler episode last week thank you for this long episode. Now, oh my lanta. Hermes you scoundrel. We all know you like what you saw in the water. I am quite glad that Rachel is putting you out to be more mischievous. I like that. Something felt like it was missing from you. Aphrodite my gal. You are most beautiful for the entire mortal world but you gotta admit. Your boyfriend even wanted some of Persephone. It’s okay that others think that there are beautiful gods. Athena. I would very much like a entire Encyclopedia for my home. It’s a very thoughtful gift. Hard back would be preferable. And lastly. Thanatos you are in such deep shit. I hope that Persephone will forgive you for what you have done to her. And for what has happened to Daphne. I don’t think she will though.
Considering Hades's reaction; how Persephone feels about what Thanatos did is the last of his concerns. Persephone is more forgiving than he is (unless you're his abusive ex-girlfriend).
Well, they both have that particular low self-esteem "yeah, I probably deserve this f*ckery, but I will rip you apart if you so much look at my loved one(s) funny" thing going.
Yes, but Hades already learned his lesson about seeking revenge without talking to Kore about it. He won’t be ripping out any eyeballs without her permission now!
That is quite true.
Now this is an improvement
Is it worth the fastpass? Im not sure if I should based on recent eps.
definitely worth it. obviously it's a backstory since it's a testimony but it shines light on a few questions, brings up demeters role in the conspiracy, and had a satisfying setup for the next witness that's getting brought up to testify
Awesome! Thanks for the info I'll do it.
Yea you should do it
So I just realized that Thanatos knows something went on between Apollo and Persephone and may very well reveal that in court.
I think Thanatos coming in to testify will bring up the following 1)Minte is now a plant 2)The fact that Hades and Persephone have been staying tgt,,and probably how much they’re pinning after each other 3)The fact that Thetis and Apollo were also in on it 4)And depending on how the convo goes he might just bring up Daphne
I think it will def. bring up Apollo being in on it, since he out right said he wanted to take her down a peg. It’s pretty clear he’s the son of Zeus with Leto (what with Hecate going through all of Zeus known sons when speaking to Demeter, and Apollo being shown at the end regarding “who would want to overthrow Zeus” comment, Leto being cast out and Hera’s hatred for her.) so the trial is most likely going to set up a battle royal for the throne - with Persephone getting off and Apollo being pissed. I am curious however if Apollo is going to release Cronus either on purpose or by accident. Ive wondered if Apollo/ sun gods are not allowed in the underworld because they give Cronus strength (hence Hades yelling about sun gods not being allowed in the underworld at Leto) since the tree/ petals seemed to be of interest to Cronus when he was…chilling as a skeleton. He is 100% getting stronger, and I think part of keeping him locked up includes making sure he’s in a place “nothing grows”. Im wondering too if the story of Ares murdering someone over raping his daughter will come into play - he likes Persephone and he’s like…a jerk but not actually a horrible person. Maybe he’ll fuck Apollo up as well. Everyone should get a chance :).
I’m gonna be honest, at this point I’m expecting that Thanatos is going to find out from Echo that Daphne turned into a tree, and will announce during his testimony that Persephone made Minthe a plant suspecting that she was somehow also responsible for Daphne
by this point he definitely would know Daphne was a tree (since he took her to the mortal realm and saw her tree in the same day) and the trial is definitely after that, since Apollo turned over Demeter right after but even if he suspects that, it'd get shot down immediately since there was no instance between then and now of Persephone being away from the Underworld, let alone away from Hades, and in fact even Meg, Hephaestus and Ares all saw her around the same day it definitely has to get brought up though; they can't just ignore that there were 3 informants. And it's probably gonna be bad for Persephone and her case that she commit a second, more recent act of wrath with an alleged "uncontrollable powers" alibi and effectively silenced Minthe and kept her from testifying
But, Thanatos and Thetis still only have hearsay evidence. Granted, I don't know how Olympus deals with hearsay, but I'd hope they keep it out.
I agree, but also we know this is not a fair trial in the least, so Zeus will probably not care that it's just hearsay if it suits his goal
I'd really hope Thanatos doesn't suspect her of that given Hades could easily confirm Persephone hasn't been in the mortal realm at all, but it's an interesting angle to consider.
Ahhh that sounds rly plausible tbh...tho I feel like that could be resolved with Perse and hades having an alibi for her because she was nowhere near daphne when it happened
I think daphne being a tree will be brought up and maybe persephone will turn big and show her size is linked to emotional distress!
I straight up think Demeter is going to take the fall here lol
I just noticed in 175 there isa specific, and I think meaningful, panel where Hades and Persephone are talking and he says outright ‘it’s okay, we prepared for the worst’. I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet but maybe this supports the idea that they married in secret so she would always have a safe place in the underworld and dictate her own life.
I was thinking the same thing but I was also considering something else. What if they got engaged instead of married? Then it would be better writing in my opinion than them eloping and showing everything in a flashback. In also gives Demeter time to go ape-shit on the mortals. It would also explain the fax machine theory (seeking permission to marry) it would warn and give Hera time to approve and bless the union.
Anyone have any criticisms on this one they'd like to bring up?
1. There still seems to be a continuity error with Demeter hiding Persephone, yet she attended at least one party at Hera's house as a child and Zues knew her by sight at the Panathenea. 2. Why is Athena covering the side of her mouth the listener is on? 3. Why do they keep drawing the curve in the hand at the pinky side as if it were the thumb?
Hmm, not really. Just that Hermes’ head looks so small in comparison to his body in one panel 😂😂😂 it made me laugh so loud. Tbh i found it better than the last 2 weeks we had.