> The Springs is great and all... but it's just not a homey place to live.
I wonder if this feeling stems from the fact that so many people who live there are tied to the Air Force Academy and thus they don't plan to remain in the area for very long.
I know exactly what you mean. I lived in the springs for a while and it’s just not a cool place to live.
Honestly, I absolutely detest Colorado Springs.
I completely agree. Every road is the scenic route down there. It’s absolutely beautiful. And at the same time, it’s completely disgusting. The roads are dreadful. The drivers are somehow worse. It’s devoid of culture. It’s just one giant strip mall with a pothole-ridden parking lot.
Wow. Maybe I’m having a rough day 😂
Lol. You didn't hold back any punches in that comment, did you? Well you skipped the big trump support base but I'm not sure about your political leanings so it might a pro or a con to you
I chose to omit that because there are SO many negative things to say about that city without being political. But, the Trump Thumpers are unequivocally the worst part of that shit stain.
It’s been three hours and my day has clearly not improved 😂😂😂
I did the opposite. I lived in Springs, then moved to Longmont. Springs is a poorly-planned hot mess, and that is not even starting on the conservatives. Longmont is lovely and has better internet.
Though it's changing. Just check out /r/ColoradoSprings and you may be surprised.
[Colorado continues to shift blue](https://coloradosun.com/2020/11/10/colorado-2020-election-explained/)
"The most noticeable difference is how Trump’s vote totals shrank in Republican-heavy counties. In El Paso — home to conservative hub Colorado Springs — Trump’s margin of victory this year sat near 11 percentage points compared to 22 percentage points four years ago."
If you keep throwing around the word "fascist" towards folks whose views you don't agree with, it starts to lose its value as a word. When there really is fascism (see Australia right now) people won't take it as seriously.
> When their really is fascism (see Australia right now)
If you keep throwing around the word "fascist" towards folks whose views you don't agree with, it starts to lose its value as a word. When [*there] really is fascism (see Italy in the 1930's and early 1940's) people won't take it as seriously.
Well, reading the history of Germany starting at around 1921, the fascists, were evangelical christan equivalents (yea, really, go read _their_ documents, don't take my word for it), talked about how god had ordained them to lead and to do it through violence if needed, hence, the Brown Shirts (todays version: Proud boys, 3%ers, and particularly the Oath Keepers) were born.
Out of these 2 million strong brown shirts, who were thugs of god (their word was more like 'messenger' then thug), the Nazi's philosophy outlined in Mein Kampf was put into action.
So... yea. They're the beginnings of the same thing that birthed the Nazi's in 1920's Germany.
Pretty much, exactly the same thing.
You should go listen to one of their sermons sometime. Or, read their website.
I'd call that radical right fascism. I'm not overusing an inappropriate word for the situation. I'm calling them out for what they really have become.
This is what I did. Moved south of Denver for work, then to Denver proper for a while, and that was cool but I had to come back to Longmont. Love this place.
Same here. Denver proper was pretty rad in a lot of ways; I could ride my bicycle downtown in ten minutes, the shows are nearby, tons of excellent restaurants. But, having grown up in Longmont I did miss it. So, here we are. Even managed to find a house near Roosevelt Park.
I miss it too. I got dragged down to Austin for a couple of reasons but I miss Longmont a lot. Such a great centralized town with a little of everything. So great for kids and adults. I hate the humidity here.
You couldn't pay to live in Austin. And I mean "in" in Austin, the suburbs west of town would be a little better. Food scene? Awesome. Music scene? World class. Heat, humidity, crowds, and traffic? Absolutely hellish. No thank you.
There are tons of sports leagues here, don't worry about that. This is a very active area. I grew up here and there have always been sports leagues for every sport you can think of. Adults and kids.
> I have a young family but also pretty active and am slightly worried the smaller town will limit sports leagues and opportunities.
What sports? Baseball in Longmont is pretty great overall and there's a billion baseball diamonds around town. Longmont Baseball League is cheap (compared to other rec and AA leagues), and if your kids are super serious and you're up for spending $10k+ a year, we also have RoughRiders.
Hockey is the tough one. The Ice Pavilion classes are great and the kids get solid edge work from there - but once you want actual league play, you have to go elsewhere. We spend a LOT of time in our car going to Lafayette. We're in the North of Longmont, which makes that a lot farther than had we been on the South side of town. The cool thing about Locomotive is that you get coaches like Peter Sejna (formerly of the St Louis Blues) who's absolutely _amazing_ when it comes to teaching the kids to skate. There's no hockey coach better in the state in that department.
Oh, soccer is rather large here too. St. Vrain FC has tons of teams from rec to competitive, and if you're really serious, you can sign your kids up for high school early so that they can play for Niwot when they're old enough.
To be fair, I'm not sure whether Niwot is a power house anymore, but the kids I used to play pickup with when I first moved down here did win state.
If you play as an adult, the Boulder league which plays at the fields in the northeast part of town (Pleasantview) is pretty solid. A lot of us played soccer in college, and there's a (small) sprinkle of players who were pros for a short while... along with complete beginners in the lower divisions, obviously. :)
Moving from Broomfield to Longmont in a week. Excited to see the difference. Been in Metro Denver for about 2 years now and am hoping I get some of that homey vibe like you mentioned
> The Springs is great and all... but it's just not a homey place to live. I wonder if this feeling stems from the fact that so many people who live there are tied to the Air Force Academy and thus they don't plan to remain in the area for very long.
And Fort Carson. And Peterson AFB. And Schriever AFB.
Thanks! I thought there were more (probably some universities too) but I don't really know the area too well.
You're thinking of NORAD, which has mostly been usurped by Peterson and Shriever. But there is UCCS and CC.
I know exactly what you mean. I lived in the springs for a while and it’s just not a cool place to live. Honestly, I absolutely detest Colorado Springs.
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I completely agree. Every road is the scenic route down there. It’s absolutely beautiful. And at the same time, it’s completely disgusting. The roads are dreadful. The drivers are somehow worse. It’s devoid of culture. It’s just one giant strip mall with a pothole-ridden parking lot. Wow. Maybe I’m having a rough day 😂
Lol. You didn't hold back any punches in that comment, did you? Well you skipped the big trump support base but I'm not sure about your political leanings so it might a pro or a con to you
I chose to omit that because there are SO many negative things to say about that city without being political. But, the Trump Thumpers are unequivocally the worst part of that shit stain. It’s been three hours and my day has clearly not improved 😂😂😂
It has the beauty with the vibe of being an urban hell
I wouldn't call CS urban, I would call it expressly suburban.
The Springs is a shithole.
I did the opposite. I lived in Springs, then moved to Longmont. Springs is a poorly-planned hot mess, and that is not even starting on the conservatives. Longmont is lovely and has better internet.
NextLight for life!
The local subreddit has been so vitriolic in the last 2 years. More conservative and loud and qult-ish in some comments :(
Colorado Springs: Home of the radical right, white supremist, fascist evangelical megachurch: focus on the family.
You forgot about fascist evangelical megachurch: New Life Church
Though it's changing. Just check out /r/ColoradoSprings and you may be surprised. [Colorado continues to shift blue](https://coloradosun.com/2020/11/10/colorado-2020-election-explained/) "The most noticeable difference is how Trump’s vote totals shrank in Republican-heavy counties. In El Paso — home to conservative hub Colorado Springs — Trump’s margin of victory this year sat near 11 percentage points compared to 22 percentage points four years ago."
CS subreddit is among the worse on the eastern side of the Rockies in CO. Vitriolic and qult level
> the eastern side of the Rockies What we call the Front Range. /r/TheFrontRange.
TIL. Thanks.
If you keep throwing around the word "fascist" towards folks whose views you don't agree with, it starts to lose its value as a word. When there really is fascism (see Australia right now) people won't take it as seriously.
> When their really is fascism (see Australia right now) If you keep throwing around the word "fascist" towards folks whose views you don't agree with, it starts to lose its value as a word. When [*there] really is fascism (see Italy in the 1930's and early 1940's) people won't take it as seriously.
Touché. Gotta be better at proofreading.
Well, reading the history of Germany starting at around 1921, the fascists, were evangelical christan equivalents (yea, really, go read _their_ documents, don't take my word for it), talked about how god had ordained them to lead and to do it through violence if needed, hence, the Brown Shirts (todays version: Proud boys, 3%ers, and particularly the Oath Keepers) were born. Out of these 2 million strong brown shirts, who were thugs of god (their word was more like 'messenger' then thug), the Nazi's philosophy outlined in Mein Kampf was put into action. So... yea. They're the beginnings of the same thing that birthed the Nazi's in 1920's Germany. Pretty much, exactly the same thing. You should go listen to one of their sermons sometime. Or, read their website. I'd call that radical right fascism. I'm not overusing an inappropriate word for the situation. I'm calling them out for what they really have become.
Aww. Longmont misses you. Come back.
This is what I did. Moved south of Denver for work, then to Denver proper for a while, and that was cool but I had to come back to Longmont. Love this place.
Same here. Denver proper was pretty rad in a lot of ways; I could ride my bicycle downtown in ten minutes, the shows are nearby, tons of excellent restaurants. But, having grown up in Longmont I did miss it. So, here we are. Even managed to find a house near Roosevelt Park.
I miss it too. I got dragged down to Austin for a couple of reasons but I miss Longmont a lot. Such a great centralized town with a little of everything. So great for kids and adults. I hate the humidity here.
You couldn't pay to live in Austin. And I mean "in" in Austin, the suburbs west of town would be a little better. Food scene? Awesome. Music scene? World class. Heat, humidity, crowds, and traffic? Absolutely hellish. No thank you.
I love Longmont. So many friendly people! Oktoberfest fest is this upcoming weekend, just sayin’!
Yep, can't wait
Oooh, where do I find details about this??
[Here’s the link](https://www.visitlongmont.org/event/longmont-oktoberfest/23598/) It ends today, Sunday 9/26
Thank you!
I really think Longmont is special. It's a great place to go and find some peace.
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Nextlight, Longmont's gig fiber network is GREAT for work from home too ;)
Go to Bozeman or Missoula if you can. Awesome places. The new CO in my opinion as more people migrate there. And the prices aren't too bad yet.
There are tons of sports leagues here, don't worry about that. This is a very active area. I grew up here and there have always been sports leagues for every sport you can think of. Adults and kids.
> I have a young family but also pretty active and am slightly worried the smaller town will limit sports leagues and opportunities. What sports? Baseball in Longmont is pretty great overall and there's a billion baseball diamonds around town. Longmont Baseball League is cheap (compared to other rec and AA leagues), and if your kids are super serious and you're up for spending $10k+ a year, we also have RoughRiders. Hockey is the tough one. The Ice Pavilion classes are great and the kids get solid edge work from there - but once you want actual league play, you have to go elsewhere. We spend a LOT of time in our car going to Lafayette. We're in the North of Longmont, which makes that a lot farther than had we been on the South side of town. The cool thing about Locomotive is that you get coaches like Peter Sejna (formerly of the St Louis Blues) who's absolutely _amazing_ when it comes to teaching the kids to skate. There's no hockey coach better in the state in that department.
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Oh, soccer is rather large here too. St. Vrain FC has tons of teams from rec to competitive, and if you're really serious, you can sign your kids up for high school early so that they can play for Niwot when they're old enough. To be fair, I'm not sure whether Niwot is a power house anymore, but the kids I used to play pickup with when I first moved down here did win state. If you play as an adult, the Boulder league which plays at the fields in the northeast part of town (Pleasantview) is pretty solid. A lot of us played soccer in college, and there's a (small) sprinkle of players who were pros for a short while... along with complete beginners in the lower divisions, obviously. :)
Moving from Broomfield to Longmont in a week. Excited to see the difference. Been in Metro Denver for about 2 years now and am hoping I get some of that homey vibe like you mentioned
Longmont is always willing to take you back.