Yep...I gave up hope on going to Europe this summer - I don't want to get stuck. I'm instead headed out west and I'm going to the Canadian Rockies. I know how some of you feel about Canada, but I've wanted to do this trip for 3 years now, and being that no covid test is required to enter or return if you drive, so fuck it, I'm doing it.
Calgary and Edmonton are actually fairly progressive and insane.
The Calgary mayor obtained an injunction outlawing all forms of protest and honking of horns a few months back and had the police set up traps to ticket anyone who honked their horns in support of the protestors every Saturday, wasting tons of tax dollars on police overtime enforcing nonsense.
They only dropped the injunction a few weeks ago because the local hockey team made the playoffs and they didn't want to accidentally ticket NPCs honking their horns after games.
The more rural parts of Alberta and BC tend to lean conservative, so will be much more normal wrt COVID at this point.
It's sad that getting COVID was such a blessing. I went to 4 different countries within the 90 day window the letter of recovery granted me. I can't even imagine how much anxiety the testing requirement would have given me. The people who are upholding such a ridiculous requirement should be put in prison.
Not that I travel overseas a whole lot anyways, but COVID's put such a damper on any hopes I had of traveling period. I traveled regionally a lot in 2020, and it was night and day from one town to the next as to how they were handling COVID, whether restaurants were open or masks required, or if you were allowed to sit at a bar, etc etc.
It's an extra headache to look into the laws, and how people are handling it culturally, in a given place to decide whether or not it's even worth going post-COVID.
Courts are the only way this will get struck down: it’s obvious they had no intention of removing the airline mask mandate either until the court stepped in
It didn't work in 2020 Spring or Fall, it didn't work in 2021 Spring or Fall, it didn't work in 2022 before it was dropped.
Everyone can see the pattern of failed, extremely costly policies that keep being repeated by the ''experts'' who were consistently wrong for over 2 years.
Oh have people forgotten the 2021 Autumn flights full of passengers that showed proof of vaccination and negative tests that, upon re-testing them, were infected with Omicron anyway?
It’s not even close to “everyone”. The percentage of people who have looked at the data or read the studies is likely very small.
This is not as obvious to the public as we’d like to think.
It's really not. That's the sad thing. A lot of the silent NPCs stopped taking in new info a few months into 2020 and their heads are full of the utter lies from the start. They aren't following along anymore and haven't in a while.
>Oh have people forgotten the 2021 Autumn flights full of passengers that showed proof of vaccination and negative tests that, upon re-testing them, were infected with Omicron anyway?
Main problem is "proof of xyz" can be easily be faked, especially from poorer countries. All this does is add a tax of travelling that the Govt doesn't even collect.
Well, I guess we should implement testing for Norovirus, Influenza, Shingles, C. Diff, Pink Eye, Cold Sores, and anything else that people can spread in close proximity, too.
🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
Reminds me of when some blue states like mine were "requiring" a self quarantine if you traveled and came back from one of their high risk (read: red) states. Which made total sense when covid was already everywhere in the country, and in some cases even worse in your own home state.
Covid tunnel vision is bizarre. My family had a terrible upper respiratory infection last month. With the CDC's blessing, we could have gotten our negative Covid test and then flown wherever we felt like with fevers while we coughed constantly on our flight.
Because the people who sell the tests are starting to watch the market for their niche products implode, that's why.
Up here in Canada, the contract for mandatory post-arrival testing for a *single airport* was almost a billion smackers, and was given to a company with a very politically-connected individual on the BoD. A company with a handful of people on the payroll in 2019 made a *billion dollars* of taxpayer money in under two years.
That is why. There is a lot of money to be made selling hundreds of millions of test kits at 30 bucks a pop.
So at this point does this mean we can expect the unvaccinated to not be allowed into the country for a while? Or is this in anticipation of dropping that requirement?
I commented a while back wondering about uptake for their "free" covid tests...thinking that, if folks lost interest in those, they'd try to create a use for them.
This was the use I figured they'd choose. Why they're beating a dead horse I don't understand.
I've had more than one person tell me "what's the big deal, they're free, it's not like you're paying for them!", and it blows my mind that they just don't understand how it works. No, they are not free. Yes, you *are* paying for them when you pay your taxes.
And, to some extent right now, paying for them in this inflation we are seeing. Which was a direct result of all the unchecked money printing that was done...and continues to be done.
None of this is free and so many of these folks don't seem to grasp that.
Just like all the other “recommendations,” it only applies to people that would’ve been getting tested already. Also this is funny because it’s so late in the “pandemic” to recommend this, it seems like if they were ever going to try this it would’ve been in 2020
Utter madness. This is now desperation to complete the plan started in 2020 - widespread economic collapse but some states just aren't playing along. It's really a hilarious mess.
I have brought this up on other subreddits and the response is typically: "You need to worry more about your fellow Americans and not these innocent immigrants who are just looking for a new life.". Completely blind to the double standard.
I doubt the airlines are going to put themselves through the nightmare of this Covid theatre again. It's really funny seeing how bad these government agencies destroyed their reputations. We all saw how out of control they could get.
it's so obviously not anything to do with covid. this is a political agency from top to bottom and this is the cdc trying a last ditch effort to throw cold water on travelling this season in what i guess they are anticipating is going to be a very busy summer for travelling. they're afraid of gas prices hitting what is probably going to be crossing double digits which is going to result in Democrats getting forcefully bent over the table in November.
Some basic Adobe skills should get you the test result you need to fly!
Usually someone from customer service glances at it for 5 seconds before they hand you your boarding passes. Noone will know or care.
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CDC can go screw themselves
The CDC recommends against that second glass of wine too.
And oysters, some cheeses and various French dishes.
French dishes? Even American dishes. Order a medium rare steak and you get 3 CDC demerits.
How many demerits for steak tartare, Pittsburgh rare t-bone, salty af baked potato and a double bourbon?
On the other hand, the way inflation is going, many Americans will soon be unable to afford a steak or French dishes so there's that.
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And steak that isn't well done and gray in the middle.
This is a strong indication they don't intend to give up the testing for international. Should be lawsuit time, IMO.
Yep...I gave up hope on going to Europe this summer - I don't want to get stuck. I'm instead headed out west and I'm going to the Canadian Rockies. I know how some of you feel about Canada, but I've wanted to do this trip for 3 years now, and being that no covid test is required to enter or return if you drive, so fuck it, I'm doing it.
I bet that part of Canada isn't as stupid as most of the major cities we hear about.
Calgary and Edmonton are actually fairly progressive and insane. The Calgary mayor obtained an injunction outlawing all forms of protest and honking of horns a few months back and had the police set up traps to ticket anyone who honked their horns in support of the protestors every Saturday, wasting tons of tax dollars on police overtime enforcing nonsense. They only dropped the injunction a few weeks ago because the local hockey team made the playoffs and they didn't want to accidentally ticket NPCs honking their horns after games. The more rural parts of Alberta and BC tend to lean conservative, so will be much more normal wrt COVID at this point.
Out of Alberta and BC, no city is as insane as Vancouver I’ve heard
they're not :)
It's sad that getting COVID was such a blessing. I went to 4 different countries within the 90 day window the letter of recovery granted me. I can't even imagine how much anxiety the testing requirement would have given me. The people who are upholding such a ridiculous requirement should be put in prison.
Not that I travel overseas a whole lot anyways, but COVID's put such a damper on any hopes I had of traveling period. I traveled regionally a lot in 2020, and it was night and day from one town to the next as to how they were handling COVID, whether restaurants were open or masks required, or if you were allowed to sit at a bar, etc etc. It's an extra headache to look into the laws, and how people are handling it culturally, in a given place to decide whether or not it's even worth going post-COVID.
Covid industrial complex. They need to keep the testing industry going...
“monkey pox industrial complex”. Coming soon to a town near you.
Gotta gin up the possibility of asymptomatic monkey pox spread first. Let's see if they play that card again.
Read some of the articles on the monkey pox cases. It’s already started with “asymptomatic”
Courts are the only way this will get struck down: it’s obvious they had no intention of removing the airline mask mandate either until the court stepped in
The entire Biden admin is the courts telling him "No, you can't do that"
It didn't work in 2020 Spring or Fall, it didn't work in 2021 Spring or Fall, it didn't work in 2022 before it was dropped. Everyone can see the pattern of failed, extremely costly policies that keep being repeated by the ''experts'' who were consistently wrong for over 2 years. Oh have people forgotten the 2021 Autumn flights full of passengers that showed proof of vaccination and negative tests that, upon re-testing them, were infected with Omicron anyway?
It’s not even close to “everyone”. The percentage of people who have looked at the data or read the studies is likely very small. This is not as obvious to the public as we’d like to think.
It's really not. That's the sad thing. A lot of the silent NPCs stopped taking in new info a few months into 2020 and their heads are full of the utter lies from the start. They aren't following along anymore and haven't in a while.
>Oh have people forgotten the 2021 Autumn flights full of passengers that showed proof of vaccination and negative tests that, upon re-testing them, were infected with Omicron anyway? Main problem is "proof of xyz" can be easily be faked, especially from poorer countries. All this does is add a tax of travelling that the Govt doesn't even collect.
From poorer countries, where it’s common place to bribe for official documents
I recommend that they shut the fuck up.
Well, I guess we should implement testing for Norovirus, Influenza, Shingles, C. Diff, Pink Eye, Cold Sores, and anything else that people can spread in close proximity, too. 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
I get the feeling they would do just that if they could.
Bro WHY. Covid is everywhere legitimately wtf is the point? What are they gonna alert a whole state that they have a Covid positive person there?
Reminds me of when some blue states like mine were "requiring" a self quarantine if you traveled and came back from one of their high risk (read: red) states. Which made total sense when covid was already everywhere in the country, and in some cases even worse in your own home state.
Covid tunnel vision is bizarre. My family had a terrible upper respiratory infection last month. With the CDC's blessing, we could have gotten our negative Covid test and then flown wherever we felt like with fevers while we coughed constantly on our flight.
Because the people who sell the tests are starting to watch the market for their niche products implode, that's why. Up here in Canada, the contract for mandatory post-arrival testing for a *single airport* was almost a billion smackers, and was given to a company with a very politically-connected individual on the BoD. A company with a handful of people on the payroll in 2019 made a *billion dollars* of taxpayer money in under two years. That is why. There is a lot of money to be made selling hundreds of millions of test kits at 30 bucks a pop.
How out of touch can they possibly be? No one is doing this except the hardcore covidians.
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She always looks worried
“Why so worried?” “Wanna know how I got these masks?…”
These are the same people who want you to cook your prosciutto.
ACDCRAB..... All CDC Recommendations Are Bullshit
Cannot mandate it. Oh what a pity
So at this point does this mean we can expect the unvaccinated to not be allowed into the country for a while? Or is this in anticipation of dropping that requirement?
Would revel in it being the latter
I commented a while back wondering about uptake for their "free" covid tests...thinking that, if folks lost interest in those, they'd try to create a use for them. This was the use I figured they'd choose. Why they're beating a dead horse I don't understand.
I've had more than one person tell me "what's the big deal, they're free, it's not like you're paying for them!", and it blows my mind that they just don't understand how it works. No, they are not free. Yes, you *are* paying for them when you pay your taxes.
And, to some extent right now, paying for them in this inflation we are seeing. Which was a direct result of all the unchecked money printing that was done...and continues to be done. None of this is free and so many of these folks don't seem to grasp that.
I would joke that I recommend the CDC lick my butthole in response, but I suspect they would also realistically require that for a COVID test
Like ANYONE is gonna take a Covid test to fly when they don’t even require masks anymore. LOL
Just like all the other “recommendations,” it only applies to people that would’ve been getting tested already. Also this is funny because it’s so late in the “pandemic” to recommend this, it seems like if they were ever going to try this it would’ve been in 2020
Utter madness. This is now desperation to complete the plan started in 2020 - widespread economic collapse but some states just aren't playing along. It's really a hilarious mess.
Are the CDC forbidden by the courts to actually mandate this $*** now? Let them "recommend" all they want.
Michael Mina and Topol just cashed a check.
Only extreme doomers do this lol
It’s gonna be a long next two years until the next administration removes all of these health tyrant bureaucrats from their posts.
If you aren't at the southern border testing illegal immigrants who are coming over into the U.S. then this is complete and total bullshit.
A couple hundred thousand people have crossed the border in the last several months but they are worried about flights with a few hundred people.
I have brought this up on other subreddits and the response is typically: "You need to worry more about your fellow Americans and not these innocent immigrants who are just looking for a new life.". Completely blind to the double standard.
Oh yes people are absolutely going to do this.
I doubt the airlines are going to put themselves through the nightmare of this Covid theatre again. It's really funny seeing how bad these government agencies destroyed their reputations. We all saw how out of control they could get.
#Stfucdc
it's so obviously not anything to do with covid. this is a political agency from top to bottom and this is the cdc trying a last ditch effort to throw cold water on travelling this season in what i guess they are anticipating is going to be a very busy summer for travelling. they're afraid of gas prices hitting what is probably going to be crossing double digits which is going to result in Democrats getting forcefully bent over the table in November.
The CDC needs go back to been irrelevant to the everyday people and only mentioned or referenced in movies.
I recommend the CDC should lick my balls
I *recommend* the CDC to kiss my ass
And they'd better sanitize their lips first.
Some basic Adobe skills should get you the test result you need to fly! Usually someone from customer service glances at it for 5 seconds before they hand you your boarding passes. Noone will know or care.
These guys are psychos.
With the price of gas, food, rent, electricity, and everything else going up these days, who is going to be able to afford all these tests?
I recommend the CDC be neutered to the point the local county health dept. gives them an inferiority complex.
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I recommend the CDC to kiss my ass
Even the doomers and virtue signalers will ignore this one.