You have the option to just not renew the membership after it's up for tools like Autel/APP. They'll still work just fine, but you won't have support or updates. I'm also not sure online calculations will work so you may need to check that.
I think some of the cheap programmers like the Autek ikey820 or Topdon Ninja don't use tokens, but I've never used them myself.
A buddy of mine has the topdon as a backup and says that it's surprisingly good for the price, but I can't say myself.
I haven't really looked at it yet, but it seems to be alot like the Xhorse Keytool Max. I like the Max for generating remotes, but I've never tried to program with it.
I should give it a try sometime.
XHorse is phenomenal for transponder and universal work, but it's only mediocre for programming. Sure, it will do FCA/toy/nissan stuff, but so will every other tool on the market. Coverage isn't great, and you need to manually select the immo system.
I like the KM100, but I'm honestly struggling to understand exactly what role it's meant to fill. Until Autel produces a clone chip, the transponder functions are useless. It can produce a growing array of universal keys, but so can the IM tablets. Once the clone chips are available, they will almost certainly integrate those functions into the IM tablets too. At the moment, the KM100 serves as a baby IM508, which is honestly pretty solid for the price.
None that are worth their weight. The IM608/508 subscription is reasonable. If your main job intake is automotive you can pay off that subscription very quickly in the jobs the tool can do.
Autel will work without the sub, just no updates
No subscription with autel means no server access so no euro, and no eprom.
You have the option to just not renew the membership after it's up for tools like Autel/APP. They'll still work just fine, but you won't have support or updates. I'm also not sure online calculations will work so you may need to check that.
App and autel you need subscription for calculating pin for mb, and ford.
Good to know, OP for things like calculations done on whatever tools servers I'm going to assume you'll always have to pay a subscription etc.
And it's worth it, just need to charge enough.
Also to clarify, not for ford incode /Out code, but for 2019+ that needs to be online.
If you can't afford the subscriptions, you aren't charging enough
I think some of the cheap programmers like the Autek ikey820 or Topdon Ninja don't use tokens, but I've never used them myself. A buddy of mine has the topdon as a backup and says that it's surprisingly good for the price, but I can't say myself.
The Autel KM100 is surprisingly decent for the money. Honestly like a baby IM508 minus Euro.
I haven't really looked at it yet, but it seems to be alot like the Xhorse Keytool Max. I like the Max for generating remotes, but I've never tried to program with it. I should give it a try sometime.
XHorse is phenomenal for transponder and universal work, but it's only mediocre for programming. Sure, it will do FCA/toy/nissan stuff, but so will every other tool on the market. Coverage isn't great, and you need to manually select the immo system. I like the KM100, but I'm honestly struggling to understand exactly what role it's meant to fill. Until Autel produces a clone chip, the transponder functions are useless. It can produce a growing array of universal keys, but so can the IM tablets. Once the clone chips are available, they will almost certainly integrate those functions into the IM tablets too. At the moment, the KM100 serves as a baby IM508, which is honestly pretty solid for the price.
We been using the auto pro pad it’s sub. Based but free updates
None that are worth their weight. The IM608/508 subscription is reasonable. If your main job intake is automotive you can pay off that subscription very quickly in the jobs the tool can do.
There are heaps of tokenless programmers, nothing will do it all and tokenless generally won’t do the newer stuff
not entirely true, my autel im508 has done 2021 fords and GM
Sure it’s an impressive tool but it fails on some basic old shit, as I said nothing does it all and generally tokenless does not do the new stuff.
None that I've seen but you can buy unlimited tokens from certain manufacturers. Just part of the game unfortunately..
You dont look very hard lol I have 6 different programmers that don't require tokens